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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Jay ay Beee on August 05, 2002, 04:54:29 AM
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I fucked your topic up man, sorry, it wasn't on purpose just because your an Arsenal fan
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lol
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Ayo Jay what happened to that Amsterdam tournament thread? I cant find it?
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Ayo Jay what happened to that Amsterdam tournament thread? I cant find it?
I shouldn't be given so much power. lol. I was fucking around earlier and three threads went 'kaput'! lol
did you watch it?
Parma are shite but I thought there was encouraging aspects of our performance (apart from that Uruguayan joker)
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I saw your first one against Ajax but missed the Parma game.
Rio is gonna be phenomenal for you this year, Keane looked sharp as usual but you gotta lose Barthez and Forlan, it was a sturdy performance overall though imo.
I heard Veron got a stunner against Parma? Who else netted?
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Yeah Carroll played the full game vs Parma and I was just so much more relaxed. He may not be a 'superstar' or an entertainer but I think he can just do what the fuck he is meant to do better than Barthez and that is provide a reliable last line of defence.
We may as well keep Forlan as our 4th Striker but we need another striker because imagine if Ole or Ruud got injured and we had to rely on him
Veron was awesome BUT we controlled the game throughout so he had the time and the space to do everything he wanted. I would still rather play a scrapper like Butt alongside Keane in big matches away from home vs Arsenal, the Dippers etc.
Giggs got the first and Soskjaer got the last one
With Neville G out for at least a month from the start of the season Wesley played well at right back and would be better than Neville P. However there is no way that Wesley is a centre back and I do believe that O'Shea is ahead of him in the pecking order after Larry and Rio.
Silvestre is still dodgy but he's so good going forward we may as well take a risk
Now there is two BIG things on the horizon with United. I will deal with one in a new thread but the other is Scholes. This is about 40% - 50% likely to happen. Ronaldo should be going to Madrid for huge money. With some of that money Inter will offer £20 million for Scholes and Alex will say to him "It's your choice." And I think Scholes will go. Because 6 into 4 do not go. Fergie has indicated that Butt is going to start the season, you can't drop Keane, Beckham is safe, Giggsy is hit and miss but at his best he is the greatest attacking midfielder in the last 25 years, and Fergie really wants to prove himself right with Veron. Plus with Stewart moving from shirt number 28 to number 17 and playing for Scotland regularly we have tons of central midfielders. Basically there is a 50% chance Scholes will leave.
PS. I was working on Saturday and missed Arsenal vs 1860 but heard Mr Arrogance scored a hat trick. Did you see it. And I also heard an alarming fact that Kanu is Arsenal's third highest earner. lol. Oh well he's better than Forlan i suppose.
safe
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Scholes was awful last season, his best is behind him imo, selling him is sound business.
Your defence still looks thin though (although still better then most), i've heard good things about O'Shea, but he lacks experience, but then Rio rarely gets injured and is usually fit i suppose. I'm a fan of Silvestre, i like wing backs who get forward, he does lack defensively but has great potential imo.
I saw the Arsenal match, watch for Aliadiere to break through this year, he is something special, Henry and Bergkamp were linking up beautifully throughout, so were Silva and Vieira, Ashley and Wiltord also played well. On the downside, Sol looked fat and slugish, Carini had two saves the make, made one and missed the other, not impressed, Cygan looked horrible, and Edu was inept out wide on the left, mixed reactions really, without Gio, Bobby and Freddie we lack width, when Lauren and Ashley go forward we lack cover, so we need them back really, we looked strong overall though.
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Give Forlan time I think he will be ok, I dont think Fergie would of bought him if he didnt realize that he was a good player and could score goals, every striker go's thru a stage where they cant score. Maybe its just Forlans turn for that stage, but I think once he nets 1 or 2 he will start to net a few.
I think you could of done with keeping Yorke tho, I always thought he was a good striker, very strong, powerful and not afraid to get stuck in. He will do well for blackburn.
Scholes is a great player and the goal he scored in the tournament would show anybody how quality he is. A great run thru the defence and a fantasic controlled volley into the net. I hope for England that he stays with Man utd, I think by going to Italy his game wont improve, I think italian footy is slow and not as fast paced as english is, As for England as a country I think we need fast players and I can see Scholes becoming lazy if he gos to Italy.
Thats my feelings on that n e ways
and as for kanu being the 3rd highest player at arsenal, if I become manager of The gunners he wud be first out of the door for me, he does nothing, not worth 5 million in my opinion.
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and as for kanu being the 3rd highest player at arsenal, if I become manager of The gunners he wud be first out of the door for me, he does nothing, not worth 5 million in my opinion.
Word up homie.
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I mean I wud rather have Richard Wright,
Oh wait we have him, MUAHAHAHAHA
Joachim's reply:
Yer Bez but who has the fox in the box??
Bez:
Dam,I'm guna cry.
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Where the fuck is Francis anyway?
At least Forlan can walk (even if he can't run and kick at the same time)
Where does Aldiere play? Striker isn't it? I remember him coming on for you against someone last year on TV (maybe Newcastle in the FA Cup). Cygan is good, solid, but I didn't think he would be first choice. Is he? He should adjust to the pace.
Yeah I could definitely see Edu being lost on the left because he just isn't a winger, he's a great link player with the short passes, ya know, linking defence midfield and attack. I'd play him first choice with Vieira, I assume Gilberto is a reserve (remember: Stephane Guivarch has won the World Cup).
Carini, well, I've seen him play two full games and one higlight game, he's a reserve keeper, I don't think he can make the step up, IMO Manninger should have stayed around, he was awesome in the first double, but faltered the second time he came into the team and Wenger musn't like him personally.
I'm still not sure about Lauren, he is Silvestre-like to me, while Cole Ash proved me wrong in the World Cup with strong defensive displays.
Bez, you're on point about Scholes moving being bad for England, but to be honest, I would rather United won the Worthington Cup than England won the World Cup so I don't care.
And Yorke has not been focused for 2 and a half years now, he brought down Bosnich and vice versa, and he was pulling down Barthez as well. I would have paid Blackburn £2 million to have him regardless as to whether he scores 30 goals next season. The striker we missed last season was not Yorke but he is also black and also plays for Blackburn.
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Yeah Aliadiere's a striker. It's still a toss up between Keown/Cygan/Upson to see who partners Sol at centre back, id prefer Keown or Upson going by what i've seen of Cygan so far, but i'll give the bloke a chance, we'll see Sunday.
We should've kept Richard Wright, he's good and will get better. (damn you Bez >:( )
Expect Gilberto and Paddy to be the first choice partnership in midfield, they compliment eachother well, they have similar styles which allows us to throw Paddy forward instead of making him anchor Edu or Ray-valdo.
As for Yorke, selling him was right, how many times has he been in the press coming out of a night club at all hours with a grip of women, he's a pro footballer, he should act like one.
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Yorke was nothing without Cole
Cole had an awesome combination of power and strength - although his finishing was often shit, he worked well for us and I have no doubts that we would have seen of Leverkusen if he had played
Richard Wright will never do better than Everton. How many "future England goalkeepers" have we had now?? Remember Nicky Weaver?
Your confidence about Gilberto Silva is strange. He was not eactly great in the World Cup, I think Brazil would have won the World Cup with me in midfield. Turkey, Germany, England are nothing compared to Liverpool, United and the top European teams. Let alone Costa Rica, China and Belgium.
I heard Seaman had cut his hair. ?.
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Yup, I suppose you are right jay when you say about the future england international keepers, Simo was even suggested as being one for the future. In realistic terms tho I feel wright has a good chance to be behind england sticks one day. Wright, Kirkland are too very good keepers that witrh the right attitude and form could become to of the best in europe. I hope Wright does well for us because I knwo taht the blue fans will be behind him 100 percent of the way, if he trys his best and doesnt make n e stupid mistakes.
I like Gilberto Silva, he had strength, speed and accuarcy, he will do well at Arsenal if given a game. Once everyone is back to full fitness I can see him not getting in the team and like Imatoto leaving at the end of the season.(Hopefully Everton will get in there for him, lol, straight swop with Gemmill,lololo)
Dam seaman got rid of his hair, dam it actually started to grow on me. Looks good on the old muccer.
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I've been impressed with Silva from what i've seen, he has all the attributes a defensive midfielder needs, crazy stamina, strong but good in the tackle, speed and he plays it simple. He's the perfect shield for our back line, while Vieira attacks. Also i fully trust Wenger's judgement.
Richard Wright just lacks experience and confidence, playing first team football at Everton should bring experience and confidence will come naturally. He still has the potential to be an England International imo.
And Seaman's still got his pornographic hair, but Petit has apparently cut his over at Chelsea, Graeme Le Saux is reportedly devastated.
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So many cheap shots at Le Saux
Why the fuck did he not go to the World Cup
He had been on the left wing all season for Chelsea
All I'm saying about Gilberto is that there is no way Charlton would have signed him if he wasn't in the World Cup, people make too much of the "World Cup winner" phrase. He could be good for you I suppose.
Wright has got potential, but the worrying thing is that he seems a confidence player. The best keepers forget their mistakes straight away and carry on, Schmiechel made a few howlers in his time for us but he didn't care, he just shouted at one of his defenders, usually Bruce or Pallister, preferably one of the Nevilles, and carried on. Now last season Wright kept dropping them in, and didn't seem to have the mental ability to recover, so Wenger actually put Taylor ahead of him. There's a big chance for Wright to establish himself as England keeper, as Seaman is collecting his pension, Martyn is past it, and James, while being the number 1 shotstopper in the premiership, still hasn't learnt how to catch the ball. But Robinson and Kirkland are miles ahead of him. Oh BTW, another prediction from me for this season is that you will see the TRUE Dudek. He will follow in the tradition of Grobellar, James, Friedel and Westerweld as a shit Liverpool goalkeeper. Also Schmiechel is so far past it it's unbelievable, he's out for the first 2 months of the season and if Kevin Keegan was intelligent he would sell Weaver for a couple of million and keep Carlo Nash in goal. But he isn't so he'll obviously play Weaver and Schmiechel instead of Nash.
BTW a question: Who cost around £9.5 million and has played less than 5 competitive first team games for his premiership club? What a waste of money.
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Oh and it's not Jeffers, the guy I'm talking about has never been injured in his year at this club (almost a year)
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Im confident Silva prove himself in the league, just like he did at his former club and during the world cup. From what ive seen of him there is no question of his ability in my mind.
Keegan is tactically inept, he is out of his depth in the premiership where tactics are the key to success.
I dunno who the £9.5 million cat is.
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Van Bronchusrst?
Soz cant spell
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It's Kirkland
Deadline day for transfers, Feyenoord have told Houllier that Dudek won't be leaving, Houllier panics, as he only has one day Coventry hold him to ransom and he pays 9 and a half million (i think) for Kirkland but while he is doing that Feyenoord have decided Dudek can leave after all so Houllier begs his board to let them buy Dudek as well.
Then they tried to spin it to the media like they were meant to do it lol
Stupid scousers
That probably gave him his heart attack
Whoops
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Dudek plays for the cameras, i watched the Liverpool game the other night, he parries/punches everything and jumps around for the sake of it, im not a fan.
£9.5 mill for Kirkland? Hahaha thats hilarious, Liverpool will end up like Leeds that way.
Whats y'all thoughts on is Diouf, Diao and Baros?
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I watch neither of the Liverpool games because they were on at the same time as United both days and because they are extremely boring to watch
I heard Barros was excellent, Houllier actually handled his transfer very intelligently by shielding him from any media attention by purchasing that waster Anelka at exactly the same time. Whether Houllier meant this I don't know. If it was Pinnochio that did it he definitely didn't mean it.
To be fair to Liverpool they were in for both Diuf and Diao before the World Cup, so it's not like they were flash in the pan signings like Poborsky/Suker etc. I think Diouf will cause problems in the dressing room, I don't think he's a team player but maybe Houllier can change him. Even then he won't break in to the Owen/Heskey partnership.
Diao seems a squad player to me. Bouba Diop, Fadiga and Cisse all outshined him in the World Cup in midfield.
They need a winger, Duff is logical, but I don't think Duff will move until next summer. I'd be very upset if Duff didn't come to us because look who our covering wingers for Giggs and Beckham are.
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Kirkland will be good in the future tho, I think he will get a few games in the cups next season.
baros is a good player, always has been and I think will be, he needs a bit of first team footy tho.
Diouf seems a great player but the question is if he can adjust to the english style of play, same with diao.
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Diouf looks a similar style of player to Anelka, superb attacking but piss poor defensively, should do aight.
Not seen much of Diao, he wasnt impressive in the Senegal/France match, but with Gerrards inability to stay fit he should get a fair crack at the first team.
Baros is an out and out goal scorer, if he can build a strike partnership with Owen he'll be great, but theres gonna be huge competition for first team strikers at Anfield.
This year i think 'Boro could do well with Maccarone, Juninho and Boateng.
So whos going down this year then? I reckon Sunderland and maybe West Brom, i dunno who else, it'll be mad tight down there this year.
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Yer Baros should be good for Liverpool, but with Heskey, Owen, Litmanen I cant see him getting much first team footy exept for cup games.
Dam Wright, We got beat 2-0 tonight by Anderlecht and Wright conceeed 2, Thats now played 3 conceeded 4, styill not good enough for the blues we need to to really perform this season.
I was actually chatin to my friends about boro before, they have invested well this season they have spent nearly 20 million and I think a good top 10 place for them this season. You forget they got Geremi too, hes a good player. My relegation predictions are:
18. Charlton
19. West Brom
20. Birmingham
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Exactly my opinion with Sunderland and WBA, I don't think Blues will go down as they've spent well and Bruce has proven he can do well if he stays in one place at a time.
Man City have the absolute worst defence in the Premiership. Schmiechel and Weaver are crap, Mettomo, Dunne, Howey ditto, they must have signed another defender but nobody big, so it all depends on how many they can score. If they score enough they'll stay, I think they will.
Tigana will be the first manager to leave/get sacked, Fulham could be in trouble.
The only thing that kept charlton up was the fact that they won the London league (lol), you know what I mean they beat all the other London clubs, if they lose this ability they will plummet.
Djorkaeff may not be bothered anymore as he accomplished his task of going to the World Cup, and Okocha is the most inconsistent player of all time. But I'm not going to say Bolton because I made that mistake last season.
Dark horse for the drop: Villa. I am biased against them as I hate them because their fan base is a joke and all they can do is blame their chairman, they've also got rid of two of their best three midfielders, Boateng and Merson, with Alpay wanting away. I dunno if they will (they probably won't) but in the words of Kevin Keegan, I'd love it, I'd love it.
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yer word I hate Villa, they are just so boring. lol
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Villa, Everton and Spurs.
Sad.
3 Big Clubs (Villa have won the fucking European Cup) going nowhere.
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har di har fuckin har
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{Insert Kurt Angle's catchphrase here}
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LOL LOL LOL
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hey no probs Jay, ive been away for a while so havnt had chance to reply, youve probably forgot me already! nice one for the help with the pic, ill try it in a min.
so it looks like theres only three people who like footy on this board then? a manc, a scouser and now two gooners, we're one up on you already!
I would wish you good luck for the coming season, but being man u, im sure youll have all the luck u need anyway ;D
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Well, there is more that like Football, during the World Cup there was tons, but most of them don't care about the Premiership
We had no luck last season whatsoever. Arsenal had it all. If you hadn't got that penalty against Spurs at home things would have turned out differently but oh well lets look ahead.
Also the FA is already trying to rob us of the title by trying to take Keano off us
lol and What the Fuck was going on with Liverpool's shirts on Sunday?? That is one of the worst kits I've ever seen.
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Keane is a disgrace, what a fucking animal, i cant believe i used to respect that idiot.
Arsenal had all the luck? Is that the reason why we done the double? Wow it was lucky we had that massive injury crisis eh? We won the league on ability not luck, and when we win it again this year what will you put it down to?
I've had all i can take of arrogant United fans pissing all over us and telling us we won the double through luck or because Ferguscum sold Stam, when United were winning everything we gave you fools props, when you won the champs league i was in a pub full of gooners cheering you fools on, now you aint on top no more you really should show some grace.
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so it looks like theres only three people who like footy on this board then? a manc, a scouser and now two gooners, we're one up on you already!
Hell NO!
Theres A Boltoner As Well ;D
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Come on, Arsenal obviously deserved to win both trophies last season, we can have no complaints, nor can the bunch of fuckwits from Merseyside as Arsenal were the best, and they still are the best until we prove otherwise
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Jay mate sorry I am totalyl disagreeing with you on this one.
Arsenal played amazing in most games last season adn they deserved to win everything they did. League and F.A cup. Scoring in every game is amazing and they just played well. No luck involved. I dont think you can be lucky or unlucky in football, you go out either win lose or draw. Arsenal just had a great season and judging by the way the played Liverpool at there own game on Sunday and won I think they might have another great season ahead of them.
I will agree with you about the Liverpool kit tho, its totally discusting isnt it, what where they thinking!
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Arsenal were the best last season
Gooner says we always have luck, so I pointed out when Arsenal had luck last season
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LOL k,
Hey Jay u seen the stuff about Inge Haaland and Roy keane.
After seeing that tackle about 20 times in super slow mo all I can say is OWWWWWWWWWw and I have lost total respect for Roy Keane. I have never really liked him but I have always respected him as a player but to do that to somebody is just stupid and dumb and he should be fined to fuck.
I know taking a step out on to a football field involves risks but risks should be risks from taclking and not dick heads intenting to hurt you like Keane admitted.
What an asshole.
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What would you do if:
You had just ripped your cruciate ligament up, you were out for 10 months, and then, while you are on the floor in awesome pain, someone stands above you and tells you to stop faking it wanker. Then afterwards he says it was funny that Keane was out for 10 months.
And you've only just seen the tackle?
He hit Haaland on the right leg, Haaland played for the remainder of the season, then had an operation on his left knee and is still injured now. And he blames Keane for his injury? What a dick.
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I'll tell you what, at least Keane does his damage on the field, unlike that lanky piece of shit you worship.
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Roy Keane is a disgrace to Ireland and Man Utd, fuck him.
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He has personal beefs
But you just have to look at the all time disciplinary record of every Premiership player to find the dirtiest piece of shit there is, and guess who it is?
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He has personal beefs
But you just have to look at the all time disciplinary record of every Premiership player to find the dirtiest piece of shit there is, and guess who it is?
'Dirtiest piece of shit' lol, i always thought you were more intelligent.
Neither Vieira's ability as a player or a man are in question here, there is no question Paddy is of sound mind, however Roy Keane has recently proven he is a racist psychopath who is a disgrace to his country and club.
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Racist?
Oh, soo Vieira never referenced Yugoslavs to gypsies?
I think if you asked people who actually live in Ireland, they are mostly still behind Keane, and I've already told you his reasons for attacking Haaland. Find me an incident where Keane attacked someone for no reason. He doesn't respond well to massive provocation.
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Racist?
Oh, soo Vieira never referenced Yugoslavs to gypsies?
Please find me an article where this was reported to support your statement, ive never heard nor read this, i do know he was fouled for 90 minutes, spat at, called a 'nigger' and a 'tree monkey' by a Yugoslav whilst being jeered by 30,000 + Italians for being a black man though.
I think if you asked people who actually live in Ireland, they are mostly still behind Keane, and I've already told you his reasons for attacking Haaland.
It would'nt suprise me if the Irish still do support Keane, they've supported alot worse in the past, and they really, really love the past.
Find me an incident where Keane attacked someone for no reason. He doesn't respond well to massive provocation.
'Massive provocation'? Ok then, one man telling you too get up after you've just attempted to hack him down is crazy provocation, id try to break his leg too.
Also please define attacked, do you mean where he has put in poor challenges on players or where he has literally headbutted and robbed someone?
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Aight, it's a shame a foul from 3 years ago is getting dragged back up, when Keane's disciplinary record was (relatively) spotless last year when compared with Vieira
I just hope the FA don't do anything stupid and suspend him
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You keep making comparisons between Keane and Vieira, when Vieira isnt the one in question here.
But yeah i agree its a shame this has been dragged up, whats done is done but the FIFA want the FA to make an example of Keane (much like they did Vieira), so that it at least looks like their trying to end/clamp down incidents like this, the FA should leave it imo, but if Haaland wants legal action taken against Keane thats his business.
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I like Viera more than Keane.
Keane is a prik!!!
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I like Viera more than Keane.
Keane is a prik!!!
I don't care what you think nor does he
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sorry didnt realise you where best mates with him
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I'll tell you what, at least Keane does his damage on the field, unlike that lanky piece of shit you worship.
what the fuck are you on about you muppet
never in his career has vieira made a tackle like that of keane, that tackle was a absolute disgrace. keane is a fuckin nutter, a far dirtyer player than vieira has ever been.
Vieiras worse offence was spittin, which i admit was disgusting and he was punished. but he got 6 games for that, and what kenae has done is far far worse than that, and watch, i bet you he will get totally away with it.
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I was talking about Duncan Ferguson as I was speaking to an Everton fan (Bez)
Spitting is a dogs offence.