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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Woodrow on October 17, 2003, 12:33:30 PM
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Malaysia Apologizes for "misunderstanding" Over Statement That Jews Run World
By Patrick McDowell
Associated Press Writer
PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia (AP) - Malaysia, faced with angry criticism from the United States and Europe, apologized Friday for "any misunderstanding" over assertions by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad that Jews rule the world.
Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar struggled to contain the damage wrought by his blunt-spoken boss, who told a 57-nation Islamic summit Thursday that "Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them."
The speech drew immediate criticism from Israel and other countries and raised fears that it could fan violence against Jews. But it got a standing ovation from the kings, presidents, sheiks and emirs - including key U.S. allies - gathered in Malaysia's capital, Putrajaya.
Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, said Mahathir has used anti-Israel statements in the past to prove he's tough on the West. But, he said, Thursday's speech was still worrisome.
"What is profoundly shocking and worrying is the venue of the speech, the audience and coming in the time we're living in," Cooper said in Jerusalem. "Mahathir's speech today is an absolute invitation for more hate crimes and terrorism against Jews. That's serious."
Mahathir had used allegations of Jewish dominance to buttress his chief point, that Muslims needed to embrace modern knowledge and technology and overcome divisions over religious dogma that have left them weakened on the world stage.
But the statements about Jews stood out, and condemnations were swift and unambiguous from the United States, the European Union, Australia and Germany, which summoned Malaysia's charge d'affaires in Berlin to protest the comments as "totally unacceptable."
"I'm sorry that they have misunderstood the whole thing," Syed Hamid, the foreign minister, told The Associated Press. "The intention is not to create controversy. His intention is to show that if you ponder and sit down to think, you can be very powerful."
Mahathir declined to speak to reporters who approached him Friday, telling them to wait until an evening news conference.
Syed Hamid said the world's Muslims were in a "quagmire" and feeling "sidelined or marginalized," reflecting a widespread perception in the Islamic world as the war on terrorism has evolved into U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and Israel has increased repression of the Palestinians.
"Please forget about anti-Semitism," Syed Hamid told reporters.
He added that Mahathir's "message is to stop violence, which is not the answer for us to succeed in our struggle. People may not be very happy but this is the reality: the Jews are very powerful."
Syed Hamid noted that Malaysia has a state policy of religious harmony, in which the ethnic Malay Muslim majority lives alongside large non-Muslim Chinese and Indian minorities. The country is one of Southeast Asia's most modern and wealthy, and has jailed terror suspects without qualms.
"How can we be anti-Jew? It is far from the truth," Syed Hamid said.
Mahathir, a respected leader in the developing world with a long history of making articulate, provocative comments, is retiring Oct. 31 after 22 years in power. He told the Islamic leaders that Muslims had achieved "nothing" in more than 50 years of fighting Israel.
"They survived 2,000 years of pogroms not by hitting back but by thinking," Mahathir said of the Jews. "They invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong, so that they can enjoy equal rights with others."
Mahathir said the world's "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews," but suggested the use of political and economic tactics, not violence, to achieve a "final victory."
In their reactions to the speech, most of the leaders at the summit focused on the aspects that Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher called "a good road map" toward Muslim empowerment.
Asked by the AP whether he thought the speech was anti-Semitic, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said: "I don't think so."
"Dr. Mahathir spoke of the inhibitions within the Islamic world and that those inhibitions must go away, and I entirely agree with that," Karzai said.
But State Department spokesman Adam Ereli called Mahathir's remarks offensive and inflammatory. "We view them with the contempt and derision they deserve," he said.
The leaders of the European Union, meeting in Brussels, Belgium, planned to adopt a statement saying the 15-nation bloc "deeply deplores" Mahathir's words, Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said.
"The prime minister used expressions that were gravely offensive, very strongly anti-Semitic and ... strongly counter to principles of tolerance, dialogue and understanding between the Western world and the Islamic world," Frattini said.
Australian Prime Minister John Howard called Mahathir's comments offensive and repugnant.
"Any suggestion from anybody anywhere in the world of dividing the world into Jewish and non-Jewish groupings is historically indefensible and wrong," Howard told Australia Radio.
Leaders at the summit included Karzai, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf and Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri. Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo of the Philippines were special guests because of their large Muslim minorities.
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGASQT52WLD.html
For those who say that this dude is a lone wack job who's off his rocker, Yeah, you're probably right....The Prime Minister of Malaysia, hosting the 57-nation Islamic summit in no way reflects the opinions of those gathered there. The cheers and standing ovation were just a way for those at the summit to express themselves right?
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No big surprise here. He shouldn't have apologized, if that's how he feels, he shouldn't be ashamed of it or try and take it back.
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why should he apologize for telling the truth?
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why should he apologize for telling the truth?
;D
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The speech drew immediate criticism from Israel and other countries and raised fears that it could fan violence against Jews. But it got a standing ovation from the kings, presidents, sheiks max marlins and emirs - including key U.S. allies - gathered in Malaysia's capital, Putrajaya.
Oh wow :D
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No big surprise here. He shouldn't have apologized, if that's how he feels, he shouldn't be ashamed of it or try and take it back.
The same goes for Bush taking back his statement about these wars being crusades.
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LOL you guys, when you grow up, will look back, and realize how incredibly stupid you were in your younger days. Trust me on it. Bush said 'crusades' as a slip of the tongue, it had no christian implications. This guy clearly doesn't like jews, and was saying it to rousing cheers, then cancels what he said later. He should just leave it be, that's obviously how he feels.
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LOL you guys, when you grow up, will look back, and realize how incredibly stupid you were in your younger days. Trust me on it. Bush said 'crusades' as a slip of the tongue, it had no christian implications. This guy clearly doesn't like jews, and was saying it to rousing cheers, then cancels what he said later. He should just leave it be, that's obviously how he feels.
Yes, and it slipped out of the General's tongue also ::)
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Are you that fucking stupid? GOOD FUCKING GOD.
If there was a "crusade" going on in the traditional sense of the word, we'd just NUKE the whoel fucking middle east! Grow the fuck up! Are you so fucking stupid you can't understand that the united states bows to nobody, and could eradicate whoever the fuck they wanted, if that was their goal? Damn, the ignorance is so fucking amazing on here.
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Talk about stupid. The reaaon people were mad over Bush's comment was not because of the belief that he'd blow up the whole Middle East... it was because he made it seem like it was a war between Christianity and Islam...
Yes, the U.S. could eradicate anyone... but what significance does that have in today's world... you think Russia, China, India, Israel, and other countries don't have the military power to do that.... THEY DO... the only difference is they have moral standards and we don't...
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It's confirmed. You are a brainwashed young man.
You claim that China has better "moral standards' that the US? Take a look at China's record of human rights abuses.
Look at the war the Russians waged on Afghanistan.
I'm flabberghasted at how stupid the comments you made just were.
Anything you say from here on out holds no weight whatsoever. You've just confirmed your ignorance on world events and history.
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First off, I just gave a quick list of countries with a great deal of power, but there are numerous other countries who can "eradicate" countries. Even Pakistan nowadays has the ability to do so. My point is that RIGHT NOW, in the present, you don't see MOST of these countries doing that.
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It's confirmed. You are a brainwashed young man.
The most ironic thing I've seen or read since "Commercial Free Radio".
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It's confirmed. You are a brainwashed young man.
The most ironic thing I've seen or read since "Commercial Free Radio".
Here comes the confused Canadian...
Listen you little fake: you aren't a black panther, you routinely get shut down for talking about shit you don't know squat about, and I'm pretty sure you aren't over the age of 18. I know puberty is a confusing time, but please, do the world a favor and take your adolescent anger/confusion and put it into something positive. Listening to Paris and idol worshiping extremists is way to spend your youth. I know Canada is pretty cold but why not spend some time outside? Tobogganing sounds pretty fun as do snowboarding and or skiing. Trust me, you'll be much happier in the long run. Right now, you just look like an ass, and trust me, nobody likes an ass.
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^^ lololol
hey lincoln,maybe you can answer this for me. what are dead prez trying to "get free" from?
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If I were attending this conference, I would have stood up and applauded too. The man spoke the truth. I fail to see how anyone can object to his comments.
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If I were attending this conference, I would have stood up and applauded too. The man spoke the truth. I fail to see how anyone can object to his comments.
Why am I not suprised? ::)
Leaders across the world have said that these remarks are anti-semitic and wrong and will do nothing but give extremists more ammo. I think they are right. Look who comes out praising them.
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It's confirmed. You are a brainwashed young man.
The most ironic thing I've seen or read since "Commercial Free Radio".
Here comes the confused Canadian...
Listen you little fake: you aren't a black panther, you routinely get shut down for talking about shit you don't know squat about, and I'm pretty sure you aren't over the age of 18. I know puberty is a confusing time, but please, do the world a favor and take your adolescent anger/confusion and put it into something positive. Listening to Paris and idol worshiping extremists is way to spend your youth. I know Canada is pretty cold but why not spend some time outside? Tobogganing sounds pretty fun as do snowboarding and or skiing. Trust me, you'll be much happier in the long run. Right now, you just look like an ass, and trust me, nobody likes an ass.
When have I claimed to be a Black Panther? Yes I am younger than 18 but that's irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with listening to Paris & I do not worship "extremists" I am just well educated in one of my heroes, Malcolm X. Also, Canada is not nearly as cold as people say, that's one of the most ignorant things Americans say. I do not tobbagon nor do I snowboard or ski, the area I live in doesn't get much snow.
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It's confirmed. You are a brainwashed young man.
The most ironic thing I've seen or read since "Commercial Free Radio".
Here comes the confused Canadian...
Listen you little fake: you aren't a black panther, you routinely get shut down for talking about shit you don't know squat about, and I'm pretty sure you aren't over the age of 18. I know puberty is a confusing time, but please, do the world a favor and take your adolescent anger/confusion and put it into something positive. Listening to Paris and idol worshiping extremists is way to spend your youth. I know Canada is pretty cold but why not spend some time outside? Tobogganing sounds pretty fun as do snowboarding and or skiing. Trust me, you'll be much happier in the long run. Right now, you just look like an ass, and trust me, nobody likes an ass.
I am just well educated in one of my heroes, Malcolm X.
and you're white arent you?
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Come on Sub-Z, I'm sure people such as MLK Jr., Rosa Parks, and other great figures are heroes to you. :)
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It's confirmed. You are a brainwashed young man.
The most ironic thing I've seen or read since "Commercial Free Radio".
Here comes the confused Canadian...
Listen you little fake: you aren't a black panther, you routinely get shut down for talking about shit you don't know squat about, and I'm pretty sure you aren't over the age of 18. I know puberty is a confusing time, but please, do the world a favor and take your adolescent anger/confusion and put it into something positive. Listening to Paris and idol worshiping extremists is way to spend your youth. I know Canada is pretty cold but why not spend some time outside? Tobogganing sounds pretty fun as do snowboarding and or skiing. Trust me, you'll be much happier in the long run. Right now, you just look like an ass, and trust me, nobody likes an ass.
I am just well educated in one of my heroes, Malcolm X.
and you're white arent you?
That is the colour of my skin, yes.
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Apparently George Bush went Cowboy on this guy over the weekend. They were somewhere at some meeting, and the Malaysian guy who said this was there, they said Bush "pulled him aside" to speak to him about the remarks. LOL THATTA BOY GEORGE!!! TELL EM WE DONT STAND FOR THAT SHIT!!!
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Apparently George Bush went Cowboy on this guy over the weekend. They were somewhere at some meeting, and the Malaysian guy who said this was there, they said Bush "pulled him aside" to speak to him about the remarks. LOL THATTA BOY GEORGE!!! TELL EM WE DONT STAND FOR THAT SHIT!!!
Nah, Bush was just asking him what the meeting was about, or maybe asking him for the definition of a word. That's one stupid president we got. LMAO@ him comparing himself to Arnold and stating "we both don't speak the language that well"
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^^ Yeah, that's a sense of humour you'd never find in a liberal. I love this guy, i'm just so glad that America is fortunate enough to have ANOTHER 5 YEARS!!! of Bush coming. Just imagine what great things we'll accomplish.
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Of course you love him, we all love him. He's comedy. What other president has made the public laugh so much at his stupidity?
And yes, we'll accomplish a great deal. Let's give money back to people, go to war, and send our country into a $2163987623147832165442654237856437 deficit
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It's confirmed. You are a brainwashed young man.
The most ironic thing I've seen or read since "Commercial Free Radio".
Here comes the confused Canadian...
Listen you little fake: you aren't a black panther, you routinely get shut down for talking about shit you don't know squat about, and I'm pretty sure you aren't over the age of 18. I know puberty is a confusing time, but please, do the world a favor and take your adolescent anger/confusion and put it into something positive. Listening to Paris and idol worshiping extremists is way to spend your youth. I know Canada is pretty cold but why not spend some time outside? Tobogganing sounds pretty fun as do snowboarding and or skiing. Trust me, you'll be much happier in the long run. Right now, you just look like an ass, and trust me, nobody likes an ass.
I am just well educated in one of my heroes, Malcolm X.
and you're white arent you?
That is the colour of my skin, yes.
thats just sick
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LOL @ Ballapetite thinking it's bad to give people back money. What the fuck are you smoking? Think about that one, man, how could it be bad to give people back what you took from them.
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LOL @ Ballapetite thinking it's bad to give people back money. What the fuck are you smoking? Think about that one, man, how could it be bad to give people back what you took from them.
Obviously you have no clue about economics in relation to politics. It's STUPID for a president to give back money right before he goes to war. In addition, that move was carried out so that "average" Americans only get back a few hundred while the big business leaders get back hundreds of thousands-millions. It's better of nobody gets back anything, because that way programs don't have to take cuts, we will actually have money for war if we're going on a killing spree as we are, and our country won't have to take the biggest fuckin deficit. It's not always bad for the government to give back money, but in this case it obviously was.
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LOL @ Ballapetite thinking it's bad to give people back money. What the fuck are you smoking? Think about that one, man, how could it be bad to give people back what you took from them.
Obviously you have no clue about economics in relation to politics. It's STUPID for a president to give back money right before he goes to war. In addition, that move was carried out so that "average" Americans only get back a few hundred while the big business leaders get back hundreds of thousands-millions. It's better of nobody gets back anything, because that way programs don't have to take cuts, we will actually have money for war if we're going on a killing spree as we are, and our country won't have to take the biggest fuckin deficit. It's not always bad for the government to give back money, but in this case it obviously was.
Looks like we've got an economics Whizz on our hands! Tell me more!
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LOL @ Ballapetite thinking it's bad to give people back money. What the fuck are you smoking? Think about that one, man, how could it be bad to give people back what you took from them.
Obviously you have no clue about economics in relation to politics. It's STUPID for a president to give back money right before he goes to war. In addition, that move was carried out so that "average" Americans only get back a few hundred while the big business leaders get back hundreds of thousands-millions. It's better of nobody gets back anything, because that way programs don't have to take cuts, we will actually have money for war if we're going on a killing spree as we are, and our country won't have to take the biggest fuckin deficit. It's not always bad for the government to give back money, but in this case it obviously was.
Looks like we've got an economics Whizz on our hands! Tell me more!
I don't mind explaining things, but with you it's a waste of time. You can't make connections and everything has to be explained in detail. Diagrams would be necessary and I really don't have the patience for all that, nor do I enjoy teaching the dumb. Pick up "Economics for Dummies", but I don't know, you might end up mailing them for further explanations.
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thats just sick
How so?
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World Leaders influenced by local Jewish lobbyists have run out to condemn Mahathir Mohameds comments, but again the question is not "Is Mahathir Mohamed a racist", the question is, are these comments true. And the answer is yes. Engle, you know Im no alias who will agree with any comment. But I can prove Mahathir Mohameds remarks. What is there to argue? That Jews are not in control of the world media? they have not set the blueprint for modern banking institutions? Are you tellin me they DONT fight their wars by proxy? Are you tellin me Marxism was NOT founded by Jews? I can prove Mahathir Mohameds remarks. Unfortunately in this day and age, people are not equal and we live in such a world. Dont condemn the man for speaking the truth, condemn the situation behind those remarks.
*stands up and gives Mahathir Mohamed a standing ovation*
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Listen, I agree with you.
In fact, I made a call to my local FBI office and they told me they are sending out 2 field agents to try and figure this whole mess out. Their names are agents Mulder and Scully and they work for a under-funded division of the FBI called the X-files. This Mulder guy loves a good conspiracy and seemed happy to try and investigate this "Jewish plan for world domination".
So far he's infiltrated a secret meeting with all the local Jewish leaders and he told me that their plans to take over the world are much further along than any of us expected! In fact, They've put a special chemical in the water of the middle east to make Arabs extremely racist thus furthering the Jewish agenda! He then told me how these local Jewish leaders laughed and laughed at how they were controlling nearly every aspect of the world, from the power companies to the price of wine! Seriously, from here on out, when you see something wrong with the world, instead of looking at the real cause of the problem, Agent Mulder told me that you can just blame the "international Jewsih conspiracy" and be on your merry way.
Suicide bomers? Jews fault.
Power outages? Ditto
George Bush? Guess who's fault!
Price of Gasoline? Jews.
High taxes? Yep!
Poor Economy? Key part of the Jewish Agenda!
Seriously, you're no better than a KKK member. Keep your racist bullshit and scapegoating to yourself.
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How am I racist? And how dare you compare me to some inbred piece of shit? Im not standing here before you blaming the "Jews" for my problems, or for the problems of the corrupt, inefficient Islamic world. All Im sayin, is I agree with Mahathir Mohameds comments, these comments can be proven, and I dont mean no disrespect by these views, but this is the climate we live in, I have no choice but to report the truth.
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Like I said in my previous post, I think Tech is the biggest Anti-Semite in WCC history...PeACe
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Like I said in my previous post, I think Tech is the biggest Anti-Semite in WCC history...PeACe
:o.................. :(
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Like I said in my previous post, I think Tech is the biggest Anti-Semite in WCC history...PeACe
:o.................. :(
Don't be sad Sub-Z, I'm sure NIK just forgot about you; we all know you're #1. :D
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thanks,that makes me feel a lot better
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Okay prove to me that these accusations are false:
1. US has had a soft corner for jews rite since the end of the second world was where they fought for the liberation of hte jews against Hitler
2. US supports the state of Israel blindly just because it is stronger and possess nuclear weapons and the US is scared of opposing it
3. US is thinking out its middle east policy keeping the State of Israel as the cornerstone and is forgetting all the other Arab Nations
4. The Christian dominated US GOVT. is supporting the JEWish state of ISrael AGAINST the MUSLIM state of Palestine... WHICH is in itself a BLATANT RACIST POLICY...
and it makes me wonder why the US citizens feel that Racism is BAD and DIRTY... ::)