West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: pappy on November 17, 2003, 08:12:35 PM
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john gotti did more for queens ny especially ozone park, south ozone park, woodhaven, an howard beach than the gov't or city of new york ever did but gotti gets life in prison. gotti gets life an that area of queens new york turns into a shithole an the city dont do shit about it. an now its a shithole. god bless the american gov't an justice system an city of new york ::)
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Yeah, boy, we should let criminals free if they do good things. Come on. You need to examine your priorities, and think about who your heros really are. Bin Ladin did a lot for Afganistan too, that doesn't mean he's a great guy.
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john gotti did more for queens ny especially ozone park, south ozone park, woodhaven, an howard beach than the gov't or city of new york ever did but gotti gets life in prison. gotti gets life an that area of queens new york turns into a shithole an the city dont do shit about it. an now its a shithole. god bless the american gov't an justice system an city of new york ::)
yeah he did all that good stuff, but he also did a lot of bad stuff too. you can't kill somebody and then take a bum off the street the same day and hope the good crosses out the bad.
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john gotti did more for queens ny especially ozone park, south ozone park, woodhaven, an howard beach than the gov't or city of new york ever did but gotti gets life in prison. gotti gets life an that area of queens new york turns into a shithole an the city dont do shit about it. an now its a shithole. god bless the american gov't an justice system an city of new york ::)
yeah he did all that good stuff, but he also did a lot of bad stuff too. you can't kill somebody and then take a bum off the street the same day and hope the good crosses out the bad.
who was he killing. he wasnt killin innocent people. the people that died were in the cosa nostra. they knew how the life was. they knew the rules
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^^ Tom, the united states can't let people play vigilante on the streets no matter who they're killing. It's against the law to kill, it doesn't matter who you kill. If you had owed him money, he would have killed you too.
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^^ Tom, the united states can't let people play vigilante on the streets no matter who they're killing. It's against the law to kill, it doesn't matter who you kill. If you had owed him money, he would have killed you too.
hey you kno who your borrowing money from. if u did u bought it upon yourself. an hey when he was in charge a 70 year old woman could walk the street 1 in the mouring an not worry cuz people knew better than to come into gotti's territory. hell it was like that for where most organize crime families. hell now 70 year old woman dont feel safe walking in broad day light now
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what mafia family did he rule or claim or whatever again? and do they have movies about him?
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^^ Tom, the united states can't let people play vigilante on the streets no matter who they're killing. It's against the law to kill, it doesn't matter who you kill. If you had owed him money, he would have killed you too.
hey you kno who your borrowing money from. if u did u bought it upon yourself. an hey when he was in charge a 70 year old woman could walk the street 1 in the mouring an not worry cuz people knew better than to come into gotti's territory. hell it was like that for where most organize crime families. hell now 70 year old woman dont feel safe walking in broad day light now
So, then, you have no problem with the government coming into your neighborhood and torturing and killing people who are late with their rent payment? You know you'd be the first in line trying to get Bush assasinated. What's the difference?
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what mafia family did he rule or claim or whatever again? and do they have movies about him?
he ruled the gambino crime family took over in 1985 when he knocked off paul castllano the than leader of the gambino crime family outside sparks steakhouse in mahattan. theres a made for tv movie about gotti. i never saw it but i heard it sucks cuz a lot of shit was made up
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^^ Tom, the united states can't let people play vigilante on the streets no matter who they're killing. It's against the law to kill, it doesn't matter who you kill. If you had owed him money, he would have killed you too.
hey you kno who your borrowing money from. if u did u bought it upon yourself. an hey when he was in charge a 70 year old woman could walk the street 1 in the mouring an not worry cuz people knew better than to come into gotti's territory. hell it was like that for where most organize crime families. hell now 70 year old woman dont feel safe walking in broad day light now
So, then, you have no problem with the government coming into your neighborhood and torturing and killing people who are late with their rent payment? You know you'd be the first in line trying to get Bush assasinated. What's the difference?
you know absolutly nothing about the mafia it aint even funny lol.
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what mafia family did he rule or claim or whatever again? and do they have movies about him?
he ruled the gambino crime family took over in 1985 when he knocked off paul castllano the than leader of the gambino crime family outside sparks steakhouse in mahattan. theres a made for tv movie about gotti. i never saw it but i heard it sucks cuz a lot of shit was made up
yeah i heard about that family, imma get sum Mafia Movies...
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Bugsy Sigel was better...
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^^ Tom, the united states can't let people play vigilante on the streets no matter who they're killing. It's against the law to kill, it doesn't matter who you kill. If you had owed him money, he would have killed you too.
hey you kno who your borrowing money from. if u did u bought it upon yourself. an hey when he was in charge a 70 year old woman could walk the street 1 in the mouring an not worry cuz people knew better than to come into gotti's territory. hell it was like that for where most organize crime families. hell now 70 year old woman dont feel safe walking in broad day light now
So, then, you have no problem with the government coming into your neighborhood and torturing and killing people who are late with their rent payment? You know you'd be the first in line trying to get Bush assasinated. What's the difference?
you know absolutly nothing about the mafia it aint even funny lol.
I know they kill people for money. That shit ain't right. He became a leader by killing somebody. That shit ain't right. I guess bush should have just paid to have Clinton killed, right? That's how you get power?
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Yeah, boy, we should let criminals free if they do good things. Come on. You need to examine your priorities, and think about who your heros really are. Bin Ladin did a lot for Afganistan too, that doesn't mean he's a great guy.
damn...the Earth just stopped spinning! lol I actually agree with Trauma on this one.
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oh yea trauma about the rent thing. i work with an older woman an she was also from ozone park. she used to rent an apartment from john gotti. if she didnt have the money one month gotti would give her a little cushion cuz he knew she was struggling to get by. now gotti only hurt you if you borrowed money from him an were using for gambling or drugs or u couldnt pay your rent cuz of drugs an gambling
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if he was such an evil guy how come people felt so safe when he was running ozone park. how come he did more for that aread in 10 years than the city of new york has ever done. how come everything that was done since his incarciration has been un-done plus some
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Killing is killing...It's against the law.
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LMAO. They're killing for a good cause man. Gangs in LA should start using that, "we are trying to protect the kids and women in our neighborhood so we shoot anyone that crosses our turf...we're just trying to help the police"
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you talk like he killed 100's. he was responsible for about 20 murders. an it wasnt innocent people either. it was people that were involved in that life an knew how it was. an to show how much the us govt gives a shit about people. they werent trying to lock gotti up for murder. they wanted to lock him up b/c of the RICO laws. long story short, govt was losing money. its hard to describe but if convicted gotti would of done life in prison with no parole. they didnt have enough to charge gotti with that. but on tapes they had gotti's right hand man sammy the bull on tape admitting to murders he committed. sammy facing life in prison decided to become a rat to save his ass so they charged gotti with the murders b/c they coudlnt get him on the RICO laws. If it never came down to money the govt would of gave 2 fucks about john gotti. they dont give a fuck about who was dying b/c they knew that when some1 died it wasnt a innocent person. it was some1 who lived that life. the govt didnt give 2 fucks about the people. it was all about money
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also if hes so evil why are there thousands of people that look at him like hes a god an still do
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also if hes so evil why are there thousands of people that look at him like hes a god an still do
Thousands of people still look up to Hitler.
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also if hes so evil why are there thousands of people that look at him like hes a god an still do
Thousands of people still look up to Hitler.
dont compare a great man like john gotti to hitler
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also if hes so evil why are there thousands of people that look at him like hes a god an still do
Because thousands of people think it's cool to be a gangster...
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wat happened 2 sam the bull? he still livin? or he on witness protection shit prolly huh
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How has Ozone Park gone to hell??
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wat happened 2 sam the bull? he still livin? or he on witness protection shit prolly huh
hes doin 20 years for running an extacy ring in arizona
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How has Ozone Park gone to hell??
the indians an arabs bought one family houses an turned them into boarding houses. the neighborhood looks like shit now. all the shit that used to go on back in the day no longer goes on. like once a year they used to have this huge ass feast. it was actually called the feast lol. they dont have it no more. every 4th of july gotti had a firework show. no more. Back in the day even tho crime was higher than it is now you still felt safe b/c the crime that was goin on was organized crime. now u gotta watch back all the time. there was always stuff goin on. you could go out 3 in the mouring an u could find people chillin on there stoop. now its like a ghost town. there used to be so much goin on. now its dead an wreaks of curry. it is the definition of a shit hole
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^^ Tom, the united states can't let people play vigilante on the streets no matter who they're killing. It's against the law to kill, it doesn't matter who you kill. If you had owed him money, he would have killed you too.
hey you kno who your borrowing money from. if u did u bought it upon yourself. an hey when he was in charge a 70 year old woman could walk the street 1 in the mouring an not worry cuz people knew better than to come into gotti's territory. hell it was like that for where most organize crime families. hell now 70 year old woman dont feel safe walking in broad day light now
So, then, you have no problem with the government coming into your neighborhood and torturing and killing people who are late with their rent payment? You know you'd be the first in line trying to get Bush assasinated. What's the difference?
you know absolutly nothing about the mafia it aint even funny lol.
I know they kill people for money. That shit ain't right. He became a leader by killing somebody. That shit ain't right. I guess bush should have just paid to have Clinton killed, right? That's how you get power?
alot of ppl were not happy with big paul within the gambino family due to three main reasons
1) he was neva in the street so didn't understand it fully, which made made his soldier feal he was out of touch and weak.
2) The general change in mafioso's attitudes. the old conservative values no longer existed in that world. things like no drug dealing rules, loyalty (everyone turning government witness when they face a spot of bird) etc. Costallano understood and respected these values which came back from sicily but the americanised (puttin money first) soldiers and capos didn't respect them.
3) he was named boss by gambino who many people were upset with as most ppl espected dellacose (i forget his exact name so could be wrong) who was the underboss to become boss. Naming a sucessor is a dodgy way of doing things the best way is to get the capos to vote on a leader. On a side note when dellacose died i believe big paul named his schauffer as under boss or somink crazy like that.
also the other new york families wern't happy with paul over a cement scam (they imposed a tax on cement) they were running together because he was sciming extra money for himself.
ANd for those who think the mafia is so bad i suggest your read joe bonano's autobiography and his son's bill bonano (those are their translated american names their real names are guiseppi and salvator) It really goes into the true values of the mafia before it got americanised, mafia politics, and the extent the law enforcement angencies (two fbi agebts started a bombing campain on his house after he retired when it all came out they were given a slap on the wrist and dismissed. another incident was when the good old mayor ex mayor of NY was coming up he tried to get some publicity by leading the comission case which was based on nothing joe was in very bad health and was unable to attend so they baught the court room to his bed and i think he was done on a bullshit charge at the time he had been retired for some time and hadn't taken part in the commission since the 60s this was in the 80s). i mite add joe bonano was boss of the bonano family since the late 20s till the late 60s when he retired up intill after he was retired he was never charged with anything. he was the voice of reason on the commision and helped keep the peace on many occassions.
two of the best books i've ever read.