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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 29, 2003, 11:18:28 AM
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aiight mah beloved Laker fanz ::) lol
letz git it crackin!!!!!! ;D
The west is gonna be OFF THE FUCKIN CHAIN this year. Maybe even better then last year. One thing positive, the Eastern Conference doesnt stand a chance...again ;)
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Neither do the Spurs ;)
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Plus they have a great bench in Fisher, George, Fox (when he returns), Bryon Russell, Luke Walton... ;D
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Neither do the Spurs ;)
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Plus they have a great bench in Fisher, George, Fox (when he returns), Bryon Russell, Luke Walton... ;D
whos the champs again?? refresh mah memory ;D
BTW, u had me crackin up when i read Luke Walton's name up there....LOL
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Neither do the Spurs ;)
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Plus they have a great bench in Fisher, George, Fox (when he returns), Bryon Russell, Luke Walton... ;D
Lakers only starting with four players this season are they?
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Neither do the Spurs ;)
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Plus they have a great bench in Fisher, George, Fox (when he returns), Bryon Russell, Luke Walton... ;D
whos the champs again?? refresh mah memory ;D
BTW, u had me crackin up when i read Luke Walton's name up there....LOL
The Spurs are the Champs...but they have a completely new team and so do the Lakers, but the Lakers have a much better team now....Come on Rasho Nesterovic trying to fill in for Robinson, LMAO...and BTW, what's so funny about Luke Walton? He's a great passer and can play great defense...he can even score a few points here and there....and you think that's funny? ???
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Neither do the Spurs ;)
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Plus they have a great bench in Fisher, George, Fox (when he returns), Bryon Russell, Luke Walton... ;D
whos the champs again?? refresh mah memory ;D
BTW, u had me crackin up when i read Luke Walton's name up there....LOL
The Spurs are the Champs...but they have a completely new team and so do the Lakers, but the Lakers have a much better team now....Come on Rasho Nesterovic trying to fill in for Robinson, LMAO...and BTW, what's so funny about Luke Walton? He's a great passer and can play great defense...he can even score a few points here and there....and you think that's funny? ???
First, Luke Walton is shit lol George is solid, Fisher a solid backup point guard, Fox ok, for a bench player (definetely not a starter IMO). But anyways, the Spurs...Nesterovic will be ok. No he's not David Robinson...but Robinson is a future hall of famer, so how many are? He's gonna contribute good defensively, and on the boards. Mercer is a SOLID scorer, and actually a pretty good defender. I dont care for Horry at all, but hopefully he'll help out...especially with spreading the floor for Duncan down low. No one in the league is gonna stop him if he's on. Garnett couldnt do it, Malone's never done it, Shaq got torched last year in any one on one matchups, so with the leagues best player...and a strong supporting cast, i dont see the Lakers gettin past them...again. Having an "all star" lineup doesnt always win championships. Im sure most Laker fans felt they had more "talent" last year the the Spurs...well...like i said before, Whos the Champs? Besides, maybe Kobe will go the Spurs next year LOL ;)
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Neither do the Spurs ;)
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Plus they have a great bench in Fisher, George, Fox (when he returns), Bryon Russell, Luke Walton... ;D
whos the champs again?? refresh mah memory ;D
BTW, u had me crackin up when i read Luke Walton's name up there....LOL
The Spurs are the Champs...but they have a completely new team and so do the Lakers, but the Lakers have a much better team now....Come on Rasho Nesterovic trying to fill in for Robinson, LMAO...and BTW, what's so funny about Luke Walton? He's a great passer and can play great defense...he can even score a few points here and there....and you think that's funny? ???
First, Luke Walton is shit lol George is solid, Fisher a solid backup point guard, Fox ok, for a bench player (definetely not a starter IMO). But anyways, the Spurs...Nesterovic will be ok. No he's not David Robinson...but Robinson is a future hall of famer, so how many are? He's gonna contribute good defensively, and on the boards. Mercer is a SOLID scorer, and actually a pretty good defender. I dont care for Horry at all, but hopefully he'll help out...especially with spreading the floor for Duncan down low. No one in the league is gonna stop him if he's on. Garnett couldnt do it, Malone's never done it, Shaq got torched last year in any one on one matchups, so with the leagues best player...and a strong supporting cast, i dont see the Lakers gettin past them...again. Having an "all star" lineup doesnt always win championships. Im sure most Laker fans felt they had more "talent" last year the the Spurs...well...like i said before, Whos the Champs? Besides, maybe Kobe will go the Spurs next year LOL ;)
Luke Walton is a rookie...he's inexperienced...what makes you come to the conclusion that he's shit? Have you even watched him play? anyway, Lakers have a much deeper team than San Antonio this year...a much better bench...just think about the guys on the lakers that are hurt and not playing right now....Rick Fox, who will be back in a couple months, Slava Medvendenko, who can provide instant offense...Brian Cook and Jamal Sampson...(a couple big guys that will hustle and rebound) Spurs struggled to win their first game against Pheonix yesterday and this is an entirely different team...It's not the same team that wont he Championship last year...so how can you Say "who's The champs" when some of those guys weren't even on the team that won it last year....such as Nesterovic, Mercer, Horry, Turkoglu and Anthony Carter...only one of these guys have actually won a championship before, that guy being Horry... ;D...True They are the defending Champs BUT like I said this team is completely different....Lakers play Spurs in a week or so I think....we'll see how it goes ;)
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NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
12 Bruce Bowen F-G 6-7 200 6/14/71 Cal State Fullerton '93 7
23 Devin Brown* G-F 6-5 235 12/30/78 Texas-San Antonio 1
7 Anthony Carter G 6-2 195 6/16/75 Hawaii '98 4
21 Tim Duncan F-C 7-0 260 4/25/76 Wake Forest '97 6
10 Alex Garcia* G-F 6-3 195 3/04/80 Brazil R
20 Emanuel Ginobili G 6-6 210 7/28/77 Argentina 1
11 Shane Heal G 6-0 180 9/06/71 Australia 1
5 Robert Horry F 6-10 208 8/25/70 Alabama '92 11
4 Sean Marks* C-F 6-10 250 8/23/75 California '98 4
33 Ron Mercer F 6-7 210 5/18/76 Kentucky '99 6
8 Radoslav Nesterovic C 7-0 248 5/30/76 Slovenia 5
9 Tony Parker G 6-2 180 5/17/82 France 2
31 Malik Rose F 6-7 255 11/23/74 Drexel '96 7
14 Hidayet Turkoglu F 6-10 220 3/19/79 Turkey 3
42 Kevin Willis
Lakers
8 Kobe Bryant - C G 6-6 220 8/23/78 Lower Merion (PA) 7
7 Brian Cook* F 6-9 234 12/04/80 Illinois '03 R
2 Derek Fisher G 6-1 205 8/09/74 Arkansas-Little Rock '96 7
17 Rick Fox* - C F 6-7 235 7/24/69 North Carolina '91 12
3 Devean George G-F 6-8 240 8/29/77 Augsburg '99 4
54 Horace Grant F 6-10 245 7/04/65 Clemson '87 16
11 Karl Malone F 6-9 259 7/24/63 Louisiana Tech '86 18
14 Stanislav Medvedenko F 6-10 250 4/04/79 Ukraine 3
34 Shaquille O'Neal - C C 7-1 340 3/06/72 Louisiana State '93 11
12 Jannero Pargo G 6-1 175 9/22/79 Arkansas '02 1
20 Gary Payton G 6-4 180 7/23/68 Oregon State '90 13
21 Kareem Rush G 6-6 215 10/30/80 Missouri '03 1
9 Bryon Russell G-F 6-7 225 12/31/70 Long Beach State '93 10
31 Jamal Sampson* F 6-11 235 5/15/83 California '05 1
4 Luke Walton F 6-8 235 3/28/80 Arizona '03 R
Compare the Lineups and I think the Lakers have an advantage
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NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
12 Bruce Bowen F-G 6-7 200 6/14/71 Cal State Fullerton '93 7
23 Devin Brown* G-F 6-5 235 12/30/78 Texas-San Antonio 1
7 Anthony Carter G 6-2 195 6/16/75 Hawaii '98 4
21 Tim Duncan F-C 7-0 260 4/25/76 Wake Forest '97 6
10 Alex Garcia* G-F 6-3 195 3/04/80 Brazil R
20 Emanuel Ginobili G 6-6 210 7/28/77 Argentina 1
11 Shane Heal G 6-0 180 9/06/71 Australia 1
5 Robert Horry F 6-10 208 8/25/70 Alabama '92 11
4 Sean Marks* C-F 6-10 250 8/23/75 California '98 4
33 Ron Mercer F 6-7 210 5/18/76 Kentucky '99 6
8 Radoslav Nesterovic C 7-0 248 5/30/76 Slovenia 5
9 Tony Parker G 6-2 180 5/17/82 France 2
31 Malik Rose F 6-7 255 11/23/74 Drexel '96 7
14 Hidayet Turkoglu F 6-10 220 3/19/79 Turkey 3
42 Kevin Willis
Lakers
8 Kobe Bryant - C G 6-6 220 8/23/78 Lower Merion (PA) 7
7 Brian Cook* F 6-9 234 12/04/80 Illinois '03 R
2 Derek Fisher G 6-1 205 8/09/74 Arkansas-Little Rock '96 7
17 Rick Fox* - C F 6-7 235 7/24/69 North Carolina '91 12
3 Devean George G-F 6-8 240 8/29/77 Augsburg '99 4
54 Horace Grant F 6-10 245 7/04/65 Clemson '87 16
11 Karl Malone F 6-9 259 7/24/63 Louisiana Tech '86 18
14 Stanislav Medvedenko F 6-10 250 4/04/79 Ukraine 3
34 Shaquille O'Neal - C C 7-1 340 3/06/72 Louisiana State '93 11
12 Jannero Pargo G 6-1 175 9/22/79 Arkansas '02 1
20 Gary Payton G 6-4 180 7/23/68 Oregon State '90 13
21 Kareem Rush G 6-6 215 10/30/80 Missouri '03 1
9 Bryon Russell G-F 6-7 225 12/31/70 Long Beach State '93 10
31 Jamal Sampson* F 6-11 235 5/15/83 California '05 1
4 Luke Walton F 6-8 235 3/28/80 Arizona '03 R
Compare the Lineups and I think the Lakers have an advantage
thats cute...unfortunately, names dont win Championships. Im pretty sure if u ask ANY Laker fan out there...they would have said they had the better talent LAST year. So what happened? They just got beat plain and simple, by a better team....period.
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NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
12 Bruce Bowen F-G 6-7 200 6/14/71 Cal State Fullerton '93 7
23 Devin Brown* G-F 6-5 235 12/30/78 Texas-San Antonio 1
7 Anthony Carter G 6-2 195 6/16/75 Hawaii '98 4
21 Tim Duncan F-C 7-0 260 4/25/76 Wake Forest '97 6
10 Alex Garcia* G-F 6-3 195 3/04/80 Brazil R
20 Emanuel Ginobili G 6-6 210 7/28/77 Argentina 1
11 Shane Heal G 6-0 180 9/06/71 Australia 1
5 Robert Horry F 6-10 208 8/25/70 Alabama '92 11
4 Sean Marks* C-F 6-10 250 8/23/75 California '98 4
33 Ron Mercer F 6-7 210 5/18/76 Kentucky '99 6
8 Radoslav Nesterovic C 7-0 248 5/30/76 Slovenia 5
9 Tony Parker G 6-2 180 5/17/82 France 2
31 Malik Rose F 6-7 255 11/23/74 Drexel '96 7
14 Hidayet Turkoglu F 6-10 220 3/19/79 Turkey 3
42 Kevin Willis
Lakers
8 Kobe Bryant - C G 6-6 220 8/23/78 Lower Merion (PA) 7
7 Brian Cook* F 6-9 234 12/04/80 Illinois '03 R
2 Derek Fisher G 6-1 205 8/09/74 Arkansas-Little Rock '96 7
17 Rick Fox* - C F 6-7 235 7/24/69 North Carolina '91 12
3 Devean George G-F 6-8 240 8/29/77 Augsburg '99 4
54 Horace Grant F 6-10 245 7/04/65 Clemson '87 16
11 Karl Malone F 6-9 259 7/24/63 Louisiana Tech '86 18
14 Stanislav Medvedenko F 6-10 250 4/04/79 Ukraine 3
34 Shaquille O'Neal - C C 7-1 340 3/06/72 Louisiana State '93 11
12 Jannero Pargo G 6-1 175 9/22/79 Arkansas '02 1
20 Gary Payton G 6-4 180 7/23/68 Oregon State '90 13
21 Kareem Rush G 6-6 215 10/30/80 Missouri '03 1
9 Bryon Russell G-F 6-7 225 12/31/70 Long Beach State '93 10
31 Jamal Sampson* F 6-11 235 5/15/83 California '05 1
4 Luke Walton F 6-8 235 3/28/80 Arizona '03 R
Compare the Lineups and I think the Lakers have an advantage
thats cute...unfortunately, names dont win Championships. Im pretty sure if u ask ANY Laker fan out there...they would have said they had the better talent LAST year. So what happened? They just got beat plain and simple, by a better team....period.
uhhh actually I'm a Laker Fan and uhhhh I knew the Lakers didnt have a great team last year...They had Shaq and Kobe carrying the team....I know they didnt have a great team but now they do...
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NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
12 Bruce Bowen F-G 6-7 200 6/14/71 Cal State Fullerton '93 7
23 Devin Brown* G-F 6-5 235 12/30/78 Texas-San Antonio 1
7 Anthony Carter G 6-2 195 6/16/75 Hawaii '98 4
21 Tim Duncan F-C 7-0 260 4/25/76 Wake Forest '97 6
10 Alex Garcia* G-F 6-3 195 3/04/80 Brazil R
20 Emanuel Ginobili G 6-6 210 7/28/77 Argentina 1
11 Shane Heal G 6-0 180 9/06/71 Australia 1
5 Robert Horry F 6-10 208 8/25/70 Alabama '92 11
4 Sean Marks* C-F 6-10 250 8/23/75 California '98 4
33 Ron Mercer F 6-7 210 5/18/76 Kentucky '99 6
8 Radoslav Nesterovic C 7-0 248 5/30/76 Slovenia 5
9 Tony Parker G 6-2 180 5/17/82 France 2
31 Malik Rose F 6-7 255 11/23/74 Drexel '96 7
14 Hidayet Turkoglu F 6-10 220 3/19/79 Turkey 3
42 Kevin Willis
Lakers
8 Kobe Bryant - C G 6-6 220 8/23/78 Lower Merion (PA) 7
7 Brian Cook* F 6-9 234 12/04/80 Illinois '03 R
2 Derek Fisher G 6-1 205 8/09/74 Arkansas-Little Rock '96 7
17 Rick Fox* - C F 6-7 235 7/24/69 North Carolina '91 12
3 Devean George G-F 6-8 240 8/29/77 Augsburg '99 4
54 Horace Grant F 6-10 245 7/04/65 Clemson '87 16
11 Karl Malone F 6-9 259 7/24/63 Louisiana Tech '86 18
14 Stanislav Medvedenko F 6-10 250 4/04/79 Ukraine 3
34 Shaquille O'Neal - C C 7-1 340 3/06/72 Louisiana State '93 11
12 Jannero Pargo G 6-1 175 9/22/79 Arkansas '02 1
20 Gary Payton G 6-4 180 7/23/68 Oregon State '90 13
21 Kareem Rush G 6-6 215 10/30/80 Missouri '03 1
9 Bryon Russell G-F 6-7 225 12/31/70 Long Beach State '93 10
31 Jamal Sampson* F 6-11 235 5/15/83 California '05 1
4 Luke Walton F 6-8 235 3/28/80 Arizona '03 R
Compare the Lineups and I think the Lakers have an advantage
thats cute...unfortunately, names dont win Championships. Im pretty sure if u ask ANY Laker fan out there...they would have said they had the better talent LAST year. So what happened? They just got beat plain and simple, by a better team....period.
uhhh actually I'm a Laker Fan and uhhhh I knew the Lakers didnt have a great team last year...They had Shaq and Kobe carrying the team....I know they didnt have a great team but now they do...
well, check the threads from last year on this board...i dont remember ONE Laker fan saying that the Spurs had better talent then them. Actually, i dont remember ONE Laker fan saying ANYone had better talent then them. But they still lost to the Spurs, and didnt even reach the conference finals. So what does that say for the theory of "the Lakers have the advantage" based on your lineups? Where, i dont exactly see a HUGE despairity anywayz. Duncan is a more solid and consistent player then anyone on the Lakers. Malone is good, but he doesnt worry me ONE bit. Payton can run a team as well as anyone, BUT..Tony Parker has had VERY good success against him in any of their head to head matchups. If u remember the playoff series against them 2 yrs ago, he completely dominated Payton. I see the Laker top 4 as very good, but the Spurs have more depth to me.
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Ok, game 1 goes to Lakers. Easy W against Mavs. Impressive.
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damn daygo u dissapoint me, i said the lakers were not deep enough or good enought to win the championship last year, want proof??????? go back and look, i aint lyin
i hate it how every1 assumes that all laker fans are cocky and think they are #1, im not like that at all, in fact i got some heat from my own lakers fam in here for saying they werent gonna win
n e ways yeah the lakers look good on paper but so did the portland trailblazers a few years ago and look what happened to them
this year though we do got a deep bench no doubt with much room for improvement with the young players
good start for both us though, the spurs won but so did the lakers ;D
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damn daygo u dissapoint me, i said the lakers were not deep enough or good enought to win the championship last year, want proof??????? go back and look, i aint lyin
i hate it how every1 assumes that all laker fans are cocky and think they are #1, im not like that at all, in fact i got some heat from my own lakers fam in here for saying they werent gonna win
n e ways yeah the lakers look good on paper but so did the portland trailblazers a few years ago and look what happened to them
this year though we do got a deep bench no doubt with much room for improvement with the young players
good start for both us though, the spurs won but so did the lakers ;D
fair enough...lol either way, we can continue this in the Spring ;D
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Spurs lost 80-72 against the Nuggets tonight, wow! talk about lack of scoring
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Spurs lost 80-72 against the Nuggets tonight, wow! talk about lack of scoring
no shit huh. I aint concerned about the first 15 games really. San Antonio starts off slow EVERY single year. Even in both Championship years.
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when kobe gets healthy, ain't no team gonna stop the lakers...can u tell me exactly who from the spurs is gonna stop shaq, malone, payton, and kobe? and laker bench has improved as well...george and fisher is gonna make those outside jumpers...rush and pargo has improved their game as well...goddamn lakers are gonna fuck shit up this season...don't get me wrong..spurs is a good team and all...but they just ain't gonna beat the lakers this season...
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Spurs lost 80-72 against the Nuggets tonight, wow! talk about lack of scoring
no shit huh. I aint concerned about the first 15 games really. San Antonio starts off slow EVERY single year. Even in both Championship years.
True that. The last 2 months of S.A. are always the best ones.
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when kobe gets healthy, ain't no team gonna stop the lakers...can u tell me exactly who from the spurs is gonna stop shaq, malone, payton, and kobe? and laker bench has improved as well...george and fisher is gonna make those outside jumpers...rush and pargo has improved their game as well...goddamn lakers are gonna fuck shit up this season...don't get me wrong..spurs is a good team and all...but they just ain't gonna beat the lakers this season...
U really relying on Malone to play all season and one of your top four? Comon, the man of getting on a bit now, plus it is gonna take him a while to get used to not having Stockton around, considering he's been playing with him for like the last ten or eleven years. Payton is still a great PG but even he is past his true best form, him and Fisher combined in that position is still gonna cause teams problems, but I can't see him being as influential as most Lakers fans seem to think he will be. It will be interesting to see who wins out in the end, but I think my money would be on the Spurs going further than the Lakers again this year definitely.
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T'wolves FOOLS....but im still cheering for my team at heart..Memphis Grizzlies 8)
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i hate the spurs for scouting shane heal.... that cunt pisses me off so hard.... they could have gotten someone else from australia, but noooo!! they had to get heal because he plays for the sydney kings, the team which brett brown used to coach for, and brett brown used to coach for the spurs.... hmm
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i like it how daygo goes around saying "who's the champs" when a year ago he'd be all "that was last year. i also love it how he says we whooped y'all last year, when a year ago he woulda said "that was last year". i also like it how he insists that the spurs were so much better than the lakers last year considering they barely won their series against phonix and had to go 6 games with a pretty physically fucked up laker squad. If last year taught us anything it is that the spurs are weak in the full court , and by looking at this year are just as weak if not weaker. i will admit the lakers HAD this problem last year , but improved with the addition of payton and the rearrangment of how we run our offense , plus it doesn't hurt that we have a healthy shaq, george, fisher, ready to go with some other key players coming back sooon.
honestly i think the spurs took a step back into where they needed to go. mercer is a notorious underacheiver and turkalu was an almost unecisary addition. y'all had a good deal of 3 point threats , so he gets lost in that bunch PLUS he makes you softer seeing as turk is not a physical or defensive minded. Horry....the only thing you gained with him this year was a good deed getting him closer to his family, i loved horry but he doesn't work in this offense. It'll be interesting to see what parker does......but i'm not sweating him much we got the glove.
Duncan......lol, funny how he only really shines when he's playing against someone not at their best.....the 2 years the spurs got eliminated.....shaq was inform and even defensively shut him down (i still remember shaq guarding duncan like he was a PG and stealing it from him) but the only time duncan could deal with shaq was in 99 (torn abs and hyperextended knee) and 03 (toe, knee, thigh, wrist, heel) The day duncan can beat a healthy shaq is the day i'll give him his dues, he hasn't so i won't, and with malone it's going to make things fucking hard.