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Title: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: nateandmiles on December 31, 2020, 12:20:30 PM
Lets discuss this heat far as best from the West. Who ripped it between the 3? Beat is classic no doubt courtesy of Daz Dillinger
Winner  here is Xzibit ..that nikka killt it. He hardest from the West!
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: nateandmiles on December 31, 2020, 12:21:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01oaGfYG-kY

Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: HighEyeCue on December 31, 2020, 12:43:15 PM
classic track, all 3 went in...Kurupts verse is actually from an unreleased Death Row Dogg Pound track "I Roc Mics"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQXpYHKAvxw
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 04, 2021, 01:40:21 PM
Yeah this is a classic.. and this was when Xzibit had that underground buzz during that long run-up to him dropping the Restless album.  He was a big part of the West resurgence.  Good times
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Rudki on January 07, 2021, 05:20:13 AM
Kiler song

''this is the art of manslaughter...''
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 12, 2021, 11:12:15 AM
So who killed it the most... I say wasn’t nobody out West really fuccin wit X in that 2nd West Resurgence era
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: nateandmiles on January 12, 2021, 12:27:51 PM
So who killed it the most... I say wasn’t nobody out West really fuccin wit X in that 2nd West Resurgence era
Yes X killt it .  The direct descendant of the gatlin gun ....
Matter of fact to segue into posse cats, Kurupt always gets chewed. Ref "I got my mind made up". Method Man killt it.
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: nateandmiles on January 12, 2021, 12:28:40 PM
Initiated. Fatal Hussein killt it. Kurupt never shone on a posse cat. Thats not his lane.
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: HighEyeCue on January 12, 2021, 01:57:53 PM
Initiated. Fatal Hussein killt it. Kurupt never shone on a posse cat. Thats not his lane.
Yes X killt it .  The direct descendant of the gatlin gun ....
Matter of fact to segue into posse cats, Kurupt always gets chewed. Ref "I got my mind made up". Method Man killt it.

you're joking right?
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Suga Foot on January 18, 2021, 07:53:14 PM
Kiler song

''this is the art of manslaughter...''

That was the first line that came to mind for me so Crooked I wins! lol
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: HighEyeCue on January 19, 2021, 04:15:49 AM
That was the first line that came to mind for me so Crooked I wins! lol

"when I'm rockin I'm more shocking than dropping a boom box in bath water"...damn
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Okka on January 19, 2021, 12:28:07 PM
So who killed it the most... I say wasn’t nobody out West really fuccin wit X in that 2nd West Resurgence era

All have great verses, but I like Crooked I's the most.
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on February 03, 2021, 12:04:19 AM
crook was a monster from 98-02

he still is but he started gettin a lil too technical wit his raps after leavin death row
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 15, 2021, 06:16:03 PM
crook was a monster from 98-02

he still is but he started gettin a lil too technical wit his raps after leavin death row

Not that I like Crook as much as Royce, but still it's like Slaughterhouse was a "throw all the best lyricists who can't figure out how to put together on an album so they can also fail to put together a solid group album"

...I mean thank God that Em had Royce on that Bad Meetz Evil EP.  That got him a gold record and a solid album.  Because it always pisses me off that a cat that talented never could see an album all the way through and bang out a classic.

I mean Royce and Crook in the same category as Canibus.  Yet, Canibus has two solid albums in his catalogue.  Canibus and BC2000 are both very quality, well put together albums.  One with Wyclef and one without Wyclef.  So... if Canibus could do it in that era why not Royce and Crooked?

Same with Rass Kass.  I mean these cats are all same category.  Yet Rass Kass managed to put together one classic--Soul On Ice--and Rassasination is a solid album as well.  So again.. why the fucc couldn't Royce do it?  I mean they are all cut from the same cloth.

Just disapointing... cause that bootleg shit of Royce from 99-2001 material if just compiled right was a classic to boot
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on February 15, 2021, 10:50:49 PM
Not that I like Crook as much as Royce, but still it's like Slaughterhouse was a "throw all the best lyricists who can't figure out how to put together on an album so they can also fail to put together a solid group album"

...I mean thank God that Em had Royce on that Bad Meetz Evil EP.  That got him a gold record and a solid album.  Because it always pisses me off that a cat that talented never could see an album all the way through and bang out a classic.

I mean Royce and Crook in the same category as Canibus.  Yet, Canibus has two solid albums in his catalogue.  Canibus and BC2000 are both very quality, well put together albums.  One with Wyclef and one without Wyclef.  So... if Canibus could do it in that era why not Royce and Crooked?

Same with Rass Kass.  I mean these cats are all same category.  Yet Rass Kass managed to put together one classic--Soul On Ice--and Rassasination is a solid album as well.  So again.. why the fucc couldn't Royce do it?  I mean they are all cut from the same cloth.

Just disapointing... cause that bootleg shit of Royce from 99-2001 material if just compiled right was a classic to boot


royce has a really dope album .... check out his album “prhyme” .. entirely produced by dj premier


same with crook .. his album “statik kxng” was some great stuff
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 16, 2021, 11:49:08 AM

royce has a really dope album .... check out his album “prhyme” .. entirely produced by dj premier


same with crook .. his album “statik kxng” was some great stuff

Would you put "prhyme" or "statik Kxng" up there with any of the albums I mentioned...

-The 99-2001 Bootleg Royce disc (you sent me actually ;D)
-Rass Kass - Soul On Ice
-Bad Meetz Evil EP
-Canibus - Can-I-Bus or BC2000
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on February 17, 2021, 12:25:39 AM
^its on par or better than everything u listed outside of soul on ice, which was a classic
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 17, 2021, 10:01:20 PM
^its on par or better than everything u listed outside of soul on ice, which was a classic

maybe you right, but it's just hard for me to get into anything that came out after Nas dropped Hip-Hop is Dead in 07
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on February 18, 2021, 12:54:01 AM
maybe you right, but it's just hard for me to get into anything that came out after Nas dropped Hip-Hop is Dead in 07


sounds mental

you’ve built an imaginary barricade that only exists in your mind with an exact date on rap projects

fascinating homie
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 18, 2021, 03:05:30 AM

sounds mental

you’ve built an imaginary barricade that only exists in your mind with an exact date on rap projects

fascinating homie

Yo.. check the name on the sig I'm Infinite Trapped in 96 homie!!
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: HighEyeCue on February 21, 2021, 12:59:47 AM
Yo.. check the name on the sig I'm Infinite Trapped in 96 homie!!

I agree that the 90's era was the best in terms of quality music

many artists are still releasing heat though you just have to look harder for it
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 21, 2021, 03:04:21 AM
I agree that the 90's era was the best in terms of quality music

many artists are still releasing heat though you just have to look harder for it

I don't think ya'll understand what I'm saying--I am literally stuck in a time warp... My true love moved away and left me and Pac got murdered in the same week and my heart broke, and I ain't ever been the same since, I just got stuck there and never moved on... I am not of this rhyme...

...and I am not finna waste my time forcing trash music from a trash era down... when there is still so much to discover and uncover from the golden eras.  You know it wasn't until just last week that I really bumped Biz Markie?  Sure I knew him, and had seen him in numerous videos, interviews, documentaries, bits and pieces, etc... but I mean actually sit and give a serious listen through his music with all my focus and attention I had never done that until just last week..

They say ODB is the ol dirty bastard but he ain't a bastard (I'm a bastard my bio father was an anonymous sperm donor artificial insemination I'm more bastard than he is)... ODB has a father--- the father to his style is BIZ MARKIE!!   Go check out some Biz Markie in depth and then go back and watch ODB again through the lens of Biz.. even U-God said it
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: HighEyeCue on February 25, 2021, 06:25:18 AM
I don't think ya'll understand what I'm saying--I am literally stuck in a time warp... My true love moved away and left me and Pac got murdered in the same week and my heart broke, and I ain't ever been the same since, I just got stuck there and never moved on... I am not of this rhyme...

...and I am not finna waste my time forcing trash music from a trash era down... when there is still so much to discover and uncover from the golden eras.  You know it wasn't until just last week that I really bumped Biz Markie?  Sure I knew him, and had seen him in numerous videos, interviews, documentaries, bits and pieces, etc... but I mean actually sit and give a serious listen through his music with all my focus and attention I had never done that until just last week..

They say ODB is the ol dirty bastard but he ain't a bastard (I'm a bastard my bio father was an anonymous sperm donor artificial insemination I'm more bastard than he is)... ODB has a father--- the father to his style is BIZ MARKIE!!   Go check out some Biz Markie in depth and then go back and watch ODB again through the lens of Biz.. even U-God said it

I never was really a fan of the Bay Area music of the 90's, I went back in recent years and listened to 40, Short, Spice 1, Luniz and learned to appreciate them as well
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 25, 2021, 10:24:25 AM
I never was really a fan of the Bay Area music of the 90's, I went back in recent years and listened to 40, Short, Spice 1, Luniz and learned to appreciate them as well

Bay Area shit is like No Limit to me... sub par and 3rd rate.  In fact it’s about like KC rap and Kansas City and the Bay always had a link I even had a girlfriend that was E-40’s cousin some years back
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Okka on February 25, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
Bay Area shit is like No Limit to me... sub par and 3rd rate.  In fact it’s about like KC rap and Kansas City and the Bay always had a link I even had a girlfriend that was E-40’s cousin some years back

Sub par and 3rd rate? You need to clean your fuckin' ears. I don't think you understand how stupid this shit makes you look.
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on February 26, 2021, 06:59:46 AM
Sub par and 3rd rate? You need to clean your fuckin' ears. I don't think you understand how stupid this shit makes you look.


it’s infinite .... one far hell check mac dre the way he did biz markie. maybe in 2033.
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: HighEyeCue on February 27, 2021, 08:28:07 AM
Bay Area shit is like No Limit to me... sub par and 3rd rate.  In fact it’s about like KC rap and Kansas City and the Bay always had a link I even had a girlfriend that was E-40’s cousin some years back

not a fan of No Limit so Im not really going to comment on them

as far as the Bay they basically got no airplay here in NYC even on mix shows...Luniz "I Got 5 On It" being the exception. My only exposure came through The Box and BET Rap City. I did get the Luniz single and Rappin 4-Tays "Ain't No Playa" at the local mom and pop near my house. I gave the Bay a chance sometime around the late 2000s and discovered I really dug their style. I still prefer LA rap but expanded my horizons

anyway maybe the Bay is not your cup of tea but to call them 3rd rate is pretty much an insult when they have as many legends as any region
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Proc pka KP on February 27, 2021, 10:17:56 AM
Infinite shitted on this thread. Pimp of the year
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 28, 2021, 09:08:26 PM
not a fan of No Limit so Im not really going to comment on them

as far as the Bay they basically got no airplay here in NYC even on mix shows...Luniz "I Got 5 On It" being the exception. My only exposure came through The Box and BET Rap City. I did get the Luniz single and Rappin 4-Tays "Ain't No Playa" at the local mom and pop near my house. I gave the Bay a chance sometime around the late 2000s and discovered I really dug their style. I still prefer LA rap but expanded my horizons

anyway maybe the Bay is not your cup of tea but to call them 3rd rate is pretty much an insult when they have as many legends as any region

have as many legends as any region?  Please stack up their legends to legends from L.A. or N.Y., there is no comparison... or take just Queensbridge alone, or Atlanta, if you want to be more fair...

I was a fan of Rappin 4 Tay "I'll Be There" and "PLayer's Club" in the day, Too Short "Gettin It"... some of my all time favorite songs.  But that's not saying much.  I still say they are 3rd rate just like I say No Limit is 3rd rate.   I'm not hating on them.  No Limit, I was a big fan of the I'm Bout It project both the movie and album.  I also bumped a lot of there other shit is just didn't age well.

I do put them behind East Coast, West Coast, Atlanta, Detroit.  But in their defense I do put them ahead of anything Kansas City or South hip-hop (excluding Atlanta) like Cash Money type shit
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on February 28, 2021, 10:59:13 PM
have as many legends as any region?  Please stack up their legends to legends from L.A. or N.Y., there is no comparison... or take just Queensbridge alone, or Atlanta, if you want to be more fair...

I was a fan of Rappin 4 Tay "I'll Be There" and "PLayer's Club" in the day, Too Short "Gettin It"... some of my all time favorite songs.  But that's not saying much.  I still say they are 3rd rate just like I say No Limit is 3rd rate.   I'm not hating on them.  No Limit, I was a big fan of the I'm Bout It project both the movie and album.  I also bumped a lot of there other shit is just didn't age well.

I do put them behind East Coast, West Coast, Atlanta, Detroit.  But in their defense I do put them ahead of anything Kansas City or South hip-hop (excluding Atlanta) like Cash Money type shit


norcal is the second best region behind socal

too short
e-40
digital underground
spice 1
luniz
c-bo
nickatina
jacka
mac dre
brotha lynch
del
richie rich
paris
mac mall
dubee
celly cel
dru down
3xkrazy

off top

there’s nothing 3rd rate bout these artists
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 01, 2021, 12:43:24 AM

norcal is the second best region behind socal

too short
e-40
digital underground
spice 1
luniz
c-bo
nickatina
jacka
mac dre
brotha lynch
del
richie rich
paris
mac mall
dubee
celly cel
dru down
3xkrazy

off top

there’s nothing 3rd rate bout these artists

Okay, I will take just one single borough of New York and stack it up against your list

Nas > Too Short
Slick Rick > E-40
Mob Deep > Digital Underground
50 Cent > Spice 1
Lost Boyz > Luniz
Noreago > C-Bo
LL Cool J > Nickatina

^^The above is undebatable^^

Pharoah Monch > Jacka
Lloyd Banks > Mac Dre
Canibus > Brotha Lynch

^^Only these you can debate ^^

Now how does that stack up?

Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on March 01, 2021, 12:58:34 AM
Okay, I will take just one single borough of New York and stack it up against your list

Nas > Too Short
Slick Rick > E-40
Mob Deep > Digital Underground
50 Cent > Spice 1
Lost Boyz > Luniz
Noreago > C-Bo
LL Cool J > Nickatina

^^The above is undebatable^^

Pharoah Monch > Jacka
Lloyd Banks > Mac Dre
Canibus > Brotha Lynch

^^Only these you can debate ^^

Now how does that stack up?

as the flavorless cocksuckers in new york say - fuck outa heaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 01, 2021, 02:45:43 AM
as the flavorless cocksuckers in new york say - fuck outa heaaaaaaa

so you takin Spice 1 over 50?  Too Short over Naz?  Digital Underground over Mob Deep? ...fuck outa heaaaaa
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on March 01, 2021, 07:32:22 AM
so you takin Spice 1 over 50?  Too Short over Naz?  Digital Underground over Mob Deep? ...fuck outa heaaaaa


spice 1 for sure over 50

nas is a top 5 emcee so no

digital underground and mob deep both legendary, that one id say is a matter of preference. shock g is one of the most brilliant and underrated producers in hip-hop history.
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 01, 2021, 12:01:32 PM

spice 1 for sure over 50

nas is a top 5 emcee so no

digital underground and mob deep both legendary, that one id say is a matter of preference. shock g is one of the most brilliant and underrated producers in hip-hop history.

And Havoc as a producer?
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: Sccit on March 01, 2021, 04:05:05 PM
And Havoc as a producer?

is great
Title: Re: Kurupt Ft. Crooked I and Xzibit - Step Up
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 03, 2021, 01:22:46 PM
Okay, I will take just one single borough of New York and stack it up against your list

Nas > Too Short
Slick Rick > E-40
Mob Deep > Digital Underground
50 Cent > Spice 1
Lost Boyz > Luniz
Noreago > C-Bo
LL Cool J > Nickatina

^^The above is undebatable^^

Pharoah Monch > Jacka
Lloyd Banks > Mac Dre
Canibus > Brotha Lynch

^^Only these you can debate ^^

Now how does that stack up?

only sure thing is Nas, Mobb Deep and LL...other artists are pretty much equal IMO and I would give E-40 the edge over Slick Rick because of his longevity and consistency