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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Trauma-san on July 08, 2003, 06:38:01 PM
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Of course this assumes it's just strictly democrats and republicans. I'm talking electoral votes, though, they'll probably all go dem or republican. I'm gonna vote 60/40, I think he'll win pretty easily, but with the youth in america being more liberal, I doubt it'll be a huge landslide.
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Some past results:
2000:
Bush - 271 - 50.4% - Republican
Gore - 266 - 49.4%
Gore actually was the winner of the popular vote.
1996:
Bill Clinton - 379 - 70.4% - Democrat
Robert Dole - 159 - 29.6%
Clinton pounded him.
1992:
Bill Clinton - 370 - 68.8% - Democrat
George Bush - (incumbent president) - 168 -31.2%
Clinton pounded him.
1988:
George Bush, Sr. - 426 - 79.2% - Republican
Michael Dukkakis - 111 - 20.6%
Bush Sr., coming off 8 years as V.P., destroyed Dukkakis.
1984:
Ronald Reagan - 525 - 97.6% - Republican
Walter Mondale - 13 - 2.4%
Reagan equaled god to most of America after his first term, so this was his second term election, and he basically humiliated Mondale he beat him so bad.
1980:
Ronald Reagan - 489 - 90.9% - Republican
Jimmy Carter (incumbent president) - 49 - 9.1%
A lot of people say that Carter was perceived as being unintelligent, since he was from the south. Of course there was a ton going on at the time that didn't make it very easy for him, either.
1976:
Jimmy Carter - 297 - 55.2% - Democrat
Gerald Ford - (incumbent president) - 240 - 44.6%
Close one...
1972:
Richard Nixon - 520 - 96.6% - Republican
George McGovern - 17 - 3.2%
1968:
Richard Nixon - 301 - 55.9%
Hubert Humphrey - 191 - 35.5%
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1992:
Bill Clinton - 370 - 68.8% - Democrat
George Bush - (incumbent president) - 168 -31.2%
Clinton pounded him.
This is the one you need to be learnin' from..
See after Gulf war I, Bush senior's personal approval rating was even higher than his son's was after the latest one. (A phenomenal 81% I believe.) A year later he got his ugly ass pounded and destroyed. Why?
Americans traditionally vote, always have and always will, on the economy. (Clinton:"It's the economy, stupid.")
The Republican tactics for the 2004 election will be to focus on Bush the leader (roll pics of him in his army uniform etc.). They will stay the away from corporate fraud (the Democrats will take him there) (George's daddy's friends stealing pensions), and the generally poor state of the economy.
Clinton murdered Bush I. However, Clinton is the most charismatic US politician of all time, he is the master of presentation. The Democrats will not have a candidate as good as him. But Clinton whipped arse, they only need to win by 1 college vote.
Bush's ratings have dropped to a (still high) 60%. However, latest polling reveals that while many people are pleasantly suprised by Bush, only 27% would be SURE to vote Bush in 2004.
I am worried about Howard Dean running, because if he gets the nomination, the Republicans will murder him with 'extremist' propaganda. But I doubt Dean will get it, I predict John Kerry will get it. (Although, Hillary still has time to throw her hat in, but v. unlikely).
I predict a narrow win in 2004 for the Democrats.
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1976:
Jimmy Carter - 297 - 55.2% - Democrat
Gerald Ford - (incumbent president) - 240 - 44.6%
Close one...
1972:
Richard Nixon - 520 - 96.6% - Republican
George McGovern - 17 - 3.2%
THE BIGGEST WIN EVER I THINK. IRONICALLY, THE THINGS NIXON GOT UP TO IN TRYING TO WIN THAT ELECTION GOT HIM KICKED OUT 2 YEARS LATER.
1968:
Richard Nixon - 301 - 55.9%
Hubert Humphrey - 191 - 35.5%
RFK WOULD HAVE BEATEN NIXON LIKE HIS BROTHER DID IN '60.
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BTW the guy I wanna go against Bush is John Edwards, and he's got a real chance at the nomination as well.
Check this real talk out, son of a poor mill worker:
"President Bush honors and respects only wealth. … He wants to be certain that those who have it keep it. … He comes from a world where wealth is largely inherited, not earned. That is not the world I come from. … The difference between George Bush and John Edwards is, while he honors and respects only wealth, I honor and respect hard work. I honor and respect responsibility. I believe in opportunity. He's about building barriers and closing doors; I'm about exactly the opposite. I want to knock barriers down. I want to open doors.
"Bush has shown a pattern of striving to eliminate the taxation on wealth and the income on wealth. … He wants to see the estate tax gone; he wants to see the tax on capital gains gone; he wants to see the tax on dividends gone. … The president wants to shift the tax burden in America from wealth and income on wealth—people who sit at home and get their statements every month from their investments and see how much money they've made—to people like my father. … He wants working people to carry the tax burden."
"In America, do we still believe that the son of a mill worker can go toe to toe with the son of a president? I do" "
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lieberman is goin get the democratic card an sad thing is people wont vote for him just b/c he is a jew. bush is goin win again :'(
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Stick to the topic, please. Just how much WILL Bush win by?
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Stick to the topic, please. Just how much WILL Bush win by?
depends on how many ballots his people throw out this time...
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Stick to the topic, please. Just how much WILL Bush win by?
depends on how many ballots his people throw out this time...
LMAO.... good one...
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i know this would shock a lot of people on this board but most likely i'll probably vote against bush.
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60/40 in Bush's favour.
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Assuming he's not impeached and Hillary doesn't run against him, and neither does John Edwards, and John McCain doesn't foment rebellion (as he surely will)...he'll win 60/40, and that's taking into account electoral fraud.
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i hope bush is out by 2004
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^^ That's not answering the question.
How much will the democrats lose by in 2004? You were kinda insinuating they'll win.
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DEAN FOR AMERICA. 8)
I wish Bush gets his ass beat, real;istically it may be 60/40 loss for Bush.
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^^ Again, you're not answering the question.
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^^ Again, you're not answering the question.
LOL...trauma trauma...
Aiite I predict that the republics will win by -11% of the votes.
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Stick to the topic, please. Just how much WILL Bush win by?
depends on how many ballots his people throw out this time...
lol *shakes head*
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^^ Again, you're not answering the question.
LOL...trauma trauma...
Aiite I predict that the republics will win by -11% of the votes.
You got me.
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DEAN FOR AMERICA. 8)
I wish Bush gets his ass beat, real;istically it may be 60/40 loss for Bush.
Howard Dean, M.D. (D) for President
Dean will win :D
(http://politicalpunk.smugmug.com/photos/395418-M.jpg)
http://www.deanforamerica.com
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Bush 70/30
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Assuming he's not impeached and Hillary doesn't run against him, and neither does John Edwards, and John McCain doesn't foment rebellion (as he surely will)...he'll win 60/40, and that's taking into account electoral fraud.
If Bush wins the 2004 election - which is not a foregone conclusion - the American people will show themselves to be stupider than anyone thought.
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Ignoring Trauma's assing about, the Democrats have a big chance as long as the party unites around one candidate. I worry about Dean because he's 1) Too radical for many Democrats and 2) The Republicans will make out like he's a member of Al Queda.
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2) he's a member of Al Queda.
What exactly do you know, mr. beeeeee?
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What exactly do you know, mr. beeeeee?
They're onto us, Jay! Where are the razors? HOW DID THEY FIND OUT WE'RE TERRORISTS?!?!
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Bush will win. He has been able to create the illusion of power in this life. But the real power is with Allah. And he is the best of planners.
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Bush will win. He has been able to create the illusion of power in this life. But the real power is with Allah. And he is the best of planners.
Yawn. Why can't you stay on topic instead of making everything an advertisment for Islam.
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Bush will win. He has been able to create the illusion of power in this life. But the real power is with Allah. And he is the best of planners.
Well, i'm glad that he's planned for Bush to win 2 terms. Maybe you should submit to the will of Allah.
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Well, i'm glad that he's planned for Bush to win 2 terms. Maybe you should submit to the will of Allah.
I ask Allah to help me be content and patient with his plan of George Bush as our president. Even though my opinions may run counter to the agenda of George Bush but that is also Allah's will. I have full faith and certainty in the will of Allah. He is the best of planners. Just as George Bush makes plans Allah makes larger, comprehensive plans. And believe me, Allah Subbana Wa Tallah is waiting for George Bush on the day of judgement. He is ready for him.
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^^ Yeah, I agree. Now, do you think Allah's waiting for the guys that spit all over the muslim name when they slammed their planes into the twin towers in New York? They've done more damage to the muslim name than any terrorists combined, ever. Don't you think Allah's waiting on them?
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^^ Yeah, I agree. Now, do you think Allah's waiting for the guys that spit all over the muslim name when they slammed their planes into the twin towers in New York? They've done more damage to the muslim name than any terrorists combined, ever. Don't you think Allah's waiting on them?
Well, I leave that one up to Allah. I am not a Muslim scholar. I do know that the United States is using their money to support Isreal in their oppression of the Palestinians. So Muhammad Atta and them felt they were fighting against that oppression by destroying the bank that pays for the bullets that kill Palestinian kids. The problem is nowhere in the Qur'an has Allah permitted us to kill civilians. There are also no strong Hadith's, or statements made by the prophet that would allow the killing of civilians. So, like I said, I will leave it up to Allah, I'm not a scholar.
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Infiinite, don't be so moderate when talking about other Muslims who are just as wrong and evil as Bush. Say the same thing you said for Bush. Allah is awaiting them too. I'm Muslim, but I don't overlook the wrongs being done by Muslims while hating non-Muslims for things they do. You are too caught up in your new-found religion man. Relax.
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lol!
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Infiinite, don't be so moderate when talking about other Muslims who are just as wrong and evil as Bush. Say the same thing you said for Bush. Allah is awaiting them too. I'm Muslim, but I don't overlook the wrongs being done by Muslims while hating non-Muslims for things they do. You are too caught up in your new-found religion man. Relax.
Islam is a way of life, it is 360 degree's, it is a comprehensive religion. There is no such thing as being too "caught up" in Islam.
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Infiinite, don't be so moderate when talking about other Muslims who are just as wrong and evil as Bush. Say the same thing you said for Bush. Allah is awaiting them too. I'm Muslim, but I don't overlook the wrongs being done by Muslims while hating non-Muslims for things they do. You are too caught up in your new-found religion man. Relax.
man ive tried explaining this b4 to him he just doesnt get it
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Infiinite, don't be so moderate when talking about other Muslims who are just as wrong and evil as Bush. Say the same thing you said for Bush. Allah is awaiting them too. I'm Muslim, but I don't overlook the wrongs being done by Muslims while hating non-Muslims for things they do. You are too caught up in your new-found religion man. Relax.
Islam is a way of life, it is 360 degree's, it is a comprehensive religion. There is no such thing as being too "caught up" in Islam.
Yes, it's a way of life. But, Islam also teaches to judge people equally, regardless of their religion. I think you know that. Also, it is wrong to shove the religion down peoples' throats. One thing is preaching it, another is to tell people that they're wasting their lives simply because they do not read the Qu'ran. You make excuses for muslim wrong-doers and consider non-Muslim people who commit the same crimes as defenders.
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Infiinite, don't be so moderate when talking about other Muslims who are just as wrong and evil as Bush. Say the same thing you said for Bush. Allah is awaiting them too. I'm Muslim, but I don't overlook the wrongs being done by Muslims while hating non-Muslims for things they do. You are too caught up in your new-found religion man. Relax.
Islam is a way of life, it is 360 degree's, it is a comprehensive religion. There is no such thing as being too "caught up" in Islam.
Islam also teaches to judge people equally, regardless of their religion.
The most abused teaching of Islam, Id have to say
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The most abused teaching of Islam, Id have to say
That doesn't make the religion bad, it make the person bad. There is bad people that belong to every religion, and the above-described is an abused teaching in most religions. Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, etc. are all taught to value human life equally, but that doesn't seem to be the case in today's society. In conclusion, you're making an idiot out of yourself, or a bigger idiot I should say, with your stupid/ignorant/prejudice/retarded comments.