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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 08, 2024, 01:05:45 AM
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Dude actually went platinum. I remember one of my friends got me the cassette tape of his debut album for my 12 year old birthday but I don’t remember ever listening to it. I stumbled across this joint he did with Rza and I’m like, “you know what Shaq had some skills on the mic”. He doesnt sound bad. It’s he the best athlete rapper? Better than dana barros, Kobe, iverson, Prime Time, etc?
https://youtu.be/JsLG8ynicBA?si=byGqzlqemvOBORZZ
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I liked that track he did WC and Nate. There also was a video for it
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Chris Webber could flow…he had a single with Kurupt an album as well
he also produced a couple of tracks for Nas
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he was dope .. most successful rapper athlete for sure
but kobe was a sleeper, lowkey had some raw skill on the mic as well .. david stern made him shelve his album tho
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he was dope .. most successful rapper athlete for sure
but kobe was a sleeper, lowkey had some raw skill on the mic as well .. david stern made him shelve his album tho
Yah Kobe was dope
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Chris Webber could flow…he had a single with Kurupt an album as well
he also produced a couple of tracks for Nas
Haven’t heard him flow but heard his production on Nas album
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Haven’t heard him flow but heard his production on Nas album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BY7Bjxonjw
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Biological Didn't Bother G-FUNK Remix is awesome, still bump it to this day. DJ Quik produced a couple joints for him that were tight. And the joint with Nate Dogg too was good.
I think Shaq is ok if he has good producers behind him, but probably not a good enough rapper to save a bad track.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BY7Bjxonjw
I don't know that shit was pretty underwhelming. I think Shaq got him beat by a lot. Kurupt doing his Kuruption era rap style where he thought he was such a big star he didn't need to try anymore.
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I don't know that shit was pretty underwhelming. I think Shaq got him beat by a lot. Kurupt doing his Kuruption era rap style where he thought he was such a big star he didn't need to try anymore.
true on Kurupt
Damian Lillard has skills on the mic...alot better than these recent rappers that have come out in the last 15 years or so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jvY3EtDWg8
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true on Kurupt
Damian Lillard has skills on the mic...alot better than these recent rappers that have come out in the last 15 years or so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jvY3EtDWg8
yeah youre right..
and more on that Kurupt note, he was thinking he was a star when he wasn't. Average music listener still didn't know who he was. He was like a roadie for Snoop and Snoop's homie to the average non-hip-hop music fan watching MTV
we all love Dogg Food and think its classic and consider Kurupt and Daz legends and all that... but I think Daz and Kurupt found out pretty fast when they went solo, that a lot of their record sales had to do with Snoop's star power and not their own.
Dogg Pound was viewed as like D-12 was with Eminem. So imagine D-12 putting out an album and trying to sell without Eminem.
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Rza hooked him up with some prime dark Gravediggers type shit.
Spectacular cardiovascular attacker!
Shaq's on the track with the Blackula
Puzzler! Rugged slugger, 40 oz guzzler
Gold nugget fangs punch holes inside your jugular…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUc7LU8zo2o
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yeah youre right..
and more on that Kurupt note, he was thinking he was a star when he wasn't. Average music listener still didn't know who he was. He was like a roadie for Snoop and Snoop's homie to the average non-hip-hop music fan watching MTV
we all love Dogg Food and think its classic and consider Kurupt and Daz legends and all that... but I think Daz and Kurupt found out pretty fast when they went solo, that a lot of their record sales had to do with Snoop's star power and not their own.
Dogg Pound was viewed as like D-12 was with Eminem. So imagine D-12 putting out an album and trying to sell without Eminem.
Exactly
its often ovelooked how big a part Snoop played in Dogg Foods success
Snoop in '95 was still prime Snoop in terms of popularity coming off Murder Was The Case soundtrack the year before and Pac had yet to release anything on Death Row when Dogg Food came out
as soon as Pac released AEOM in February of '96 Dogg Food was put on the backburner, no other singles were released and it stalled at 2 million
Daz and Kurupt never even saw gold sales again on their own
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Exactly
its often ovelooked how big a part Snoop played in Dogg Foods success
Snoop in '95 was still prime Snoop in terms of popularity coming off Murder Was The Case soundtrack the year before and Pac had yet to release anything on Death Row when Dogg Food came out
as soon as Pac released AEOM in February of '96 Dogg Food was put on the backburner, no other singles were released and it stalled at 2 million
Daz and Kurupt never even saw gold sales again on their own
Yes because until “California Love” dropped Snoop was the biggest star in rap from The Chronic release up until Pac overtook him. So at the time of Dogg Food even casual fans copped the Dogg Food album not because of Kurupt and Daz but because Snoop was in the video kicking down buildings and cause Snoop put them both in “Doggy Dog World” music video, etc. They really thought it was like Snoop’s rap group—and Snoop was all over that album.
On the other note I thought Streetz and Space Boogie at least went platinum for Kurupt.
…but yeah, Kuruption was 300,000 and RRGB was 300,000 I think they both got a huge reality check when they saw those sales like “damn we owe a lot to Snoop”
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Yes because until “California Love” dropped Snoop was the biggest star in rap from The Chronic release up until Pac overtook him. So at the time of Dogg Food even casual fans copped the Dogg Food album not because of Snoop and Daz but because Snoop was in the video kicking down buildings and cause Snoop put them both in “Doggy Dog World” music video, etc. They really thought it was like Snoop’s rap group—and Snoop was all over that album.
On the other note I thought Streetz and Space Boogie at least went platinum for Kurupt.
…but yeah, Kuruption was 300,000 and RRGB was 300,000 I think they both got a huge reality check when they saw those sales like “damn we owe a lot to Snoop”
yeah I've seen sites say anywhere from 300,000 to 1 million for all 3 of those albums
they were never certified though so there is no way to verify it
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yeah I've seen sites say anywhere from 300,000 to 1 million for all 3 of those albums
they were never certified though so there is no way to verify it
Those are questions they never ask in interviews that I've always wanted to hear them ask. Like, did ya'll make nay bread off RRGB, off Kuruption, of Streetz, or Space Boogie?? Did your label lose money? What happened.
It's like with the case of Warren G. Obviously he made a lot off G Funk Era. It supposedly saved Def Jam (which I think is a big exzaggeration).
But I always wonder about the other albums like Take A Look Over Your Shoulder. It supposedly went gold. Yet you never hear anything about it. I listened to it everyday for like two months straight. I did hear him say once in an interview that his 3rd album I Want It All (which was gold) the label went defunct so he didn't get any money on that.
And then you really got to differentiate between up front money and recoup. So here's my guess on all the above mentioned albums.
G Funk Warren got a nice advance because of his name at the time being associated with Snoop and Dre and then he even made a lot of loot on the back end when a year later the recoup and royalties started coming in after the label was paid back its money.
But it is possible on all the other albums I mentioned they got a nice advance and then didn't get shit on the back end. No debts or nothing, but their parent label ate all those costs. So at the end of the day they just had a nice advance from the deal they signed to do the album.
That's all just a guess. I'd love to hear the whole breakdown. I read a nice Jermaine Dupri interview once where he broke it down simply by saying that an album has to sell 300,000. If it sells 300,000 then they make their money. The label makes the money, they are album to pay for the album expenses, and the artists makes money--but he said anything under 300,000 you are kind of losing money. He said that in a 98 interview and that was the clearest and simplest breakdown I've ever heard.
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Shaq wasn’t a good rapper BUT you couldn’t tell me that when he first dropped. Plus he had great production (“I Know I Got Skills”!) and guests, all stars from the East and West. I still bump his first two albums
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he was dope .. most successful rapper athlete for sure
but kobe was a sleeper, lowkey had some raw skill on the mic as well .. david stern made him shelve his album tho
Be honest! Kobe’s track with Tyra was terrible to the point where it got erased from existence
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Chris Webber could flow…he had a single with Kurupt an album as well
he also produced a couple of tracks for Nas
Surviving the Times is one of my all-time Nas tracks- and produced by C-Webb!
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How about Flow On by Cedric Ceballos? Not the greatest rapper but the track is vintage Warren G.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=g5s_cmff2Uk&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo
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He had so many dope guest appearances, plus that Shaq-Fu game was the shit back in the day. Shaw was tight. He does DJ sets which are always a blast. He does not spin anything I like but he plays all his shows free, or donates the money to charities. Watching Shaq enjoy life is a good time in itself.
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How about Flow On by Cedric Ceballos? Not the greatest rapper but the track is vintage Warren G.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=g5s_cmff2Uk&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo
Love it man!! Thanks for the link.. good ol days life was really like that, Ricky Harris in the video ;D
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not the best rapper but his vocal sounds good and he's pretty decent. he's actually sounding great on a couple of features recently...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OqT9caND2U&t=151s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbWSunBmacM&t=146s
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How about Shaq on the Bow Down remix! This dropped rigjt when he signed to the Lakers. Classic shit over the CREAM beat - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gub8lU7hRZM
Shaq rips this
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How about Shaq on the Bow Down remix! This dropped rigjt when he signed to the Lakers. Classic shit over the CREAM beat - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gub8lU7hRZM
Shaq rips this
classic timing man didn't know about this
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How about Flow On by Cedric Ceballos? Not the greatest rapper but the track is vintage Warren G.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=g5s_cmff2Uk&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo
I remember this, nice track 8)
Ceballos could ball though
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I remember this, nice track 8)
Ceballos could ball though
maybe he was having too much fun in the rap golden age era--he kind of seems like another one of those guys with talent to be elite NBA player but instead just ended up being a talented and good player but not great.
Alot of talent on those Pheonix Suns teams in those days they were always good even before Barkley Kevin Johnson was da man !! and I think they had tom chambers back when chambers won an MVP?? Everyoone forgets that guy won an MVP
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maybe he was having too much fun in the rap golden age era--he kind of seems like another one of those guys with talent to be elite NBA player but instead just ended up being a talented and good player but not great.
Alot of talent on those Pheonix Suns teams in those days they were always good even before Barkley Kevin Johnson was da man !! and I think they had tom chambers back when chambers won an MVP?? Everyoone forgets that guy won an MVP
Tom Chambers was not only a great player but a great dunker as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB7cJiVGoJQ
but yeah those Phoenix teams always were solid in the late 80s early 90s
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maybe he was having too much fun in the rap golden age era--he kind of seems like another one of those guys with talent to be elite NBA player but instead just ended up being a talented and good player but not great.
Alot of talent on those Pheonix Suns teams in those days they were always good even before Barkley Kevin Johnson was da man !! and I think they had tom chambers back when chambers won an MVP?? Everyoone forgets that guy won an MVP
chambers never won mvp
all-star mvp yes, but he wasn’t an nba mvp caliber player
still a baller
and yea, ceballos was infamous for taking a vacation mid-season wit the lakers LOL
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chambers never won mvp
all-star mvp yes, but he wasn’t an nba mvp caliber player
still a baller
and yea, ceballos was infamous for taking a vacation mid-season wit the lakers LOL
somehow I must have mixed it up with the All-Star MVP, not sure.
...as for Ceballos I mostly remember him for the blind-folded dunk. The Dunk contest was actually a big deal when I was a kid, it was like one of the highlights of the year. The year Dee Brown won it with the pumps we all went out and bought Reebok Pumps after that