West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: R-Tistic on November 23, 2003, 03:51:24 PM
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Alright...this is tha thread where u basically jus let it all out. Let people kno what u think, how u feel, about whatever related to west coast rap, or rap in general, even tho most people might disagree with you, or even think u are stupid, young, brainwashed, etc. etc. Try to limit your comments about other people's lists because it will take the thread a different direction, but if u agree with somebody, then let em kno they ain't alone.
You might think I'm crazy, but....
-I'd rather listen to "Dre Day" than "Nuthin but a G thang"
-Snoop is nowhere near the best lyricists in rap, but his delivery, charisma, personality, flow, and voice will keep him near the top of the rap game.
-DJ Quik IS a better musician than Dre, but Dre has made more classic songs, and has been part of more classic albums.
-The West Coast will NOT become as big as it was before off of Gangsta Rap. Gangsta rap had such a big impact because nobody had done it before. Therefore, I think they will have to come with a different style and sound of rap to get to where they were before, as they did when they first blew up.
-I think Crooked I and Ras Kass may be the best lyricists from the West, but the only way they will ever appeal to the entire country and blow up as 50 Cent, Snoop, and the rest have, is if they simplify their style and come up with catchy shit, which may not be a good thing.
-I think Bad Azz has the mostpotential to be the next big west coast artist, but his name holds him back in some ways as far as commercial appeal may go..
-Daz is a weak producer now, but I think he has one of the best deliveries and flows in hip hop, period.
-I think Suge is holdin Crooked I captive, and probably threatened his ass to death if he EVER wanted to leave death row. So the reason Crooked I reps death row so hard is because he knows he can't leave, not because he really wants to be there. Why the fuck would u wanna be with a dead company that is never gonna blow up again, and wont even release u?
Now yall, DROP ya lists.
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-Just because you haven't recorded an album doesn't mean you're not a better emcee than someone who has an album out.
-DJ Khalil is the producer the West will look to in a few years. Now that he's with Aftermath, people will begin to slob all over his dick.
-All these old gangsta acts need to stop. If you're still on some 92 shit, you need to quit the game.
-The Dogg Pound only has one dope member, that's Bad Azz. The rest are all washed up has-beens who need to stop making such garbage music.
-Crooked I needs to make more music with Sly Boogy, Ras Kass and the Wake Up Show crew.
-The West will never succeed if people only check names that ring bells. People need to venture out and listen to new emcees, not just wait for Snoop and Dre to introduce someone.
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I got a few too
- Too many people look up to Snoop like he's some "Westcoast God" or something, to me hes just aight right now, theres is no comparison to the way he was when he was with Death Row.
- Crooked I is not the savior of the west coast, hes a good lyricist and dope and all but he wont blow up and especially not now since he hasnt released an album in like 1003240934843038322308 years
- Xzibit should go back and work with the Liks and the Likwit crew
- Ras Kass is the MC King of the West but he wont blow up because of his label situation
- E White IS NOT THE NEXT SNOOP
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*Tha Doggfather shit all over doggystyle
*Tha Last Meal had some of snoops best tracks on it
*Deathrow sucks balls
*Terrorist Threats is not bow down, but damn close
*The War & Peace discs were ice cubes best albums besides westside connection's albums
*Snoop is a shitty actor, bones made me feel dumber watching it
*True crime is not as good of a game as ppl say
*Daz's beef with kurupt is fucking stupid
*Kurupt may not rhyme like he did in the dogg pound days lyrically...but his flow is much better.
*TQ & Cash Money do not mix...but TQ's made some damn fucking great music for his new album coming out in february
*Mauzip is not gay. he's just conceded.
*Pink is not a whore...she's just virgin impared
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...Soul On Ice and Regulate...G Funk Era are highly overrated here.
...the mainstream is better than the underground.
...Eminem is a good producer.
...2003 is hip-hop's best year since 1996.
...Xzibit's best album is Restless.
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...Eminem is a good producer.
...2003 is hip-hop's best year since 1996.
...Xzibit's best album is Restless.
Damn Right!
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- he wont blow up and especially not now since he hasnt released an album in like 1003240934843038322308 years
how is it Icon's fault that HIS LABELS aren't putting out his albums? Virgin fucked up, now Deathrow is fucking up. To count that against him is lame.
...Soul On Ice highly overrated here.
...Xzibit's best album is Restless
What!? I'm bumping Soul On Ice right now, in no way is overrated. It's the West Coast Illmatic. Point blank.
Restless wasn't that hot.
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~As long as WestCoast radio plays the SHIT outta 50 Cent, Jay-Z, and all this other shit...and wont give local artist airtime..the west aint gonna do shit.
~Snoop has lost ANY street credibility he ever had in Kali, and will never be respected as before.
~Underground artists this year in Kali have put out 100 times better albums then the mainstreem ones.
*agreein wit SGV* People need to open they ears to other shit out here. Daygo and the Bay been droppin strait HEAT all year, yall betta not sleep. LA got the money and marketing to back they shit, but their quality been slackin..
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*agreein wit SGV* People need to open they ears to other shit out here. Daygo and the Bay been droppin strait HEAT all year, yall betta not sleep. LA got the money and marketing to back they shit, but their quality been slackin..
Yup! The Handgunners mixtapes that Mitchy put out are better than any mixtape put out from the West all year. People sleep on Daygo.
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-Daz is a weak producer now, but I think he has one of the best deliveries and flows in hip hop, period.
i agree with the part about his flow
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What!? I'm bumping Soul On Ice right now, in no way is overrated. It's the West Coast Illmatic. Point blank.
That's why I think it's overrated here.
"West Coast Illmatic"??? The production on Illmatic is WAY better than Soul On Ice. It's like a 10/10 compared to a 6/10, productionwise. I like Ras Kass, I actually listened to Soul On Ice more recently that Illmatic but I can't ever put these two LPs on the same level.
Restless wasn't that hot.
That's why some people might think I'm crazy, cause I think it's his best album. I never thought that he "sold out" and I'm not going to hold it against him that he's more popular.
There are only two songs I don't feel from that album.
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That's why I think it's overrated here.
"West Coast Illmatic"??? The production on Illmatic is WAY better than Soul On Ice. It's like a 10/10 compared to a 6/10, productionwise. I like Ras Kass, I actually listened to Soul On Ice more recently that Illmatic but I can't ever put these two LPs on the same level.
That's why some people might think I'm crazy, cause I think it's his best album. I never thought that he "sold out" and I'm not going to hold it against him that he's more popular.
There are only two songs I don't feel from that album.
Everyone cites Illmatic as the tutorial for East Coast lyricism. That's how I cite Soul On Ice. Lyrically, it's top 5. The beats weren't bad. Amateurish, yes, but they still had a dope vibe.
As for Restless. I really didn't think it had more than 5 bangers. "Alkaholik, "D-n-A," "Rimz n Tirez," "Sorry I'm Away So Much" and the track with King Tee. Aside from that, everything else was :-\ 40 Dayz is my favorite X album. It was nothing but raw lyricism without the bullshit. Not to mention, this is the album that got Xzibit single of the year on BET.
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A few from me...
- Both Eminem and Lil' Jon are top producers in the game today.
- I don't believe half of this "Dre doesn't do his own shit" bullshit. Greatest producer ever. Period.
- Eminem will slaughter any emcee that opposes him.
- Suge Knight needs to retire. Tha Row is filled with talent, yet all the fat man puts out is greatest hits and remix albums.
- The 213 album is gonna be soooooo wack.
- Although it's without Pac's consent and approval, all of the re-done Pac music we've been gettin' since the late nineties is still better than almost everything else.
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Great topic...
- Dr. Dre puts no emotion into his music anymore. Yes his beats are often 'dope' but I really can't feel any of his personality in them. Starting to wonder if I ever could, its all so clinical.
- Suga Free deserves a platinum record.
- Snoop should retire. Soon.
- DJ Quik should NEVER retire from music
- West Coast artist should stop trying to blow up off of mixtapes just because 50 cent did. It isn't working, 90% of mixtapes suck. Please stop.
- Yukmouth should of made a lot of money off of Godzilla. Kidnap U is a great radio track and Stuntastic is better than that G-Unit crap Stunt 101...
- G-Unit are crap, and possibly the goofiest looking rap crew ever.
- Nate Dogg has become really boring over the past few years. He cannot seem to make a solo hit.
- People should stop raping Tupac's songs to get money or recognition. I'm looking at you Afeni. Looking at you Em. Looking at you Vlad. Just stop it.
- Jay-Z is the most overrated rapper of all time.
- Everybody in the world should look to Andre 3000 for inspiration.
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- Dre doesn't steal music, he just produces the traditional way. Same way as Quincy Jones does.
- I like restless more than 40 days. 40 days was on another level lyrically, but restless bangs.
- The only thing the west needs to blow up is promotion. Gangsta Rap will still sell, they just need promotion.
- Moment of Clarity is one of the most boring beats I've heard in a long long time. Em is still a good producer tho.
-50 cent and Ja Rule are on the same level skill wise.
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Rap music is not gonna get better, only worse.
We have already heard the best rap albums we will ever hear.
The west does not have a lot of young talent.
the dpg beef right now is the dumbest beef rap has ever seen.
Eastcoast actually makes some good music.
Lil Jon and Bonecrusher are the 2 most annoying rappers ever.
Crooked I is NOT as good as he was before he signed to deathrow.
213 will not come out
lil c-style's album will be one of the best gangsta/g-funk album in years. Probably my fav album of the last couple of years. Most everyone will sleep on him though.
Lil C-style should replace snoop in the eastsiders
jayo felony does not fit damizza and baby ree production
Da low lifes really need to drop an album soon! It will be one of the hottest in years I bet!
Nocturnal Hustlaz are some of the most lyrical rappers out there
I agree with:
SAS is the best mixtapes out there along with mitchy slicks guns and ammo tapes
Xzibits restless album is very hot! Only 1 or 2 songs I don't like much. A lot of heaters.
Snoop should retire.
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-Thinks Bizzy Bone is the best rapper ever :D
-Thinks Tray Deee is the best from the West Coast right now
-Cant wait for the new WSC
-Use to think people who said Snoop Dogg was played out were stupid but now its true!
-Think Eazy E has one of the best voices in rap
-Thinks Heavons Movie is the best album to ever drop
thats about it for now!
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Im sick of people talking shit about all these artists and acting like they know them personally.
Thats all I want to say.
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Im sick of people talking shit about all these artists and acting like they know them personally.
Thats all I want to say.
I didn't read everyone's list, but I don't think anyone really was talkin' shit. Just stating they opinion.
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I didn't read everyone's list, but I don't think anyone really was talkin' shit. Just stating they opinion.
Look at due's Avatar and Sig. That'll help you figure at why he's a little pissy.
The moment you say ONE bad thing about Snoop, due gets upset.
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I didn't read everyone's list, but I don't think anyone really was talkin' shit. Just stating they opinion.
Look at due's Avatar and Sig. That'll help you figure at why he's a little pissy.
The moment you say ONE bad thing about Snoop, due gets upset.
Haha. That's what I figured but I didn't wanna start an arguement. No need in arguing when everyone else will most likely take your side.
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Haha. That's what I figured but I didn't wanna start an arguement. No need in arguing when everyone else will most likely take your side.
I get you. I just like to point out those kind of things. It makes the internet more enjoyable.
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Look at due's Avatar and Sig. That'll help you figure at why he's a little pissy.
The moment you say ONE bad thing about Snoop, due gets upset.
Its just the fact that you people are always like "Snoop should do this and Snoop should do that and the thing is that its all about music....Alota peeps on this board need to realize that we listen to music for sound, but people actually get caught up in other peoples lives and problems and then they start acting like they know the people they are talking about....
People on a webiste calling Snoop a bitch and talking shit about him is pitiful IMO when the fact is that Youve never been to jail, on trial for murder, never fucked countless bithces or held onto millions of dollars or been in movies and tv shows or been around the world...Your boss was never Suge Knight and you more than likely never seen one of your closest homies get murderd.
Snoop dont make the kinda music he used to, but someone whos open minded and listens to a variety of music can appreciate the shit hes doing....But at the end of the day, its just music.
I dont feel people should be calling someone a sellout or a bitch because they dont like the music they are making....Thats pathetic IMO.
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represent has the worst taste in music on this board so you gotta excuse him on his snoop dickrideing! ::)
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R-tistic I agree with about everything you say here, except I don't see the big deal with Bad Azz (he IS tight, but there's a dozen emcees on his level out west), and I think back when Crook was reppin the row so hard (last year and before) he prob. actually believed his own hype, and trusted Suge. I agree with all the rest of it.
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represent has the worst taste in music on this board so you gotta excuse him on his snoop dickrideing! ::)
Who the fuck are you? Get off my nuts you little fuck.
My taste in music runs deep, like your moms pussy!
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represent has the worst taste in music on this board so you gotta excuse him on his snoop dickrideing! ::)
Who the fuck are you? Get off my nuts you little fuck.
My taste in music runs deep, like your moms pussy!
that elementary diss hurt me! :'(
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and you should know who i am u use to diss me for no reason just like licolen
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*Hits sarcasm button
Gee, not only do we get to see prepubescents diss each other over the internet, but many of them don't even speak english as a first language!!!
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***Can y'all please try to keep the beef and personal shit out tha thread? Kinda kills the flow and everything. I am one of tha peeps that ain't on here to diss anybody's taste or bitch about anybody else, so keep this shit goin in tha right way***
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FUCK SNOOP DOGG
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* Em would destroy any MC that opposes him
* G-Unit are wack bar a few song and will be forgotten within 18 months
* Westcoast MCs need to reinvent gangsta rap
* Redman is the greatest MC ever
* Had Biggie dropped another album, he would be above Redman!
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Great topic...
- Dr. Dre puts no emotion into his music anymore. Yes his beats are often 'dope' but I really can't feel any of his personality in them. Starting to wonder if I ever could, its all so clinical.
- Suga Free deserves a platinum record.
- Snoop should retire. Soon.
- DJ Quik should NEVER retire from music
- West Coast artist should stop trying to blow up off of mixtapes just because 50 cent did. It isn't working, 90% of mixtapes suck. Please stop.
- Yukmouth should of made a lot of money off of Godzilla. Kidnap U is a great radio track and Stuntastic is better than that G-Unit crap Stunt 101...
- G-Unit are crap, and possibly the goofiest looking rap crew ever.
- Nate Dogg has become really boring over the past few years. He cannot seem to make a solo hit.
- People should stop raping Tupac's songs to get money or recognition. I'm looking at you Afeni. Looking at you Em. Looking at you Vlad. Just stop it.
- Jay-Z is the most overrated rapper of all time.
- Everybody in the world should look to Andre 3000 for inspiration.
I agree with most of this...The Jay Z part especially lol. BUT...i know where the WestCoast artists are comin from with the mixtapes. It might sound like a bad idea...but record labels actually really pay attention to mixtapes, and it IS one of the best avenues to "blow up" in the game right now.
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Oh...one more...
~Freestylin is cool and all...but people are puttin TOO much weight on it. You wont become a platinum rapper cus u can freestyle lol. You have to be able to actually WRITE a song in order to make an album. Freestylin is cool, and fun to watch, fun to do...and shows that u think fast, but youll never make a whole album of just freestyles...
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You might think I'm crazy, but....
*Nas, is the most overratted MC ever.
*"Illmatic" can't fuck with "Doe or die" {Az)
*Shady/Aftermath groupies ruined hip-hop
*Eminem has dethroned MJ as the "King of pop"
*The Source is still the best hip-hop related magazine around regardless of what the kiddies were programmed to say & think.
*Pussies get fucked...
*takin' sum shot's in the mouth will make you a superstar.
more later...{4 u baby!!}
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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You might think I'm crazy, but....
*Nas, is the most overratted MC ever.
*"Illmatic" can't fuck with "Doe or die" {Az)
*Shady/Aftermath groupies ruined hip-hop
*Eminem has dethroned MJ as the "King of pop"
*The Source is still the best hip-hop related magazine around regardless of what the kiddies were programmed to say & think.
*Pussies get fucked...
*takin' sum shot's in the mouth will make you a superstar.
more later...{4 u baby!!}
Hatesrats 2oooTre
Now this is the first list that I think is totally crazy 8)
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- After everything that has happened - I hate Aftermath but respect Shady Records. I used to hate Shady and like Aftermath. It's funny how things change.
- Warren G is one of the best producers out there and he deserves to be up there with names like Dr. Dre, P Diddy and Neptunes.
- Though I really like Snoop Dogg's work and he has released great songs from 92 up until now - the only album of his that I think deserved my money was Doggystyle. I do on the other hand own all of Warren G's albums, all of Xzibit's, all of Cube's (excluding greatest hits)
- Ice Cube is the most replayable and still talented "big" West Coast artist
- Eminem is a great producer and great emcee who I hated pre-Eminem Show.
- Obie Trice deserves to be in 50 Cent's position more then 50 Cent.
- Ghetto Heisman is the best West Coast album since Dre's 2001 (note: i may have to think about this a lil harder but can't be bothered at the moment)
- Eazy-E's track Boyz In The Hood is a timeless classic.
- Artists like Time Bomb, Knoc-Turn'AL, Hittman, Crooked I etc. should be releasing tracks on mixtapes as much as G Unit
- While I believe 2Pac is overrated - Not Eminem, 50 Cent, Crooked I or Jay-Z should be doin covers/remixs with them featuring of his songs. i hate COVERS! Ja Rule and Xzibit have murdered Toto's Africa and should be charged.
- Michael Jackson deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life
- MUSIC IS DEAD! and has been since the mid 90's - its last peak was 91/92/93 - want proof? listen/watch any chart show - though i do believe it can be revived again - listen to the latest stuff from Snoop Dogg, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam, Metallica etc in comparison to their earlier stuff
that is all.
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~ ice cube should stop movies just for 4-6 months and just focus on one last cd
~ wish the geto boys would get back together
~ hopes that music is really shitty and that my taste hasn't changed because i don't really enjoy cd's like i did since 2001 came out
~ ALL the beefs on the west should cease it's fucking stupid and childish.....it's not going to escalate to the 2pac and biggie's death level.... and the majority of people don't even know who soopafly, jayo felony, tray deee, kurupt, daz dillinger are so this beef isn't going to make them any more popular
~ wish dre had more westcoast pride....if aftermath was a westcoast lable....oooh weeee
~ to add to that, just wish westcoast in general showed more live and got together like in that sly boogy video
~ oh and fuck what anyone else think....snoop needs to hang it up with his tired ass
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*Dr. Dre is the next act to sign to Shady.... ;)
{Irony....lol}
*Jimmy is Aftermath And Dre is/was/always been just a name
*Obie Trice was a flop...(come on admit it)
{Ure' Shady fan club card's will not be re-voked...}
*Eminem is great at producing the same beat over & over
*Detox is never gonna be what "2001" was..
*Glad Rakim never dropped on that bullshit label...
*King Tee was the 2nd greatest rapper ever on a Aftermath contract
*"Illmatic" is still very over-rated.
A couple more...(4U)
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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*Not even the beats saved G-Unit's wack attempt
*Daz is 50 cent's #1 fan
*50 cent has pulled and Eminem on Em.
(Like Em did to Dre....
it's called bumpin' them outta the water)
*Obie Trice bombed...lol
*Az killz Nas....
*The Firm should have been an instrumental release insted..
more later...
*"Illmatic" is still a very boring album with a guest apperence that kills anything Nas attempted on the rest.
More 4 U :-*
Hatesrats 2oooTre (On the tip)
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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* Judging by his guest appearances, Jadakiss can not be fucked with right now
* "Oh!" by Obie f/ Busta is one of the dopest songs this year
* 9th Wonder will be the most saught after producer within the next year
* MJ is innocent
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- Snoop needs to retire big time
- I enjoy the production on "Soul On Ice"
- Ice Cube's only decent album was "Amerikkas Most Wanted"
- 9th Wonder will be the "big" producer next year
- "Life After Death" is an average at best album
- Jurassic 5 are actually pretty boring
- DPG is wack right now
- Warren G needs to be doing more production
- Eminem is a wack producer
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*Aftermath/Shady ruined hiphop big time for some people [Haterats] who will never again have the time to focus on shit they like
*MJ is innocent
*Eklypss needs to release a solo
*Grym Reaper should have released a solo
*Atmosphere is as underrated as it gets
*Jay-Z's music is overrated
*Shabazz The Disciple's album was one of the best this year
*biatchez need to stop dissing people for attention all the time, it makes them look pathetic as hell
*if the production's right the M.O.P. album will be tha shit
*Em needs to do a few tracks in his old style again (Role Model)
*Swift is very underrated
*DMX' album was dissappointing big time (not sayin it's wack or there ain't no dope tracks)
*peeps need to stop caring so much about where an artist is from
*Tecca Nina is the best rapper in the industry
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***Can y'all please try to keep the beef and personal shit out tha thread? Kinda kills the flow and everything. I am one of tha peeps that ain't on here to diss anybody's taste or bitch about anybody else, so keep this shit goin in tha right way***
Just to let you know, I did not ruin your thread....I dropped my opinion and got blasted by 3 different people for it. I swear its a sin if you like Snoops music around here.... ::)
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- the DPG is the most over-rated clique in the music industry
- Snoop, like Eddie Murphy, hasn't dropped anything good since 1996
- Kurupt was 110% right for goin back to Death Row
- by next year people will think of 50 cent the same way they think of Ja Rule
- the feds really need to find a hobby besides trying to get Suge Knight in jail
- Nate Dogg hooks will NEVER get played out
- Warren G = over rated
- the westcoast needs to separate itself from Snoop and black ball him from their albums to survive
- soopafly is as much of a crackhead as Daz is for stayin with Snoop for as long as he has without dropping a solo album
- Cam'ron and The Diplomats should take 5 years off and learn how to rap, or just recognize how wack they r and do other business ventures besides the music industry
- The Game is very overrated
- MTV should change it's name to reflect how non-musical it is
and finally
- west coast rap is better without Snoop Dogg
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-The West will never succeed if people only check names that ring bells. People need to venture out and listen to new emcees, not just wait for Snoop and Dre to introduce someone.
Bought Jayo Felony - Crip Hop & Brotha Lynch Hung - Season Of Da Siccness WithOut Hearing Them With Dre Or Snoop
- Too many people look up to Snoop like he's some "Westcoast God" or something, to me hes just aight right now, theres is no comparison to the way he was when he was with Death Row.
Jay Z Says Something On His New Album About Snoop Being To The West What He Is To The East, I'm Guessing He Ment He Is Good And That He Reps Good Not That They Are Both Sellouts
1 Love 2 Nasir Jones (King Of New York)
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Although Nas Is The King I Think Illmatic Is Not The Best He Relesed
People Need To Stop Hatin On G-Unit
All Of Haterats Posts Have Been The Same
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-Most People will only give a young artist a chance if he`s affiliated with big names
-Dre should stop workin with so many established & new east coast artists, give the New West a chance or Get back with the OGs
-People need to stop worrying about Dres production credits. They dont know whats really going on cause they never been in the studio with him
-Restless was one of my fav. Xzibit albums
-Dj Quik is the most talented artist in Rap. He has put out the best & most creative records and done it all from A-Z, and most of it was quality.
-Most stuff coming from the DPG camp is average or wack right now. Sad but true
-A lot of artists in Rap are overrated, people still like them cause they had a good debut album, most stuff after that was wack, well maybe not wack but worse than their debut album. They set their bars too high
-Ohh yeah and what Kaidy said about the 2Pac records. pleaaase stop it
-98% in Todays Hip Hop sucks
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-The Love Below Is A Classic
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-People Need to stop making remixes or covers of tupac songs, especially those cats that he has dissed...knowing damn well he never liked you to start with (Jay Z, Wyclef)
-Dj Quik is the best Westcoast Artist Period
-Crooked I is 10 times better than 50 cent
-Power 106 is better than 100.3 the beat
-"Terrorist threats" is better than bow down in my opinion
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Peeps need to stop hating on Illmatic, it a straight classic, and Nas's best cd by miles.
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- The Blueprint is the best album of the new millenium.
- DJ Quik is a better MC than any of the rappers he has ever been affiliated with except Mausberg R.I.P.
- Dr. Dre is the only West Coast artist that will ever reach multi-platinum sales again.
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-There are better Latino Emcees than those wack ass Cholo rappers.
-Rappers shouldn't constantly get props for albums that came out more than 7 years ago. If you haven't dropped something as hot within the last 5 years, it's not valid.
-Virtually every West Coast Rapper is Underground. For the exception of Snoop, Dre, Xzibit, Quik, E-40 and Too Short. All other rappers may have a major deal, but are not on major or nationwide status.
-The Game needs to be more creative, much like he was on Get Low. His style is WAY TOO generic now. He's too much like every other rapper doing it.
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-DMX sucks balls and is overrated
-i have a feeling WSC aint gonna sell cuzz of all the bootleggers
-was hopeing the jay z album flopped
-wishes bone thugs went back to there old E.1999 style or even the Art Of War style that i like better
-Tech N9ne is way underrated
-same for Mobb Deep
-Biggie was better then 2pac
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o yeah and
-Guerilla Maab is WAY underrated!!!
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* Aftermath/Shady ruined Haterats life, and made him a very confused man.
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- Eminem is one of the most creative, original, clever, and funny emcees ever.
- D12 are pretty damn dope, as well as being pretty damn underrated.
- Royce Da 5'9 should join D12, or at least sign with Shady/Aftermath.
- Fatal is the only talented Outlaw member besides Big Syke. All the rest were average gangsta rappers.
- Jay-Z was way better lyrically bacc in the day. Ever since he bit Nas' style he's been wack.
- Besides Pac of course, Rakim is THE greatest emcee ever.
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- Eminem is one of the most creative, original, clever, and funny emcees ever.
- Fatal is the only talented Outlaw member besides Big Syke. All the rest were average gangsta rappers.
Eminem is the most original? LMAO. Thank Chino XL and Esham for Em's style. Creative? Tell that to Del or Kool Keith. Clever? Haha, no. Funny? He was funny back in the day, but since he's been studio thugging, he ain't been shit but lame.
Young Noble and Napolean are average? Yet, D-12 is dope? Hmmmm....
*Thinks he's crazy*
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^^ Let it go.. lol
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- DJ Quik is the greatest artist ever & should never retire!! ;D
- Snoop Dogg, Daz Dillinger & Suge Knight make the West Coast look bad.
- The West Coast should stay underground, and stop worrying about going platinum.
- Ecay Uno, Yukmouth, Spice 1 & Brotha Lynch are tight rappers, but have wack ass/played out beats on their albums.
- Warren G isn't as good of a rapper as he used to be.
- Snoop is extremely overrated as an artist.
- Mausberg(R.I.P.)would be one of the most respected rappers on the West if he was still alive.
- Most people's expectations are WAY too high.
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niether 2pac nor biggie are the greatest of anything of all time
tq is the best R&B singer of the last 10 years
micheal jackson fucks children
r. kelly probably fucks 17 year old girls...not 13
mekhi phifer should drop an album
suge knight is not fat...he's festively plump
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suge knight is not fat...he's festively plump
And the father on Fresh Prince of Bel Air
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^^ Let it go.. lol
What? You can dickride Shady, but when someone says something bad about them, it's wrong? Get over it.
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suge knight is not fat...he's festively plump
And the father on Fresh Prince of Bel Air
lmao...and the father from "Family Matters" w/ steve urkel
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^^ Let it go.. lol
What? You can dickride Shady, but when someone says something bad about them, it's wrong? Get over it.
Naw, I don't dickride them, if it's wack, I say it's wack.
At least I don't pretend to have another opinion just to stir up some shit.
75% of your posts are dissing Shady/Aftermath/Dre/50/Em.. have you made someone convert to hating them too yet.. ?
lol
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^^ Let it go.. lol
What? You can dickride Shady, but when someone says something bad about them, it's wrong? Get over it.
Naw, I don't dickride them, if it's wack, I say it's wack.
At least I don't pretend to have another opinion just to stir up some shit.
75% of your posts are dissing Shady/Aftermath/Dre/50/Em.. have you made someone convert to hating them too yet.. ?
lol
if its wack you say its wack? that only seems to be the case if its not shady/aftermath. not tryin to start shit jome but i've never heard you say something is wack by them...i've heard dissapointing...but never wack
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if its wack you say its wack? that only seems to be the case if its not shady/aftermath. not tryin to start shit jome but i've never heard you say something is wack by them...i've heard dissapointing...but never wack
Usually, if something by Aftermath/Shady is wack, 20-30 posters have already replied with that, before I even see the thread.
^^ Usually also the case even if it's not wack.
And I don't really like to give SGV/Lincoln and the likes even more ammunition.. if it's wack, it's not worth discussing.
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but then you cant really say that if its wack you say its wack...as far as im concerned 90% of what comes out of there is wack except 1) some of ems shit 2) banks is pretty dope...will probably cop his solo....50 needs to bring shit back to the how to rob days...then i will buy his albums...i think he can do it too...he just needs to stop letting money talk.
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- Eminem is one of the most creative, original, clever, and funny emcees ever.
- Fatal is the only talented Outlaw member besides Big Syke. All the rest were average gangsta rappers.
Eminem is the most original? LMAO. Thank Chino XL and Esham for Em's style. Creative? Tell that to Del or Kool Keith. Clever? Haha, no. Funny? He was funny back in the day, but since he's been studio thugging, he ain't been shit but lame.
Young Noble and Napolean are average? Yet, D-12 is dope? Hmmmm....
*Thinks he's crazy*
I'm not gonna thank Chin-O-Verrated XL for anything. Never listened to Esham before though.
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we're not gonna hear greater albums then we've heard already..
I doubt that they'll ever be a greater album than SOC put out by a group.
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- Straight Outta Compton really is one of the most overrated albums ever. Probably an 8/10 at best.
Oh, and B.R.A.M since SOC was released there have been plenty of better group albums, The Low End Theory, Enter The 36 Chambers just to name a couple. Even Dre himself has said he can't listen all the way through SOC anymore, and he's the guy who created it.
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- Jin's album might end up average but he'll blow up
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- Straight Outta Compton really is one of the most overrated albums ever. Probably an 8/10 at best.
Oh, and B.R.A.M since SOC was released there have been plenty of better group albums, The Low End Theory, Enter The 36 Chambers just to name a couple. Even Dre himself has said he can't listen all the way through SOC anymore, and he's the guy who created it.
oh shit i forgot about 36 chambers, yeah that was pretty tight too..
but i still think soc is the best.. just an opinion though man..
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50 needs to bring shit back to the how to rob days...then i will buy his albums...i think he can do it too...he just needs to stop letting money talk.
Beg For Mercy Sounds More Like Power Of The Dollar Than GRODT
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-Restless is Dope
-Snoop is tight
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I'm not gonna thank Chin-O-Verrated XL for anything.
Chino XL overrated ???
He's not my favorite, but to say that he's underrated is NOT a exaggeration..
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I'm not gonna thank Chin-O-Verrated XL for anything.
Chino XL overrated ???
He's not my favorite, but to say that he's underrated is NOT a exaggeration..
Hey, I'm actually a fan of his, but I just think that he's WAY overrated. A lot of people speak on him as if he's the greatest emcee to ever live. Quite frankly I find a lot of his lines/metaphors corny. And I don't particularly like all of the famous people comparisons he makes. Corny.
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Chino XL overrated ???
He's not my favorite, but to say that he's underrated is NOT a exaggeration..
Don't worry, he's an angered Pac fan.
Just today, I let my homie who's a die hard Pac fan hear the freestyle where Chino dissed Pac. First thing out of his mouth, "fuck him." LMAO.
Pac fans hate Chino. To say Chino is overrated is hilarious. Chino gets props probably less than anyone around.
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Chino XL overrated ???
He's not my favorite, but to say that he's underrated is NOT a exaggeration..
Don't worry, he's an angered Pac fan.
Just today, I let my homie who's a die hard Pac fan hear the freestyle where Chino dissed Pac. First thing out of his mouth, "fuck him." LMAO.
Pac fans hate Chino. To say Chino is overrated is hilarious. Chino gets props probably less than anyone around.
Please read the post above. I also wanna say I'm a Biggie fan, Nas fan, Mobb Deep fan, and I was a big fan of the Fugees bac in the mid-nineties. So why don't I hate all of them and just single out Chino?
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- The westcoast gets no love from sells because they release their albums after an eternity of being leaked on the net
- I find Spice 1 extremely boring for some reason
- Ayatollah is one of the east best producers
- Gangsta Rap will never be as big as it was in the 90's
- Royce 5'9 could give eminem a challenge on the mic ;D
- Snoop is a westcoast pioneer but is kinda washed up now
- The westcoast hip hop underground is just as good as the east (planet asia, aceyalone,rasco, project blowed,dilated peoples)
- Canibus should sign with Roc a fella
- Ant Banks is one of the most underrated producers ever
- People are stuck on old albums cause those were "THE GOOD OLD DAYS" and they will never come around again
- Pharaohe Monch should sign with Aftermath : )
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- Royce 5'9 could give eminem a challenge on the mic ;D
- Canibus should sign with Roc a fella
- Pharaohe Monch should sign with Aftermath : )
Not crazy at all.. 8)
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Nocturnal Hustlaz are some of the most lyrical rappers out there
YES!!!
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Please read the post above. I also wanna say I'm a Biggie fan, Nas fan, Mobb Deep fan, and I was a big fan of the Fugees bac in the mid-nineties. So why don't I hate all of them and just single out Chino?
None of them name-checked Pac. Every Pac fan is upset at Chino. It's a fact, that's why it's rare that they give him his props. How many times do you see Chino getting props on MTV, BET, the Radio, The Source, XXL etc? Not often. Where is he overrated? Not here. There's only a few who like him, as far as I know.
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Sorry. I just don't agree with you. I wonder if dude was white would you be givin' him as much props?
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Sorry. I just don't agree with you. I wonder if dude was white would you be givin' him as much props?
LMAO! Now you're pulling the race card? Haha!!!! This is funny. As a matter of fact, I like a lot of White Emcees. Paul Wall, Towdown, Haystak, Vinnie Paz, Apathy, Sav C & KD, Hyst, Lil Wyte, T-Bo, the list goes on. So, don't even pull that card. You lost this arguement homie, you didn't prove shit, other than you're hating for no reason.
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^add Mista CaNE 2 that list mane ;D
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-SOC by NWA wuz a pretty good album
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Mobb Deep, Biggie & Nas Never Dissed Pac but Chino Did It When Pac Was In Jail & Couldn't Respond Which Isn't Cool Same With 50 He Should Never Of Dissed Shyne But I Still Like 50.
As For White Rappers Most Of Them Are Crap Except Paul Wall, Mista Cane & Eminem But I Don't Like Anything Em Has Put Out Since The Slim Shady LP, Except Bitch Please,Til I Collapse & The One With Him An Dre Dissin JD.
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Please read the post above. I also wanna say I'm a Biggie fan, Nas fan, Mobb Deep fan, and I was a big fan of the Fugees bac in the mid-nineties. So why don't I hate all of them and just single out Chino?
None of them name-checked Pac. Every Pac fan is upset at Chino. It's a fact, that's why it's rare that they give him his props. How many times do you see Chino getting props on MTV, BET, the Radio, The Source, XXL etc? Not often. Where is he overrated? Not here. There's only a few who like him, as far as I know.
I think I proved my case in the other thread. And I wasn't pullin' any race card. Just statin' that it's not too far fetched that you like Chino so much due to the fact that y'all are similar in ethnicity. When IMO Em is a much better emcee, but for some reason you hate his guts. That's all.
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Mobb Deep, Biggie & Nas Never Dissed Pac...
Mobb Deep and Notorious B.I.G. did. ("Drop A Gem On 'Em" & "Long Kiss Goodnight")
I've only heard a handfull of Chino XL tracks and some guest appearances and I was wondering if his albums are all similies and punchlines like the songs I heard or does he actually have some variety and content?
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I think I proved my case in the other thread. And I wasn't pullin' any race card. Just statin' that it's not too far fetched that you like Chino so much due to the fact that y'all are similar in ethnicity. When IMO Em is a much better emcee, but for some reason you hate his guts. That's all.
You proved your point, really? Must've missed it. You know you're pulling the race card, that's all you can say.
C2K: Chino has some real dope songs. He gets introspective at times, he has battle raps, concept tracks. IMO, he's well rounded.
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*Daz is 50 cent's #1 fan
HELL YEAH!
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- Hip Hop is NOT dead...IMO it is takin' a turn around from mainstream to hungry emcees,of course there will be wack people out..I live in a city where 8 outta 10 people are rappers and alot of them are tight...Hip hop culture thrives around where I live. We have battles at every club and at most of the high schools .White people dont get clowned for wearin a jersey and rappin'...Race means nothin'..I know people will disagree but believe me it is like that around here...
-Besides from OutKast, Scarface.. Most southern rap is WAAAACK! That get crunk shit is garbage..IF you want to look at what is ruinin rap don't look at shady/aftermath.At least they dont make songs screamin nonsence and makin new sounds.
-Lil Jon is a worse rapper than my grandmother
-Ja Rule is wacker than Lil Jon
-The Boston scene has alot of talent in it and should be more recognized.
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- i think snoop´s DGITBSNTBT is a good ass album
- "changes" by 2pac is wack.
- dr.dre should retire after 2001
- eazy-e was a wack rapper
- new west artists suck because ain´t nothing "west" in them they rap over shitty-club-beats tryin 2 make it but they can´t.
- bloody mary and storm were better female rappers than that´s out today get respect
- 2pac was overrated, he was the best rapper IMO but he wasnt a good MC (real hip-hop heads know the difference)
- crooked i doesnt need an album
good thread. post your opinions.
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Shit blast from the past !
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- 2pac was overrated, he was the best rapper IMO but he wasnt a good MC (real hip-hop heads know the difference)
If you're going to claim this, you should probably change the avi.
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- 2pac was overrated, he was the best rapper IMO but he wasnt a good MC (real hip-hop heads know the difference)
If you're going to claim this, you should probably change the avi.
no.because 2pac is still tha GOAT imo .. but on the otha hand AS AN MC he wasnt that great.. he rhymes "thug ni++a" and "drug dealer" 1000 times, good mc´s don´t do that.
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- brotha lynch hung´s "loaded" sucks
- slim shady LP was the best eminem album
- all the 2pac-enemies were afraid to shoot back directly
- tim dog´s "fuck compton" was better than any diss directed at tim dog because of that track
- busta rhymes and e-40 could easily hang up the mic
- the outlawz sucked (yes even on pac-tracks) except kadafi,fatal and storm
- death row should put out paradise album instead of rage´s fat-ass
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- Problem is probably the worst rapper on the westcoast
- Damizza is probably the worst producer on the west coast
- DJ Quik sucks as a rapper
- Bo Roc is better than Butch Cassidy
- Messy Marv is better than Too $hort
- "7 day theory" is one of the most overrated albums of all time
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Even though Nate Dogg recommended doing so every day, I just don't feel like smoking today.
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- 2pac was overrated, he was the best rapper IMO but he wasnt a good MC (real hip-hop heads know the difference)
you're not a hip hop head so how can you claim that?
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R-Tistic was a good poster , coming off with interesting topics most of the time ... this forum is missing posters like Crafty, Euthanasia , Elevenz...
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- 2pac was overrated, he was the best rapper IMO but he wasnt a good MC (real hip-hop heads know the difference)
If you're going to claim this, you should probably change the avi.
no.
Obviously I was right given you now have the DR logo up there
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-Dogg Food is as good as The Chronic and Doggystyle
-Doggfather is my favorite Snoop album
-Detox will come out someday
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- Detox Will Never Drop
- Assassin From Tha Bay>Dr.Dre
- Xzibit Has One Of The Best Voices In Hip-Hop Ever
- Underground Is Better Than Mainstream
- Eazy-E Was NOT A Good Rapper, His Lyrics Were Too Simple
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this forum is missing posters like Crafty, Euthanasia , Elevenz...
and now you.....
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very interesting thread, some of those posts from the first 2 pages were prophecy lol