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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: _That_Cracka_J on May 25, 2003, 09:49:48 PM
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I was talking to my friend's sister's group of friends today (they are 16-18 years old) and we were talking about rap. They listen to rap and buy CD's, but they had never heard of Spice 1, C-Bo and some other rappers I was naming. Now I know those two aren't the biggest names in hip-hop, but that's all me and my crackaz used to bump '92 to present time. It kinda made me feel like my parents would have felt back in the days when they used to break out their old records and shit! It's got me wondering (and worried)........is gangsta rap dead?
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Naw, gangsta rap isn't dead...maybe the commercial force that it was back in the early-mid 90s is dead, but gangsta rap isn't. It just went underground. I don't know about your friend's sister's group, but what I've found in general is that people don't like to scratch beneath what is shoved down their throat. So they're not gonna know about Spice 1 and C Bo. Back when I got into this gangsta shit it was in the public's eye, so artists lumped under that genre benefitted just from association. I remember walking into malls and seeing Spice 1 CDs as a "Featured Item" back in 93, I couldn't do that now because that's not what's big (I don't know what is though). The thing is back then you didn't have to already be into gangsta rap to know about them, it was on MTV, Congressional Hearings, the Source (back when the Source meant something) etc. now it seems that you have to already be into gangsta rap to know about them, and less people are into it. It seems like rap is more fragmented.
That Cracka J, if you didn't get into gangsta rap when you did, would you be as into it as you are? Would you be into it at all? I don't know if I would.
peace,
tnp
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gangsta rap has been dead lol
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That Cracka J, if you didn't get into gangsta rap when you did, would you be as into it as you are? Would you be into it at all? I don't know if I would.
Good point.
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Commercialized and Club Rap has taken over but gangsta rap will never die, it still lives amongst us especially within this message board, the younger generation lol lol they dont know jack shit about rappers like C bo, brotha lynch hung, gangstarr etc... i could go on and on, its because they are growing up listening to different rappers
we grew up listening to NWA, Eazy E, 2pac
they are growing up listening to Nelly, Ja Rule, 50 Cent
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they are growing up listening to Nelly, Ja Rule, 50 Cent
Why don't people list Eminem in the poppy department...lol
It suck's when people don't like to admit reality.
his shit is more than pop...it's mainstream.
So please mention Eminem in the "Fucked up" up hip hop catogory as well..
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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they are growing up listening to Nelly, Ja Rule, 50 Cent
Why don't people list Eminem in the poppy department...lol
It suck's when people don't like to admit reality.
his shit is more than pop...it's mainstream
So please mention Eminem in the "Fucked up" up hip hop catogory as well..
Hatesrats 2oooTre
Hell Yeah Eminem is soooo fuckin Pop...look at his videos
and Gangster Rap aint Dead its just not commercial like before
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they are growing up listening to Nelly, Ja Rule, 50 Cent
Why don't people list Eminem in the poppy department...lol
It suck's when people don't like to admit reality.
his shit is more than pop...it's mainstream
So please mention Eminem in the "Fucked up" up hip hop catogory as well..
Hatesrats 2oooTre
Hell Yeah Eminem is soooo fuckin Pop...look at his videos
and Gangster Rap aint Dead its just not commercial like before
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Yeah Em has fucked it up a bit, by being pop, don't get
me wrong I still think he's a dope MC but he can be more
pop than n'sync!
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what's pop? sellin records? then pac, drdre, jay-z, biggie etc are pop as well.
pop stands for popular music which means many ppl like which means selling much records.
face it.
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"Pop/commercial" and "mainstream" are different IMO.
Eminem and 50 Cent are certainly mainstream but not pop or commercial.
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"Pop/commercial" and "mainstream" are different IMO.
Eminem and 50 Cent are certainly mainstream but not pop or commercial.
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Now I know those two aren't the biggest names in hip-hop, but that's all me and my crackaz used to bump '92 to present time.
Hahaha my man Cracka J is killin' me with that line. :D (be careful you might be labeled as a racist, by a couple of dumb motherfuckers)
But the problem is, is that these young kids don't do the research into what they are listening to. It's like how can you understand Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and Amen Ra and not know the basis of Jazz and Jazz fusion. How can you understand Schooly D, Ice T, NWA, Above The Law and not understand why "gangsta rap" is so prevalent in Amerikkkan culture. I'm noticing by being on these forums that these "youngin's" are illiterate when it comes to Hip-Hop music and culture and even events like "Hip-Hop Appreciation Week" are right in their faces.
And anybody with a half-of-a-brain knows that if Eminem or 50 cent didn't sell any records, they would still be considered as underground artists, only loved by the Back-Packer crowd. Em and 50 are underground artists (check their resume) and fools can't be mad cause they sold a gang of records. You come into this business to make money, point blank. So going "pop" or "commercial" can be good or bad, considering your take on the words itself and how you take your art.
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Yeah, just cause an artist makes it big, it doesn't make them commerical......I agree, there's a difference between commercial and mainstream.
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And anybody with a half-of-a-brain knows that if Eminem or 50 cent didn't sell any records, they would still be considered as underground artists, only loved by the Back-Packer crowd. Em and 50 are underground artists (check their resume) and fools can't be mad cause they sold a gang of records. You come into this business to make money, point blank. So going "pop" or "commercial" can be good or bad, considering your take on the words itself and how you take your art.
Well said. (typed)
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Commercialized and Club Rap has taken over but gangsta rap will never die, it still lives amongst us especially within this message board, the younger generation lol lol they dont know jack shit about rappers like C bo, brotha lynch hung, gangstarr etc... i could go on and on, its because they are growing up listening to different rappers
we grew up listening to NWA, Eazy E, 2pac
they are growing up listening to Nelly, Ja Rule, 50 Cent
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