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Title: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: HBKid_Jr on September 30, 2002, 08:51:50 PM
i really cant go back b4 1980 so all these wrestlers r basically from 1980 to present,  this is in no order

1.  Hogan
2.  andre tha giant
3.  ric flair
4.  stone cold
5.  HBK
6.  bret hart
7.  undertaker
8.  sting
9/10.  hall an nash
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 30, 2002, 08:55:18 PM
where is Ultimate Warior and Macho Man?
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Smooth on September 30, 2002, 08:57:14 PM
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where is Ultimate Warior and Macho Man?


word you gotta have Ultimate Warrior in there!...

and yeah that list of wrestlers is on point...
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Trauma-san on October 01, 2002, 05:05:55 AM
I'd say

1. Hogan
2. Ric Flair
3. Andre the Giant
4. Macho Man
5. Stone Cold
6. Bret Hart
7. HBK
8. Sting
9. Rock
10. Undertaker

But I dunno, it's all subjective to whoever makes the list.  Just who'd I'd say was most important, but man, there were a ton that I enjoyed more.  Ric Rude, Scott Steiner, Ted Dibiase, list goes on and on of the underrated greats.  
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: bez on October 01, 2002, 12:50:52 PM
take andre the giant off there and add macho or and get nash off there and add somebody like the rock anmd its on point.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Trauma-san on October 01, 2002, 05:54:02 PM
I dunno, andre was pretty important up till about 87.  Early 80's, he was "THE" wrestler.  
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Mr.Pac-Man on October 01, 2002, 06:11:47 PM
1. Hogan
2. Ultimate Warrior
3. Bret Hart
4. Ric Flair
5. Macho Man
6. HBK
7. Stone Cold
8. Undertaker
9. Rock
10. Ted Dibiase

What about Tag Teams???.....
1. Demoliton (Ax, Smash and Crush)
2. Legion of Doom
3. Hart Foundation (bret and anvil)
4. The Rockers
5. Power and Glory
6. Nasty Boys
7. Dudley Boyz
8. The Outsiderz (nWo)
9. Mega Powers
10. IRS Inc.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 01, 2002, 06:20:18 PM
TAG Teams

demolition b4 crush
new age outlaws
legion of doom
tha hart foundation (bret an jim tha anvil)
mega powers (hogan an savage)
tha outsidaz
tha brittish bulldogs
tha rockers
harlem heat
dudley boyz
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Trauma-san on October 01, 2002, 07:59:38 PM
The steiner brothers! you forgot them.  Come on now.  
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 01, 2002, 08:10:10 PM
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The steiner brothers! you forgot them.  Come on now.  
i completely forgot about tha steiners
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Trauma-san on October 02, 2002, 04:30:23 AM
Yeah, i'd put them up there definately.  Also, some of the guys from the 4 horsemen, but I guess that's not really a tag team.  Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard, etc.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: bez on October 02, 2002, 05:33:14 AM
Its LOD before Demolition for me.  I didnt see much of demolition tho.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: verbalassaulta on October 02, 2002, 11:13:15 AM
i've been watching wrestling for like 15 yrs...not much anymore though ...but here s my list
1. hogan
2.  andre the giant...was the biggest attraction before hogan
3.. stone cold...
4...ric flair...
5...macho man
6...undertaker
7...bret hart
8...hbk.
9....rock
10...ultimate warrior
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Black_Smoke on October 02, 2002, 12:47:21 PM
I'd say Bret Hart is the best wrestler ever

2nd hogan

3rd-Shawn Micheals
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Suga Foot on October 02, 2002, 01:35:42 PM
i'm not really into wrestling anymore but what about The Bushwackers and Rowdy Roddy Piper and Junk Yard Dog?
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: bez on October 02, 2002, 01:56:29 PM
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I'd say Bret Hart is the best wrestler ever

2nd hogan

3rd-Shawn Micheals


Thats far to new school.

Undertaken is so above bret hart and shawn.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 02, 2002, 02:28:01 PM
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I'd say

1. Hogan
2. Ric Flair
3. Andre the Giant
4. Macho Man
5. Stone Cold
6. Bret Hart
7. HBK
8. Sting
9. Rock
10. Undertaker


Word. I agree with the list of wrestlers.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 02, 2002, 04:32:48 PM
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Thats far to new school.

Undertaken is so above bret hart and shawn.


he so isnt.....
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 02, 2002, 08:07:49 PM
Most important wrestlers ever... so I'm taking it ever. If wrestling was a subject, I'd have a PhD.

1.  Hulk Hogan... No bigger name in the busness than him. Took wrestling from the smoke filled areas, to in front of 93,000 in the Silverdome.
2.  Gorgous George... The inventer of the gimmick. Was the most hated wrestler og his time. Muhammad Ali said he tried to mirror him with is pretty gimmick.
3.  Jusin Liger... Inventer of many high flying movers you see today, like the moonsault, and even the Shooting Star press.
4.  Andre the Giant... The biggest draw for many years. Undefeated for 15 years, Andre was the first wrestler to be a Hollywood smash, leading the way for others like Hulk Hogan and The Rock.
5.  Steve Austin... Redefined what role a face plays in wrestling. The most profittable wrestler ever, gave wrestling that Attitude back.
6.  Bruno Sammartino... WWWF champion for 8 years. The first major draw in the New York era. The WWF built itself off this man. The first WWWF legit champion, Bruno's great matches made Madison Square Garden the wrestling capital.
7.  Ric Flair... The greatest wrestler ever. By far, the best heel to ever play the part. His matches, and rivalries are legandary, and his bloody blond hair is classic. Ric Flair is also the person with more World title reigns than anyone, 14. Top that.
8.  Lou Thez... The last Undisputed Champion before Chris Jericho. Lou was a classic mat wrestler, who lack charisma to draw in New York, but across the country was a legand. Lou had southern toughness, and this lead to many great runs as a World Champ.
9.  Shawn Michaels/Bret Hart... Shawn was/is the most athletic champion to grace the ring. Bret might be the only mat wrestler to hang with Ric Flair. Together, along with McMahon, made '97 the year to get back into wrestling, as for that night, it was not fake.
10. Christ Jericho... You may not realize it, but he is the best performer now, and him being choicen as the first Undisputed Champion in 50 years is not an accident. Jericho has what it takes to be remembered for many years to come, and has a great love for the busness.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Trauma-san on October 03, 2002, 08:04:11 AM
^^ I'd agree with your opinion on a lot of that, but I think 3 things:

1. Andre wasn't really undefeated for 15 years, it was just a gimmick.  

2. I dunno about Austin being the most profitable wrestler ever.  Hogan had tonnnnns of liscensing for his entire career, I'd still have to go with him.

3. I think flair's up to 15 time champ now, but not positive.  
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: grimace on October 03, 2002, 12:31:24 PM
Flair's got 16 recognized, official title reigns. But depending on how much you go to the "smart" sites, he can have anywhere from 16 to 20.



M dogg's was pretty much on point. I wouldn't have put Liger in there becuase I don't know who he is. But Snucka would show up in there somewhere.



I kinda think Flair should be higher than Stone Cold, becuase he is the greatest wrestler of all time, but as I think about it, I'd have to agree with you.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 03, 2002, 03:04:01 PM
A couple of mistakes... I was going off memory and not websites. And I did hear McMahon say that in fact Austin has made more money for the WWF than even Hulk Hogan. Inflation has a great deal to do with that, as Hulkamania shirts were lke $10, were as Austin 3:16 shirts were $20. Austin 3:16 shirts though were also the highest selling shirt ever, in terms of money grossed, and number sold. Maybe Flair has 16 title reigns, I lost count at 14... LOL. And I figured it was a gimmick for Andre, but hey, it worked to promote the great Wrestlemania III match.

Also, my rankings could change, I went off what is more important to the busness than rather the actual wrestling. Like many of Liger's moves are done by Billy Kidman, Rey Mistero Jr., Shawn Michaels, and many other high flyers. And since the high flying moves are greatly important for getting littler wrestlers over, that would rank higher than say being just a great wrestler, 'cause when everyone copies you, they built your legacy for you.

Oh, and the person that will be on that list someday, maybe even number one is Kurt Angle. I think his mic skills, mat skills, and his once in a while high risk moves, can make him a true star, and even the number one wrestler ever. And those gold medals don't hurt.
Title: Re: 10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: bez on October 04, 2002, 06:22:12 AM
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A couple of mistakes... I was going off memory and not websites. And I did hear McMahon say that in fact Austin has made more money for the WWF than even Hulk Hogan. Inflation has a great deal to do with that, as Hulkamania shirts were lke $10, were as Austin 3:16 shirts were $20. Austin 3:16 shirts though were also the highest selling shirt ever, in terms of money grossed, and number sold. Maybe Flair has 16 title reigns, I lost count at 14... LOL. And I figured it was a gimmick for Andre, but hey, it worked to promote the great Wrestlemania III match.

Also, my rankings could change, I went off what is more important to the busness than rather the actual wrestling. Like many of Liger's moves are done by Billy Kidman, Rey Mistero Jr., Shawn Michaels, and many other high flyers. And since the high flying moves are greatly important for getting littler wrestlers over, that would rank higher than say being just a great wrestler, 'cause when everyone copies you, they built your legacy for you.

Oh, and the person that will be on that list someday, maybe even number one is Kurt Angle. I think his mic skills, mat skills, and his once in a while high risk moves, can make him a true star, and even the number one wrestler ever. And those gold medals don't hurt.


true dat.
Title: Re:10 most important wrestlers of all time
Post by: Jay ay Beee on October 18, 2002, 08:50:46 AM
Mick Foley