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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: .:TimeLock:. on October 07, 2003, 11:20:05 PM
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he's a fucking actor how the fuck people took him serious???
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really huh?
there were alot of people who just liked him.. and had no real regard for his views and politics... those people are called idiots... i ended up voting for davis...
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I mean really how stupid are these people voting for him? The guy has no fuckin clue about what he's doing; we're putting the 5th largest economy in the world in the hands of the Terminator. Whenever he's asked about what he will do about ________, he replies with: California needs to do something about _____ and I will lead us. No fuckin shit sherlock, but what are you gonna do? He states the fuckin obvious like "I'm going to fix the environment because it is good to have clean air." No really?!
I mean at least someone who has had some experience, but a fuckin actor who is against immigants when he himself almost got deported LMAO. Republicans... the things they will do for power... bring in a fuckin actor who has no clue about shit, and then use him as a puppet to deliver ideas/initiatives established by other members of the party... I mean it should have been a warning sign when the only debate he took part in was the one where the questions were handed to him beforehand...
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this is bs i tell u >:(
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this is bs i tell u >:(
That's politics for you man. I mean just look at our president... pathetic...
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PATHETIC...
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now i'm glad i live in australia 8)
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politicians have played the celeb card in the past, but never in this way really..
I expect a lot more of this to come after arnie's success.
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U know what some of you guys have simply dismissed Arnold becoz of your misconceptions that his a dumb hollywood actor
When Arnold said as a kid "I want to be a body builder" everyone laughed. When he said he wanted to be a movie star in America, they laught even harder. When he said he was gonna become Dr. Schwartzenegger, everyone laughed harder than ever. Same with this govener run
Now Arnold did it all successfully & is laughing at all who laughed at him!.
Arnold is a great man, & even thru the dirty politics they tried to pull by bringing up things he did in the 70's, or girls mysteriously coming out of no where saying he groped them (Arnold is known as a prankster on movie sets & i'm sure as he said if he did slap a girl on the ass it was a joke, i know many people including my dad, who used to do those kind of pranks & jokes), even one lady saying he tried to rape her (Arnold had groupies dying to sleep with him during the 70's when she alleges this occured, why would he need to rape someone ), he has pulled thru & I believe that he can turn around California
Arnold has an extremely high IQ, so I have no doubt that Arnold knows how to turn around Cali
Congrats Arnold, one of the nicest, greatest men on earth, EVER!
I will say this, I am in Australia, I dont follow the politics of California & I agree that this win is gonna do alot to convince other celebs that they can be in a position of power & win despite there inabilitys. However I think Arnold has the ability. If his reign starts going pear shaped, then complain. Until then sit & wait. You never know as I said above Arnold is extremely intelligent & has defied the odds many times in his life.
& to the people who are saying "they're putting it in the hands of the Terminator" Arnold is not the Terminator. That is a movie character, if you cant get your brain around that then perhaps you're unfit to vote at all
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just coz he has a high IQ it doesnt necessarily mean he can run a state. i havent seen arnie do much so far to prove he can, and im pretty sure that's what everyone else is complaining about too. if i'm missing something significant that he's done tell/show me
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just coz he has a high IQ it doesnt necessarily mean he can run a state. i havent seen arnie do much so far to prove he can, and im pretty sure that's what everyone else is complaining about too. if i'm missing something significant that he's done tell/show me
How can you see him do something to run a state when today is his first day in office pal?>
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exactly.... people have no trust in him coz he has no experience in running shit
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the main thing that set me off by him.. was mainly the fact that he would avoid questions that he didnt seem to have answer for... he wouldnt stay on subject... and no experience in the leadership roll.... he is not a good representive for california... in fact i think he should take his carpet bagging ass back to his own country... since he dislikes immigrates so much....
i voted this election.... and i would have like to see Cruz Bustamonte win... but i voted for davis..because i wasnt going to turn my back on someone who march with ceasar chavez... and fought for farm workers rights.. and all that good stuff.....
in 4 months they just might recall him anyways.. californian seem to be confused by what is a good leader... and what is dumb ass...
i forgot to say this.. i didnt actually vote for a candidate... i just voted no on the recall... and drew a line though all the candidates.... then voted no on the props.
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who would think somebody could win if this was happening during their campaign......
-Only debate that he partcipated in was a debate with the questions handed to you before hand
- Held Town hall meetings (invitation only)
- Used movie quotes to "fire" up the people
- Charges of groping etc etc
- Apologizing for something he is denying...uhh wtf?
- Bitching about special interest money with Davis...but receiving special interest from his "friends"...yea big time corporations are his "friends"
- Promising he will not raise taxes. LOL oh yea thats gonna happen.
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he's a fucking actor how the fuck people took him serious???
Did you vote against him?
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he's a fucking actor how the fuck people took him serious???
Did you vote against him?
i did... and almost voted for gary coleman ;D
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It's simple why people voted for him. Democratic leadership has ran california into the ground. It's hurt them where they hurt the most, in their pocketbook. Minorities don't care as much about this, because many are low wage earners, and don't have to pay taxes at the end of the year because of our graded tax schedule.
Gray Davis made huge, huge mistakes while in office. The democratic california Senate made huge, huge mistakes, and are still in office. Californians were tired of the democratic politics of the last 5 years.
Gray Davis made a decision early on in the campaign; that he didn't want any credible democrats running against him; he felt that if they had no better democrat to vote for, the californian people (who are largely democrat) would vote no on the recall. Bustamante stabbed Davis in the back, and ran. Luckily, Bustamante has also been tainted by the inadequacy of the Davis adminstration, since he's lieutenant governor.
In the end, Californians were tired of Davis's politics... I mean, you guys do realize that he accepted illegal campaign contributions from Indian reservations, correct? Why is their no outrage over this?
With no democrat to elect, Californians simply elected the most moderate, charismatic candidate. Between Arnold, and Tom McClintock, californians voted almost 60% of the vote for REPUBLICANS, in a highly democratic state. The reason? The democratic party has shifted so far to the left, it alienates even DEMOCRATS. Most Democrats are moderates, and do not agree with the extreme liberal thinking of the california senate, of Davis' administration.
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It's simple why people voted for him. Democratic leadership has ran california into the ground. It's hurt them where they hurt the most, in their pocketbook. Minorities don't care as much about this, because many are low wage earners, and don't have to pay taxes at the end of the year because of our graded tax schedule.
Gray Davis made huge, huge mistakes while in office. The democratic california Senate made huge, huge mistakes, and are still in office. Californians were tired of the democratic politics of the last 5 years.
Gray Davis made a decision early on in the campaign; that he didn't want any credible democrats running against him; he felt that if they had no better democrat to vote for, the californian people (who are largely democrat) would vote no on the recall. Bustamante stabbed Davis in the back, and ran. Luckily, Bustamante has also been tainted by the inadequacy of the Davis adminstration, since he's lieutenant governor.
In the end, Californians were tired of Davis's politics... I mean, you guys do realize that he accepted illegal campaign contributions from Indian reservations, correct? Why is their no outrage over this?
With no democrat to elect, Californians simply elected the most moderate, charismatic candidate. Between Arnold, and Tom McClintock, californians voted almost 60% of the vote for REPUBLICANS, in a highly democratic state. The reason? The democratic party has shifted so far to the left, it alienates even DEMOCRATS. Most Democrats are moderates, and do not agree with the extreme liberal thinking of the california senate, of Davis' administration.
if you really knew anything.. you would have known the the problems of california started with pete wilson... and davis had to bare and make due with he had left over....
there was also so many people running in california is was ridiculious... and if they wouldnt have ran... the question is this.. were would there vote have gone? that porn star received... over 9,000 votes... and gary colman was about 13,000...
arnold is an idiot.. and i will be glad when he gets proscuted and bustmante will take over...
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From what ive read, recalls are supposedly only for criminal activities, and not simply being a crap politician. It may be that davis was a crap politician but the decision to recall him could set a worrying precedent for the future. If you can just oust unpopular leaders by launching a recall, then surely this will have awful effects on long term vision of leaders, as they try to simply satisfy there electorate for the time being and not set provisions for the future.
As for Arnie winning it, it has made the election, at least in this part of the world seem like a joke and enhance the idea that americans are stupid. But I think people forget that he's not the stupid dumbass he plays in all his films. While it seems ridiculous that arnold,of all actors, could get elected but i think as trauma said, it's because he's more middle of the road. Maybe the latino guy would have been better but itll be interesting to see how arnold can take on the big guns in politics. Good luck to him (at least he's married to a chriver, who will no doubt keep him in check)
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who would think somebody could win if this was happening during their campaign......
-Only debate that he partcipated in was a debate with the questions handed to you before hand
- Held Town hall meetings (invitation only)
- Used movie quotes to "fire" up the people
- Charges of groping etc etc
- Apologizing for something he is denying...uhh wtf?
- Bitching about special interest money with Davis...but receiving special interest from his "friends"...yea big time corporations are his "friends"
- Promising he will not raise taxes. LOL oh yea thats gonna happen.
Are stupid or just cant read
He came out & apologized because SOME of those claims were true. HOWEVER as i already said EARLIER, Arnold is a prankster esspecially on long tiring sets, there may have been a few times he did things he thought were jokes & didnt realize it offended them, & he apologized. My dad, & many other men for that matter, I know have done little jokes or pranks that involved slapping somes ass or poking there tits
& you've gotta consider the validity of those claims. Here is a man, who has been famous for 3 decades, why havent these reports come out before, they only came out when he went for govenor. Theres alot of people who will do dirty things for money. I mean why would Arnie threaten to rape a girl during the 70's when in fact he was known to have thousands of groupies who he would sleep with.
Arnold is a great man, & even if you dont think he cant be a govenor successfully, at least respect him a great person
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the main thing that set me off by him.. was mainly the fact that he would avoid questions that he didnt seem to have answer for... he wouldnt stay on subject... and no experience in the leadership roll.... he is not a good representive for california... in fact i think he should take his carpet bagging ass back to his own country... since he dislikes immigrates so much....
i voted this election.... and i would have like to see Cruz Bustamonte win... but i voted for davis..because i wasnt going to turn my back on someone who march with ceasar chavez... and fought for farm workers rights.. and all that good stuff.....
in 4 months they just might recall him anyways.. californian seem to be confused by what is a good leader... and what is dumb ass...
i forgot to say this.. i didnt actually vote for a candidate... i just voted no on the recall... and drew a line though all the candidates.... then voted no on the props.
The only dumbass here is you, the person who cant read, the person who can call a doctor, a man with a extremely high IQ, a dumbass.
Your language & punctuation has written your IQ all over your face
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the main thing that set me off by him.. was mainly the fact that he would avoid questions that he didnt seem to have answer for... he wouldnt stay on subject... and no experience in the leadership roll.... he is not a good representive for california... in fact i think he should take his carpet bagging ass back to his own country... since he dislikes immigrates so much....
i voted this election.... and i would have like to see Cruz Bustamonte win... but i voted for davis..because i wasnt going to turn my back on someone who march with ceasar chavez... and fought for farm workers rights.. and all that good stuff.....
in 4 months they just might recall him anyways.. californian seem to be confused by what is a good leader... and what is dumb ass...
i forgot to say this.. i didnt actually vote for a candidate... i just voted no on the recall... and drew a line though all the candidates.... then voted no on the props.
The only dumbass here is you, the person who cant read, the person who can call a doctor, a man with a extremely high IQ, a dumbass.
Your language & punctuation has written your IQ all over your face
get over yourself ::)
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the main thing that set me off by him.. was mainly the fact that he would avoid questions that he didnt seem to have answer for... he wouldnt stay on subject... and no experience in the leadership roll.... he is not a good representive for california... in fact i think he should take his carpet bagging ass back to his own country... since he dislikes immigrates so much....
i voted this election.... and i would have like to see Cruz Bustamonte win... but i voted for davis..because i wasnt going to turn my back on someone who march with ceasar chavez... and fought for farm workers rights.. and all that good stuff.....
in 4 months they just might recall him anyways.. californian seem to be confused by what is a good leader... and what is dumb ass...
i forgot to say this.. i didnt actually vote for a candidate... i just voted no on the recall... and drew a line though all the candidates.... then voted no on the props.
The only dumbass here is you, the person who cant read, the person who can call a doctor, a man with a extremely high IQ, a dumbass.
Your language & punctuation has written your IQ all over your face
get over yourself ::)
wow, what a comeback. I guess you would make a great politician yourself, i mean look how well you explained your argument right there. So informative my brain is going overload
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he's a fucking actor how the fuck people took him serious???
By the way, for those who are (like this fuckstick above) wondering how he can be a govenor while being a movie star.
The fact is, he is an ex-actor now. He said he wont have much time free so movies are on hold while he is a the gov. for the next 3 years. However he may have smaller roles that fit into his schedule, like for T4 (he isnt needed its a future war movie)
King Conan will be the movie he does after this 3 year stint. He will be just the right age as in the story Conan is around 60 & he is basically passing the torch to his son, who is rumored to be either HHH or The Rock at this moment (HHH is a better choice in my opinion)
Besides, an actor & wrestler named Jesse Ventura (who coincidentally was in Predator & The Running Man, 2 Arnie classics) was Minnesota's governor & from what i heard he did a fine job.
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i'm glad that arnold won, i voted for him, and i'm proud that i'm 1 of the people who are registered democrats that voted against gray davis
and no bustamante would be more of a joke than schwartzanegger.....how the fuck are you going to be against the recall , yet vote for Bustamante , who is part of the problem
and no California's problems didn't start with Pete Wilson that is STUPID as fuck to say. Pete wilson was WELL out of office (for a few years )when california problems started. Davis pussy footed around with the energy crisis, and his whole administration after his first 2-3 years started fucking up financially. Special interest spending anyone? I will admit Davis was a good governor for partially his first term. but he was no better than wilson.....go read on modern california history and you'll know what i'm talking about.
now back to arnold......no shit he has no experience in politics.......but oh wait who are his relatives-in-laws....oh shit~! the KENNEDYS.... :o , also Arnold is a billionaire business man.......he has no need to profit off this and he's great with finances .....go look it up. His inexperience is good i think.....we don't had that and look where it got us........so it was either vote in the problems (davis bustamante) again, or vote in someone who wants honestly wants to help the state. I say let Arnold prove himslf first before we start jumping on him like Davis.
and if this makes us look "dumb" to the rest of the world.......so fucking what! 22% of Britain thinks the Mona Lisa was done by Vincent Van Gogh.....again let the man prove himself before you hawk on him......who knows he might fuck us up , but look at his track record ......dude does better than well with most of the things he's accomplished
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he's a fucking actor how the fuck people took him serious???
California has given up on career politicians.
That is why Arnold won...any prominet actor would have won if Arnold wasn't running.
You know if Jay Leno wanted to be Governor and Arnold wasn't running he could have won. ;) Gray Davis/Bustamante buried their own graves with the idea of giving California drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. lol they thought ese cared about people in Mexico ;D
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but i voted for davis..because i wasnt going to turn my back on someone who march with ceasar chavez... and fought for farm workers rights.. and all that good stuff.....
....and sent someone to the hospital, verbally assaulted children outside of the governor's mansion, sexually and physically assaulted woman working with him, has an explosive irrational temper, and not to mention called imigrants who wanted driver's licenses (the first time, when he vetos the bill) quasi racial names.....oh bet you didn't know that huh
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i'm glad that arnold won, i voted for him, and i'm proud that i'm 1 of the people who are registered democrats that voted against gray davis
and no bustamante would be more of a joke than schwartzanegger.....how the fuck are you going to be against the recall , yet vote for Bustamante , who is part of the problem
and no California's problems didn't start with Pete Wilson that is STUPID as fuck to say. Pete wilson was WELL out of office (for a few years )when california problems started. Davis pussy footed around with the energy crisis, and his whole administration after his first 2-3 years started fucking up financially. Special interest spending anyone? I will admit Davis was a good governor for partially his first term. but he was no better than wilson.....go read on modern california history and you'll know what i'm talking about.
now back to arnold......no shit he has no experience in politics.......but oh wait who are his relatives-in-laws....oh shit~! the KENNEDYS.... :o , also Arnold is a billionaire business man.......he has no need to profit off this and he's great with finances .....go look it up. His inexperience is good i think.....we don't had that and look where it got us........so it was either vote in the problems (davis bustamante) again, or vote in someone who wants honestly wants to help the state. I say let Arnold prove himslf first before we start jumping on him like Davis.
and if this makes us look "dumb" to the rest of the world.......so fucking what! 22% of Britain thinks the Mona Lisa was done by Vincent Van Gogh.....again let the man prove himself before you hawk on him......who knows he might fuck us up , but look at his track record ......dude does better than well with most of the things he's accomplished
but i voted for davis..because i wasnt going to turn my back on someone who march with ceasar chavez... and fought for farm workers rights.. and all that good stuff.....
....and sent someone to the hospital, verbally assaulted children outside of the governor's mansion, sexually and physically assaulted woman working with him, has an explosive irrational temper, and not to mention called imigrants who wanted driver's licenses (the first time, when he vetos the bill) quasi racial names.....oh bet you didn't know that huh
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Me & you have had a disagreeable past, however I will side with u on this one. Everything you said is true. i dont think USA is dumb & anyone who thinks Arnie is a joke is just ignorant & cant see past the movies & see the other goals he has accomplished thru out his life in many different careers
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I think people are misjudging what this victory means; like I said, he didn't win because he's an actor. That certainly helped, but McClintock, a republican, even got 13 percent of the vote. Bustamante only got 30 percent; without Arnold, McClintock probably STILL would have won.
Arnold didn't run on any liberal beliefs; this election was about fiscal issues, and california was simply looking for a fiscal conservative, they're tired of Senate members and governors that don't know how to stop spending. Also, say all you want about Wilson, but when he left office, California had a surplus budget, which Davis promptly spent.
Simply put: California felt it was time to elect a republican.
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Simply put: California felt it was time to elect a republican.
lol...you idiot.
Goerge W. Bush got his way...thanks to his buddies at Enron.
Thanks W for turning your back on California so a Republican can be elected.
Arnold is not a McClintock republican...so its all good but California can carless about parties.
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^^ Kid, please, you're out of your league.
They could care less about parties? then why are 48 percent of californians registered democrats?
Shut the fuck up when big people are talking.
Arnold IS a McClintock republican. This election wasn't about abortion, dumbass. It was about fiscal conservatism, which Arnold embraces.
I realize we're talking over your head, Mr. "he's a democrat & a republican so he's o.k.!!!", but try and keep up.
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They could care less about parties? then why are 48 percent of californians registered democrats?
Shut the fuck up when big people are talking.
Arnold IS a McClintock republican. This election wasn't about abortion, dumbass. It was about fiscal conservatism, which Arnold embraces.
I realize we're talking over your head, Mr. "he's a democrat & a republican so he's o.k.!!!", but try and keep up.
Arnold is a conservative when it comes to spending/budget but on most social issues he is a democrat and his wife is related to the Kennedy's biaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacth.
She's the daughter of Eunice Kennedy and Sargent Shriver, the niece of president John Kennedy and the granddaughter of Joseph Kennedy.
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Arnold's Position on Issues
Now that Arnold is in the race for California Governor, it's only natural that people want to know his positions on issues. The Washington Post says they are a mystery--we're not so sure. He's pro-choice. He's described as becoming less of a traditional Republican since marrying Maria Shriver. He said the GOP drive to impeach Clinton made him ashamed to be a Republican.
Last year, he led the campaign in California for Proposition 49, which calls for about a half-billion dollars in state spending on after-school programs.
....After riots here a decade ago, Schwarzenegger began pumping millions of dollars into a nonprofit organization called Inner-City Games, which offers recreational opportunities to disadvantaged youth. With his financial backing, the program has spread to 15 cities across the country.
Schwarzenegger also has been a major financial contributor to the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a prominent Jewish institution in Los Angeles.
Arnold is sounding pretty good to us. This isn't an endorsement, and we still oppose the recall. But we do like what we see so far.
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He came out & apologized because SOME of those claims were true.
did you see his interview with Dan Rather? He said none of them were true but still apoligized?
If he does a good job for the state...then props to him.
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He came out & apologized because SOME of those claims were true.
did you see his interview with Dan Rather? He said none of them were true but still apoligized?
If he does a good job for the state...then props to him.
he denied the woman the LA times went after(none/most of those woman didn't come out they were contacted by the times and put on the burner until critical political days {like the thursday before the election ,which is the most crucial day to spread junk in political slander hmmmmmm} but said he might have done things like that in the past and apologized for those other instances.
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Yah its pretty ridiculous...and makes us look like a joke. Not to mention....great, we have a fuckin republican in office. No matter HOW bad of a job he does, it wont matter...cus Califnornias economy is only gonna go up regardless, no matter WHO is there...even if Davis stuck around. The whole recall thing was fuckin stupid anyways. So this means, from now on...anytime we elect someone, we can just get a lil petition together...and say we dont want them there anymore. lol. He's not even a real governor, all he's going to be is a puppet. He's a famous figure who got elected cus of his name, NOT his policies. People were more voting against Davis, then FOR Arnold...and like i said, his name is gonna carry weight because of popularity. All i know is...watch out poor people...watch out native americans...and watch out mexicans....tha fuckin Terminators in office...
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lol...watch out minorities/immigrants in general...this dood is gonna follow commands...he seriously dunno much about this job tha people gave him...I smell another recall around tha corner in californiaaa...pathetic...
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For the FUCKIN last time the TERMINATOR is not in office. That is a fuckin character if u cant get past that maybe u should question whether ure fit to even comment let alone vote!
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For the FUCKIN last time the TERMINATOR is not in office. That is a fuckin character if u cant get past that maybe u should question whether ure fit to even comment let alone vote!
What?! The terminator is in office????!!!.... shit... we're doomed....
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Yah its pretty ridiculous...and makes us look like a joke. Not to mention....great, we have a fuckin republican in office. No matter HOW bad of a job he does, it wont matter...cus Califnornias economy is only gonna go up regardless, no matter WHO is there...even if Davis stuck around. The whole recall thing was fuckin stupid anyways. So this means, from now on...anytime we elect someone, we can just get a lil petition together...and say we dont want them there anymore. lol. He's not even a real governor, all he's going to be is a puppet. He's a famous figure who got elected cus of his name, NOT his policies. People were more voting against Davis, then FOR Arnold...and like i said, his name is gonna carry weight because of popularity. All i know is...watch out poor people...watch out native americans...and watch out mexicans....tha fuckin Terminators in office...
actually a republican is going to be a GOOD thing to have in office.....right now california needs someone with a big business mindset (which means creating more jobs which stimulates the economy) becuase a lot of businesses are starting to pack up and leave califonia becuase of the shit the democrats did . i ain't bashing democrats , after all that's what i'm registered as. Even hollywood is starting to venture outward becuase of shit they pulled by taxing and shit. so we need someone who is going to be pro business (and someone who has experience [dude has a billion dollar empire and earns more revenue than a lot of people with an MBa degree]) to create more jobs in this failing economy and cut government but at the same time put the money where it's needed like into schools and public stuff......not into prisons catering to the correctional officers' union and pandering to inmates giving them free cable and shit like that. Arnold (puppet or not ) stands for these things that we need as a state. also we need a leader in office who's against the little war of republicans and democrats someone who is willing to work to acheive the goals california so desperately needs to acheive right now. and about the recall .....this has been around WELL over 100 years. this all started when the rail road business hand picked and groomed corrupted money pandering leaders like Davis ....the progressive movement that abolished the control of the rail road passed bills giving the people more rights as to who they want in office.....the recall was very essential. The progressives were smart dudes....they made it so some one would have to be a huge ASS to actually get recalled from office. So swartzanegger would have to fuck up worse than Davis/hoover/clinton to ever go through a successful recall. That's why this recall was so historical...it's hard to get someone out of office. i'll put it like this , it's A WHOLE HELLA LOT EASIER to pass a law forcing the whole state to where raider jerseys every day by signing a petition than to recall a california official. Poor people arn't going to have watch out.....that's stupid. if anything poor people, especially unemployed ones are going to benefit with lighter tax laws and more job opportunities now that we have a big business/small government man in power. Also meixcans won't have to worry either for the same reasons......the only one's who'll have to worry are the sorry asses who come here illegally. the only people who'll have to watch out are the rich corrupted powerful panderers in the indian gaming casinos.......boo hoo. These people are actually hurting their tribes more.....and our state's economy for that matter by not paying "theyr Fayer shayer" this casinos rake in billions and billions of dollars in revenue. our ferderal money.....and don't contribute a dime if they don't feel like it to helping reservations or the state they live in like other gaming casinos int he country . i feel no ounce of sympathy for THESE indians.
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Have the Native not suffered enough. Let them do what they will, they are a "SALVERN NATION", seperate, independent, and now that they finally found a way to support themselves, let up on them. Also, California had 16 straight years of Republican govenors, from 1982-1998, and all that got us was the worst education after having what many called the best public education in the world, (that is true, I read the articles and did the studies) and a balanced budget. When Pete Wilson left, the budget was balanced, but California was very high in unemployment, and last in education. When the economy struggled, Pete Wilson blamed illegal aliens for our troubles, and saved his ass by makig prop.187. Later Latinos would vote in high numbers against the Republicans beause of prop.187. When Grey Davis took over, he spent the money, and was doing well for a while. Cali had enough money, so he cut some taxes, he shouldn't have because our economy wasn't strong enough to support his spending and tax cuts at the same time. Remember, he had a 60% approval rate for a while. Got reelected, and then the energy crisis hit. He spent money he didn't have trying to get energy. Instead of staying calm, and trying to keep California in order, he paniced and spend money we did not have. That's why he got recalled, he was not a good leader. Good mind, horrible leader. Now I didn't truly mond on Arnold being govenor, until I found out he hired Pete Wilson as one of his advisors... that racist bastard. Fuck a Pete Wilson, why would he just stay out of my states politics. I feel like this is a nightmare. I don't mind Arnold, I support Bustemante, but I can live with Arnold, but Pete Wilson again. FUCK THAT!!!!!!!
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There NEVER should have been a recall! Californians look stupid! dont give that clown an important economy like Cali's, It hurts the Whole Country. Real TALK from someone not from Cali.
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Have the Native not suffered enough. Let them do what they will, they are a "SALVERN NATION", seperate, independent, and now that they finally found a way to support themselves, let up on them.
LMAO that is so ignorant first off indians are NOT a SOVEREIGN nation. they use US currency and obide by US constituted laws. just about every other gaming casino pays the government taxes or some sort of funding to run it's casinos.......casinos ran in california don't. why? because we passed a law that was suppose to have that tax money be used to "help support" indian reservations.........which turned out to be pure bull shit. most indian casinos don't use that money to help their fellow indian. most of that money is spent on lining their wallets and buying extravagant homes cars and political figures who don't want to bother with their revenue. the only indians who are suffering are the REAL ass indians who are suffering because of greedy indian casinos. so get your facts straight here.
and your whole "republicans ruined our education" rhetoric is pure bull shit.......that's why california is in shambles becuase of this mind set of segrated politics (dems vs reps) after all wasn't it davis who cut schools and gave money to the prisons to avoid a clash with one of the most powerful unions in the state? Arnold has made it almost a life mission to help schools for most of the 90's and a better part of the 80's and this decade. So IMO i HE's the candidate most likely to help our school systems.....bustamante HA what a whitewashed crook.
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Have you ever been to a revservation. I know I have. I been there many times. Let's just say business in a reservation in the past 12 years, since Casinos, has picked up greatly. When tribes first put in casinos, yeah the tribe does worst because of what it takes to run a casinos, but then later the tribes do really, really well. I heard of people complain because they make too much money just being a member of the tribe. And also, each tribe is to be dealt with as a seperate nation, with there own constitution, there own law inforcement, there own fire protection, their own education system and everything else. They are more like many little U.S. territories like Puerto Rico than being part of the actual United States. But then again, Big Jake is know all of everything, so what he says must be right, because I'm not Native American, and I've never been to the reservation. Oh well ::)
Also, 16 years of Republican government, I think that's more than enough time to have helped the state. The Republicans failed, and only after 4 years we give up on the Democrats, fuck it, California is full of hippies, lets just go Green :-\ Oh well, what happens happens. As I said, I really don't care about Arnold as govenor, I accepted this along time ago. But I do care about Pete Wilson's ass being involved. The worst govenor in California history. I said it before, and I'll say it again... FUCK PETE WILSON!!!!!
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Yah its pretty ridiculous...and makes us look like a joke. Not to mention....great, we have a fuckin republican in office. No matter HOW bad of a job he does, it wont matter...cus Califnornias economy is only gonna go up regardless, no matter WHO is there...even if Davis stuck around. The whole recall thing was fuckin stupid anyways. So this means, from now on...anytime we elect someone, we can just get a lil petition together...and say we dont want them there anymore. lol. He's not even a real governor, all he's going to be is a puppet. He's a famous figure who got elected cus of his name, NOT his policies. People were more voting against Davis, then FOR Arnold...and like i said, his name is gonna carry weight because of popularity. All i know is...watch out poor people...watch out native americans...and watch out mexicans....tha fuckin Terminators in office...
actually a republican is going to be a GOOD thing to have in office.....right now california needs someone with a big business mindset (which means creating more jobs which stimulates the economy) becuase a lot of businesses are starting to pack up and leave califonia becuase of the shit the democrats did . i ain't bashing democrats , after all that's what i'm registered as. Even hollywood is starting to venture outward becuase of shit they pulled by taxing and shit. so we need someone who is going to be pro business (and someone who has experience [dude has a billion dollar empire and earns more revenue than a lot of people with an MBa degree]) to create more jobs in this failing economy and cut government but at the same time put the money where it's needed like into schools and public stuff......not into prisons catering to the correctional officers' union and pandering to inmates giving them free cable and shit like that. Arnold (puppet or not ) stands for these things that we need as a state. also we need a leader in office who's against the little war of republicans and democrats someone who is willing to work to acheive the goals california so desperately needs to acheive right now. and about the recall .....this has been around WELL over 100 years. this all started when the rail road business hand picked and groomed corrupted money pandering leaders like Davis ....the progressive movement that abolished the control of the rail road passed bills giving the people more rights as to who they want in office.....the recall was very essential. The progressives were smart dudes....they made it so some one would have to be a huge ASS to actually get recalled from office. So swartzanegger would have to fuck up worse than Davis/hoover/clinton to ever go through a successful recall. That's why this recall was so historical...it's hard to get someone out of office. i'll put it like this , it's A WHOLE HELLA LOT EASIER to pass a law forcing the whole state to where raider jerseys every day by signing a petition than to recall a california official. Poor people arn't going to have watch out.....that's stupid. if anything poor people, especially unemployed ones are going to benefit with lighter tax laws and more job opportunities now that we have a big business/small government man in power. Also meixcans won't have to worry either for the same reasons......the only one's who'll have to worry are the sorry asses who come here illegally. the only people who'll have to watch out are the rich corrupted powerful panderers in the indian gaming casinos.......boo hoo. These people are actually hurting their tribes more.....and our state's economy for that matter by not paying "theyr Fayer shayer" this casinos rake in billions and billions of dollars in revenue. our ferderal money.....and don't contribute a dime if they don't feel like it to helping reservations or the state they live in like other gaming casinos int he country . i feel no ounce of sympathy for THESE indians.
i still dont see him as the "solution" to anything. Id be surprised if he actually puts alot of money into schools. Im pretty sure he's gonna place a big focus on immigration, or at least...make people think he will, and manage to convince people that "cracking down on illegal immigrants" will help the economy so much lol. All im saying is, he's basically stepping into a perfect situation for any politician. If he creates ONE more job, then was available before he was in office...Republicans everywhere will say what a success he was lol. Its kind of silly, cus every Republican is convinced that our economy is bad...BECAUSE of Democrats. If Davis was a Republican...our economy would have still been fucked right now. So to me, it had nothing to do with it. As for the recall, whats crazy about it...is that Californians voted Davis into office. And now, because SOME are not happy with their choice...we should be able to just take it back? lol. The country has slowly built itself a reputation of not liking to take responsibilty for our choices.......the rep is strong lol. If anything, the ONLY people that SHOULD be able to vote on a recall...are those who voted FOR Davis the first time. But oh well...fukit. I dont really want the Terminator (and YES, whoever tha guy was wit tha stick up his ass...he's JUST tha fuckin Terminator lol) in office...but whats done is done, and he's there...so hopefully he actually does a good job. But i still say...watch out mexicans, watch out native americans...and definetely...watch out poor people...lol
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I dont really want the Terminator (and YES, whoever tha guy was wit tha stick up his ass...he's JUST tha fuckin Terminator lol) in office
The fact you actually think Arnold Schwartznegger is anything like most of the characters he plays just shows how feeble minded you are. The only person who has a stick up his ass is yourself, & it has seemed to have poked your brain out to
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I dont really want the Terminator (and YES, whoever tha guy was wit tha stick up his ass...he's JUST tha fuckin Terminator lol) in office
The fact you actually think Arnold Schwartznegger is anything like most of the characters he plays just shows how feeble minded you are. The only person who has a stick up his ass is yourself, & it has seemed to have poked your brain out to
lol right....
i call him the Terminator (probably for the same reason most do) because i dont take him seriously. He's a joke. The only thing funnier, is that u havent been able to figure that out. LOL Who has a feeble mind?? You keep saying that everyone calling him the Terminator...cant seperate his characters from him, maybe you should try to read past the words a bit so u can understand why we say what we say. lol If u cant, then thats yur problem.
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Just a few questions:
If you are complaining:
1.) Are you from California?
2.) Did you vote?
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Have you ever been to a revservation. I know I have. I been there many times. Let's just say business in a reservation in the past 12 years, since Casinos, has picked up greatly. When tribes first put in casinos, yeah the tribe does worst because of what it takes to run a casinos, but then later the tribes do really, really well. I heard of people complain because they make too much money just being a member of the tribe. And also, each tribe is to be dealt with as a seperate nation, with there own constitution, there own law inforcement, there own fire protection, their own education system and everything else. They are more like many little U.S. territories like Puerto Rico than being part of the actual United States. But then again, Big Jake is know all of everything, so what he says must be right, because I'm not Native American, and I've never been to the reservation. Oh well ::)
Also, 16 years of Republican government, I think that's more than enough time to have helped the state. The Republicans failed, and only after 4 years we give up on the Democrats, fuck it, California is full of hippies, lets just go Green :-\ Oh well, what happens happens. As I said, I really don't care about Arnold as govenor, I accepted this along time ago. But I do care about Pete Wilson's ass being involved. The worst govenor in California history. I said it before, and I'll say it again... FUCK PETE WILSON!!!!!
lol you're so full of shit it's funny
actually i have been to reservations and know people who live in them .......many indian casinos are bogus. not all but many
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Just a few questions:
If you are complaining:
1.) Are you from California?
2.) Did you vote?
1. Yes
2. I couldn't, I tried getting a absentie
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So if you didn't vote, how do you have any say in the politics of your state?
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Just a few questions:
If you are complaining:
1.) Are you from California?
2.) Did you vote?
1. Yes
2. I couldn't, I tried getting a absentie
you do relize your absentee ballot came with your sample ballot ::)
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Just a few questions:
If you are complaining:
1.) Are you from California?
2.) Did you vote?
1. Yes
2. I couldn't, I tried getting a absentie
you do relize your absentee ballot came with your sample ballot ::)
I'm in Minnesota muthaphukka... kinda hard to have that shit mailed here.
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So if you didn't vote, how do you have any say in the politics of your state?
how could someone be allowed to vote...to recall a governor, that they didnt vote for in the first place? Thats what i dont get. IMO, anyone who voted AGAINST Davis before...shouldnt have a say in the recall. Jus my opinion, if u think it isnt valid...then neither is yours.
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I dont really want the Terminator (and YES, whoever tha guy was wit tha stick up his ass...he's JUST tha fuckin Terminator lol) in office
The fact you actually think Arnold Schwartznegger is anything like most of the characters he plays just shows how feeble minded you are. The only person who has a stick up his ass is yourself, & it has seemed to have poked your brain out to
lol right....
i call him the Terminator (probably for the same reason most do) because i dont take him seriously. He's a joke. The only thing funnier, is that u havent been able to figure that out. LOL Who has a feeble mind?? You keep saying that everyone calling him the Terminator...cant seperate his characters from him, maybe you should try to read past the words a bit so u can understand why we say what we say. lol If u cant, then thats yur problem.
The Terminator's a joke. Geez maybe the only Terminator film u saw was part 3.
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I dont really want the Terminator (and YES, whoever tha guy was wit tha stick up his ass...he's JUST tha fuckin Terminator lol) in office
The fact you actually think Arnold Schwartznegger is anything like most of the characters he plays just shows how feeble minded you are. The only person who has a stick up his ass is yourself, & it has seemed to have poked your brain out to
lol right....
i call him the Terminator (probably for the same reason most do) because i dont take him seriously. He's a joke. The only thing funnier, is that u havent been able to figure that out. LOL Who has a feeble mind?? You keep saying that everyone calling him the Terminator...cant seperate his characters from him, maybe you should try to read past the words a bit so u can understand why we say what we say. lol If u cant, then thats yur problem.
The Terminator's a joke. Geez maybe the only Terminator film u saw was part 3.
a joke as far as governor...not as a movie...
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Just a few questions:
If you are complaining:
1.) Are you from California?
2.) Did you vote?
1. Yes
2. I couldn't, I tried getting a absentie
you do relize your absentee ballot came with your sample ballot ::)
I'm in Minnesota muthaphukka... kinda hard to have that shit mailed here.
well obviously you didn't try hard enough cuz my uncle is in utah and got his absentee ballot a whole month and half before the election....all you had to be was registered and notify the sec. of state of california .....not that hard if you're living in the contenental united states.
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So if you didn't vote, how do you have any say in the politics of your state?
how could someone be allowed to vote...to recall a governor, that they didnt vote for in the first place? Thats what i dont get. IMO, anyone who voted AGAINST Davis before...shouldnt have a say in the recall. Jus my opinion, if u think it isnt valid...then neither is yours.
you got to know the history of the law (you should've learned this in highschool, or you will once you get into junior year)
the progressives set up many laws giving the people the power to put their state officials in check during the time of the southern pacific rail road which hand picked all of our governors and stuff. So these laws gave power to the people to get rid of governor who pander to huge companies and special business interests. If this was on a national level we'd probably be seeing petitions trying to recall the president and vice president.
so in essense if you voted for the dude or didn't ......by law you are still justified to recall the dude if you don't see him fit as governor
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Just a few questions:
If you are complaining:
1.) Are you from California?
2.) Did you vote?
1. Yes
2. I couldn't, I tried getting a absentie
you do relize your absentee ballot came with your sample ballot ::)
I'm in Minnesota muthaphukka... kinda hard to have that shit mailed here.
well obviously you didn't try hard enough cuz my uncle is in utah and got his absentee ballot a whole month and half before the election....all you had to be was registered and notify the sec. of state of california .....not that hard if you're living in the contenental united states.
I know... but I switch so often between voting in which ever state... i didn't know that I wasn't registered in Cali until I ask my dad for my absentee and he said it never came. Which was a couple of weeks before the election. Besides, in 2006, I plan on trying to help with Cruz Bustemente's campain.
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So if you didn't vote, how do you have any say in the politics of your state?
how could someone be allowed to vote...to recall a governor, that they didnt vote for in the first place? Thats what i dont get. IMO, anyone who voted AGAINST Davis before...shouldnt have a say in the recall. Jus my opinion, if u think it isnt valid...then neither is yours.
you got to know the history of the law (you should've learned this in highschool, or you will once you get into junior year)
the progressives set up many laws giving the people the power to put their state officials in check during the time of the southern pacific rail road which hand picked all of our governors and stuff. So these laws gave power to the people to get rid of governor who pander to huge companies and special business interests. If this was on a national level we'd probably be seeing petitions trying to recall the president and vice president.
so in essense if you voted for the dude or didn't ......by law you are still justified to recall the dude if you don't see him fit as governor
naw, i understand tha law fine....but i jus dont agree with it completely.