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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: IKON on October 26, 2003, 04:28:18 PM
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damn y'all these wildfires in southern cali( San Bernadino, Rancho Cucamonga, Claremont, Valverde, La Verne, Simi Valley and now San Diego) are outta control :o :o :o
like 300 homes have been burnt to the ground, im here in pico rivera and i see ashes falling and it smells like smoke outside
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Wow!!! :o There's a wildfire going on and it smells like smoke outside? That's crazy. ::)
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lucky me im in the san fernando valley 8)
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not fire tt wildfires ;D ;D ;D
i just feel sorry for the people who have lost their homes already
the biggest fire has been burning since tuesday(the grand prix fire) and it has now combined with another fire thus becoming even bigger
and great dane watch out cuz u never know in them valleys
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naw its tooooooooo many things in the valley to catch fire the only thing that will catch fire is the moutains suroundin the valley
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San Diego in that last 24 hours.
10 dead more than 300 homes destroyed. 1 small plane crash landed/exploded on a freeway. Most major freeways closed no work no school tomorrow. About 10 separate fronts all over San Diego County.
Monday Night Football either cancelled/postponed or moved to Phoenix monday night.
Qualcomm Stadium is being used a evacuation center. Air quality near the stadium is poor.
Strong Santa Ana 60 mph max winds are blowing embers all over San Diego in a hurry.
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i spent the night in Long Beach last night and that shit was crazy when i went to my car today it was full of ashes a fuckin shit load and it looks like we are in hell or something with all that fuckin ash and smoke
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Yeah it was dark red the whole day.
Updated Casualties
2 more bite the dust so thats 12 in one day.
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they can't stop the one thats headed for my pad. and thats 10 miles away. I'm in the North Part of San Diego County. we gettin ready to move out :-\
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(http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/US/West/10/26/california.wildfire/vert.twister.ap.jpg)
Are you in Escondido?
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dam
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I'm in San Marcos. it's right next to Esco. right now the fire is burning lake Dixon and that's about 10 to fifteen miles from here. so we got out shit packed up just in case. if they can't put it out, which is likely right now cuase they don't got enough resorces, we gonna have to move.
and the reason SD county is gettin fucked up right now is cuase we sent most of our resorces up north to help out San Bernadino and Rancho Cucomunga with they fires yesterday. and all these fires broke out this morning. so....
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shits crazy. about an hour and a half ago, a small air plane crashed into the 163 freeway in SD. there was so much smoke over the whole county that it couldn't see shit.
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shits crazy. about an hour and a half ago, a small air plane crashed into the 163 freeway in SD. there was so much smoke over the whole county that it couldn't see shit.
Can't breathe either...I had to wear a shirt over my mouth.
No air conditioning in car because ash was coming through.
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ESPN.com news services
Each Monday night, the question is posed: Are you ready for some football?
This Monday night, the question may be: Is San Diego ready for some football?
NFL officials are considering moving the Chargers-Dolphins game Monday night out of Qualcomm Stadium because of wildfires in the San Diego area.
Joe Browne, the NFL's executive vice president, said Sunday the league had spoken with Chargers officials about the conditions. The sky throughout the county was choked with smoke and ash from three fast-moving fires that, according to the Los Angeles Times, has burned roughly 270,000 acres, killed 11 people and burned more than 500 homes.
San Diego Mayor Dick Murphy urged the NFL to either postpone or move the game.
Chargers general manager A.J. Smith said team officials were on a conference call with the league and he expected discussions to last into the night Sunday. He heard that three or four alternative sites were being considered. Officials from Phoenix, Oakland and San Francisco have reportedly been contacted..
"I don't know if they'll cancel it, play it here or move it to another site," Smith said. "We're prepared to get on a plane and go somewhere. We can move real quickly. We're just waiting to see what the NFL will do.
"Also, remember, it's a night game, so we're still borrowing time."
The Dolphins arrived in San Diego late Sunday afternoon and were awaiting word from the NFL, a spokesman said.
The Qualcomm Stadium's parking lot was turned into a major evacuation center as residents from several surrounding neighborhoods were ordered out of their homes by authorities.
Smith said he'd never seen a situation like this, and like thousands of San Diegans, was watching coverage on TV.
"I'm watching the news right now and it seems to be ongoing," Smith said.
The wildfires have now burned 650 homes in Southern California and left eleven people dead. The fires stretch for miles, fanned by fierce winds. Some of the fires that have been burning for days have merged into huge walls of flames.
The state's largest fire, at 100-thousand acres, is in eastern San Diego County. It has killed at least eight people, including two who died inside their car as they apparently tried to escape the flames.
Governor Gray Davis says the fires are California's worst in ten years.
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lucky me im in the san fernando valley 8)
I hear your in danger now.
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I heard rumors about an Up In Smoke Tour coming to Europe ;D
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Pics to see whats happening in San Diego
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/fires/multimedia.html# (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/fires/multimedia.html#)
here's 1
(http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/fires/images/gibbins/gallery03.jpg)
300 houses went up in flames in this 1 area.
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yah, this shit is nutz..everything closin down too. They say in tha last 36 hours...its spreading at the rate of 6000 acres per hour...
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I heard rumors about an Up In Smoke Tour coming to Europe ;D
ughh...please just go back 2 tha TQ board...
by tha way we smell that shit all da way here in da north...well, it alwayz smells like fire smoke here...but it's got a lil flavor 2 it these dayz...
Goddamm, isn't it a lil HOTTER than usual 4 winter season or what?? end of da world...
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more the 500 houses in san bernardino alone! my area was the first area to have to be evacuated...
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^?? uhh, where u at now?
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^?? uhh, where u at now?
right at the bottom of the waterman cayon... 48th and waterman ave..... it was like right there... and there are house all around us that didnt make it.. lucky they saved our pad
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umm..how did the fires start btw???
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witnesses say they saw a man in a gray van throw flares out the window at waterman cayon.. which is like up the road from us... scary shit.. it was just too close to home... the smoke damage is bad out here.... the walls are all gray and the carpet is just nasty.... but i am just glad.. we have a place...
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damn shits crazy thank god i live in new york an mauzip ur joke was beyond tasteless
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Damn, I Live In San Dimas, And It Seems Like All tHe SMoke Falls Down Here And MAkes Visability horrible....ashes everywhere...
I Remember Last Year, There was a huge ass fire over here, made national news, 50 houses burned, I helped my homie get his horses out of his place because they feared there house was going to get burned....But Man, theses fires are like 200 Times worse....Damn....
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http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8158/5m/images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-10/9977175.pdf
Right now San Bernardino has been the worst hit. :'( I wish I was home with family
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Crazy shit..
The dude(s) starting that fire should be convicted for multiple murders..
I heard they're chasing a convicted felon.. looked crazy from the mugshot.
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Crazy shit..
The dude(s) starting that fire should be convicted for multiple murders..
I heard they're chasing a convicted felon.. looked crazy from the mugshot.
naw, from what theyre saying...he was hunting with sum friends and got seperated and lost. Supposedly shot a flare into the air which ended up sparking off a fire. Not exactly a crime lol But u know, cant lose this many homes without having someone to blame. Hopefully tha shit ends soon, but damn...already like well over 600 homes in SD destroyed i believe, and over 200,000 acres burned. But we've had like 4 seperate fires in SD county. They say that the average amount of polution in the air is around 10-15%. 50% is said to be hazardous...San Diego county was at 90% Monday. Crazee shit...
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Let me clear it up for you guys.
http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8158/5m/images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-10/10004022.pdf (http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8158/5m/images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-10/10004022.pdf)
The fires in San Benardino were started by 2 arsonist. The fires in San Diego was started by a hunter who set a signal fire to find his partner/car with water. Cedar fire in San Diego is the largest most destructive fire in California. San Diego has been the worst hit.
Cedar fire is 45 miles wide :o
Daygostylz it wasn't a flare they changed the story...he just set a fire [Sergio Martinez of West Covina].
San Diego is the bottom fire. Simi Valley top left and San Bernardino top right.
There are some flames in Mexico too.
(http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/fires/images/031028fire_satellite.jpg)
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Let me clear it up for you guys.
http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8158/5m/images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-10/10004022.pdf (http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8158/5m/images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-10/10004022.pdf)
The fires in San Benardino were started by 2 arsonist. The fires in San Diego was started by a hunter who set a signal fire to find his partner/car with water. Cedar fire in San Diego is the largest most destructive fire in California. San Diego has been the worst hit.
Cedar fire is 45 miles wide :o
Daygostylz it wasn't a flare they changed the story...he just set a fire [Sergio Martinez of West Covina].
San Diego is the bottom fire. Simi Valley top left and San Bernardino top right.
There are some flames in Mexico too.
(http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/fires/images/031028fire_satellite.jpg)
oh aiight, tha flare shit is what i had heard. And yah, they sayin the Cedar fire is now the largest in California history. That arial pic is crazy tho.
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We lucky the Santa Ana winds died and the winds shifted back from West to East. Too bad for East San Diego :-\ but it was gonna be us or them and we are way more populated than they are.
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We lucky the Santa Ana winds died and the winds shifted back from West to East. Too bad for East San Diego :-\ but it was gonna be us or them and we are way more populated than they are.
yah, East County is nowhere near as dense as mid San Diego. If the fires swept through these areas...thered be unbelievable damage!
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Let me clear it up for you guys.
http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8158/5m/images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-10/10004022.pdf (http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8158/5m/images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-10/10004022.pdf)
The fires in San Benardino were started by 2 arsonist. The fires in San Diego was started by a hunter who set a signal fire to find his partner/car with water. Cedar fire in San Diego is the largest most destructive fire in California. San Diego has been the worst hit.
Cedar fire is 45 miles wide :o
Daygostylz it wasn't a flare they changed the story...he just set a fire [Sergio Martinez of West Covina].
San Diego is the bottom fire. Simi Valley top left and San Bernardino top right.
There are some flames in Mexico too.
(http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/fires/images/031028fire_satellite.jpg)
theyre sayin too, that people 1000 miles east of us will be able to smell the smoke frum this fire...
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is there any time frame for when they think the fires will be out
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is there any time frame for when they think the fires will be out
i dont know about the ones up in San Bernardino n all...
in SD, i heard the Otay fire was completely contained...it burned over 45,000 acres. The other 2 i believe are only 20% contained. The Cedar fire should be a while tho...its like 3 to 4 times bigger the the Otay fire was.
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well, Old Fire, the one that started in San Bernardino, is now 10% contained, but is still not contained in the mountains. Right now Arrowhead, the place of million dollar homes in next.
Lake Arrowhead fire rages on
By Evan LaGasse and David Schwartz, Staff Writers
LAKE ARROWHEAD - Walls of flames fueled by thousands of tinder-dry and diseased trees ripped out-of-control through San Bernardino Mountains resort communities Wednesday destroying dozens of homes and forcing evacuations of thousands of more residents.
Turned into eerie ghost towns lurking apprehensively under a pall of smoke, the alpine towns waited helplessly Wednesday in the path of the seemingly unstoppable Old Fire.
On its quest for fuel and pushed by ocean-borne southwesterly wind gusts up to 25 mph, the 200-foot tall wall of fire advanced into Lake Arrowhead, the resort town's 9,000 full-time residents evacuated and only weary firefighters arrayed against the flames.
An actual number of homes lost in Lake Arrowhead was unavailable but by early afternoon six homes had been destroyed in Cedar Glen on the west end of the lake.
The arson-caused Old Fire, which exploded into life Saturday morning just outside San Bernardino's city limits and roaded into the mountains above, had consumed more than 28,000 acres of brush and forest land, more than 500 homes and was only 10 percent contained and shows no signs of abating.
Four deaths have been blamed on the fire and the cost of fighting the fire was estimated at $3.7 million. More than 2,000 firefighters are battling the blaze.
Tom Sherman of the Bureau of Land Management said the fire is the worst, ``by tenfold,'' he's seen in his 40-year career including the Bear Fire of 1970 and the Panorama Fire of 1980.
It represents the worst possible conditions for all three factors in firefighting: topography, air and fuel, he said.
The fuel is the acres of dead and dying trees caused by the bark beetle infestation and ``four, five, six years of drought,'' Sherman said.
The air was estimated at about 10 percent humidity Wednesday morning, just the type of dry atmosphere fires thrive in.
The terrain is mountainous on all fronts, providing the incline for the fire to spread itself over a large amount of ground in a short amount of time.
Predictions of a 40 percent chance of rain by Friday were cited as a cause for some hope.
Overnight, the wildfire jumped Cajon Pass and moved toward Summit Valley and Hesperia on one front, while its back end continued to devastate the mountains, hovering dangerously close to Running Springs and Green Valley Lake after making its way up Highway 18.
Firefighters on both fronts were forced to watch trees and brush go up in flames, resorting only to saving structures as the fire burned out of control.
``We have a defensive strategy because there's no way we can fight 15 miles of flame,'' said U.S. Forest Service Division Supervisor Marty Hamel as he waited for the fire to arrive at the corner of Highway 138 and Summit Valley road in an unincorporated area near Hesperia.
Bulldozers took out large areas of vegetation at the site in an attempt to create a buffer between the fire and a local gas station while other firefighters waited to employ their full arsenal of hoses and foam to push the fire past the station's pumps, propane tanks and trucks.
By early afternoon, homes were burning in the mountain community of Cedarpines Park.
``There's fire on so many fronts, it's not even manageable at this point,'' said Chris Cade, a Forest Service fire prevention technician, as he watched a pillar of smoke he estimated at 9,000 feet rise into a hazy sky thick with ash. ``I am at a loss what you can do about it.''
The toll for all Southern California fires stood at 17 people dead, more than 620,000 acres burned and 1,800 homes destroyed. More than 12,000 firefighters and support crew were fighting what Gov. Gray Davis said may be the worst and costliest disaster California has ever faced. He estimated the cost at $2 billion so far.
Fire officials said that of all the dozen Southern California fires, they saw the most danger in the San Bernardino Mountains.
By Wednesday, the Old Fire threatened 50,000 homes, 80,000 outbuildings, and 2,000 businesses, all worth $10 billion, according to the Old Fire incident report.
But the fire so far has received fewer resources.
It was a seemingly random mix of untouched buildings, such as Rim of the World High School in Lake Arrowhead, and the ashy shells of other structures ravaged by fire.
``They've been going about every direction imaginable tonight,'' said Hamel of the wildfire's unpredictable flames.
Despite the relief provided by agencies throughout California and other states, crews were still spread thin, many personnel working 12- to 18-hour shifts and even 24 hour shifts.
Almost all the emergency workers looked exhausted, fighting back yawns and going on adrenaline.
``It's gonna be a while,'' Sherman said. ``It's gonna be up to Mother Nature.''
As firefighters brought smaller blazes under control in other parts of Southern California, officials promised Wednesday that hundreds more firefighters would be dispatched to beleaguered mountain communities as the Old Fire became Southern California's most dangerous.
``All new resources, any new resources, will be put to the Old Fire,'' said Larry Benson, spokesman with the Southern Operations Coordination Center in Riverside.
Firefighters had contained five Southern California fires early Wednesday; eight still burned out of control.
When fires are controlled, crews are diverted through the Southern Operations Coordination Center to the most dangerous fires, measured by danger to human life and property.
About 2,175 firefighters from state, county and local governments were battling the Old Fire. About 1,569 people were battling the Grand Prix Fire.
The Cedar Fire in San Diego, which had torched 233,000 acres, had 3,330 fire personnel fighting it. Early Wednesday, that fire threatened 21,000 buildings.
``At one point in time, (the Cedar Fire) was our No. 1 priority,'' Benson said. ``Since it moved into more undeveloped land, it's dropped in threat potential.''
Bill Peters, spokesman with the California Department of Forestry, based in San Bernardino, was called out to fight the Simi Incident in Los Angeles County.
He said that no fires had as many personnel on them as officials wanted.
``Ten major fires at the same time stretches the pool very thin,'' Peters said. ``It really taxes our resources.''
Meanwhile in San Bernardino, where the Old Fire consumed more than 300 homes inside the city over the weekend, Cal State San Bernardino reopened Wednesday.
The school closed Saturday after the fire destroyed a temporary building containing five classrooms. The fire did not burn any major structures on campus and there were no injuries, but the campus was evacuated.
A charred rectangle of earth marking the site of the lost building was roped off with orange netting. Students checked lists to see where classes had relocated. They swapped evacuation stories and chatted with worried friends on their cell phones.
Before reopening, buildings, classrooms and residence halls were cleaned and deodorized, air filters changed and cleaned and fire alarms reset. But, students said, the smell of smoke lingered.
Although not damaged, the children's center remained closed for cleaning but was expected to reopen Thursday.
The Associated Press and staff writers Leigh Muzslay and Joe Nelson contributed to this report.
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They say November 16 for Cedar fire in San Diego.
The largest fire in terms of acres in California History. The Cedar Fire has burned more than 250,000 acres from Ramona to San Diego over the past four days. Total fires acres in San Diego = +350,000 acres.
So far Southern California fires have burned more land than the size of Rhode Island.
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well, Old Fire, the one that started in San Bernardino, is now 10% contained, but is still not contained in the mountains. Right now Arrowhead, the place of million dollar homes in next.
Lake Arrowhead fire rages on
By Evan LaGasse and David Schwartz, Staff Writers
LAKE ARROWHEAD - Walls of flames fueled by thousands of tinder-dry and diseased trees ripped out-of-control through San Bernardino Mountains resort communities Wednesday destroying dozens of homes and forcing evacuations of thousands of more residents.
Turned into eerie ghost towns lurking apprehensively under a pall of smoke, the alpine towns waited helplessly Wednesday in the path of the seemingly unstoppable Old Fire.
On its quest for fuel and pushed by ocean-borne southwesterly wind gusts up to 25 mph, the 200-foot tall wall of fire advanced into Lake Arrowhead, the resort town's 9,000 full-time residents evacuated and only weary firefighters arrayed against the flames.
An actual number of homes lost in Lake Arrowhead was unavailable but by early afternoon six homes had been destroyed in Cedar Glen on the west end of the lake.
The arson-caused Old Fire, which exploded into life Saturday morning just outside San Bernardino's city limits and roaded into the mountains above, had consumed more than 28,000 acres of brush and forest land, more than 500 homes and was only 10 percent contained and shows no signs of abating.
Four deaths have been blamed on the fire and the cost of fighting the fire was estimated at $3.7 million. More than 2,000 firefighters are battling the blaze.
Tom Sherman of the Bureau of Land Management said the fire is the worst, ``by tenfold,'' he's seen in his 40-year career including the Bear Fire of 1970 and the Panorama Fire of 1980.
It represents the worst possible conditions for all three factors in firefighting: topography, air and fuel, he said.
The fuel is the acres of dead and dying trees caused by the bark beetle infestation and ``four, five, six years of drought,'' Sherman said.
The air was estimated at about 10 percent humidity Wednesday morning, just the type of dry atmosphere fires thrive in.
The terrain is mountainous on all fronts, providing the incline for the fire to spread itself over a large amount of ground in a short amount of time.
Predictions of a 40 percent chance of rain by Friday were cited as a cause for some hope.
Overnight, the wildfire jumped Cajon Pass and moved toward Summit Valley and Hesperia on one front, while its back end continued to devastate the mountains, hovering dangerously close to Running Springs and Green Valley Lake after making its way up Highway 18.
Firefighters on both fronts were forced to watch trees and brush go up in flames, resorting only to saving structures as the fire burned out of control.
``We have a defensive strategy because there's no way we can fight 15 miles of flame,'' said U.S. Forest Service Division Supervisor Marty Hamel as he waited for the fire to arrive at the corner of Highway 138 and Summit Valley road in an unincorporated area near Hesperia.
Bulldozers took out large areas of vegetation at the site in an attempt to create a buffer between the fire and a local gas station while other firefighters waited to employ their full arsenal of hoses and foam to push the fire past the station's pumps, propane tanks and trucks.
By early afternoon, homes were burning in the mountain community of Cedarpines Park.
``There's fire on so many fronts, it's not even manageable at this point,'' said Chris Cade, a Forest Service fire prevention technician, as he watched a pillar of smoke he estimated at 9,000 feet rise into a hazy sky thick with ash. ``I am at a loss what you can do about it.''
The toll for all Southern California fires stood at 17 people dead, more than 620,000 acres burned and 1,800 homes destroyed. More than 12,000 firefighters and support crew were fighting what Gov. Gray Davis said may be the worst and costliest disaster California has ever faced. He estimated the cost at $2 billion so far.
Fire officials said that of all the dozen Southern California fires, they saw the most danger in the San Bernardino Mountains.
By Wednesday, the Old Fire threatened 50,000 homes, 80,000 outbuildings, and 2,000 businesses, all worth $10 billion, according to the Old Fire incident report.
But the fire so far has received fewer resources.
It was a seemingly random mix of untouched buildings, such as Rim of the World High School in Lake Arrowhead, and the ashy shells of other structures ravaged by fire.
``They've been going about every direction imaginable tonight,'' said Hamel of the wildfire's unpredictable flames.
Despite the relief provided by agencies throughout California and other states, crews were still spread thin, many personnel working 12- to 18-hour shifts and even 24 hour shifts.
Almost all the emergency workers looked exhausted, fighting back yawns and going on adrenaline.
``It's gonna be a while,'' Sherman said. ``It's gonna be up to Mother Nature.''
As firefighters brought smaller blazes under control in other parts of Southern California, officials promised Wednesday that hundreds more firefighters would be dispatched to beleaguered mountain communities as the Old Fire became Southern California's most dangerous.
``All new resources, any new resources, will be put to the Old Fire,'' said Larry Benson, spokesman with the Southern Operations Coordination Center in Riverside.
Firefighters had contained five Southern California fires early Wednesday; eight still burned out of control.
When fires are controlled, crews are diverted through the Southern Operations Coordination Center to the most dangerous fires, measured by danger to human life and property.
About 2,175 firefighters from state, county and local governments were battling the Old Fire. About 1,569 people were battling the Grand Prix Fire.
The Cedar Fire in San Diego, which had torched 233,000 acres, had 3,330 fire personnel fighting it. Early Wednesday, that fire threatened 21,000 buildings.
``At one point in time, (the Cedar Fire) was our No. 1 priority,'' Benson said. ``Since it moved into more undeveloped land, it's dropped in threat potential.''
Bill Peters, spokesman with the California Department of Forestry, based in San Bernardino, was called out to fight the Simi Incident in Los Angeles County.
He said that no fires had as many personnel on them as officials wanted.
``Ten major fires at the same time stretches the pool very thin,'' Peters said. ``It really taxes our resources.''
Meanwhile in San Bernardino, where the Old Fire consumed more than 300 homes inside the city over the weekend, Cal State San Bernardino reopened Wednesday.
The school closed Saturday after the fire destroyed a temporary building containing five classrooms. The fire did not burn any major structures on campus and there were no injuries, but the campus was evacuated.
A charred rectangle of earth marking the site of the lost building was roped off with orange netting. Students checked lists to see where classes had relocated. They swapped evacuation stories and chatted with worried friends on their cell phones.
Before reopening, buildings, classrooms and residence halls were cleaned and deodorized, air filters changed and cleaned and fire alarms reset. But, students said, the smell of smoke lingered.
Although not damaged, the children's center remained closed for cleaning but was expected to reopen Thursday.
The Associated Press and staff writers Leigh Muzslay and Joe Nelson contributed to this report.
the reason why our fire is so bad.. is because we lost more homes... and structures.... thats what the fire man said last night.. he was standing outside wal-mart... so go ask him
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yeah, Old Fire is actually really small compare to the one in San Diego, but it high a heavy populated area first, and it's the most expensive right now in terms of damage. L A Times has a huge article about the stand off in Arrowhead. San Diego though is in huge danger, as at any moment, the fire could go into San Diego, and take out the whole city, that's how big that fire is, it's burned way more than the others, and is in Mexico too now.
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yeah, Old Fire is actually really small compare to the one in San Diego, but it high a heavy populated area first, and it's the most expensive right now in terms of damage. L A Times has a huge article about the stand off in Arrowhead. San Diego though is in huge danger, as at any moment, the fire could go into San Diego, and take out the whole city, that's how big that fire is, it's burned way more than the others, and is in Mexico too now.
Let me sum it up since I live in San Diego...the fire started in Ramona[San Diego County] an east county rural city northeast of populated San Diego. The lost hunter started the fire in Ramona and CDF let the fire blowup.
At the same time Santa Ana winds were in affect in Southern California. Santa Ana winds are high speed hot desert winds blow into the city from east/northwest to the west out the ocean. Usually winds blow from west to east from the ocean for those who don't know. Ok so for a while the fires blew into the city and burned down alot of homes then the Santa Ana winds died and we were saved.
Now the wind are back to normal...and the fire is going the other way...now east county is on fire.
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I know, I'm from San Bernardino. The Santa Ana winds start in San Bernardino, when the high pressure builds in the high desert, and push into the mountains, and it comes out the Cajon Pass, and pass Devil's Canyon. It's also why the Old Fire went into the city, and not up the hill like fires usually do.