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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: abusive on March 28, 2021, 11:58:03 AM
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Dr. Dre joins Lil Wayne on Young Money Radio and the two speak on where they were at in their career in 1999. Dre recalls having to name his 1999 album The Chronic 2001 instead of The Chronic 2000 after Suge Knight released a Death Row Compilation album under the same name and speaks on how he felt leaving his masters behind after leaving Death Row Records.
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Wayne did the same thing that DR did to Dre. Juvie did 400 degrees, wayne turned around and did 500 degrees. Then young thug did the same thing to wayne when he did the barter 6 when wayne was supposed to do the carter 5.
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Rumour has it if that Dr Dre even mentions Suge Knights name that it triggers severe physical reactions varying in intensity, from mild to severe. That he needs Jimmy there to stroke his head reminding him that Suge is in a maximum security prison, as he counts steadily from one to five in a series of controlled deep breaths to calm down again.
Glad to see he got through this one without breaking down
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Wayne did the same thing that DR did to Dre. Juvie did 400 degrees, wayne turned around and did 500 degrees. Then young thug did the same thing to wayne when he did the barter 6 when wayne was supposed to do the carter 5.
So he did. I forgot about that. I don't even know when Wayne recorded his, but I remember Wayne's being a few years later after J's.
As time goes on, with this question it seems a lot of people believe that Dr Dre deserved the Chronic title as if it were his, like Death Row somehow sneakily undertook it, or 'stole' it from him. But Dre never had any communication with Griffey, Suge, or anyone who helped front the £millions that got the studio and equipment, or those who made the connections. Daz who had a huge hand in the Chronic was still over at Death Row, as was Jewell and Michel'le. Death Row had just as much right to the name.
The Chronic IMO wasn't even a Dr Dre album, but a Death Row compilation with Dr Dre's name just slapped on it. A compilation of the Death Row roster; Dre, Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, RBX, Kurupt, Daz, Michel'le, Rage, Jewell... It was just like Murder Was the Case, how that was initially driven as a Snoop album - even listed as one at the time in music stores under Snoop Dogg and right in with the Doggystyle tapes. Snoop was a bigger star than Dre at the time. It was known as 'The New Snoop Album' for a minute, even though technically it was a Death Row soundtrack / compilation.
Just like Chronic 2001 as well, using Dr Dre's name for the marketing purposes. To me, it's a revised and improved Aftermath compilation presenting the new Aftermath roster; Eminem, Hittman, Xzibit, and showcasing the production skills of mel-man, Mike Elizondo, Scott Storch etc. Only now, we know how much Eminem and Snoop wrote, even Jay Z and Crystal Johnson.
As far as I'm concerned Jimmy even has as much right to re-use the Chronic title for a pop compilation called Chronic 25 - the "High" school musical masterpiece, with some cheesy cheerleaders shaking those green pom poms for the first video.
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So he did. I forgot about that. I don't even know when Wayne recorded his, but I remember Wayne's being a few years later after J's.
As time goes on, with this question it seems a lot of people believe that Dr Dre deserved the Chronic title as if it were his, like Death Row somehow sneakily undertook it, or 'stole' it from him. But Dre never had any communication with Griffey, Suge, or anyone who helped front the £millions that got the studio and equipment, or those who made the connections. Daz who had a huge hand in the Chronic was still over at Death Row, as was Jewell and Michel'le. Death Row had just as much right to the name.
The Chronic IMO wasn't even a Dr Dre album, but a Death Row compilation with Dr Dre's name just slapped on it. A compilation of the Death Row roster; Dre, Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, RBX, Kurupt, Daz, Michel'le, Rage, Jewell... It was just like Murder Was the Case, how that was initially driven as a Snoop album - even listed as one at the time in music stores under Snoop Dogg and right in with the Doggystyle tapes. Snoop was a bigger star than Dre at the time. It was known as 'The New Snoop Album' for a minute, even though technically it was a Death Row soundtrack / compilation.
Just like Chronic 2001 as well, using Dr Dre's name for the marketing purposes. To me, it's a revised and improved Aftermath compilation presenting the new Aftermath roster; Eminem, Hittman, Xzibit, and showcasing the production skills of mel-man, Mike Elizondo, Scott Storch etc. Only now, we know how much Eminem and Snoop wrote, even Jay Z and Crystal Johnson.
As far as I'm concerned Jimmy even has as much right to re-use the Chronic title for a pop compilation called Chronic 25 - the "High" school musical masterpiece, with some cheesy cheerleaders shaking those green pom poms for the first video.
:snoopfacepalm:
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I was surmising on the moral right to use the 'Chronic' title in a music release, which I believe Death Row had more moral rights over it than Dre. Sure, Dr Dre owns 'The Chronic' trademark, and actually owns 'The Chronic 2000' trademark too (which is why Death Row's release is titled 'Chronic 2000' and not 'The Chronic 2000') but Dre who could have had a strong case having the actual ownership of 'The Chronic 2000' trademark, was probably so shook up of Suge that he didn't even challenge it. Instead he just calls his release "2001". It's the fans that call it Chronic 2001. In March 96 when he relinquished his 50% share in Death Row Records along with any of his copyrights too, he had 4% producer royalty rights to 'The Chronic', but waited until 2010 when Suge was out of the picture to start suing the new owners of Death Row for this, that and the next thing.
Dr Dre fan boys might idolise him regardless, but I don't have respect for the man at all. He comes across as unappreciative to those who have helped him out in his career, and just a phoney. And with the x3 women now claiming they were beaten by him just reaffirms that disliking for him.
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I was surmising on the moral right to use the 'Chronic' title in a music release, which I believe Death Row had more moral rights over it than Dre. Sure, Dr Dre owns 'The Chronic' trademark, and actually owns 'The Chronic 2000' trademark too (which is why Death Row's release is titled 'Chronic 2000' and not 'The Chronic 2000') but Dre who could have had a strong case having the actual ownership of 'The Chronic 2000' trademark, was probably so shook up of Suge that he didn't even challenge it. Instead he just calls his release "2001". It's the fans that call it Chronic 2001. In March 96 when he relinquished his 50% share in Death Row Records along with any of his copyrights too, he had 4% producer royalty rights to 'The Chronic', but waited until 2010 when Suge was out of the picture to start suing the new owners of Death Row for this, that and the next thing.
Dr Dre fan boys might idolise him regardless, but I don't have respect for the man at all. He comes across as unappreciative to those who have helped him out in his career, and just a phoney. And with the x3 women now claiming they were beaten by him just reaffirms that disliking for him.
:snoopfacepalm: :snoopfacepalm:
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I apologise that I can not dumb it down any further for you to understand
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So he did. I forgot about that. I don't even know when Wayne recorded his, but I remember Wayne's being a few years later after J's.
As time goes on, with this question it seems a lot of people believe that Dr Dre deserved the Chronic title as if it were his, like Death Row somehow sneakily undertook it, or 'stole' it from him. But Dre never had any communication with Griffey, Suge, or anyone who helped front the £millions that got the studio and equipment, or those who made the connections. Daz who had a huge hand in the Chronic was still over at Death Row, as was Jewell and Michel'le. Death Row had just as much right to the name.
The Chronic IMO wasn't even a Dr Dre album, but a Death Row compilation with Dr Dre's name just slapped on it. A compilation of the Death Row roster; Dre, Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, RBX, Kurupt, Daz, Michel'le, Rage, Jewell... It was just like Murder Was the Case, how that was initially driven as a Snoop album - even listed as one at the time in music stores under Snoop Dogg and right in with the Doggystyle tapes. Snoop was a bigger star than Dre at the time. It was known as 'The New Snoop Album' for a minute, even though technically it was a Death Row soundtrack / compilation.
Just like Chronic 2001 as well, using Dr Dre's name for the marketing purposes. To me, it's a revised and improved Aftermath compilation presenting the new Aftermath roster; Eminem, Hittman, Xzibit, and showcasing the production skills of mel-man, Mike Elizondo, Scott Storch etc. Only now, we know how much Eminem and Snoop wrote, even Jay Z and Crystal Johnson.
As far as I'm concerned Jimmy even has as much right to re-use the Chronic title for a pop compilation called Chronic 25 - the "High" school musical masterpiece, with some cheesy cheerleaders shaking those green pom poms for the first video.
I agree with alot of this. I just hate the constant narrative of Dre being some victim to DR/Suge.
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I was surmising on the moral right to use the 'Chronic' title in a music release, which I believe Death Row had more moral rights over it than Dre. Sure, Dr Dre owns 'The Chronic' trademark, and actually owns 'The Chronic 2000' trademark too (which is why Death Row's release is titled 'Chronic 2000' and not 'The Chronic 2000') but Dre who could have had a strong case having the actual ownership of 'The Chronic 2000' trademark, was probably so shook up of Suge that he didn't even challenge it. Instead he just calls his release "2001". It's the fans that call it Chronic 2001. In March 96 when he relinquished his 50% share in Death Row Records along with any of his copyrights too, he had 4% producer royalty rights to 'The Chronic', but waited until 2010 when Suge was out of the picture to start suing the new owners of Death Row for this, that and the next thing.
Dr Dre fan boys might idolise him regardless, but I don't have respect for the man at all. He comes across as unappreciative to those who have helped him out in his career, and just a phoney. And with the x3 women now claiming they were beaten by him just reaffirms that disliking for him.
And your respect means exactly what to Dr. Dre?
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And your respect means exactly what to Dr. Dre?
Nothing, and didn't claim that it did :) I'm sure Dre won't loose any sleep over what I or anyone else thinks about him, but I just don't place the man on this iconic superhuman pedestal some like to put him on. People are welcome to respect him though, but as a man myself, any man that beats on women (plural), doesn't get any respect from me, I don't care who it is
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I'd much rather have my health and mental clarity at that age, than a continued obsession or drive for money. I mean, at near 60, and there's still the ongoing allegations of violence against women from his past and his present, the multi-million $ divorce that's coming, the payout for the Beats By Dre idea he took, with Lamar still claiming he's owed over $100 million, along with Suge and his lifetime management deal that will still cause a few minor headaces along the way. Then there's Jimmy selling off his worldwide producer royalties out off the blue. Now we hear that Dre never showed to Easy's funeral (which most of us knew anyway) but hasn't done anything to contribute to his estate, and still gets no love from his main fan base. It's no wonder he was in intensive care with a brain aneurism a few months back. I wouldn't be able to handle all that stress in my mid 50's
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I'd much rather have my health and mental clarity at that age, than a continued obsession or drive for money. I mean, at near 60, and there's still the ongoing allegations of violence against women from his past and his present, the multi-million $ divorce that's coming, the payout for the Beats By Dre idea he took, with Lamar still claiming he's owed over $100 million, along with Suge and his lifetime management deal that will still cause a few minor headaces along the way. Then there's Jimmy selling off his worldwide producer royalties out off the blue. Now we hear that Dre never showed to Easy's funeral (which most of us knew anyway) but hasn't done anything to contribute to his estate, and still gets no love from his main fan base. It's no wonder he was in intensive care with a brain aneurism a few months back. I wouldn't be able to handle all that stress in my mid 50's
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I didn't know Kendrick has beef with the label. More than likely it's interscope and not aftermath that owes him. I'm not a fan of his but he don't deserve that. Remember Suge warned him about his deal.
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(https://i.ibb.co/4pv9qmx/bl.png) at the Dre slander. At least he lived his lyrics, fool! :P
You know how I know he don't give a fuck? Because he could've literally called his headphones anything else but Beats but still did because he knew they'd sell and the memes and free advertising would just bring him more promo so he's obviously over it. You know the whole world bought Beats with a smile from someone who smacked Dee Barnes.
I know I say Compton is wack, because to me it is, but man you can't hate on where this guy was and where he got to. Sparked not one but two classic labels that bought the dopest artists to the forefront, bounced from them without a penny and still caked up far more than anyone else. How can you not respect that?
His personal stuff was years ago, nobodies perfect and I guess you never did anything dumb when you were young?
Thats whats so wrong with this era and this whole whiny cancel culture that comes along with it yet the double standard for white folks doing some craaazzzzzy shit back then thats never mentioned ever again. Stop hating man, its bad for your health. Word to the good Doctor.
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Dr Dre wasn’t a kid, he was in his mid 20’s when he was setting up his friends, and about 30 years old when he gave Michel’le her last beating. Well into his 40’s and 50’s with the other allegations. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the product(s) just how half the world can (and do) enjoy Apple iPhones without getting on their knees and unzipping Tim Cooks pants. I enjoy a lot of Dre records that he put his name on, and love The Chronic. I just don’t like him as a human being that’s all. Would any of us respect Jimmy Saville? The man raised £40 million for charity
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Dr Dre wasn’t a kid, he was in his mid 20’s when he was setting up his friends, and about 30 years old when he gave Michel’le her last beating. Well into his 40’s and 50’s with the other allegations. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the product(s) just how half the world can (and do) enjoy Apple iPhones without getting on their knees and unzipping Tim Cooks pants. I enjoy a lot of Dre records that he put his name on, and love The Chronic. I just don’t like him as a human being that’s all. Would any of us respect Jimmy Saville? The man raised £40 million for charity
But you don't know the man personally so you don't have the right to personally like him or dislike him anyway. You know him as a musician so it's either you fuck with the music or you don't. But no one hear wants to waste their time reading about your personal opinion on a cat you don't even know. Makes no sense to me. All you going off of is what you think you know but you weren't there so why should you care? You know how many bitter ex bitches either lie or put extras on shit all to hurt them the best way they can? Are you naive? Just stick to the music and save all that other shit for the gossip column
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Nobody has to waste their time to read what I write about Dr Dre though. Granted I don't know the man personally, but I still have that right to like or dislike the personality presented, as anyone else does. People have disdain for certain politicians, news anchors, movie actors and all sorts of people in the limelight without knowing them personally, even on this forum, I don't see what makes Dr Dre an exception to that. If it's a topic on the music, I'll discuss the music
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Nobody has to waste their time to read what I write about Dr Dre though. Granted I don't know the man personally, but I still have that right to like or dislike the personality presented, as anyone else does. People have disdain for certain politicians, news anchors, movie actors and all sorts of people in the limelight without knowing them personally, even on this forum, I don't see what makes Dr Dre an exception to that. If it's a topic on the music, I'll discuss the music
But the thing is no one cares who you fake like or don't like so why type it? If it's adding something useful to the conversation then cool, but for us to sit here and have to read about your dislike for a man you haven't and probably won't ever meet is a bit much. Find a way to meet him and tell him how you feel yourself, but crying to us about it makes you look like a scorned ex girlfriend of Dre's or a bitter groupie