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Title: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: King of Kings Krayz1e Mesa on August 15, 2021, 10:10:21 AM
Fact Sccif iz wite
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 15, 2021, 11:30:11 AM
Because the bible says Job who was a Jew had black skin? Make this make sense for us Sccit.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: King of Kings Krayz1e Mesa on August 15, 2021, 09:23:43 PM
Sccif iz az gay n pale az it gets. Bitch delited mi disses rhymez n banned mi bcuz he can't handle. Sccif iz caught n his feelings.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 16, 2021, 08:58:19 AM
Because the bible says Job who was a Jew had black skin? Make this make sense for us Sccit.


show me where. the bible is in hebrew. don’t give me misinterpreted translations please. we are the keepers of the unaltered torah. speak on it.

i’m a mizrahi jew btw. ashkenazi jews can be considered white, but mizrahi jews share a bloodline with arabs aka semitic. family roots trace back to israel not europe ala ashkenazis.

mad zen, succ a baccas ass hoe
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 16, 2021, 03:59:21 PM

show me where. the bible is in hebrew. don’t give me misinterpreted translations please. we are the keepers of the unaltered torah. speak on it.

i’m a mizrahi jew btw. ashkenazi jews can be considered white, but mizrahi jews share a bloodline with arabs aka semitic. family roots trace back to israel not europe ala ashkenazis.

mad zen, succ a baccas ass hoe

Anything I post, you will just say its a mistranslation if it doesn't fit your agenda. Show me some physical descriptions of Hebrews from your scriptures. I've showed you mine, now you show me yours.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 16, 2021, 05:13:00 PM
Anything I post, you will just say its a mistranslation if it doesn't fit your agenda. Show me some physical descriptions of Hebrews from your scriptures. I've showed you mine, now you show me yours.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qn32QYD78KU&t=7s
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 17, 2021, 10:40:16 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qn32QYD78KU&t=7s

You co_sign everything in this video?

Explain Job 30:30 to me.
My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 17, 2021, 10:51:27 AM
You co_sign everything in this video?

Explain Job 30:30 to me.
My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.


yes

here is the original hebrew text

(https://i.ibb.co/FJbFd24/F431-E25-D-7-CB7-4-A53-BD3-E-CE45-DFEC0-B76.jpg)

which actually translates to:

“my skin is blackened and peeling off me, my bones charred by the heat”


please study hebrew and read the original scriptures, it will help a lot if u really bout this life
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 17, 2021, 02:44:41 PM

yes

here is the original hebrew text

(https://i.ibb.co/FJbFd24/F431-E25-D-7-CB7-4-A53-BD3-E-CE45-DFEC0-B76.jpg)

which actually translates to:

“my skin is blackened and peeling off me, my bones charred by the heat”


please study hebrew and read the original scriptures, it will help a lot if u really bout this life
I'll play along and go with your translation. How does it help your argument? lol The entire video argues that people were red and not black. Here is someone saying according to you and I that their skin is blackened. Which means to be made black. So you agree that Job was Black?
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 17, 2021, 03:18:27 PM
I'll play along and go with your translation. How does it help your argument? lol The entire video argues that people were red and not black. Here is someone saying according to you and I that their skin is blackened. Which means to be made black. So you agree that Job was Black?

u don’t need to “play along”, just study hebrew and it won’t have to be a game. in hebrew blackened is translated as DARKENED. nobody is literally the color black, not even the darkest of Africans. it’s telling u that he was in the sun for so long that even his BONES darkened .. it has nothing to do with race, but rather giving you an idea of how much heat he had to withstand. do black people have black bones too? if you’re arguing that this verse is about race, then that would have to be the case. so what color are black people’s bones?
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 18, 2021, 05:59:38 AM

which actually translates to:

“my skin is blackened and peeling off me, my bones charred by the heat.
Shouldn't it read; "my skin is reddened and peeling off me..."

You did say that you agreed with the video and in the video he said that Jews were red. Correct, or do I need to go back and re-watch it?
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 18, 2021, 07:28:32 AM
Shouldn't it read; "my skin is reddened and peeling off me..."

You did say that you agreed with the video and in the video he said that Jews were red. Correct, or do I need to go back and re-watch it?

(https://i.ibb.co/gmn9Ds8/39-A2-FF67-6-A19-430-A-9-F03-567-F9-B897622.jpg)


^^ this is what darkening from the sun means

it happens to every race, but moreso to people who arent already black

btw, this notion that all jews were the same color is funny to begin with. jews were a nation of many different people not based on race or color.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 19, 2021, 05:28:41 PM
You didn't answer my question. You said you agreed with the video, in which he said people were red. If someone is red and they get a darker red, shouldn't the word be reddened and not blackened? Also, now you're saying that Jews wearnt just one color but you're hell bent on saying they couldn't possibly have black skin. How can you be so sure that they had other colors EXCEPT black? Please don't say; "learn Hebrew!" :hubie:
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 19, 2021, 09:22:49 PM
You didn't answer my question. You said you agreed with the video, in which he said people were red. If someone is red and they get a darker red, shouldn't the word be reddened and not blackened? Also, now you're saying that Jews wearnt just one color but you're hell bent on saying they couldn't possibly have black skin. How can you be so sure that they had other colors EXCEPT black? Please don't say; "learn Hebrew!" :hubie:


yes, a red hue can darken, but nobody said all jews were red, there is no definitive text on color, and i never said NONE of the jews were black either, hence the ethiopian jews of today. the bible simply never put a focus on race, so all the mental gymnastics cats do to attribute one race to the jews is funnystyle shit. 

and btw if dude was already black he wouldn’t need to BLACKEN if it was in regards to race, right?

i mean there are multiple ways you can interpret this for your own personal agenda when u an outsider.

so, yea, you SHOULD study the language of the text if u genuinely care homie.

 :shittedon:
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 20, 2021, 01:01:19 PM

yes, a red hue can darken, but nobody said all jews were red, there is no definitive text on color, and i never said NONE of the jews were black either, hence the ethiopian jews of today. the bible simply never put a focus on race, so all the mental gymnastics cats do to attribute one race to the jews is funnystyle shit. 

and btw if dude was already black he wouldn’t need to BLACKEN if it was in regards to race, right?

i mean there are multiple ways you can interpret this for your own personal agenda when u an outsider.

so, yea, you SHOULD study the language of the text if u genuinely care homie.

 :shitte
Your argument is only valid if we except your definition of your translation. The KJV bible says he is black. None of the arguments that you've presented have changed my mind that Job was black.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 20, 2021, 01:32:49 PM
This video starting at 9:15 explains the translation process.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HPwejSGbmxU
So no, I don't need to know Hebrew because those who translated it to English knew it.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 20, 2021, 01:48:01 PM
So no, I don't need to know Hebrew because those who translated it to English knew it.

 :snoop: :dead:



the problem here is that there’s numerous different english translations and only 1 version of the hebrew text


so yea, if u do wana debate this with someone who speaks hebrews, you’ll always be one step behind
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 20, 2021, 01:52:07 PM
Your argument is only valid if we except your definition of your translation. The KJV bible says he is black. None of the arguments that you've presented have changed my mind that Job was black.


and that’s because u don’t speak hebrew.


SHACHAR translates to blackened/darkened .. not black.


KJV is the new testament.. has absolutely nothing to do with judaism and is one of hundreds of different translations/misinterpretations of our hebrew scriptures. there’s a reason we’re the keepers of this text and are the ones who speak the language.

 :think:
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 20, 2021, 06:28:35 PM

and that’s because u don’t speak hebrew.


SHACHAR translates to blackened/darkened .. not black.


KJV is the new testament.. has absolutely nothing to do with judaism and is one of hundreds of different translations/misinterpretations of our hebrew scriptures. there’s a reason we’re the keepers of this text and are the ones who speak the language.

 :think:
you don't know what you're talking about bro. The kjv is old and new testament. You could have at least watched the video. I think I'm done here. I'll let the readers draw their own conclusions.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 20, 2021, 09:45:40 PM
you don't know what you're talking about bro. The kjv is old and new testament. You could have at least watched the video. I think I'm done here. I'll let the readers draw their own conclusions.

king james covers old testament but it is a CHRISTIAN interpretation (which means it’s based on the additions of the new testament teachings) .. new testament was never written in Hebrew, hence why it’s blasphemous to even bring KJB into this discussion .. Judaism does not recognize KJB, as we only follow the original hebrew scriptures.

shabbat shalom

 :urwelcome:
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 21, 2021, 01:30:55 AM
True story: I was at a Panda Express once getting some orange chicken and chow mein for lunch when I see this brother with a yamaka on and tzitzit (or whatever the tassels are that some Jews wear. Forgive me I took Jewish Studies in college like 10 years ago and I can't remember what I ate this morning let alone what I learned back then). I was walking out when homie locked eyes with me (I was the only other black guy in that Panda Express at the time). He stood up and yelled "SHALOM, HEBREW" as loud as he could.

I didn't know what to say so I was like "Thanks, man" and walked out. Black Israelites don't play.

I don't know what this has to do with anything so I'm just gonna see myself out of this thread.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 21, 2021, 09:43:30 AM
True story: I was at a Panda Express once getting some orange chicken and chow mein for lunch when I see this brother with a yamaka on and tzitzit (or whatever the tassels are that some Jews wear. Forgive me I took Jewish Studies in college like 10 years ago and I can't remember what I ate this morning let alone what I learned back then). I was walking out when homie locked eyes with me (I was the only other black guy in that Panda Express at the time). He stood up and yelled "SHALOM, HEBREW" as loud as he could.

I didn't know what to say so I was like "Thanks, man" and walked out. Black Israelites don't play.

I don't know what this has to do with anything so I'm just gonna see myself out of this thread.


lmfao


dudes are str8 nuts.. but they passionate, i’ll give em that
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 22, 2021, 07:30:46 PM
^So let me get this straight. Are you saying that Israel isn't in Africa and that none of the prophets were African? Or are you saying they were African and not black?
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 22, 2021, 09:26:28 PM
^So let me get this straight. Are you saying that Israel isn't in Africa and that none of the prophets were African? Or are you saying they were African and not black?


israel is not in africa

 :mindblown:
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 23, 2021, 06:29:16 AM
You only partially answered the question. Answer it for me and the other readers. I also want to know the Hebrew word used to describe Solomon's lover mentioned in the video who was black.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 23, 2021, 07:29:01 AM
You only partially answered the question. Answer it for me and the other readers. I also want to know the Hebrew word used to describe Solomon's lover mentioned in the video who was black.


since israel is not in africa they were not african, duno how much more clear i can be. i already addressed the race thing.. since race is not discussed in the torah, there is no point in debating who was what. all we can deduce from common sense is that since israel is in the middle-east and the mizrahi jews are the original jews + holders of the scriptures since the beginning of time, that once u add 1+1, u can safely conclude that the israelites were of middle-eastern descent.

you never told me what race u are, but i assume you’re not black or white. why won’t u say?

one thing i can tell u safely is that once black people lost their heritage via slavery, some tried to find themselves via latching onto other cultures. you will see black people who claim they were the original moors, original natives, original asians, etc. they misinterpret vague scripture or use incorrect translations to apply these heritages to themselves in order to feel a sense of importance and belonging. it’s not uncommon for outsiders such as yourself to fall for the okey doke, as some are very passionate about their stance and spend their entire life trying to piece it together + convince the world.

i’ll watch the video soon and give u my thoughts.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 23, 2021, 07:55:26 AM
So you're saying Egypt isn't in africa either?

You keep mentioning race as did the rabbi in the video. I don't adhere to race and the bible doesn't teach it in the way you mean it. Me saying Jews are a black African people is based on race but rather what the bible says.
As I stated before, you don't even know what you're arguing against which is why you keep going back to Hebrew Israelite arguments.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 23, 2021, 08:41:57 AM
So you're saying Egypt isn't in africa either?

You keep mentioning race as did the rabbi in the video. I don't adhere to race and the bible doesn't teach it in the way you mean it. Me saying Jews are a black African people is based on race but rather what the bible says.
As I stated before, you don't even know what you're arguing against which is why you keep going back to Hebrew Israelite arguments.


since u keep dodging tellin me what race u are, can you at the very least state your nationality/ethnicity?

i’m not mentioning race, i’m mentioning hue as per interpretation, not definitive statements. same as dude in the video. egypt is the end of africa and borders the middle east. complexion is based on weather conditions. black people are black because africa is the hottest continent. israel is not nearly as hot as africa, hence the middle-eastern people having a lighter complexion, but still much darker than white people from europe, where it’s cold as fuck. egyptians we’re a blend of both the middle-eastern and black complexion.

again, the bible never says anything about a race of black people lol. in fact, to say someone is blackening/darkening actually gives more leverage to the idea that they weren’t black to begin with.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 23, 2021, 10:25:07 AM

since u keep dodging tellin me what race u are, can you at the very least state your nationality/ethnicity?

i’m not mentioning race, i’m mentioning hue as per interpretation, not definitive statements. same as dude in the video. egypt is the end of africa and borders the middle east. complexion is based on weather conditions. black people are black because africa is the hottest continent. israel is not nearly as hot as africa, hence the middle-eastern people having a lighter complexion, but still much darker than white people from europe, where it’s cold as fuck. egyptians we’re a blend of both the middle-eastern and black complexion.

again, the bible never says anything about a race of black people lol. in fact, to say someone is blackening/darkening actually gives more leverage to the idea that they weren’t black to begin with.
I'm confused now. You denied that any of the prophets were African, yet you say Egypt is in africa and Moses was Egyptian. Wouldn't that make him African probably with black skin, according to you because of the heat?  :sas: take your time.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 23, 2021, 11:02:03 AM
I'm confused now. You denied that any of the prophets were African, yet you say Egypt is in africa and Moses was Egyptian. Wouldn't that make him African probably with black skin, according to you because of the heat?  :sas: take your time.


you don’t know the story of moses?

tell me you’re joking bro

moses was RAISED by egyptians, not born one .. if u duno the basics then there’s more you should study before learning hebrew tbh


also u still dodgin my question re your ethnicity
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 23, 2021, 12:44:23 PM
I was born in america, I'm am an American from the continent of north america.
Moses was born in Egypt. Therefore he was an Egyptian from the continent of africa.
What don't you understand about that?
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 23, 2021, 01:08:58 PM
I was born in america, I'm am an American from the continent of north america.
Moses was born in Egypt. Therefore he was an Egyptian from the continent of africa.
What don't you understand about that?


so because he was born in egypt that makes him black, even tho his family werent egyptians? based on that logic, freddy mercury was black too.


 :lulz:


what is your ethnic background?
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 23, 2021, 03:01:36 PM

so because he was born in egypt that makes him black, even tho his family werent egyptians? based on that logic, freddy mercury was black too.


 :lulz:


what is your ethnic background?
I never said he was black, I just used your logic.

I did prove my point though.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 23, 2021, 04:31:15 PM
I never said he was black, I just used your logic.

I did prove my point though.


you didn’t prove anything

if a person of chinese descent is born in africa, theyre still chinese

and you STILL duckin the ethnicity question
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 23, 2021, 05:58:58 PM

you didn’t prove anything

if a person of chinese descent is born in africa, theyre still chinese

and you STILL duckin the ethnicity question
You lack understanding about nationality. The chin in Chinese comes from being from China. Not based on physical traits. Your questing has no bearing on this discussion which is why I keep ignoring you. Its creepy that you keep asking.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 23, 2021, 06:04:05 PM
You lack understanding about nationality. The chin in Chinese comes from being from China. Not based on physical traits. Your questing has no bearing on this discussion which is why I keep ignoring you. Its creepy that you keep asking.


actually, it absolutely does

ethnicity can definitely influence opinion on this topic

plus u dropped an N-Bomb with a hard E-R in the other thread

so if u just guna duck tellin me what u are, i’ll assume you’re a spicy cac 
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 23, 2021, 06:05:33 PM
. I also want to know the Hebrew word used to describe Solomon's lover mentioned in the video who was black.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 23, 2021, 06:07:32 PM
told u i’d check the video later


also .. lucy liu isnt chinese?


 :mjlol:
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 24, 2021, 03:12:20 PM
I'm waiting Elohim-40 :dotell:
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Proc pka KP on August 24, 2021, 03:35:37 PM
Skkit is arabic, that's not white
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 24, 2021, 06:34:40 PM
I'm waiting Elohim-40 :dotell:

tbh there’s no point in discussing with u if u too scary to claim your ethnicity

u want me to watch a 30 minute video and don’t even have the courtesy to answer a simple question
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 26, 2021, 06:30:19 AM
Nah, you only need to watch a few minutes, maybe three. Because you clearly don't know what you're talking about as evidenced by your outlandish claims made about the kjv. They specifically mention Hebrew.

Show me ethnicity in your Torah.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 26, 2021, 07:34:36 AM
Nah, you only need to watch a few minutes, maybe three. Because you clearly don't know what you're talking about as evidenced by your outlandish claims made about the kjv. They specifically mention Hebrew.

Show me ethnicity in your Torah.

what claims did i make that were outlandish about the king james bible (christian bible)? and what 3 mins do i need to watch??
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: abusive on August 27, 2021, 05:24:24 AM

and that’s because u don’t speak hebrew.


SHACHAR translates to blackened/darkened .. not black.


KJV is the new testament.. has absolutely nothing to do with judaism and is one of hundreds of different translations/misinterpretations of our hebrew scriptures. there’s a reason we’re the keepers of this text and are the ones who speak the language.

 :think:
cool story!
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/7835.htm


That's the Hebrew word the kjv uses. Your just trying to put a spin on it to explain away why Job is black. You really don't understand that the translators of the kjv knew what they were doing and created a world renowned translation? One that has withstood the test of time, has been used for history, science, archeology etc. because of its accuracy?
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: Sccit on August 27, 2021, 04:49:17 PM
cool story!
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/7835.htm


That's the Hebrew word the kjv uses. Your just trying to put a spin on it to explain away why Job is black. You really don't understand that the translators of the kjv knew what they were doing and created a world renowned translation? One that has withstood the test of time, has been used for history, science, archeology etc. because of its accuracy?


again, there are multiple translations and only one hebrew text..

hebrew is my first language, i do not need a translation. kjb is NOT recognized by Judaism as legit. anything that touches the new testament lacks divinity.

once again, shachar (the hebrew word used) means darkened/blackened … it is 100% a verb in the hebrew text. no ifs ands or buts.. shin chet resh with the verb vowels. FACTS only. learn the language of the scriptures. it’s the first thing recommended to outsiders when they come in to practice judaism.
Title: Re: Sccif ACTUALLY beliefs he not white
Post by: King of Kings Krayz1e Mesa on September 23, 2021, 10:23:48 PM
Sccif bann mi 4 sexual harrisment. Admins he's a fag.