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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: ⠀ on March 21, 2021, 03:42:39 PM
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Dude, I was totally bumping this super dope Compton album by Dre and like OMG dude its a classic.
How could I not see it before, bro? Did you hear the mixing bro? Its super crisp and the beats are layered like a Big Mac. So refreshing to hear Dre switch up things and innovate, the rap game will catch up in 20 years or so with his experimental flows and subject matter.
All of the features bought their A game and Dre whipped it up to a whole nother level so it leaves Chronic and 2001 in the dust, its just that good bro. Get on my level bro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OTbaAVQW8M
I taught that dude how to C Walk bro. C stands for Compton dude so I'm Compton Walking, don't let me hear you talk smack on this album or it'll be Compton Stomping.
Ginsberg test ya chin like a Habsburg #bars
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no it's not.
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no it's not.
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Yeah I felt all along it was a classic up to Dre’s gold standard.. I bumped it for about 6 months straight
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:snoopfacepalm:
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:snoopfacepalm:
Context: Snoops actually wiping the sweat from his brow after hearing how out of this world Compton was. Even the Big Dogg pays homage to the genius of Andre that was exemplified by this album as the peak of his creativity.
Replay value is off the charts. Literally.
Don't think he'll ever be able to top this as its so far ahead of its time the discs haven't even been pressed yet.
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I disagree. Compton is nowhere near the level of a Chronic or 2001 - not only numerically in terms of success, but conceptually or production-wise. Standalone leftovers that didn't even make it on the album - like Music To Driveby - were better than the entire release. Compton reminds me of the Aftermath compilation that flopped right before he realized he need to get back to what he knows and made 2001. Hopefully we'll see the same thing happen again.
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I disagree. Compton is nowhere near the level of a Chronic or 2001 - not only numerically in terms of success, but conceptually or production-wise. Standalone leftovers that didn't even make it on the album - like Music To Driveby - were better than the entire release. Compton reminds me of the Aftermath compilation that flopped right before he realized he need to get back to what he knows and made 2001. Hopefully we'll see the same thing happen again.
You're sounding like an unappreciative hater there dudebroski. Still, mo Compton fo me.
Comparing it Aftermath Presents... is sacrilegious. Dre disowned that album with "How nigga my last album was The Chronic" but his extensive marketing and social mentions show how proud he is of Compton as his magnum opus and its deserves the title of finest album he's ever created.
People were just too basic to get how dope it is on first listen, its like fine wine and you need the palette to appreciate it. Sheer genius mixing and innovative flows, lyrics and all that. 5 mics. Instant classic. 2 dubs up.
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no. just no.
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no. just no.
Just listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBiZbAxuPU4
Sheer genius. Totally fresh and unique production style, amazing flow and a total lack of gimmicks and trend riding. This makes Still DRE sound like a demo track from a C list artist. Compare that to this weak old stuff that was rightfully left of the album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dqit-u1M4w
Nobody wants to hear that wack ish where Dre trots out the same old flow with those rhymes. You can see why it wasn't good enough for Compton, just not on that level.
Matter of fact Dre should take the mic of LLs arm and get 6 mics for this album as its that good. Real heads know.
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compton is classic once u contextualize it with music coming out from that specific era
no promo didn’t help its cause in regards to notoriety, but sonically it’s indeed a production masterpiece
cats was just mad it wasnt la casual style breath like 16 wow
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You're sounding like an unappreciative hater there dudebroski. Still, mo Compton fo me.
Comparing it Aftermath Presents... is sacrilegious. Dre disowned that album with "How nigga my last album was The Chronic" but his extensive marketing and social mentions show how proud he is of Compton as his magnum opus and its deserves the title of finest album he's ever created.
People were just too basic to get how dope it is on first listen, its like fine wine and you need the palette to appreciate it. Sheer genius mixing and innovative flows, lyrics and all that. 5 mics. Instant classic. 2 dubs up.
Irrespective of what I might or might not sound like to you, there's nothing I "hate" about Dr. Dre. And as a fan and as a consumer, I along with anyone else are perfectly free to critique a product being sold. That kind of has an impact on how it does from a sales perspective. If there's a context for appreciation, it's with the artist who reaps massive amounts of money as result of consumption... in this case, we've all made him a billionaire. Also, I bought the Compton album. I'm looking at it from a technical point of view: conceptually, creatively, production, sonics, ideas, etc. Feel free to disagree - in fact I welcome constructive discourse around it. But I think the "hater" term is really overused and combative. It's not really an argument at all and doesn't serve a purpose here.
P.S. I'm not worried about being sacrilegious haha. Good conversations usually involve some of that. 8)
P.S.S. I will say that sonically, it is quite impressive. But the material itself is really underwhelming for me.
P.S.S. It's not like a good bottle of red requires some sort of effort to appreciate. I'm no sommelier, but I don't think that's requisite for determining how good wine is. Just like I don't need a PhD in electrical engineering to be an audiophile - but I can still have some basic conception about circuit analysis and how it contributes to what I'm hearing.
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I disagree. Compton is nowhere near the level of a Chronic or 2001 - not only numerically in terms of success, but conceptually or production-wise. Standalone leftovers that didn't even make it on the album - like Music To Driveby - were better than the entire release. Compton reminds me of the Aftermath compilation that flopped right before he realized he need to get back to what he knows and made 2001. Hopefully we'll see the same thing happen again.
Agree with this. I've tried to give Compton a chance and even revisited it several years later and it absolutely falls flat. It felt forced with the features, content, and ghostwriters to the point that it didn't make sense; like it was a Kendrick album. Hopefully, he narrows down who he works with on his new album (if there is one) and sticks to one or two ghostwriters.
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KUSH IS A FUCKING CLASSIC - PLAY THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW AND TELL IT DONT BUMP?
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But I think the "hater" term is really overused and combative. It's not really an argument at all and doesn't serve a purpose here.
Agree with this. I've tried to give Compton a chance and even revisited it several years later and it absolutely falls flat. It felt forced with the features, content, and ghostwriters to the point that it didn't make sense; like it was a Kendrick album. Hopefully, he narrows down who he works with on his new album (if there is one) and sticks to one or two ghostwriters.
I'm not hating, I'm riding on my enemies. Tom and Jerry style, its on sight.
If you don't like Compton and hail it as the greatest album Dre has ever created then we're going to have a problem. Matter of fact to know Compton a good dubcc member should have Compton in his blood stream. Break up a lil bit of that CD and snort it up, then you'll see what Compton is all about because Dre is the Ric Flair of the rap game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGbZN4fV4GU
WOOOOOOOOO!!!! Every word Ric said there can be applied to Dre and then some and Compton shows the Rolex wearing, diamond ring wearing, wife beating, whoo! wheelin dealin’, headphone selling, jet flying son of a gun whose having a hard time holding these classics in the vault.
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KUSH IS A FUCKING CLASSIC - PLAY THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW AND TELL IT DONT BUMP?
Kush is good but Compton is for the children! For real, the wisdom contained within that CD could be a new chapter of the gospel as it proves Dre is a prophet. Lyrics should be etched on stone tablets with a little wind up music player for future generations to savor the high point of our culture. You mere mortals need to catch up, you'll understand how good it is in about 20 years. Ketchup.
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I disagree. Compton is nowhere near the level of a Chronic or 2001 - not only numerically in terms of success, but conceptually or production-wise. Standalone leftovers that didn't even make it on the album - like Music To Driveby - were better than the entire release. Compton reminds me of the Aftermath compilation that flopped right before he realized he need to get back to what he knows and made 2001. Hopefully we'll see the same thing happen again.
I still love the Aftermath Presents album and bump it to this day. I believe it was so far ahead of it's time nobody ever quite caught up to it.
Shit.. one of the illest dreams I ever had was when I fell asleep one night with "Shittin On The World" playing on repeat... I ended up in some ill underworld carrying an 80's style boombox like Radio Raheem and selling old school tapes out the trunk of my car, into freaking hunnies at some underground African club, and an apartment complex that looked like Snoop's apartment in the Baby Boy movie... and the whole time that track was the one bumpin again and again and again for the 8 hours I was asleep. Have you ever been so high you felt you were actually inside of the song? Imagine that feeling but while lucid dreaming.
... and that's just one song. "East/West Killaz" is the most timely hip-hop track of all time and Nas' greatest verse of all time. RBX banger "Blunt Time" I put up against any track to this day... "Been There Done That" was epic... and "St8 Gone" with King Tee was a certified banger.. That David Bowie remake "Fame" is a banger and the sleeper that flies behind the radar is the "Nationowl" joint is one of the smoothest tracks you will ever here and the lyrics are fire and introspective.
I could write a whole fuckin book about this album... I even have written a lot about it... it was my favorite era in hiphop history and deepest year of my life 1996... I would say best year of my life because it was.. until 2pac got shot (so I will just say it was my best summer, and the magazine in my sig came out that summer I had it on top of my stereo next to my window all summer) and I ain't ever moved on since I been stuck in a time warp since Sept 13th.. a part of me died when Pac died
...but of course all this is just subjective and in my own humble opinion cause it's personal to me. COMPTON is actually a great album OBJECTIVELY. I'm not talking about my opinion or cause of the time period or anything like that... it is a great album critically
INFINITE TRAPPED IN 1996 HAS SPOKEN..
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No where near classic IMO. It has none of the redeeming qualities that a classic album should possess; replay value, an album that you can listen from start to finish with little to no skippers, tracks that you immediately know the melodies off. None of the indicators are there for me for this one. This album's status of a solid classic 'great' seems more of a forced marketing persuasion that it should be, than it actually is.
It's been years since I've listened to this album and the only track I remember is the Dre and DJ Premier one near the end of the album.
It's an average album, not trash, but in the same category as 'Aftermath Presents' to where it gets no replay spins
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I still love the Aftermath Presents album and bump it to this day. I believe it was so far ahead of it's time nobody ever quite caught up to it.
Shit.. one of the illest dreams I ever had was when I fell asleep one night with "Shittin On The World" playing on repeat... I ended up in some ill underworld carrying an 80's style boombox like Radio Raheem and selling old school tapes out the trunk of my car, into freaking hunnies at some underground African club, and an apartment complex that looked like Snoop's apartment in the Baby Boy movie... and the whole time that track was the one bumpin again and again and again for the 8 hours I was asleep. Have you ever been so high you felt you were actually inside of the song? Imagine that feeling but while lucid dreaming.
... and that's just one song. "East/West Killaz" is the most timely hip-hop track of all time and Nas' greatest verse of all time. RBX banger "Blunt Time" I put up against any track to this day... "Been There Done That" was epic... and "St8 Gone" with King Tee was a certified banger.. That David Bowie remake "Fame" is a banger and the sleeper that flies behind the radar is the "Nationowl" joint is one of the smoothest tracks you will ever here and the lyrics are fire and introspective.
I could write a whole fuckin book about this album... I even have written a lot about it... it was my favorite era in hiphop history and deepest year of my life 1996... I would say best year of my life because it was.. until 2pac got shot (so I will just say it was my best summer, and the magazine in my sig came out that summer I had it on top of my stereo next to my window all summer) and I ain't ever moved on since I been stuck in a time warp since Sept 13th.. a part of me died when Pac died
...but of course all this is just subjective and in my own humble opinion cause it's personal to me. COMPTON is actually a great album OBJECTIVELY. I'm not talking about my opinion or cause of the time period or anything like that... it is a great album critically
INFINITE TRAPPED IN 1996 HAS SPOKEN..
Hahaha, I'm glad you've experienced cool dreams and that the album has inspired you to write a book.
Art doesn't leave much room for objectivity. The point of most art is how it's interpreted by the observer. With music however, there are some aspects that can in fact be isolated and evaluated objectively like sound quality / soinics. But anything in the realm of liking or disliking what you're hearing falls into the opinion box, no matter how strong... which is fine because that what art is about. :)
Str8 Gone with King T is a great song. I'd say the best song on the compilation. Can't really lose with T on a song. But overall I thought it was a terrible album.
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the aftermath compilation is severely underrated .. not classic because there is a bit of filler, but def got its share of classic joints.
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the aftermath compilation is severely underrated .. not classic because there is a bit of filler, but def got its share of classic joints.
Even Dres "worst" songs are way better than any other artist could hope to achieve on his best day. After all he's revolutionized the game countless times and is a true originator who is still current and can drop whenever he wishes, the whole world will sit up and listen.
Aftermath presents needs a level of intelligence to be able to contextualize it with music coming out from that specific era as it represented a counter current and was a refreshing breath of fresh air in the midst of that played out E/W beef.
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Even Dres "worst" songs are way better than any other artist could hope to achieve on his best day. After all he's revolutionized the game countless times and is a true originator who is still current and can drop whenever he wishes, the whole world will sit up and listen.
Aftermath presents needs a level of intelligence to be able to contextualize it with music coming out from that specific era as it represented a counter current and was a refreshing breath of fresh air in the midst of that played out E/W beef.
damn u finally catchin on, i’m proud of u
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damn u finally catchin on, i’m proud of u
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This is my favorite thread in a minute. Dre-level excellence trolling
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I don't consider Compton an album just like the Aftermath Presents, which is a compilation and shouldn't be judged as such. Compton is a soundtrack inspired by Straight Outta Compton. Compton has aged well to me. Now you have me listening to it right now. It's not a classic by any means, but surely not a flop. The 2010s should also not be judged by sales or all that jazz. If the Chronic and 2001 never sold shit, we would all say the same thing, which is they are masterpieces. I don't care about album sales and all that. It's about the music and escapism for me. What hurts Dr. Dre is his perfectionism. He should have 5 or 6 albums (Chronic, Heltah Skeltah, Chronic 2, 2001, Detox, Planets).
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This is my favorite thread in a minute. Dre-level excellence trolling
Look out for Detox!
In the mean time remember to buy some headphones, laptops, trainers, albums that may or may not include Compton and whatever else the good Doctor recommends:
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The 2010s should also not be judged by sales or all that jazz. If the Chronic and 2001 never sold shit, we would all say the same thing, which is they are masterpieces. I don't care about album sales and all that. It's about the music and escapism for me. What hurts Dr. Dre is his perfectionism. He should have 5 or 6 albums (Chronic, Heltah Skeltah, Chronic 2, 2001, Detox, Planets).
2001 and The Chronic were Dre doing fast food for the masses, it was designed to sell well. Compton is for the intelligentsia, those that walk a higher path with the level of taste required to decode the multilayered symphony Andre Young gifted to the world as his true Magnum Opus. Matter of fact, give it 7 mics based off that alone. Where did we get the extra mic on top of the one from LLs arm?
Anyone: Tyson, Jordan, Jackson. Actually, lets give all them mics to Dre for this classic to end all classics:
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I heard that if you play Compton exclusively to pregnant women during the third trimester the child is born uttering the iconic phrase "Hayulll Yeaaahhh!" whilst recklessly eyeballing the Doctor, daring him to smack them. Apparently its a way of establishing dominance in the medical field, its a Doctor thing, you wouldn't understand.
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"Compton is such a good album, that even all of the women that Dr Dre has beaten up over the years still bump it"
(https://i.ibb.co/BzrLjMZ/chris.png) (https://ibb.co/QbC9nwN)
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We all know Dre is a perfectionist who takes ever endeavor seriously so we should thank his dedication for plying his trade outside his area of immediate expertise in his quest for aural excellence. One misstep and the world may never have basked in the glory of Compton in the year 0 B.C.
That's Behold Compton therefore its now 6BC. Its a new day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLoGYJSNQGY
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Listening to the song and you get some flashes of brilliance that show the evolution of Compton, I mean:
I woke up this morning thinking 'bout the old me
When I was feeling like, Miller Lite and OE
The way he rhymed "old me" and "OE" - That shit was genius mayne, GENIUS. Can you think on that level, mayne? I mean, can you? WHOOOO! I thought he'd never top the heights set by this solid gold bar from back when:
I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut
But it just proves you can never count Dre out as he just keeps getting better and better.
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Compton is the most boring, uninspired rap album I've ever heard. It just sounds like Dr. Dre imitating Soundcloud, mumble rappers.
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This is not a classic, I even forgot this album came out.
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You should go back to it and listen again, maybe you'll get it this time round as Dre wasn't dumbing himself down for the mainstream on this one. Conceptually its miles ahead of anything he's ever done. I mean look at this ground breaking lyric video he did just to make sure people get the message:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9CHWOsGrx0
Talk about starting the album off on a high point and it just gets better and better from there on out. The fact that he's evolved to the point where Dre can now consider Pacs point of view and see through that lens too shows you the kind of humility crossed with excellence we've come to expect from Dre post 2001.
You better recognize, foo!
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I know this is a troll thread, but It's all on me and Diary are classics in my book, nobody could change my mind about that.
Those are the only tracks in which Dre doesn't try to be/sound like something/someone that he isn't.
When it comes to the rest..I can take em or leave em.
I overplayed Just Another Day and hearing Paak scream that much on the Deep Water outro made my dislike the song after a point.
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I don't like the Compton album. Such a disappointment! I don't know anyone who even plays anything from that. I remember when I first heard it, i didn't feel it at all. I thought maybe I'm just too old, so let me play it for teenagers and see if they like it. None of them liked it. Every one of my friends I played it for who like rap, nobody liked it. I bet if you asked the average hip hop fan about it, that most would not be able to answer the questions that a classic album would be able to get. Like nobody quotes any of the lyrics off this album, I bet most can't name more than 5 song titles off this album, I've never heard anyone bump this in their ride or at functions. I even liked some of the Detox tracks more than anything on this album. Of course, the sonics and engineering are excellent, I'm not gonna argue that, but who cares about that when the songwriting/beats have no replay value. For me, Dr. Dre lost his ear for picking dope beats. The last thing I liked from him is the Topless song. Even stuff he has production credits for on the Eminems recent album is nothing special. Thats my opinion.
If you like it, thats cool, I'm happy for you. I guess we just have different tastes. Maybe its a classic in some peoples personal opinion, but not in the real world it isn't.
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I don't like the Compton album. Such a disappointment! I don't know anyone who even plays anything from that. I remember when I first heard it, i didn't feel it at all. I thought maybe I'm just too old, so let me play it for teenagers and see if they like it. None of them liked it. Every one of my friends I played it for who like rap, nobody liked it. I bet if you asked the average hip hop fan about it, that most would not be able to answer the questions that a classic album would be able to get. Like nobody quotes any of the lyrics off this album, I bet most can't name more than 5 song titles off this album, I've never heard anyone bump this in their ride or at functions. I even liked some of the Detox tracks more than anything on this album. Of course, the sonics and engineering are excellent, I'm not gonna argue that, but who cares about that when the songwriting/beats have no replay value. For me, Dr. Dre lost his ear for picking dope beats. The last thing I liked from him is the Topless song. Even stuff he has production credits for on the Eminems recent album is nothing special. Thats my opinion.
If you like it, thats cool, I'm happy for you. I guess we just have different tastes. Maybe its a classic in some peoples personal opinion, but not in the real world it isn't.
what could have been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8tAeC3TBVE
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Even Dres "worst" songs are way better than any other artist could hope to achieve on his best day. After all he's revolutionized the game countless times and is a true originator who is still current and can drop whenever he wishes, the whole world will sit up and listen.
Aftermath presents needs a level of intelligence to be able to contextualize it with music coming out from that specific era as it represented a counter current and was a refreshing breath of fresh air in the midst of that played out E/W beef.
“The music I was doing at that time – it wasn’t completely up to par; it was just something that we were working on and experimenting with…. I think the album that we did at that time – The Aftermath record, the first record – it went platinum or what have you but it wasn’t my best foot forward. It didn’t just...it didn’t smash.”
- Dr. Dre
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ15mWt_9Tw&t=118s
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what could have been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8tAeC3TBVE
The "Topless" version I always had in rotation was the one that had T.I. spitting Dre's reference vocals and then Nas' killer verse... Nas' really brought his A game for Dre and this track is one of the best unreleased tracks of all time.
Best unreleased tracks of all rhyme -
Dre "Topless"
Dre and Royce "Throne Is Mine"
Eminem "Our House"
2pac "Play Your Cards Right" OG version
6'2" "Day Like Today" prod. by Dre
to name a few
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As an Upstanding Member I would like to distance myself from this obvious troll thread and take a moment to reassert that Compton was, without a shadow of doubt, a very weak album that was not worthy of the Dr Dre name and is in many respects worse than Aftermath Presents... and that takes some doing.
You are free to hold any contrary opinions. I choose not to agree with them.
Be well, mellow citizens.