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Iraq Threatens Civilization with Weapons of Mass Murder
By Deroy Murdock
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 20, 2002
Amid today's swirl of diplomatic and political activity over Iraq, one easily could forget what is at stake: the neutralization of Saddam Hussein's current or potential capacity to exterminate human beings in numbers exceeding four, five, or even six digits.
In his stirring speech from Ellis Island this September 11, President Bush discussed "weapons of mass murder." This phrase, which I have promoted since last July, is far more gripping than the bloodless "weapons of mass destruction." America's enemies do not wish to demolish vacant parking structures at 4:30 A.M. They want to turn thousands of Americans and our friends into corpses - preferably in broad daylight. Retiring the now cliched "WMD" and detailing the dangers of weapons of mass murder should help nervous congressmen and invertebrate foreign leaders understand the importance of pacifying Iraq.
What, specifically, would such weapons do? The Bush Administration vaguely discusses the unholy trinity of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. Defense scholars aside, most people have no clue how such devices could affect their lives.
Dexter Ingram, a Heritage Foundation threat assessment analyst, ponders doomsday scenarios for a living. While a U.S. Navy flight officer, he managed nuclear contingency plans. Today, he uses the Consequence Assessment Tool Set to forecast the havoc that weapons of mass murder could unleash anywhere on Earth.
CATS generates conservative estimates. This non-classified Pentagon computer model predicts only the number of 18- to 25-year-old males who such weapons would affect. This is neither ageist nor sexist. "It's a military model designed for combat use," Ingram explains, "and those are the types of people who will be on the front lines, for the most part." Add females to males below 17 and above 26, and casualty figures climb.
I asked Ingram to envision a VX nerve gas attack on San Francisco. CATS' default scenario assumes that an aircraft, perhaps a crop duster, sprays 264 pounds of this chemical weapon over the city while people are home. At least 530 previously-described men would be killed. People outside that demographic would boost the death toll, as would an assault at rush hour or on a sunny Saturday afternoon. Symptoms include nightmares, salivation, vomiting, involuntary urination and respiratory failure.
What if airborne terrorists exposed Chicago to 440 pounds of botulinum toxin, "the single most poisonous substance known," according to the Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies? Conservatively, some 22,000 such males would be killed, along with many others. This biological weapon produces slurred speech, double vision, gastrointestinal distress, muscle paralysis and respiratory arrest.
Even worse, consider the detonation in Berlin of a three kiloton atomic device — like one of those "suitcase nukes" that vanished as the Soviet Union unraveled. At least 150,00 designated males would be killed. Over 100,000 more would suffer non-lethal radiation sickness, although cancer would strike many of them later. Birth defects also would harm their future children. Other Berliners would suffer and die in similar numbers.
While Heritage relies on models, Hussein prefers the real thing. He pays the families of West Bank homicide bombers bonuses of $25,000 each. Czech officials insist that 9-11 ringleader Mohamed Atta met in April 2001 with Iraqi embassy intelligence agent Ahmed Al-Ani in Prague. In March 1988, Hussein aerially bombarded Kurds in Halabja, Iraq. Mustard gas, nerve gas and cyanide killed more than 6,000, Amnesty International concluded. (The survivors should tell their stories publicly at the White House.)
During the Gulf War, journalists Tom Mangold and Jeff Goldberg report, Hussein possessed 100 bombs, 16 Scud warheads and several 122 mm rockets, all filled with botulinum toxin.
John Chapman of London's International Institute for Strategic Studies said September 9 that if the dictator who already has invaded Iran and Kuwait "were able to obtain fissile material from abroad, steal it or buy it some way, we certainly believe he has the ability to put together a nuclear weapon very quickly, in a matter of months." Remember, Hussein previously has fired Scuds at Bahrain, Iran, Israel, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
America and its allies could wait and see what Saddam Hussein does next. But inaction has its costs. As national security advisor Condoleezza Rice crisply states: "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."
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New York commentator Deroy Murdock is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a Senior Fellow with the Atlas Economic Research Foundation in Fairfax, Virginia.
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Iraq is a threat to US oil industry.
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naw, america is a threat to all civilization
peace
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it's funny how much people hate on the us here but embrace all of our culture so closely
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it's funny how much people hate on the us here but embrace all of our culture so closely
All the idiots on this board justifying terror against the US, please dont tell me that they live in this country?
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Well, I think they are a threat to us. But US hasn't proven that they found weapons so you gotta wonder who is in the wrong.
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a few do ya,lol
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it's funny how much people hate on the us here but embrace all of our culture so closely
what i said bout america is 100% true, all nations are afraid of america as it is the number 1 power in economy and arms. Its a fact that ur country is a threat.
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what i said bout america is 100% true, all nations are afraid of america as it is the number 1 power in economy and arms. Its a fact that ur country is a threat.
Not if you are down with us...
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what i said bout america is 100% true, all nations are afraid of america as it is the number 1 power in economy and arms. Its a fact that ur country is a threat.
we are not a threat , we are a force to be reconded with
theres a difference pal
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We are a bit of both. Bullying countries isn't right. That's threatening them.
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America: Either ride with us, or collide with us.....
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I repeat it: If Bush, Cheney and all those other geeks represent America I'm anti-american 24/7. I know there are some intelligent people in the US. You only won't find them in the government. Well, Powell seems to be an exeception
P.S. I'm not afraid of America. I'm afraid of retarded presidents.
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that article was bullshit, all hypothetical scenerios
BOTTOM LINE AINT NO MUTHAFUCKA IN THIS FORUM, PUT UP A PROPER CASE FOR WAR AGAINST IRAQ, YALL TRIED, BUT NO ONE HAS PROVEN IT TO ME AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, YALL NEED TO STOP SPEAKING ON IRAQ
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You are ignorant.
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How am I ignorant?
Because im letting you all know that your only justification or reasoning for war with Iraq is all nightmare scenerios and hypothetical questions? Im simply sayin Iraq isnt a threat to the US Populus, its a threat to US oilmonopoly but im sure lil Dick or lil Bush wont admit that
checkmate
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checkmate
Lol... Sure thing... I've provided evidence Iraq is a threat to our security. What have you shown?
An editorial article by somebody who has taken $400,000 dollars from somebody with very close ties to the Iraqi Government...
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What evidence? yOou aint shown me shit homey
thats not evidence,
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What evidence? yOou aint shown me shit homey
thats not evidence,
I guess your memory aint the best...
Take a look at this topic:
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=thehall;action=display;num=1032391402
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you people make me sad
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we are not a threat , we are a force to be reconded with
theres a difference pal
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I guess your memory aint the best...
Take a look at this topic:
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=thehall;action=display;num=1032391402
that link doesnt prove Iraq threatens the US existence
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that link doesnt prove Iraq threatens the US existence
How does it feel to be willfully blind to factual evidence?
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^^ nice sig lol
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How does it feel to be willfully blind to factual evidence?
alright homie
listen you're sayin that cuz Iraq MAY have WMD, that they are a threat to the US existence
Iraq's missles (long range, ballistic, warheads etc) cannot reach the US, it can threaten its neighbours, yes. Now if you're tellin me Iraq threatens its neighbours, then Ill agree with you, but Iraq doesnt threaten the US mainland with its weapons
It hasno connections with either 9/11, or any other terrorist organization (maybe u dont realize how much Muslims hate that man), so this hypothetical scenerio of Saddam giving terrorists weapons is baseless,
now Iraq does threaten American financial interests in the region (oil), it does pose a substantial threat to its neighbours, but it does not threatn the US, its all war mongering on the part of your US hawks
North Korea has been threatning its neighbours Japan, and S Korea for years, (and the Americans have many bases and 30,000 troops in that region)
China since the communist govt was formed has launched military incursions into Tibet,and India. And it has conducted war games and missle tests near Taiwan.
Israel , a nuclear nation itself, has gone to war with every one of its neighbours
so tell me what separates Iraq from the rest.....
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The nation with the most weapons of mass distruction, more than all other nations put together, a nation that has uprooted a whole government within the last year, and a nation that has a leader that was not elected by the majority of the people, but rather was appointed to by corrupt ways though family ties is the United States. Personally, I love my nation, I love being in the U.S., and I love my freedoms, and my right to live. But right now we have the wrong people in office, checking others when we should check ourselves. When Clintion was in office, other nations weren't as threated, 'cause they figured that he was a rational person, and as long he was defending himself from sex scandles, he was. Though he too used Iraq as a political distraction to cover up for Monica. Bush is using this as a way to make a legacy, though no one trust him, not even most of the U.S. people. Iraq is not a threat to us, they are a threat to the Middle East, but to us directly, no. Now if we were to say that in fact we were protecting others in the Middle East, then I see this, but Bushes foreign policies are very questionable. Thank God for Powell, 'cause he has helped us avoid too many problems thanks to Bush.
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The nation with the most weapons of mass distruction, more than all other nations put together, a nation that has uprooted a whole government within the last year, and a nation that has a leader that was not elected by the majority of the people, but rather was appointed to by corrupt ways though family ties is the United States. Personally, I love my nation, I love being in the U.S., and I love my freedoms, and my right to live. But right now we have the wrong people in office, checking others when we should check ourselves. When Clintion was in office, other nations weren't as threated, 'cause they figured that he was a rational person, and as long he was defending himself from sex scandles, he was. Though he too used Iraq as a political distraction to cover up for Monica. Bush is using this as a way to make a legacy, though no one trust him, not even most of the U.S. people. Iraq is not a threat to us, they are a threat to the Middle East, but to us directly, no. Now if we were to say that in fact we were protecting others in the Middle East, then I see this, but Bushes foreign policies are very questionable. Thank God for Powell, 'cause he has helped us avoid too many problems thanks to Bush.
i can always count on you to come thru homie
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The nation with the most weapons of mass distruction, more than all other nations put together, a nation that has uprooted a whole government within the last year, and a nation that has a leader that was not elected by the majority of the people, but rather was appointed to by corrupt ways though family ties is the United States. Personally, I love my nation, I love being in the U.S., and I love my freedoms, and my right to live. But right now we have the wrong people in office, checking others when we should check ourselves. When Clintion was in office, other nations weren't as threated, 'cause they figured that he was a rational person, and as long he was defending himself from sex scandles, he was. Though he too used Iraq as a political distraction to cover up for Monica. Bush is using this as a way to make a legacy, though no one trust him, not even most of the U.S. people. Iraq is not a threat to us, they are a threat to the Middle East, but to us directly, no. Now if we were to say that in fact we were protecting others in the Middle East, then I see this, but Bushes foreign policies are very questionable. Thank God for Powell, 'cause he has helped us avoid too many problems thanks to Bush.
The most sensible post in this thread. I completely agree.
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m dogg for president!
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It hasno connections with either 9/11, or any other terrorist organization (maybe u dont realize how much Muslims hate that man), so this hypothetical scenerio of Saddam giving terrorists weapons is baseless,
lol, dude saddem pays the famlies of sucide bombers for those that go to israel and commit sucide bombings. now thats not america but that is terroism..
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lol, dude saddem pays the famlies of sucide bombers for those that go to israel and commit sucide bombings. now thats not america but that is terroism..
whats next? the IRA? Kashmiri militants? Palestinian militants?
Phillipine militants? Terrorists in the Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone? Chechen rebels? Muslims fighting for autonomy in China? Tamil Tigers? The Mujahedin eh Khalq? Hezbollah?
Basque separatist rebels? The Muslim Brotherhood? Algerian Islamists?
if youre implying the US should go after every terrorist in the world, youre sayin America has the right to flaunt international law and the sovereignity of nations.....
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Man we should be after Korea in the first place.
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You say saddam pays families of suicide bombers?
US Equivilent:
Providing Israeli troops with armour to bulldoze the houses and livelyhoods of the bombers immediate family
Similaritys : Terrorism
Differences : Saddam owns oil
Acts of Horror:
3,000 dead in the WTC - worthy of world war?
200,000 dead in Hirsohima + Nagasaki - not a war crime
democracy of hypocrisy.