West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Black_Smoke on July 27, 2003, 09:34:21 PM
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Who yall think is currently the king of Newyork?
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as of right now, either Nas or Jay Z...
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As of right now, 50 runs the show..
Jay-Z have the most power usually though.
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Its The N, The A, To The S-I-R!
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well if ya wanna talk about air play wise, 50 has it on lock. there are 2 rap stations in new york, hot 97 an power 105. if 50 isnt being played on one station he is most likely on the other. right now that song with sean paul is being played everywhere. so is if i cant an the pimp remix. every car i pass, if there playing rap there playing 50. as of right now duke has new york on lock. b4 50 came along nas had the city on lock for the past 2 years but 50 stole the throne. but big will always be the king
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i think your right...big will always be king...but forgetting about big and focusing on people who are living...50 has it on lock as far as media/air play...thats true just about everywhere...but i think credit wise nas will always be the king (or i guess i should say prince) of new york...
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50cent got that shit on lock right now
Jay Z is Still the King though
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FaBolous got tha illess flow frum NY
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FaBolous got tha illess flow frum NY
god damn your an idiot...sorry dude i dont have anything against you...but your taste in music is aweful if you think hes the only good one from the east other than eve and he got the illest flow from NY....you need to expand your horizons dude...damn
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FaBolous got tha illess flow frum NY
oh god i hope your kidding
::impersonates Baby G::
ay yo i gotta say Nelly cuz i saw him wearing a yankeez hat once
^that's how dumb that sounded
anyways back to the subject at hand.....
i got to say 50 is king right now....jay-z has the clout , and nas has the cred.....but 50 got more than a little bit of both right now lol
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FaBolous got tha illess flow frum NY
oh god i hope your kidding
::impersonates Baby G::
ay yo i gotta say Nelly cuz i saw him wearing a yankeez hat once
^that's how dumb that sounded
anyways back to the subject at hand.....
i got to say 50 is king right now....jay-z has the clout , and nas has the cred.....but 50 got more than a little bit of both right now lol
nah cuz 50's really only got mainstream credit...i mean yeah he has underground shit but he doesnt have the lyrical abilities to have even close to the same amount or type of credit as nas...lyrically nas has all the credit...jay has some credit...50 has no credit...as far as beats go they're all about equal even though they all kinda rock 3 different types of beats.
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Nas
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g rap will always be king of ny. 8)
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Who the fuck likes Eve?
50 got it right now.
He owns NY.
The guy that stalks the PR chick from 3LW is right. Every car that has rap on, has 50 on.
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Since BIG is still the King, NaS is the prince...
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Right now... either 50 Cent or Jay-Z.
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I have never found interest in Jay-Z...he must be hiding all his good tracks from me since all of you are on his jock. I have about 250 rap tracks on my computer and not 1 is from Jay-Z.
:)
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u askin who da mayor is?
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Bloomberg
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Nas
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Who the fuck likes Eve?
50 got it right now.
He owns NY.
The guy that stalks the PR chick from 3LW is right. Every car that has rap on, has 50 on.
dude the fact that you're obsessed with 50 is clouding your vision...50 is the king as far as sales and being the media's bitch....50 isnt shit compared to nas or jay-z credit wise...nas & jay have been doin it for years both lyrically and sales wise...compared to those 2 50 aint shit.
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Who the fuck likes Eve?
50 got it right now.
He owns NY.
The guy that stalks the PR chick from 3LW is right. Every car that has rap on, has 50 on.
dude the fact that you're obsessed with 50 is clouding your vision...50 is the king as far as sales and being the media's bitch....50 isnt shit compared to nas or jay-z credit wise...nas & jay have been doin it for years both lyrically and sales wise...compared to those 2 50 aint shit.
^^^Lake Stevens, WA I'm sure you hearing about all the 50 street credit in the forests of Washington ;D
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The real KONY is and always will be Biggie Smalls RIP
But if your gona claim anyone else Its Jay Z aka Young Hova aka Shawn Carter aka whatever Jay Z is todays KONY hands down no question him and Nas are equally dope on the Mic but its no question Jay Z got 100x more clout than Nas has or ever will have...
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Who the fuck likes Eve?
50 got it right now.
He owns NY.
The guy that stalks the PR chick from 3LW is right. Every car that has rap on, has 50 on.
dude the fact that you're obsessed with 50 is clouding your vision...50 is the king as far as sales and being the media's bitch....50 isnt shit compared to nas or jay-z credit wise...nas & jay have been doin it for years both lyrically and sales wise...compared to those 2 50 aint shit.
^^^Lake Stevens, WA I'm sure you hearing about all the 50 street credit in the forests of Washington ;D
lol yup...actually lake stevens is just kind of a side town of everett...and everett is a big city...the part of everett that lake stevens connects to is the shittier part of everett...lots of gangs, projects etc...luckily im out of that area cuz i would hate to live there...but i dont really live around the forested areas...thats over the pass lol.
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You gotta be a Nas-groupie to think he's the King of N.Y.
Other than his solo-albums, what's really popping with him..
Ill Will Records ??
The Bravehearts ??
Lmao.. nothing really.
Jay-Z's empire in 50x times bigger.. Roc-a-fella, Roc-a-wear, movies, shoes, Cognac, etc... he got everything poppin off.. it's impossible to deny his empire.
One can discuss Nas vs. Jay-Z albums into eternity, but when it comes to running shit.. they don't get much bigger than Jigga.
Even Snoop Dogg is a small-time hustla compared to Jay-Z.. as he says himself:
I'm tryina build a Dynasty like Jigga, my nigga
Sixty seven-figure, you dig it ?
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I thought we were jus discussin bout the music...
Jigga has a much bigger empire no doubt...but I don't think that makes him the King of New York...
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50 isnt shit compared to nas or jay-z credit wise...nas & jay have been doin it for years both lyrically and sales wise...compared to those 2 50 aint shit.
You are of course aware that Nas's debut sold 1 million, Jay's debut barely went platinum.... while 50's official debut currently is at 6 million, and rising...
That's more than ANY of Jay-Z and Nas albums, in comparison.
He can get hella big.. and he got the talent for it too.
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You gotta be a Nas-groupie to think he's the King of N.Y.
Other than his solo-albums, what's really popping with him..
Ill Will Records ??
The Bravehearts ??
Lmao.. nothing really.
Jay-Z's empire in 50x times bigger.. Roc-a-fella, Roc-a-wear, movies, shoes, Cognac, etc... he got everything poppin off.. it's impossible to deny his empire.
One can discuss Nas vs. Jay-Z albums into eternity, but when it comes to running shit.. they don't get much bigger than Jigga.
Even Snoop Dogg is a small-time hustla compared to Jay-Z.. as he says himself:
I'm tryina build a Dynasty like Jigga, my nigga
Sixty seven-figure, you dig it ?
based on that i would agree jay-z is bigger...but i think jay-z is more quanity than quality...jay may have more but nas has better quality to his music. and jigga has had about as many movies as nas has. but yeah jigga's roster on the roc is much better than ill will (mop, twista, cam'ron, young gunz, etc...), i really didnt think about that jome...i'm going to say that jay is the king as far as having the most power, nas is the king in having the best quality shit.
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jay-z
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50 isnt shit compared to nas or jay-z credit wise...nas & jay have been doin it for years both lyrically and sales wise...compared to those 2 50 aint shit.
You are of course aware that Nas's debut sold 1 million, Jay's debut barely went platinum.... while 50's official debut currently is at 6 million, and rising...
That's more than ANY of Jay-Z and Nas albums, in comparison.
He can get hella big.. and he got the talent for it too.
thats why i said as far as sales and shit 50 is king...but 50s talent is nothing compared to nas or jay....50 has the talent to be as good as both...but he doesnt use it...so to me 50 wont be king until he can use his full potential and still sell that many albums...besides...debut albums never sell that much unless you're eminem (who sold so much cuz he's white...i hate to say it but its true) or 50 cent who had tremendous credit for being an underground rapper before he even signed to aftermath.
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but i think jay-z is more quanity than quality...jay may have more but nas has better quality to his music.
Eye ear of the beholder, I guess.
And I guess we should have discussed what makes a "King" before discussing who is the King..
* Most powerful ? Connections ?
* Best C.E.O./businessman ?
* Best lyrical ?
* Better Albums ?
* Most connected, deep in the streets.. ?
* The best entertainer.. ?
The answer to each Q is different.. it all depends what the thread-starter means with "King"..
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* Most powerful ? Connections ?
* Best C.E.O./businessman ?
* Best lyrical ?
* Better Albums ?
* Most connected, deep in the streets.. ?
* The best entertainer.. ?
The answer to each Q is different.. it all depends what the thread-starter means with "King"..
* Most powerful/Connections - Jay-Z
* Best C.E.O./businessman - Jay-Z
* Best lyrical - Nas
* Better Albums - Nas
* Most connected, deep in the streets.. - Jay (cuz of the empire)
* The best entertainer.. - 50 Cent
so i guess all around i would say jay-z
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Change
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LOL How can 50 be the king of New York if he dont live and rep it? Thats like saying Bush rules the world.
THe "Kang" of New York is probably Jigga...I dont live there so i cant speak on it with full confidence, but seems like hes the biggest rap name, and has the most power in the city. Of course I think personally that nas is a better rapper. pZ
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There is only one:
The B-I-G-D-A-Double D-Y-K-A-N-E.
King Asiatic Nobody's Equal ;D
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when it comes to king of ny its not about there clothing company an record lable. its about the music an influece an air play. if where goin take everything into account than puffy has had the city on lock down. He has been a big name in the rap game for a longer time than jigga. He has had his own company even b4 jay-z's name was relvelant in the rap game. Sean Jean was out b4 rocawear. His stuff gets mad airplay. does that make him the king of new york???????
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Biggie will always be the KONY
If we're talkin about living, its 50 for now, till Jadakiss drops his next LP
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Ja Rule
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There is only one:
The B-I-G-D-A-Double D-Y-K-A-N-E.
King Asiatic Nobody's Equal ;D
LOL... The Rappin' Soloist gots him
But on the real, it 2 thousand fuckin' 3, it's got to be Nas. Jigga is retiring. I think the King is the most respected rapper on the streets. Not really who's deep in the streets, who gots the most killaz on his side, or even who's most lyrical or gots the most cash. But the one artist in his city that when he speaks, the people listen. Like in the west, it's easy who the King is, Snoop. In L.A., Snoop is always on the radio, his well respected 'cause his been in the game 12 years now, since '91 with 213. People in L.A. see Snoop, and they love him. Most everyone hates Suge, and even middle age people follow Snoop's career. In N.Y., I don't know. I know 50 Cent ain't been out as long as Jigga or Nas though. But his street following is huge with his mix tapes, and street cred, and it's working for him. His 3 albums deep in his career, so his not just a rookie that popped up. But I think Nas was holding the crown after his wars with Jigga, as everyone I knew from N.Y. was on Nas's dick. Jigga was the king, easy, but it seemed that Nas took that from him without wanting it. But Biggie become King of N.Y. with one classic album. I think 50 needs one, and he can claim the throne. But until Nas drops it, it's his. Of course if Nas's next album don't sell, and 50 is still blowing, and we know Jigga is retiring, then I guess we can fully say 50 is the King. But until then, unless there's a battle, I think Nas gots his crown, though he doesn't really want it.
Oh yeah, those that say Biggie is still king, please get a life, and realize we are in a whole new millieum.
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street cred and airplay .. 50
power.. jigga
lyrical.. Nas
who's got the better albums isn't that obvies
I think it's not really obvies right now, we'll have to wait and see
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There is only one:
The B-I-G-D-A-Double D-Y-K-A-N-E.
King Asiatic Nobody's Equal ;D