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Title: Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Eidolon_Ravi on September 04, 2003, 10:33:37 AM
 Human behaviour in any particular situation emerges from a jungle of complex and intricate emotions.. these emotions can be a result of past experiences or may be inherently present in him....

 So what really drives a human..

  is it his past experiences - the cultural, social, polical atmosphere he's brought up in??

  or is it the characteristics he inherited from his forefathers - the nature that he had in his genes when he was born??
 
 
 
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Don Seer on September 04, 2003, 10:45:05 AM
its a combination of both.
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 04, 2003, 11:23:04 AM
Yea....but it's more on da nurture side, no doubt....
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Jimmy Cash on September 04, 2003, 11:45:19 AM
in todays socity i think it's mostly the cultural, social, polical atmosphere he's brought up in, altho instinct plays a small part. we no longer need to rely on instincts because we no long have to surive in nature. we now live in the techno age where learning from past experiences is nessassary.
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Don Seer on September 04, 2003, 12:12:40 PM
Yea....but it's more on da nurture side, no doubt....

people would have you believe that, but theres more animal than you think. societies constructs hide that from you :)
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 04, 2003, 01:14:22 PM
people would have u believe that yur a monkey overseer, but yur still human homeboy :)
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Don Seer on September 04, 2003, 01:52:27 PM
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Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on September 05, 2003, 09:05:25 AM
Yea....but it's more on da nurture side, no doubt....

Short,clear and probably right.
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: infinite59 on September 05, 2003, 09:52:32 AM
its a combination of both.
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: hypnotic on September 05, 2003, 10:15:34 AM
More due to the experience, I see the eveidence within my own family  my sisters werent raised in L.A. but I was and we have very different views on things
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 06, 2003, 11:23:04 AM
Nurture
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 06, 2003, 11:23:23 AM
Er, I should have said, Nurture overcomes Nature.  
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Eidolon_Ravi on September 07, 2003, 08:19:42 AM
Er, I should have said, Nurture overcomes Nature.  

 Have you heard of this gr8 Adventurer whose sun was a bum but whose grandson truned out to be another *world famous researcher cum traveller*???!!!

 Don't u thionk it's sumthing to do with the genes???
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2003, 09:20:50 AM
^ which is nature ;)
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2003, 03:23:03 PM
Have you heard of this gr8 Adventurer whose sun was a bum but whose grandson truned out to be another *world famous researcher cum traveller*???!!!

No.  
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2003, 03:26:27 PM
Nurture overcomes nature.


People have natural tendencies that they are born with.  A simple example is babies tend to cling, and suck, and things like that, because it helps them survive.  There are also psychological tendencies that babies are born with.

However, none of them are so strong that they can't be overcome by Nurture.  Ted Bundy's son, raised in a good environment, would be a good guy, even against whatever tendencies he has.

Also, if someone is born a good person, and raised in hell, they could turn into a pretty bad person, overcoming their positive nature with the negative nurture they have received.  

That's my opinion, out of everything I've seen in my lifetime with people.  
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: Eidolon_Ravi on September 08, 2003, 04:32:13 AM
Nurture overcomes nature.
People have natural tendencies that they are born with.  A simple example is babies tend to cling, and suck, and things like that, because it helps them survive.  There are also psychological tendencies that babies are born with.
However, none of them are so strong that they can't be overcome by Nurture.  Ted Bundy's son, raised in a good environment, would be a good guy, even against whatever tendencies he has.
Also, if someone is born a good person, and raised in hell, they could turn into a pretty bad person, overcoming their positive nature with the negative nurture they have received.  
That's my opinion, out of everything I've seen in my lifetime with people.  

 There's sumthing called instincts..
 
 there's an old saying that *u bathe a street dog and try to domesticate it.. but the moment it gets freed from ur grip.. it'll go straight to the puddle and make itself all dirty*

 Of cousre this is pretty extreme.. but its not altogether false..
 
 In the midst of an extreme emotions, when all ur logical faculties fail to function.. ur actions are solely driven by ur *genes*, the tendencies u have inherited from ur forefathers.. And this is why the terms like....
 
 *royal temper* etc. have ben coined...
 
 
Title: Re:Is it *NATURE* or *NURTURE* ?
Post by: OpTiCaL on September 08, 2003, 04:45:53 AM
Has someone just started doing a sociology course?


There are a lot of relevant theories and texts on this...i studied it myself a few years ago...i believe that of course nature plays a part but for the most its nuture that wins (even when you dont want it to)..see history of violence, abuse,racism,likes / dislikes etc etc...in extreme situations is when the nature of the person can come to light and take over any held ideals etc of the individual...