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Title: Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: infinite59 on November 13, 2003, 02:25:05 PM
Ever studied the Mali Empire?  West African Muslim leader Mansa Musa had his people taking voyages to America long before Columbus.  Infact, in Christopher Columbus's memoirs he describes seeing, "a mosque at the top of the hill" in his encounters with the new land.  

Spanish Muslims were involved too.  If you look at the names of the people who road with Columbus many have Muslim names.  They were forced to change them due to the tyranny of Queen Isabella's Spanish Inquisition so Abu Bakr would become Bubbacarr for example.  Today the name Booker is a product of that.  That's one example.

Infact, Columbus thought the people were from India.  They brought a Muslim Arabic translators to try to speak and understand the natives.  If you look at cities many have Arabic names.  There is even a Mecca, California.  Muslims were settled here before Columbus.  

 
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Woodrow on November 13, 2003, 02:29:28 PM
Ever studied the Mali Empire?  West African Muslim leader Mansa Musa had his people taking voyages to America long before Columbus.  Infact, in Christopher Columbus's memoirs he describes seeing, "a mosque at the top of the hill" in his encounters with the new land.  

Spanish Muslims were involved too.  If you look at the names of the people who road with Columbus many have Muslim names.  They were forced to change them due to the tyranny of Queen Isabella's Spanish Inquisition so Abu Bakr would become Bubbacarr for example.  Today the name Booker is a product of that.  That's one example.

Infact, Columbus thought the people were from India.  They brought a Muslim Arabic translators to try to speak and understand the natives.  If you look at cities many have Arabic names.  There is even a Mecca, California.  Muslims were settled here before Columbus.  

 

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Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 13, 2003, 03:29:46 PM
On a side note, Spain settled in the new world, a mere 80 years after Islam was overthrown from the last Spanish towns. To think, a mere 80 years (which in the context of human civilization isnt a lot) was the difference between America being possible a Muslim colony/
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: M Dogg™ on November 13, 2003, 04:42:58 PM
Hum... interesting, might have to look more into that one.
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Trauma-san on November 13, 2003, 08:53:28 PM
Ever studied the Mali Empire?  West African Muslim leader Mansa Musa had his people taking voyages to America long before Columbus.  Infact, in Christopher Columbus's memoirs he describes seeing, "a mosque at the top of the hill" in his encounters with the new land.  

Spanish Muslims were involved too.  If you look at the names of the people who road with Columbus many have Muslim names.  They were forced to change them due to the tyranny of Queen Isabella's Spanish Inquisition so Abu Bakr would become Bubbacarr for example.  Today the name Booker is a product of that.  That's one example.

Infact, Columbus thought the people were from India.  They brought a Muslim Arabic translators to try to speak and understand the natives.  If you look at cities many have Arabic names.  There is even a Mecca, California.  Muslims were settled here before Columbus.  

 

Cool.  The Mayans were here before that.  They worshipped the sun and sacrificed virgins.
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: UnstoppableForce on November 13, 2003, 11:09:41 PM
Ever studied the Mali Empire?  West African Muslim leader Mansa Musa had his people taking voyages to America long before Columbus.  Infact, in Christopher Columbus's memoirs he describes seeing, "a mosque at the top of the hill" in his encounters with the new land.  

Spanish Muslims were involved too.  If you look at the names of the people who road with Columbus many have Muslim names.  They were forced to change them due to the tyranny of Queen Isabella's Spanish Inquisition so Abu Bakr would become Bubbacarr for example.  Today the name Booker is a product of that.  That's one example.

Infact, Columbus thought the people were from India.  They brought a Muslim Arabic translators to try to speak and understand the natives.  If you look at cities many have Arabic names.  There is even a Mecca, California.  Muslims were settled here before Columbus.  

 

Cool.  The Mayans were here before that.  They worshipped the sun and sacrificed virgins.

Your point?
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on November 14, 2003, 05:02:52 AM
Romans,Vikings and Chinese have also been there before Columbus.Also, some of the statues of the Olmecs (a mexican tribe) posess negroid faces.

The other way around,some Indians apparently reached France in the Roman Time.....they got to give a live performance in the Roman arena,the poor chaps. :-\
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Eidolon_Ravi on November 14, 2003, 05:28:13 AM
Ever studied the Mali Empire?  West African Muslim leader Mansa Musa had his people taking voyages to America long before Columbus.  Infact, in Christopher Columbus's memoirs he describes seeing, "a mosque at the top of the hill" in his encounters with the new land.  

Spanish Muslims were involved too.  If you look at the names of the people who road with Columbus many have Muslim names.  They were forced to change them due to the tyranny of Queen Isabella's Spanish Inquisition so Abu Bakr would become Bubbacarr for example.  Today the name Booker is a product of that.  That's one example.

Infact, Columbus thought the people were from India.  They brought a Muslim Arabic translators to try to speak and understand the natives.  If you look at cities many have Arabic names.  There is even a Mecca, California.  Muslims were settled here before Columbus.  

 

Cool.  The Mayans were here before that.  They worshipped the sun and sacrificed virgins.

 Great, But the settlers did even better than that..
  Did u know about the SALEM WITCH HUNT.
 
   Aw.. c'mon Trauma.. u don't have to be so sentimentally attached to all the Caucasians who lived/living in America. Try using ur head sumtimes
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Trauma-san on November 14, 2003, 06:16:17 AM
What are yall talking about?  Infinite was just talking about the history of the Americas, I added a little bit of fact to it.  What's wrong with that?
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: AWS SS 88 on November 14, 2003, 12:51:50 PM
infinite...........who cares? other than you and tech of course.
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: UnstoppableForce on November 14, 2003, 09:16:05 PM
What are yall talking about?  Infinite was just talking about the history of the Americas, I added a little bit of fact to it.  What's wrong with that?


Here is a nother fact: The first white settlers from England resorted to cannibalism. Civilized, huh?
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Don Jacob on November 14, 2003, 10:51:21 PM
arabians wipe their asses with their hand.....
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: smerlus on November 14, 2003, 11:01:12 PM
who cares who visited the place first? the fucking indians lived there...why don't you go on some more bullshit and tell us who was the first to visit china, or the first to visit euro disney...

why are you on here pumping your pro muslim bullshit and calling the rest of us stupid and cannibals? yeah i'd like to become a muslim now, sign me up  ;D

and who cares who ate who or who wiped their ass with what? i don't eat people and i use toilet paper.

the japanese invaded china and made the chinese fuck thier own families at gun point and then killed them......does that make all japanese people bad


YES!


but other than them personaly i've never know a slave, or a suicide bomber, a jew thats run over towel heads in a tank, a canibalistic ass cracker, or some shitty handed person....

so fuck all these needless history lesson, we're not on jeopardy. your don't get to wager what little money you probably have, so continue to fill your head with useless knowledge.


hear want some more dumb ass facts?

Did you know the first bicycle that was made in 1817 by Baron von Drais didn't have any pedals? People walked it along
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 15, 2003, 11:12:08 AM
arabians wipe their asses with their hand.....

gets the job done better than toilet paper
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Woodrow on November 15, 2003, 01:58:20 PM
arabians wipe their asses with their hand.....

gets the job done better than toilet paper

I guess if we ever meet, I'll just give you the pound then  ;)
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 16, 2003, 11:06:48 AM
lol


*pats Engle on the back for a job well done*
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: M Dogg™ on November 16, 2003, 11:13:33 PM


Cool.  The Mayans were here before that.  They worshipped the sun and sacrificed virgins.

Actually that is not true. THe Spanish used to lie about the Natives here, to show how un-Christain they are, to justify warring with them, and conquering their empire. In reality the Mayan Empire it was very hard to find virgins. They believed hardcore into pre-marrital sex, and believe that the best way to find a good partner was to sleep around. I can imagion how hard it would be to find a virgin in that culture. But if you want to, you could try. Also, Aztecs, or Mexicas as the real name is, used to have strict sex laws, that if you had sex before marriage, both man and woman would get stoned to death, or chased out the village. Though the Mexica had some of the most advance mathmatical solution at that time, and did a number of things to advance what Europeans already had in math with what they learned here. Mexicas and Mayans both where advance Empires, and many great minds where put together. Neither were canibals, and neither sacrified virgins, though animal sacrific did happen sometimes. Also, The Mexica had one main god, some other gods too, but one main one that can tranform shapes. He was suppose to comeback on a certain day from the Ocean, and on that day Cortez arrived, so they were expecting a god, and got Cortez... who they believed was a god because he brought diseases. So just do a better job of educating yourself on TRUE American history and cultures. Hell, Native Americans biggest cause of losing their land was not war, and white people killing them, it was small pox (that should be easy.) And in fact there is not history of other Native tribes sacrificing virgins, but at the same time the Native tribes were less "civilized" than the Empires of the Americas, Mexica, Mayan and Inca. So take that for what you will.
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: Don Jacob on November 17, 2003, 12:07:05 AM
huh?^ aztecs DID make human sacrifices.....there's a whole big ass temple/pyramid thing in mexico city where they have the slab where they would lay the body on and let the blood drain out through this canal thingy.
Title: Re:Muslims were in America way before Columbus
Post by: M Dogg™ on November 17, 2003, 08:19:37 AM
huh?^ aztecs DID make human sacrifices.....there's a whole big ass temple/pyramid thing in mexico city where they have the slab where they would lay the body on and let the blood drain out through this canal thingy.

Nah dogg, animal sacrifies. I was doing research. But who knows, though from what I gather it wasn't human. AS for Mayans like Trauma said, as I said, good luck finding a virgin, main point of the agruement since he was talking out his ass. And finally, neither one ate humans, huge told by the Spanish to make the Natives look un-Christians. Of course the huge Empires were  non-Christian, Christianity hadn't been introducted yet.