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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: The Watcher on December 14, 2003, 02:28:20 AM
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all over the news now
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20031214/ts_nm/iraq_saddam_arrest_dc
and on cnn.com
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"Saddam possibly caught - U.S."
cnn link http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html
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YOU BASTARDS BEAT ME TO POSTING THIS !!!!!!!
well Meyy X-mas to all the relatives of the people that Saddam killed
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yeah shits CRAZY!
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YEAH!!!!!!!!!! IT'S CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
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his wife let them know his where abouts too, untrustworthy bitches
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dayum!
(http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/story.saddam.close.jpg)
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yea saw this on the telly when i was half asleep it certainly woke me up. apparently he is being quite cooporative or talkative one of the 2
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thats crazy, what are they gonna do to him
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This is no victory for the US.
Bin Laden is the man they should be looking for.
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Americans are so corny.
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Bin Laden is the man they should be looking for.
Word.
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"This is very good news for the people of Iraq," British Prime Minister Tony Blair said in a statement Sunday. "It removes the shadow that has been hanging over them for too long of the nightmare of a return to the Saddam regime. This fear is now removed."
maybe it will make a bigger change there..
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Bin Laden is the man they should be looking for.
Word.
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This is no victory for the US.
Bin Laden is the man they should be looking for.
Ok, but let's not hate on them for every thing they do! If they dont get Saddam then fuck USA cause he's still alive, if they get him fuck USA cause Bin Laden is alive......
C'mon! Today it's a great day not only for USA, but for the non hypocrite WORLD.
Bin Laden is another history.
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thats just crazy
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Americans are so corny.
ha ur just mad cuz u cant live freely
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thats just crazy
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hard 2 Believe
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I think I gave him some change the other day while walking to class. ;D
Congats to The American Military, Bush, and all those involved in his capture.
It's funny to watch people try and belittle this. It just shows your ignorance and close-mindedness
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This news is great! God bless America....and God bless George W Bush, a true American hero.
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this is crazy shit gwarnin here, but it gotta be a big sigh of releif fo the americans politicians n army n shit......cuz they finally caught one of the big timers, but c'mon u gotta admit, shit got well corny when the white dude busts out a line tryna come from a arnie movie or sumshit.............."we got him"............thats str8 comedy, great television!
peace!
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Oh, and I thought this one was funny
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I think I gave him some change the other day while walking to class. ;D
Congats to The American Military, Bush, and all those involved in his capture.
It's funny to watch people try and belittle this. It just shows your ignorance and close-mindedness
why belittlenin? you captured a destroyed, old, future- and armyless man. aint that a bitch. if that's all your army can do within 8 month, let's hope you wont have to take the effort to find 3 or 4 old helpless men hidin in a trashy hole.
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You are a troll. Plain and simple. I don't even know why I'm responding to this...
I don't understand how people can watch the news about this and not be happy??! It amazes me that people will just ignore what a great thing this is for their own political agendas.
You don't have to like Bush to be happy about this
Before we found him it was: "You Stupid American's can't even find Saddam"
Now that we did its: "You ignorant American's took too long to find him"
Have fun living your poor, bitter, angry little delusional world. While the rest of the civilized world is celebrating, you're sitting at home getting angry at our success. What a pitiful life you must lead...
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Take a look at what some ACTUAL Iraqi's are thinking:
http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/
http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
http://dear_raed.blogspot.com/
http://ishtartalking.blogspot.com/
http://nabilsblog.blogspot.com/
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You are a troll. Plain and simple. I don't even know why I'm responding to this...
I don't understand how people can watch the news about this and not be happy??! It amazes me that people will just ignore what a great thing this is for their own political agendas.
You don't have to like Bush to be happy about this
Before we found him it was: "You Stupid American's can't even find Saddam"
Now that we did its: "You ignorant American's took too long to find him"
Have fun living your poor, bitter, angry little delusional world. While the rest of the civilized world is celebrating, you're sitting at home getting angry at our success. What a pitiful life you must lead...
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Crazy news......I cant believe they finally found him. Imagine the kind of torture and interigation tactics they will use on him :-X
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I don't understand how people can watch the news about this and not be happy??!
??? WTF?...yo think for a sec man. i got this from another fourm...and i agree with what he's saying 100%...capturing him dosen't change a damn thing...now because of this shit bush might be elected for 4 years...thats just great. :-X
"you know i never really cared about them capturing saddam except that they kept pushing that as their reason to be in iraq. why would any of you care? why should any american care? what has saddam done to you in comparison to what a man (who is still at large) has done? unless saddam actually has ties to al'qaida and can give information on the whereabouts of bin laden i couldnt give a flying fuck."
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From an extroverted point of view I think its to late to start a sensible debate wit you or ANY-body of your pro-american patriotic crew
I aint disappointed cause saddam's gonna be fucked now, he was a bitch nigga.
but.. why the hell shall I like it?? He had no power any more. he was no threat beforehand as well, but aight, it's no question he wasnt since he was in this dark, muddy hole.
so what the hell is great about that then? do you think things in iraq will get better now? do you think noone will hate the usa no more? what do you expect? maybe you are the one living in his own world my american friend.
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Crazy news......I cant believe they finally found him. Imagine the kind of torture and interigation tactics they will use on him :-X
I'm sure they'll be softer than the ones he has used to thousands of communists and Iraqi and prisioners from Iran and Kuwait. Dont you think?
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From an extroverted point of view I think its to late to start a sensible debate wit you or ANY-body of your pro-american patriotic crew
I aint disappointed cause saddam's gonna be fucked now, he was a bitch nigga.
but.. why the hell shall I like it?? He had no power any more. he was no threat beforehand as well, but aight, it's no question he wasnt since he was in this dark, muddy hole.
so what the hell is great about that then? do you think things in iraq will get better now? do you think noone will hate the usa no more? what do you expect? maybe you are the one living in his own world my american friend.
First off, I'm not your friend.
Second, take a look at those Iraqi Blog's I posted. Actual writings from actual Iraqi's. As twisted and ignorant as your logic may be, you can't argue with real Iraqi's.
Third: Not only will the Ba'athists be less inclined to fight, but the "Fearless Leader" was found hiding in a hole in the ground, and submitted to the disgrace of a televised medical probe! This is a great shame for the "fearless leader" to be found hiding. The Iraqi's are no longer afraid of his return to power and I bet is viewed as a coward all across Iraq. He had a gun on him and didn't even try to resist. A recent news story I heard on NPR had Saddam loyalists flatly stating that, although the cells operated independently and did not know of other cells actions, they got their orders from a military structure that they believe was controlled by Saddam. Once they find out what a coward their leader is, do you really think they will fight for a dead/dying cause?
Fourth: Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/14/wterr14.xml
Here's another:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/14/wterr114.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/12/14/ixnewstop.html
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From an extroverted point of view I think its to late to start a sensible debate wit you or ANY-body of your pro-american patriotic crew
I aint disappointed cause saddam's gonna be fucked now, he was a bitch nigga.
but.. why the hell shall I like it?? He had no power any more. he was no threat beforehand as well, but aight, it's no question he wasnt since he was in this dark, muddy hole.
so what the hell is great about that then? do you think things in iraq will get better now? do you think noone will hate the usa no more? what do you expect? maybe you are the one living in his own world my american friend.
ok here's somethings, once again you live in your cushy comfortable home talking shit about another country....he had no power before? i'm sure that mass graves are how iraqis love to bury thier loved ones. talk about it don't be about it...that "bitch nigga" ruled a whole nation and was involved killing thousands of people and you sit on a fucking computer and talk shit...that makes you a little fucking worthless pussy of a girl.
and i don't mind living in my own american world cause we got all these countries with us and now we got germany, france and russia acting like some bitch ass ex girlfriends asking if they can get back with us....we just have to wait and see if america loves them hoes ;D
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He had no power any more. he was no threat beforehand as well, but aight, it's no question he wasnt since he was in this dark, muddy hole.
What a stupid comment!
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(http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0312/gallery.saddam.captured/1.saddam.beard.jpg)
Still photograph from a video of former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein taken shortly after he was captured shows what the once-feared dictator looked like after months in hiding. Saddam had grown a beard, and looked tired and haggard.
(http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0312/gallery.saddam.captured/2.saddam.shave.jpg)
Saddam in a photo taken after U.S. forces cleaned him up.
(http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0312/gallery.saddam.captured/4.saddam.hair.jpg)
Saddam undergoes a medical examination after he was taken into custody.
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no biggie , there was no way this guy would come back as a dictator anyways cause the regime had been terminated. But yall should be worried bout osama bin laden, that guy is mentally retarded , not saddam.
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damn thats crazy shit, he looks like an old ragged piece of shit. I wonder what's gonna happen next.
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congrats on getting him, I don't really give a shit and don't feel like arguing
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All I needed to hear was the Iraqi reporters yelling "Death To Saddam!!! Long Live Iraq!!!!" Over and over and over and over and over and over again when they flashed the pictures of Saddam in custody. That pretty much told me what I needed to know.
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I don't understand how people can watch the news about this and not be happy??!
unless saddam actually has ties to al'qaida
well here you go then man , i was watching msnbc and they said they had reports that a man under Saddam's regime helped trained Muhammed Atta in Baghdad 3 years ago.
also it's going to be fucking harder to find osama bin laden than Saddam! Saddam was HATED in the middle east so of corse someone was going to tip hip off. Osama is LOVED by a bunch of sick fuck muslum extremists! ALso the regions between pakistan and afghanistan are more barren and uncivilized than iraq.
and hell yeah this shit is good news, saddams bitch ass looked like a beat up santa clause! (how ironic , it being christmas and all) from now on, everytime i see those pics of saddam i'm calling him Saddam Clause
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Fourth: Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/14/wterr14.xml
Here's another:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/14/wterr114.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/12/14/ixnewstop.html
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I dont give 2 shits about Saddam Hussein. Pussy shouldve used that AK 47 he had. Or better yet, not fuck with his people for 30 years so they wouldve had your back when Uncle Sam comes rolling in. But to see people cheer a man -who they dont know and have nothing do with- who is captured after a 8 month run is despicable. You are cheering the capture and humilation of a man who you have brainwashed to accept as a threat and enemy. Thats close mindness to me.
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I don't understand how people can watch the news about this and not be happy??!
unless saddam actually has ties to al'qaida
well here you go then man , i was watching msnbc and they said they had reports that a man under Saddam's regime helped trained Muhammed Atta in Baghdad 3 years ago.
also it's going to be fucking harder to find osama bin laden than Saddam! Saddam was HATED in the middle east so of corse someone was going to tip hip off. Osama is LOVED by a bunch of sick fuck muslum extremists! ALso the regions between pakistan and afghanistan are more barren and uncivilized than iraq.
and hell yeah this shit is good news, saddams bitch ass looked like a beat up santa clause! (how ironic , it being christmas and all) from now on, everytime i see those pics of saddam i'm calling him Saddam Clause
Once again you prove why you are the biggest idiot on WCC.
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This news is great! God bless America....and God bless George W Bush, a true American hero.
Thanks for the laugh ;D
You are a troll. Plain and simple. I don't even know why I'm responding to this...
I don't understand how people can watch the news about this and not be happy??! It amazes me that people will just ignore what a great thing this is for their own political agendas.
You don't have to like Bush to be happy about this
Before we found him it was: "You Stupid American's can't even find Saddam"
Now that we did its: "You ignorant American's took too long to find him"
Have fun living your poor, bitter, angry little delusional world. While the rest of the civilized world is celebrating, you're sitting at home getting angry at our success. What a pitiful life you must lead...
I would have been happy if Iraqi forces/opposition captured Saddam on their own instead of this bullshit Operation US Economy/2004 elections.
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All I needed to hear was the Iraqi reporters yelling "Death To Saddam!!! Long Live Iraq!!!!" Over and over and over and over and over and over again when they flashed the pictures of Saddam in custody. That pretty much told me what I needed to know.
Pussy reporter couldn't say anything when Saddam was around....kind of like Trauma hiding for 3 weeks until he found something to talk about ;D
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well done you got him after 8 months lol but was he sitting on chemical weopens yall so corny lets see you get osama or go after the biggest threat korea who actually have chemical weopens
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From an extroverted point of view I think its to late to start a sensible debate wit you or ANY-body of your pro-american patriotic crew
I aint disappointed cause saddam's gonna be fucked now, he was a bitch nigga.
but.. why the hell shall I like it?? He had no power any more. he was no threat beforehand as well, but aight, it's no question he wasnt since he was in this dark, muddy hole.
so what the hell is great about that then? do you think things in iraq will get better now? do you think noone will hate the usa no more? what do you expect? maybe you are the one living in his own world my american friend.
ok here's somethings, once again you live in your cushy comfortable home talking shit about another country....he had no power before? i'm sure that mass graves are how iraqis love to bury thier loved ones. talk about it don't be about it...that "bitch nigga" ruled a whole nation and was involved killing thousands of people and you sit on a fucking computer and talk shit...that makes you a little fucking worthless pussy of a girl.
and i don't mind living in my own american world cause we got all these countries with us and now we got germany, france and russia acting like some bitch ass ex girlfriends asking if they can get back with us....we just have to wait and see if america loves them hoes ;D
these "you-sit-in-your-comfortable-home-talkin-shit" is so stupid I wont even arguein on it, just tell me what the hell is you thinkn sayin this? LoL
I dont say he didnt do shit fella, Im just sayin he was NO threat AT ALL for the western world...
especially after america bombed the shit on children women and men during march, he had no power... no power .. absolutely no power.. FACE IT...
c'mon snitchez, accept it. you just captured an old broken helpless men who hided in a muddy hole for months. no big deal. you suck. deal wit it. cause Im startin to feel stupid arguein over the obvious truth.
(+ these comments of happy iraqis happen to be faked, like the cheerful palastinians where after 9/11)
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One of the most pathetic comment we can say to comment a war is to talk about civil victims AFTER the war is done, to say "damn, wars are tragic!". "USA bombed shit against children women and innocent men". SAY WHAT? Their deaths are not pathetic, i'm in no way saying it, but it's pathetic to "use" them to comment the war. There's no war without victims, we knew it from 3000 years of history. A war aint a bowling match! If you kill more "enemies" you die. If you dont, you loose. Innocent victims will always be a big part of EVERY war. Now we can argue if it was right for USA/UK to declare war to Saddam/Iraq, but let's judge it BEFORE the bombing shit, cause we knew the drama. Let's judge on the situation. Let's judge on Saddam refusing to collaborate with ONU. Let's judge on 9/11. Let's judge on Bin Laden/Saddam connection (if there's one). Let's judge on Bush wanting to protect USA, and to "clean" Middle-East from dangerous dictators. Let's judge on those things, not on innocent victims. Like if a war can be done witouth them!!
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From an extroverted point of view I think its to late to start a sensible debate wit you or ANY-body of your pro-american patriotic crew
I aint disappointed cause saddam's gonna be fucked now, he was a bitch nigga.
but.. why the hell shall I like it?? He had no power any more. he was no threat beforehand as well, but aight, it's no question he wasnt since he was in this dark, muddy hole.
so what the hell is great about that then? do you think things in iraq will get better now? do you think noone will hate the usa no more? what do you expect? maybe you are the one living in his own world my american friend.
ok here's somethings, once again you live in your cushy comfortable home talking shit about another country....he had no power before? i'm sure that mass graves are how iraqis love to bury thier loved ones. talk about it don't be about it...that "bitch nigga" ruled a whole nation and was involved killing thousands of people and you sit on a fucking computer and talk shit...that makes you a little fucking worthless pussy of a girl.
and i don't mind living in my own american world cause we got all these countries with us and now we got germany, france and russia acting like some bitch ass ex girlfriends asking if they can get back with us....we just have to wait and see if america loves them hoes ;D
these "you-sit-in-your-comfortable-home-talkin-shit" is so stupid I wont even arguein on it, just tell me what the hell is you thinkn sayin this? LoL
I dont say he didnt do shit fella, Im just sayin he was NO threat AT ALL for the western world...
especially after america bombed the shit on children women and men during march, he had no power... no power .. absolutely no power.. FACE IT...
c'mon snitchez, accept it. you just captured an old broken helpless men who hided in a muddy hole for months. no big deal. you suck. deal wit it. cause Im startin to feel stupid arguein over the obvious truth.
(+ these comments of happy iraqis happen to be faked, like the cheerful palastinians where after 9/11)
so if someone killed your whole family and all your friends but then lived in a run down shack...it's no use of catching him? you ever heard of JUSTICE little girl? he committed thousands of crimes but just cause he was living in a shack we shouldn't worry about him...i'd love to see the fantasy world you live. once again....if you're a computer nerd like you are, don't talk about things you only see on the TV....now if you want to complain about how bad bill gates is, you're free to do so since all you do is sit on a computer and talk shit. but when it comes to war....be a good little girl and shut your mouth
and to stilldre, yes we should get osama and that will take time but as for korea, we're only stepping in to save face, you actually think ANY of those nuclear missles would hit any US territories? we have satillites that can read the year of a nickle in a midget's pocket. i'm pretty sure we could see a 1 megaton nuclear rocket fueling up/flying and scramble some f14's off of a carrier to blow them up over a large part of ocean. korea really poses no threat to the US. terrorist countries rich in oil however are better targets
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I dont give 2 shits about Saddam Hussein. Pussy shouldve used that AK 47 he had. Or better yet, not fuck with his people for 30 years so they wouldve had your back when Uncle Sam comes rolling in. But to see people cheer a man -who they dont know and have nothing do with- who is captured after a 8 month run is despicable. You are cheering the capture and humilation of a man who you have brainwashed to accept as a threat and enemy. Thats close mindness to me.
...But yet it's alright for you to call him a pussy, even though you've also never met him. Realize you're a hypocrite, no better than the rest of us, and then move on.
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just thaught i'd let everyone know i made money off sadam being captured ;D stock markets are all up and i made £300 already this morning from my portfolio
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"You are cheering the capture and humilation of a man who you have brainwashed to accept as a threat and enemy. Thats close mindness to me."
well i'm happy he got captured and the media in lebanon doesn't make him seem like a threat.I'm happy they caught him because he's an S.O.B. , hell u said it he's been fuckin with his people for the past 30 years , so even though politically it might not be that big of a victory since Saddam has been reduced to helpless 66 year old man, Morally this is HUGE news for the iraqis and I'm happy for them..
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just a comment to add u think we get brainwashed, saddam controlled everything in iraq plus there was no freedom of speach if you say opr broadcast anything they didn't like they were likly to pay you an unfriendly visit. ppl talking like cos hes not in power anymore he isn't a bad man or saying he doesn't matter as much as osama bin laden. saddam killed probably a hundred times as many ppl as osama is responsible for if not more. but then i guess they're not important because they weren't american right?
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these "you-sit-in-your-comfortable-home-talkin-shit" is so stupid I wont even arguein on it, just tell me what the hell is you thinkn sayin this? LoL
I dont say he didnt do shit fella, Im just sayin he was NO threat AT ALL for the western world...
especially after america bombed the shit on children women and men during march, he had no power... no power .. absolutely no power.. FACE IT...
c'mon snitchez, accept it. you just captured an old broken helpless men who hided in a muddy hole for months. no big deal. you suck. deal wit it. cause Im startin to feel stupid arguein over the obvious truth.
(+ these comments of happy iraqis happen to be faked, like the cheerful palastinians where after 9/11)
YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON
I'll let you take a look at this: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.htm Proof that what you said is wrong.
It's funny that your so brainwashed to belive something you've heard that paints the US in a bad light. You call everybody else brainwashed and you pride yourself on looking at things from an unbiased point of view, but you belive something this stupid without doing basic fact checking? Come on. You are Ignorant in the purest sense.
Lets not forget the time when you called World War 2 a "Joke"
In fact, you've spouted so much bullshit around here it's amazing anybody even listens to your wack-job views anymore.
You've barely got a grasp on reality and a lower than average intelligence level.
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lol.. lincoln is our new brian
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lol.. lincoln is our new brian
How so?
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misinformed white muslim convert?
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misinformed white muslim convert?
misinformed -No
white - Yes
muslim convert - Yes
Perhaps we have a bit in common but I disagree with much of what he said in old threads I read. He defends Farakhan & other things I don't.
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The conclusion of Saddam being a pussy is derived from the fact that he was armed when confornted by US troops and yet was still captured alive.
You cannot call this man your enemy and a threat to you, because there is no facts from which you can derive that conclusion. So once again, your analogies and examples dont work.
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Hey guys.. hold on, hold on!
Before you speak about Saddam please think twice, or shut up. Whoever said that Saddam had no power is stupid or ignorant. STUPID or IGNORANT.
In 1991, the ONU Alliance won the war, but they did the biggest mistake possible: they didnt kill Saddam. They just won the fucking war, but they didnt change things. The reaction of Saddam? After a few months, he started his big retaliation against his own people, by killing them, and by torturating people who cooparated with the Alliance. He killed thosands of people, BECAUSE OF ONU NOT KILLING HIM/protecting the citizen.
Now the biggest problem for IRAQI people was that they still had them images in their eyes. Saddam not dead retaliating from the inside, against his own population. Cuase that's how you act under a regime. You kill your opposition. No matter if it's a 4 years old, a female or an innocent.
Now what that means for Iraqi? (i mean the fact that Saddam is alive and in the hands of USA):
1) That he'll not retaliate against them
2) That this time USA will not leave them alone
3) That now they can cooperate with USA
4) That now they're finally free
5) That Saddam's ex militia can be destroyed, cause Saddam is politically dead
THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT!!!! Not cause he had direct "power".
AND IT'S NOT IMPORTANT FOR USA CITIZEN (they couldnt care less, honestly!). NOT FOR ITALIAN CITIZEN (like me). NOT FOR EUROPEANS. BUT FOR:
1) Iraqi people
2) All the other dictators of Middle East, who knows now that if they fuck with terrorism, USA will get them (like they did with Saddam).
SO........
THINK TWICE FOR REAL. Peace.
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just a comment to add u think we get brainwashed, saddam controlled everything in iraq plus there was no freedom of speach if you say opr broadcast anything they didn't like they were likly to pay you an unfriendly visit. ppl talking like cos hes not in power anymore he isn't a bad man or saying he doesn't matter as much as osama bin laden. saddam killed probably a hundred times as many ppl as osama is responsible for if not more. but then i guess they're not important because they weren't american right?
1. Saddam brainwashing his citizens and restricting of speech in IRAQ has exactly what to do with you?
2. Yes, he is a bad man. If the US wants to appoint itself the moral judge, jury and executioner, be my guest. But since US troops aint going into the Occupied Territories anytime soon, they have no legitimacy. The war itself is illegal, the current occupation is illegal, thus the hunting down of the head of state of a recognized soveriegn nation is illegal as well.
3. Thats great. But Osama allegedly killed 3000 AMERICANS, thus AMERICANS go after him. Saddam does nothing to no Americans, thus AMERICANS have no business in Iraq.
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2) All the other dictators of Middle East, who knows now that if they fuck with terrorism, USA will get them (like they did with Saddam).
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*sighs*
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just a comment to add u think we get brainwashed, saddam controlled everything in iraq plus there was no freedom of speach if you say opr broadcast anything they didn't like they were likly to pay you an unfriendly visit. ppl talking like cos hes not in power anymore he isn't a bad man or saying he doesn't matter as much as osama bin laden. saddam killed probably a hundred times as many ppl as osama is responsible for if not more. but then i guess they're not important because they weren't american right?
1. Saddam brainwashing his citizens and restricting of speech in IRAQ has exactly what to do with you?
2. Yes, he is a bad man. If the US wants to appoint itself the moral judge, jury and executioner, be my guest. But since US troops aint going into the Occupied Territories anytime soon, they have no legitimacy. The war itself is illegal, the current occupation is illegal, thus the hunting down of the head of state of a recognized soveriegn nation is illegal as well.
3. Thats great. But Osama allegedly killed 3000 AMERICANS, thus AMERICANS go after him. Saddam does nothing to no Americans, thus AMERICANS have no business in Iraq.
Just one little, simple, question:
Why are you defending Saddam?
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2) All the other dictators of Middle East, who knows now that if they fuck with terrorism, USA will get them (like they did with Saddam).
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*sighs*
Sighs what? I said that's the message. Not that it's true.
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The conclusion of Saddam being a pussy is derived from the fact that he was armed when confornted by US troops and yet was still captured alive.
You cannot call this man your enemy and a threat to you, because there is no facts from which you can derive that conclusion. So once again, your analogies and examples dont work.
Yeah, only you have the ability to do that. Please. The guy was evil, he's an enemy to me. You're pretty close, too, since you hate my country.
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just a comment to add u think we get brainwashed, saddam controlled everything in iraq plus there was no freedom of speach if you say opr broadcast anything they didn't like they were likly to pay you an unfriendly visit. ppl talking like cos hes not in power anymore he isn't a bad man or saying he doesn't matter as much as osama bin laden. saddam killed probably a hundred times as many ppl as osama is responsible for if not more. but then i guess they're not important because they weren't american right?
1. Saddam brainwashing his citizens and restricting of speech in IRAQ has exactly what to do with you?
2. Yes, he is a bad man. If the US wants to appoint itself the moral judge, jury and executioner, be my guest. But since US troops aint going into the Occupied Territories anytime soon, they have no legitimacy. The war itself is illegal, the current occupation is illegal, thus the hunting down of the head of state of a recognized soveriegn nation is illegal as well.
3. Thats great. But Osama allegedly killed 3000 AMERICANS, thus AMERICANS go after him. Saddam does nothing to no Americans, thus AMERICANS have no business in Iraq.
Just one little, simple, question:
Why are you defending Saddam?
Because he's a bitter man, who thinks HIS moral evaluation of each and every dictator/country is correct, when the U.S. isn't allowed the same generosity he allows hiself. People like him are the reason dictators, etc. exist, they would rather the u.s. sit on their hands while the world withers than accept an ounce of help from us.
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One of the most pathetic comment we can say to comment a war is to talk about civil victims AFTER the war is done, to say "damn, wars are tragic!". "USA bombed shit against children women and innocent men". SAY WHAT? Their deaths are not pathetic, i'm in no way saying it, but it's pathetic to "use" them to comment the war. There's no war without victims, we knew it from 3000 years of history. A war aint a bowling match! If you kill more "enemies" you die. If you dont, you loose. Innocent victims will always be a big part of EVERY war. Now we can argue if it was right for USA/UK to declare war to Saddam/Iraq, but let's judge it BEFORE the bombing shit, cause we knew the drama. Let's judge on the situation. Let's judge on Saddam refusing to collaborate with ONU. Let's judge on 9/11. Let's judge on Bin Laden/Saddam connection (if there's one). Let's judge on Bush wanting to protect USA, and to "clean" Middle-East from dangerous dictators. Let's judge on those things, not on innocent victims. Like if a war can be done witouth them!!
I wonder if you relate to what Ive just said? I said he was no threat. what has that to do wit pathetic or not pathetic victims?
ok and how you want it, I judge on your marked stuff.
9/11: you got it comin and it was very favorably for you.
No connection between saddam and bin laden. but between rumsfeld and saddam, and between bin laden and bush. haha.
bush doesnt want to protect the usa, in fact, terrorists feel even more hate after this shit and saddam was - FOR THE FOURTH TIME - NO THEAT TO THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE.
and about the "cleaning" thing... how honorable, just like the nazis who wanted to clean the world from non-white people.
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From an extroverted point of view I think its to late to start a sensible debate wit you or ANY-body of your pro-american patriotic crew
I aint disappointed cause saddam's gonna be fucked now, he was a bitch nigga.
but.. why the hell shall I like it?? He had no power any more. he was no threat beforehand as well, but aight, it's no question he wasnt since he was in this dark, muddy hole.
so what the hell is great about that then? do you think things in iraq will get better now? do you think noone will hate the usa no more? what do you expect? maybe you are the one living in his own world my american friend.
ok here's somethings, once again you live in your cushy comfortable home talking shit about another country....he had no power before? i'm sure that mass graves are how iraqis love to bury thier loved ones. talk about it don't be about it...that "bitch nigga" ruled a whole nation and was involved killing thousands of people and you sit on a fucking computer and talk shit...that makes you a little fucking worthless pussy of a girl.
and i don't mind living in my own american world cause we got all these countries with us and now we got germany, france and russia acting like some bitch ass ex girlfriends asking if they can get back with us....we just have to wait and see if america loves them hoes ;D
these "you-sit-in-your-comfortable-home-talkin-shit" is so stupid I wont even arguein on it, just tell me what the hell is you thinkn sayin this? LoL
I dont say he didnt do shit fella, Im just sayin he was NO threat AT ALL for the western world...
especially after america bombed the shit on children women and men during march, he had no power... no power .. absolutely no power.. FACE IT...
c'mon snitchez, accept it. you just captured an old broken helpless men who hided in a muddy hole for months. no big deal. you suck. deal wit it. cause Im startin to feel stupid arguein over the obvious truth.
(+ these comments of happy iraqis happen to be faked, like the cheerful palastinians where after 9/11)
so if someone killed your whole family and all your friends but then lived in a run down shack...it's no use of catching him? you ever heard of JUSTICE little girl? he committed thousands of crimes but just cause he was living in a shack we shouldn't worry about him...i'd love to see the fantasy world you live. once again....if you're a computer nerd like you are, don't talk about things you only see on the TV....now if you want to complain about how bad bill gates is, you're free to do so since all you do is sit on a computer and talk shit. but when it comes to war....be a good little girl and shut your mouth
and to stilldre, yes we should get osama and that will take time but as for korea, we're only stepping in to save face, you actually think ANY of those nuclear missles would hit any US territories? we have satillites that can read the year of a nickle in a midget's pocket. i'm pretty sure we could see a 1 megaton nuclear rocket fueling up/flying and scramble some f14's off of a carrier to blow them up over a large part of ocean. korea really poses no threat to the US. terrorist countries rich in oil however are better targets
cmon please dont talk nonsense :D
your argumentation is I cant face a opinion on USA Politics and War because I have a Computer and no AK at home.
C'mon, you can do better smerlus, we both know that.
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just a comment to add u think we get brainwashed, saddam controlled everything in iraq plus there was no freedom of speach if you say opr broadcast anything they didn't like they were likly to pay you an unfriendly visit. ppl talking like cos hes not in power anymore he isn't a bad man or saying he doesn't matter as much as osama bin laden. saddam killed probably a hundred times as many ppl as osama is responsible for if not more. but then i guess they're not important because they weren't american right?
1. Saddam brainwashing his citizens and restricting of speech in IRAQ has exactly what to do with you?
2. Yes, he is a bad man. If the US wants to appoint itself the moral judge, jury and executioner, be my guest. But since US troops aint going into the Occupied Territories anytime soon, they have no legitimacy. The war itself is illegal, the current occupation is illegal, thus the hunting down of the head of state of a recognized soveriegn nation is illegal as well.
3. Thats great. But Osama allegedly killed 3000 AMERICANS, thus AMERICANS go after him. Saddam does nothing to no Americans, thus AMERICANS have no business in Iraq.
show me where it says this war is illegal.
like i said, the UN gave iraq a deadline, nah scratch that NUMEROUS deadlines and they didn't adhere to one....so it's about time someone stood up for the UN and made it look like it had a back bone....
plus if it's so illegal, why are the countries that were against it, all of a sudden trying to make deals with us?
also if a countries people are getting massacred by it's own leader and they have no power to stand up to them....the whole world should just let that slide? nah that shit played out with hitler...Sadaam is a criminal and since his own country couldn't do shit against him it took another country...
you anti american bitches are acting like we just bombed the fuck out of a innocent country like sweden, and captured it's leader that never did shit to no one. i wish some of you had your families killed so you'd stop talking shit and realize that what we did was justice
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just a comment to add u think we get brainwashed, saddam controlled everything in iraq plus there was no freedom of speach if you say opr broadcast anything they didn't like they were likly to pay you an unfriendly visit. ppl talking like cos hes not in power anymore he isn't a bad man or saying he doesn't matter as much as osama bin laden. saddam killed probably a hundred times as many ppl as osama is responsible for if not more. but then i guess they're not important because they weren't american right?
1. Saddam brainwashing his citizens and restricting of speech in IRAQ has exactly what to do with you?
2. Yes, he is a bad man. If the US wants to appoint itself the moral judge, jury and executioner, be my guest. But since US troops aint going into the Occupied Territories anytime soon, they have no legitimacy. The war itself is illegal, the current occupation is illegal, thus the hunting down of the head of state of a recognized soveriegn nation is illegal as well.
3. Thats great. But Osama allegedly killed 3000 AMERICANS, thus AMERICANS go after him. Saddam does nothing to no Americans, thus AMERICANS have no business in Iraq.
show me where it says this war is illegal.
like i said, the UN gave iraq a deadline, nah scratch that NUMEROUS deadlines and they didn't adhere to one....so it's about time someone stood up for the UN and made it look like it had a back bone....
plus if it's so illegal, why are the countries that were against it, all of a sudden trying to make deals with us?
also if a countries people are getting massacred by it's own leader and they have no power to stand up to them....the whole world should just let that slide? nah that shit played out with hitler...Sadaam is a criminal and since his own country couldn't do shit against him it took another country...
you anti american bitches are acting like we just bombed the fuck out of a innocent country like sweden, and captured it's leader that never did shit to no one. i wish some of you had your families killed so you'd stop talking shit and realize that what we did was justice
1. see a psychiatrist you sick bastard
2. AMERICA IS NOT THE WORLD POLICE WHO IS AUTHORIZED TO JUDGE OVER OTHER COUNTRIES. FACE IT.
3. I forgive you, crack kills.
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One of the most pathetic comment we can say to comment a war is to talk about civil victims AFTER the war is done, to say "damn, wars are tragic!". "USA bombed shit against children women and innocent men". SAY WHAT? Their deaths are not pathetic, i'm in no way saying it, but it's pathetic to "use" them to comment the war. There's no war without victims, we knew it from 3000 years of history. A war aint a bowling match! If you kill more "enemies" you die. If you dont, you loose. Innocent victims will always be a big part of EVERY war. Now we can argue if it was right for USA/UK to declare war to Saddam/Iraq, but let's judge it BEFORE the bombing shit, cause we knew the drama. Let's judge on the situation. Let's judge on Saddam refusing to collaborate with ONU. Let's judge on 9/11. Let's judge on Bin Laden/Saddam connection (if there's one). Let's judge on Bush wanting to protect USA, and to "clean" Middle-East from dangerous dictators. Let's judge on those things, not on innocent victims. Like if a war can be done witouth them!!
I wonder if you relate to what Ive just said? I said he was no threat. what has that to do wit pathetic or not pathetic victims?
ok and how you want it, I judge on your marked stuff.
9/11: you got it comin and it was very favorably for you.
No connection between saddam and bin laden. but between rumsfeld and saddam, and between bin laden and bush. haha.
bush doesnt want to protect the usa, in fact, terrorists feel even more hate after this shit and saddam was - FOR THE FOURTH TIME - NO THEAT TO THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE.
and about the "cleaning" thing... how honorable, just like the nazis who wanted to clean the world from non-white people.
Man i was talking in general, nothing personal. Anyway now i know more about your position. Just two things: the first is that i aint American (just to let you know), and the second one is: what you mean with "you got it comin and it was very favorably for you"?
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just a comment to add u think we get brainwashed, saddam controlled everything in iraq plus there was no freedom of speach if you say opr broadcast anything they didn't like they were likly to pay you an unfriendly visit. ppl talking like cos hes not in power anymore he isn't a bad man or saying he doesn't matter as much as osama bin laden. saddam killed probably a hundred times as many ppl as osama is responsible for if not more. but then i guess they're not important because they weren't american right?
1. Saddam brainwashing his citizens and restricting of speech in IRAQ has exactly what to do with you?
2. Yes, he is a bad man. If the US wants to appoint itself the moral judge, jury and executioner, be my guest. But since US troops aint going into the Occupied Territories anytime soon, they have no legitimacy. The war itself is illegal, the current occupation is illegal, thus the hunting down of the head of state of a recognized soveriegn nation is illegal as well.
3. Thats great. But Osama allegedly killed 3000 AMERICANS, thus AMERICANS go after him. Saddam does nothing to no Americans, thus AMERICANS have no business in Iraq.
show me where it says this war is illegal.
like i said, the UN gave iraq a deadline, nah scratch that NUMEROUS deadlines and they didn't adhere to one....so it's about time someone stood up for the UN and made it look like it had a back bone....
plus if it's so illegal, why are the countries that were against it, all of a sudden trying to make deals with us?
also if a countries people are getting massacred by it's own leader and they have no power to stand up to them....the whole world should just let that slide? nah that shit played out with hitler...Sadaam is a criminal and since his own country couldn't do shit against him it took another country...
you anti american bitches are acting like we just bombed the fuck out of a innocent country like sweden, and captured it's leader that never did shit to no one. i wish some of you had your families killed so you'd stop talking shit and realize that what we did was justice
1. see a psychiatrist you sick bastard
2. AMERICA IS NOT THE WORLD POLICE WHO IS AUTHORIZED TO JUDGE OVER OTHER COUNTRIES. FACE IT.
3. I forgive you, crack kills.
yeah we're not the world police but we get blamed for everything that happens from scared ass little people like you.
and i'm not going to hide behind pleasantries because i'm not running for office. you know why people are happy america is in iraq? cause sadaam wipped out thier friends and families and they couldn't do anything to stop it...they had to sit there every day and couldn't say a word about a man that slaughtered loved ones...so once again, while you sit in your little room after you leave high school and talk shit about a country that brought a mass murdering-genocidal maniac down from his throne...you should instead think for a second on how his victims families feel about finally being able to say something about that man and not have to worry about his wrath anymore.
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LOL @ some misinformed fucks defending a man who killed 300.000+++ people.
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LOL @ some misinformed fucks defending a man who killed 300.000+++ people.
that sums it up, you hate america so much that you'd rather side with a criminal. you live some sad pathetic lives....let me tell you a little secret america haters....all these rappers you listen to are american also ;D
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LOL @ some misinformed fucks defending a man who killed 300.000+++ people.
that sums it up, you hate america so much that you'd rather side with a criminal. you live some sad pathetic lives....let me tell you a little secret america haters....all these rappers you listen to are american also ;D
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I don't know how you took it, but I was of course referring to Saddam Hussein.
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I think he was agreeing with you. Again, like in most of this stuff, it can be summed up with just what you said: he was an evil man, he got what he deserved, no matter how it happened, or what reason it happened, or who did it. I don't even know why we're arguing about it, who cares about Saddam Hussein? He got what he deserved.
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LOL @ some misinformed fucks defending a man who killed 300.000+++ people.
;D
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I am being accused of defending Saddam, yet I am the only one on WCC to be directly affected by his policies
what does this tell u? it tells u a bunch of no nothings front like they know something
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tech you're a punk ass plain and simple
slavery didn't effect many whites but thousands of them died with an intent on ending it and returning the southern states to the union.
the civil rights act didn't effect many anglos during the 60's but more anglos pushed for equal rights than any other race.
when california texas arizona and the entire south western united states was at war with mexico, many people who were not directly effected by this war took sides from all over the world !
point being .....people fight for what they believe in
but it's hard reasoning with someone who thinks the dpgc album is better than dogg food
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One of the most pathetic comment we can say to comment a war is to talk about civil victims AFTER the war is done, to say "damn, wars are tragic!". "USA bombed shit against children women and innocent men". SAY WHAT? Their deaths are not pathetic, i'm in no way saying it, but it's pathetic to "use" them to comment the war. There's no war without victims, we knew it from 3000 years of history. A war aint a bowling match! If you kill more "enemies" you die. If you dont, you loose. Innocent victims will always be a big part of EVERY war. Now we can argue if it was right for USA/UK to declare war to Saddam/Iraq, but let's judge it BEFORE the bombing shit, cause we knew the drama. Let's judge on the situation. Let's judge on Saddam refusing to collaborate with ONU. Let's judge on 9/11. Let's judge on Bin Laden/Saddam connection (if there's one). Let's judge on Bush wanting to protect USA, and to "clean" Middle-East from dangerous dictators. Let's judge on those things, not on innocent victims. Like if a war can be done witouth them!!
I wonder if you relate to what Ive just said? I said he was no threat. what has that to do wit pathetic or not pathetic victims?
ok and how you want it, I judge on your marked stuff.
9/11: you got it comin and it was very favorably for you.
No connection between saddam and bin laden. but between rumsfeld and saddam, and between bin laden and bush. haha.
bush doesnt want to protect the usa, in fact, terrorists feel even more hate after this shit and saddam was - FOR THE FOURTH TIME - NO THEAT TO THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE.
and about the "cleaning" thing... how honorable, just like the nazis who wanted to clean the world from non-white people.
Man i was talking in general, nothing personal. Anyway now i know more about your position. Just two things: the first is that i aint American (just to let you know), and the second one is: what you mean with "you got it comin and it was very favorably for you"?
First: If you are not american it makes barely a difference to me, I dont hate americans I hate american politics and I disagree wit anybody who likes their politics.
Second: I meant the USA provoked the situation, somethin like 9/11 had to happen. Im not sayin it was justified, but you had to reckon of a retaliation from the Arab World. Besides, it was a big advantage for the USA that the WTC was destoryed. For instance, the could invade Afghanistan, Iraq and many more (in future). Which would have been impossible witout 9/11. that these wars are a huge favor for america, no doubt bout that.
Third: I dont defend Saddam @ Jome in case you refered to me
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I am being accused of defending Saddam, yet I am the only one on WCC to be directly affected by his policies
what does this tell u? it tells u a bunch of no nothings front like they know something
Dude, you're so out of touch with reality you don't even recognize BAD and GOOD anymore. If it's something you don't like, you label it as good, but then the player pass you give Saddam because he's a BROTHER you don't extend to the U.S., a country which has obviously done the world a great favor just now. You're more content though to look for the bad in America and the good in Saddam. Grow the fuck up. If you can't even see black and white, you have absolutely no relevance to any kind of discussion on here, becuase you're so jaded by your hatred for America and the "jews" that run it you can't even tell good from bad, right from wrong.
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I am being accused of defending Saddam, yet I am the only one on WCC to be directly affected by his policies
what does this tell u? it tells u a bunch of no nothings front like they know something
And AGAIN, we're getting tired of you pulling this "You know nothing! I am the only one who can comment! I have experience!" bullshit. I didn't see CANADA helping us out over there when we were tracking this mother fucker down who's policies DIRECTLY EFFECTED you. Why didn't you put your money where your mouth was and go help our boys out? You act like you're some fucking afgan warrior or something, you're not shit. Your opinion is no more valid than anybody else's, stop playing that condescending bullshit where you think you're more intelligent than everybody on the board, because if we started dropping our IQ scores, Mine would break your keyboard.
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First: If you are not american it makes barely a difference to me, I dont hate americans I hate american politics and I disagree wit anybody who likes their politics.
Second: I meant the USA provoked the situation, somethin like 9/11 had to happen. Im not sayin it was justified, but you had to reckon of a retaliation from the Arab World. Besides, it was a big advantage for the USA that the WTC was destoryed. For instance, the could invade Afghanistan, Iraq and many more (in future). Which would have been impossible witout 9/11. that these wars are a huge favor for america, no doubt bout that.
First: i know. I just wrote it cause you wrote "you" (like if i was American).
Second: You know Bin Laden is mad at Middle Eastern countries more than the U.S.A., you know it, right? Or you are so misinformed? You know Bin Laden is just a terrorist and not a martyr, right? You know it? You know his organization killed jews in Turkey, and civils both in USA than in Bali and other countries all over the world, right? You know he bombed Red Cross, Italian police (with Iraqi citizen crying with/for us) and O.N.U., right? You know Germany is the n.1 (or 2) creditor of the world WITH FRANCE of Iraq/Saddam, right? You know all those things, right?
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First: If you are not american it makes barely a difference to me, I dont hate americans I hate american politics and I disagree wit anybody who likes their politics.
Second: I meant the USA provoked the situation, somethin like 9/11 had to happen. Im not sayin it was justified, but you had to reckon of a retaliation from the Arab World. Besides, it was a big advantage for the USA that the WTC was destoryed. For instance, the could invade Afghanistan, Iraq and many more (in future). Which would have been impossible witout 9/11. that these wars are a huge favor for america, no doubt bout that.
First: i know. I just wrote it cause you wrote "you" (like if i was American).
Second: You know Bin Laden is mad at Middle Eastern countries more than the U.S.A., you know it, right? Or you are so misinformed? You know Bin Laden is just a terrorist and not a martyr, right? You know it? You know his organization killed jews in Turkey, and civils both in USA than in Bali and other countries all over the world, right? You know he bombed Red Cross, Italian police (with Iraqi citizen crying with/for us) and O.N.U., right? You know Germany is the n.1 (or 2) creditor of the world WITH FRANCE of Iraq/Saddam, right? You know all those things, right?
don't forget russia had big interests too
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It's the third one, i know. I talked about Germany cause he's from Germany. But the whole world know it's Germany, France and Russia. The 3 biggest creditors of Saddam.
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First: If you are not american it makes barely a difference to me, I dont hate americans I hate american politics and I disagree wit anybody who likes their politics.
Second: I meant the USA provoked the situation, somethin like 9/11 had to happen. Im not sayin it was justified, but you had to reckon of a retaliation from the Arab World. Besides, it was a big advantage for the USA that the WTC was destoryed. For instance, the could invade Afghanistan, Iraq and many more (in future). Which would have been impossible witout 9/11. that these wars are a huge favor for america, no doubt bout that.
First: i know. I just wrote it cause you wrote "you" (like if i was American).
Second: You know Bin Laden is mad at Middle Eastern countries more than the U.S.A., you know it, right? Or you are so misinformed? You know Bin Laden is just a terrorist and not a martyr, right? You know it? You know his organization killed jews in Turkey, and civils both in USA than in Bali and other countries all over the world, right? You know he bombed Red Cross, Italian police (with Iraqi citizen crying with/for us) and O.N.U., right? You know Germany is the n.1 (or 2) creditor of the world WITH FRANCE of Iraq/Saddam, right? You know all those things, right?
but I think you also know you cant take the holy land of muslims etc witout being ready for ANY kind of retaliation.
America got it commin.
It's their foolish pride. yea, America's foolish pride. It's the origin of all this genocide.
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what i don't get is....people believe in religions and shit....so in that case that land belongs to the jewish before the arabs so it's thier land...
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First: If you are not american it makes barely a difference to me, I dont hate americans I hate american politics and I disagree wit anybody who likes their politics.
Second: I meant the USA provoked the situation, somethin like 9/11 had to happen. Im not sayin it was justified, but you had to reckon of a retaliation from the Arab World. Besides, it was a big advantage for the USA that the WTC was destoryed. For instance, the could invade Afghanistan, Iraq and many more (in future). Which would have been impossible witout 9/11. that these wars are a huge favor for america, no doubt bout that.
First: i know. I just wrote it cause you wrote "you" (like if i was American).
Second: You know Bin Laden is mad at Middle Eastern countries more than the U.S.A., you know it, right? Or you are so misinformed? You know Bin Laden is just a terrorist and not a martyr, right? You know it? You know his organization killed jews in Turkey, and civils both in USA than in Bali and other countries all over the world, right? You know he bombed Red Cross, Italian police (with Iraqi citizen crying with/for us) and O.N.U., right? You know Germany is the n.1 (or 2) creditor of the world WITH FRANCE of Iraq/Saddam, right? You know all those things, right?
but I think you also know you cant take the holy land of muslims etc witout being ready for ANY kind of retaliation.
Retaliation? Man that's where you are wrong!!! RETALIATION BY WHO???
Common people in Iraq aint retaliating against US soldiers. They happy as fuck Saddam aint there no more. Or you talked about Bin Laden? Cause, like i wrote, he is mad as fuck against moderate muslim nations too. More than he is against USA. So who is retaliating against who? Bin Laden against USA? Naaaaaaaaa. Iraqi against USA? Naaaaaaaa. Man it's terrorism, not a war. TERRORISM. They're retaliating against Red Cross, ONU and Italian Police too? They are retaliating against civils in Iraq too? They are retaliating against Jews in Turkey too? Or youngs in Bali? Or Saudi Arabia?
That's where you wrong, man! It's terrorism. Not retaliation.
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Great day for the world.
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If you ask me, and you all know I was against the war, I think this was a GREAT day for the world. So what if he was helpless, he still is a mass murderer and should be tried as such. Whether or not you like bush, i think it is importantant that saddam be brought to justice. The only problem I have is how he will be tried. Should he be tried by the International Criminal Court? I dont think so, as america refuses to let its own citizens be tried by it, so why the double standard? Or the war crimes tribunal? the iraqis? or the americans?
Maybe looking at a smaller scale would help. If a murderer was caught, who would try him? The victims family (iraq)? No, to much emotion for a fair trial. The arresting officer (america)? Too many other motives. I think the only fair option is the War Crimes Tribunal which has tried the likes of slobodon milosevic.
Anyway, its brilliant that he has been caught and at least something good came of the crazy war.
Just a side note ... did the video of saddam remind anybody of the video of american pow's, which recieved such angry reactions from the us government? Surely this too breaches the geneva convention (he is after all a human being too, and rules should apply to evryone)
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I don't even care if it breaches the geneva convention. We're above the law.
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I don't even care if it breaches the geneva convention. We're above the law.
He's deadly right in his cynicism
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Study the english language a bit more and come back when you're ready. Nothing I said was cynical.
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Study the english language a bit more and come back when you're ready. Nothing I said was cynical.
I know.
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It's all about the oil. Always has been, always will be. We don't give a fuck about the Iraqi people, we don't give a fuck about any of the Arabs. If we did, we would be in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc. We like Egypt's dictator because he does what we tell him. We don't care how cruel he is to his people, as long as he's our little bitch. In fact, Egypt and Morocco are so horrible that Arabs are threatened to be sent there for prison terms if they don't cooperate with the U.S. intelligence personnel. Do we give a fuck? Of course not. Did we give a fuck when Saddam was killing his people? No. We said "here's some new weapons, try them, and see how they work out for you". If we cared about the Iraqi people, no sanctions would have been placed upon them. The sanctions killed many Iraqis (civilian deaths are also going against the Geneva Convention, which we don't seem to give a fuck about). Everytime a dictator or cruel leader turns against the U.S. then we recognize him as being one. That's always been the case. Central America, the Middle East... self-interest. The people are worthless to us.
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^ You're an idiot.
if it was about the oil, we would just TAKE THEIR COUNTRY. Since we HAVEN'T, it must not be about the oil! Simple as that.
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
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Just take their country? We don't want the country, we want the oil. That's my whole point, and you just proved me correct by saying that "we're not taking the whole country". LOL.
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
I know man, and everybody keeps ignoring this. Also, the United Nations was making a percentage off of every barrel of oil sold under Iraq's "food for oil" program, and, surprise surprise! the U.N. and Anon weren't behind the war! They even made 17 proclamations threatening action against Iraq, and then never acted on any of them! Why would that be? Maybe they didn't want to give up the 2 billion dollars a year they were making off Iraq's oil sales. "Oil for Food" was the most corrupt money making scheme the U.N. has ever been involved in. Saddam wasn't even spending the money on food! He was buying fucking helicopters and shit, and building wanna-be disneylands in the desert while his people starved to death.
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
Are you saying Oil plays no role in this war?
Are you also denying that Henry Kissinger never said that we have to get the oil out of the hands of the Arabs?
Educate yourself
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Just take their country? We don't want the country, we want the oil. That's my whole point, and you just proved me correct by saying that "we're not taking the whole country". LOL.
Then we'd take the oil! I don't see any u.s. flags on the Oil Rigs over there. Grow up, your rebellion against the United States puts you in a category of socialists.
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
I know man, and everybody keeps ignoring this. Also, the United Nations was making a percentage off of every barrel of oil sold under Iraq's "food for oil" program, and, surprise surprise! the U.N. and Anon weren't behind the war! They even made 17 proclamations threatening action against Iraq, and then never acted on any of them! Why would that be? Maybe they didn't want to give up the 2 billion dollars a year they were making off Iraq's oil sales. "Oil for Food" was the most corrupt money making scheme the U.N. has ever been involved in. Saddam wasn't even spending the money on food! He was buying fucking helicopters and shit, and building wanna-be disneylands in the desert while his people starved to death.
Yes, Saddam was horrible. And who put him in power? And why didn't we do anything about him when the oil fields weren't nationalized?
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Just take their country? We don't want the country, we want the oil. That's my whole point, and you just proved me correct by saying that "we're not taking the whole country". LOL.
Then we'd take the oil! I don't see any u.s. flags on the Oil Rigs over there. Grow up, your rebellion against the United States puts you in a category of socialists.
Of course you don't. You are not in Iraq. LOL, nor would your media tell you "hey we're killing our people as well as iraqis for oil"
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
I know man, and everybody keeps ignoring this. Also, the United Nations was making a percentage off of every barrel of oil sold under Iraq's "food for oil" program, and, surprise surprise! the U.N. and Anon weren't behind the war! They even made 17 proclamations threatening action against Iraq, and then never acted on any of them! Why would that be? Maybe they didn't want to give up the 2 billion dollars a year they were making off Iraq's oil sales. "Oil for Food" was the most corrupt money making scheme the U.N. has ever been involved in. Saddam wasn't even spending the money on food! He was buying fucking helicopters and shit, and building wanna-be disneylands in the desert while his people starved to death.
Yes, Saddam was horrible. And who put him in power? And why didn't we do anything about him when the oil fields weren't nationalized?
Who put him in power? History is full of things like this one. CIA used Saddam to fight a devil who was considered WORSE than Saddam AT THAT TIME. Communists! It's not like CIA made him, or told him "became what you are now, we got you". USA just didnt do shit. But they used Bin Laden too, against Russian. In the WWII, Churchill tried to "use" Mussolini. UK used Stalin against Hitler. UK and France didnt do shit about Hitler conquiring Austria and Polony without shooting a shot. You cant comment on such important things just with a "who put him in power"? That's stupid, no disrespect. You have to consider year by year, what's worse. And who you have to fight first. Who you have to use. And how. Maybe CIA did a mistake, but nobody "created" Hussein. He created himself by killing all his oppositors. Not CIA.
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
I know man, and everybody keeps ignoring this. Also, the United Nations was making a percentage off of every barrel of oil sold under Iraq's "food for oil" program, and, surprise surprise! the U.N. and Anon weren't behind the war! They even made 17 proclamations threatening action against Iraq, and then never acted on any of them! Why would that be? Maybe they didn't want to give up the 2 billion dollars a year they were making off Iraq's oil sales. "Oil for Food" was the most corrupt money making scheme the U.N. has ever been involved in. Saddam wasn't even spending the money on food! He was buying fucking helicopters and shit, and building wanna-be disneylands in the desert while his people starved to death.
Yes, Saddam was horrible. And who put him in power? And why didn't we do anything about him when the oil fields weren't nationalized?
Ask Bill Clinton.
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I am being accused of defending Saddam, yet I am the only one on WCC to be directly affected by his policies
what does this tell u? it tells u a bunch of no nothings front like they know something
And AGAIN, we're getting tired of you pulling this "You know nothing! I am the only one who can comment! I have experience!" bullshit. I didn't see CANADA helping us out over there when we were tracking this mother fucker down who's policies DIRECTLY EFFECTED you. Why didn't you put your money where your mouth was and go help our boys out? You act like you're some fucking afgan warrior or something, you're not shit. Your opinion is no more valid than anybody else's, stop playing that condescending bullshit where you think you're more intelligent than everybody on the board, because if we started dropping our IQ scores, Mine would break your keyboard.
YOU FUCKIN MORON. WHEN YOU WERE PLAYIN AROUND YOUR PICKET FENCE, MY FAMILY WAS FORCIBLY EVICTED FROM KUWAIT. I HAVE MORE OF A REASON TO DESPISE SADDAM THAN U EVER WILL. SO U SITTIN HERE TELLIN ME HOW BAD OF A MAN SADDAM IS IS FUCKIN RIDICOLOUS. THEN U WANNA TALK ABOUT IQS LIKE YOUR A BAD ASS. YOURE A FUCKIN CLOWN. YOU KNOW NOTHING. YOUR TOT POSTS ARE THE MOST NON SENSICAL RUBBISH I HAVE EVER READ. YOU TOW THE BUSH PARTY LINE LIKE A FUCKIN SURROGATE PUPPET.
I COULD ASK YOU 3 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAR ON IRAQ, THEN LAUGH AS YOU STUMBLE ANOTHER ANSWER OUT OF YOUR BUSH DICK STANKIN MOUTH THAT MAKES NO SENSE.
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
I know man, and everybody keeps ignoring this. Also, the United Nations was making a percentage off of every barrel of oil sold under Iraq's "food for oil" program, and, surprise surprise! the U.N. and Anon weren't behind the war! They even made 17 proclamations threatening action against Iraq, and then never acted on any of them! Why would that be? Maybe they didn't want to give up the 2 billion dollars a year they were making off Iraq's oil sales. "Oil for Food" was the most corrupt money making scheme the U.N. has ever been involved in. Saddam wasn't even spending the money on food! He was buying fucking helicopters and shit, and building wanna-be disneylands in the desert while his people starved to death.
Yes, Saddam was horrible. And who put him in power? And why didn't we do anything about him when the oil fields weren't nationalized?
Ask Bill Clinton.
CLINTON DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE NATIONALIZATION OF IRAQI OIL OR THE RISE OF THE BAATH IN IRAQ YOU MORON.
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Whats the big deal? American are still dying and getiing wounded in the Middle East.
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Awwwww. Mommy forgot to pay Tech's cell phone bill again.
YOU ... YOU... YOU MAKE ME SO MAD I'm GONNA YELL AT MY COMPUTER!!!!!!!!
you probably sprained a pinky trying to type that shit out.
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The whole point that seems to be lost on the mentally deficient is that I see something wrong about this whole picture. I smell bullshit. I see Saddam being paraded on TV, I see politicians, news anchors etc gloating, smiling laughing on the capture of a man who did nothing to them. Such large scale adherence to bullshit boggles my mind. This demonization of Saddam is ridicolous. Now, I know Saddam doesnt need any demonization. But you didnt see Americans in an uproar back in the late 80s when the mass killings were going down. ONLY AFTER THE GOVT LAUNCHES A MEDIA BLITZ HIGHLIGHTING THE EVIL OF SADDAM FOR THE SOLE PUPORSE OF TRYING TO LEGITIMIZE AN ILLEGAL WAR do you have all these rednecks on TV, "yeah, I is glad we gots Saddamsss"
Like does something not see anything wrong with this?
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Well said King Tech!!!!!
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Awwwww. Mommy forgot to pay Tech's cell phone bill again.
YOU ... YOU... YOU MAKE ME SO MAD I'm GONNA YELL AT MY COMPUTER!!!!!!!!
you probably sprained a pinky trying to type that shit out.
And youre still a fuckin moron who tows the party line like a dumb brain dead, comotose zombie.
Hey Trauma, wheres the WMD that Rumsfeld said could be identified within 45 minutes?
Hey Trauma, dont u find it odd that after 8 months of being in Iraq they have found nothing?
Hey Trauma, dont you find it wierd that the justification for this war has switched at least three times?
Hey Trauma, isnt it a coincidence that the right wing neo cons have had the most to gain from this war?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that there is no conclusive proof that points to the existence of WMD or Baath connections with international terrorists, how exactly was Iraq a threat to the United States?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that you enjoy tremendously the liberation of Muslims from oppression, and the right to self determination, whether you support the intervention of American troops in the following countries:
Algeria
Egypt
Jordan
Israel/ Occupied Territories
Pakistan
Chechnya
Turkey
LOL @ You still reaching......didnt I put you in your place years ago?
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So lemme get this straight.
Saddam is evil, and was evil. check.
In the late 80's, the U.S. didn't do anything about it. check.
In the early 90's, the U.S. did do somethign about it, but didn't finish the job. check.
In the mid 90's, the U.S. ignored the problem. check.
In the early 2000's, the U.S. invaded Iraq and destroyed the entire government there, eventually ousting the president and holding him prisoner. check.
Now, where in this equation does it become illegal to hate Saddam? where in this equation, does it make it alright for YOU to not like Saddam, but I have no option to dislike Saddam? Where in this equation, do I start giving A RATS ASS about your relationship to Saddam Hussein? I could give a FUCK what Saddam did to your family. I don't like the motherfucker, and from the first time I heard about him, as a fucking child, in 91, I didn't like him. Why is it, that I am being clowned for hating a man who has always been evil, and who I've hated since the day I was aware of his existance?
Grow the fuck up, Tech. You think you're the only one who can make moral judgements. You think that you're the only one who's informed on anything, and that the entire United States are a bunch of hillbillies being told what to believe by the government. I've got a newsflash for you. I'm a good judge of character. If someone was telling me bullshit, I'd see it as bullshit. That's why I see through YOUR bullshit. I don't need people to tell me that you're a fuckup, I can just TELL. Likewise, I can tell that I don't like Saddam Hussein.
Now, I'm sorry that I just don't ignore that he was captured, I'm sorry that I didn't ask you for permission to rejoice at his attainment, but I have my own life to live, and I'll make my own decisions about who to hate, and who not to hate. For you to think that I make my decisions based on the media is amazing. I don't even watch fucking t.v. I search out my own information, like MUCH of America does. The reason America is what it is, where it is, is because assclowns like you underestimate us. So keep on believing that all Americans are idiots, and that we can't tie our own shoelaces, and we'll keep on making all the hard decisions for ants like you who got chased the fuck out of your country. If it wasn't for us, Saddam would be chasing MORE families out of countries, just like you, and you hate that we've helped you. Boo fucking hoo.
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Hey Trauma, wheres the WMD that Rumsfeld said could be identified within 45 minutes?
Hey Trauma, dont u find it odd that after 8 months of being in Iraq they have found nothing?
Hey Trauma, dont you find it wierd that the justification for this war has switched at least three times?
Hey Trauma, isnt it a coincidence that the right wing neo cons have had the most to gain from this war?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that there is no conclusive proof that points to the existence of WMD or Baath connections with international terrorists, how exactly was Iraq a threat to the United States?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that you enjoy tremendously the liberation of Muslims from oppression, and the right to self determination, whether you support the intervention of American troops in the following countries:
Algeria
Egypt
Jordan
Israel/ Occupied Territories
Pakistan
Chechnya
Turkey
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Hey Trauma, wheres the WMD that Rumsfeld said could be identified within 45 minutes?
Hey Trauma, dont u find it odd that after 8 months of being in Iraq they have found nothing?
Hey Trauma, dont you find it wierd that the justification for this war has switched at least three times?
Hey Trauma, isnt it a coincidence that the right wing neo cons have had the most to gain from this war?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that there is no conclusive proof that points to the existence of WMD or Baath connections with international terrorists, how exactly was Iraq a threat to the United States?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that you enjoy tremendously the liberation of Muslims from oppression, and the right to self determination, whether you support the intervention of American troops in the following countries:
Algeria
Egypt
Jordan
Israel/ Occupied Territories
Pakistan
Chechnya
Turkey
First, Rumsfeld never said that there were WMD that could be identified in 45 minutes. UNFORTUNATELY, the media led you to believe he said that. IF YOU WOULD HAVE WATCHED the actual comments, than maybe you could make an intelligent comment here. I imagine you copied and pasted that from some fucking anti-capitalism board you visit or something, or maybe the Afgan to English translation fucked up, but what Rumsfeld said, was that Iraq had weapons that could be DEPLOYED in 45 minutes or less. Do you understand the difference there?
Here, I'll walk you through it. See, IDENTIFIED means that they could be found, and labeled as wmd in 45 minutes. That would be quite impossible, wouldn't it? I mean, I know we have a kick-ass army, but I don't think even Hillary would want the army to find the WMD in 45 minutes. DEPLOYED, on the other hand, means that the WMD could be set up, and USED in less than 45 minutes. You know, kind of like your little arab buddies running around in the desert shooting grenades at Jumbo Jets. Fast shit like that.
Now, even though your ENTIRE FUCKING PREMISE is without merit, becuase Rumsfeld never said that, i'll imagine that you meant where are the WMD that Rumsfeld said EXISTED. We'll just say they EXISTED.
First off, did they exist? Certainly. Any intelligent person can come to that assumption, can't he? Saddam, everybody knows, famously gassed his own people in the early 90's, and those biological weapons are known as weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION. Therefore, yes, the weapons did exist. Also of note, is the fact that Bill Clinton, the former president of the United States, was also of the opinion, in office, and after the war started, that Iraq had "Biological, Chemical, and Nuclear" weapons of Mass Destruction. NUCLEAR. This is from the mouth of President Bush's biggest distractor. Why does he think this? Because he was the head of CIA, the FBI, and had access to the collective intelligence of not only the United States, but other countries such as England's intelligence that led to the fact that Saddam Hussein did in fact have Weapons of Mass Destruction. Clinton even bombed Iraq over this in the late 90's. Since you've just recently started being a zealot, you probably weren't paying attention then.
Not only did Bill Clinton and George Bush feel that Iraq had weapons of Mass Destruction, but the United Nations also felt that he did. They even situated inspectors in his country for 10 years searching for them. Saddam produced documents detailing weapons of mass destruction that he ADMITTED TO HAVING (chemical weapons) to the U.N., and the U.N. even passed 17 resolutions saying that Iraq had wmd, in violation of their peace treaty with the U.S. 17 times the U.N. said they had WMD.
So, we've SEEN saddam use WMD, and the United States and the United Nations for 12 years has thought that Saddam had WMD.
On the other hand; we have Tech. Tech says Saddam doesn't. Tech, who was chased out of Kuwait as a kid by Saddam PERSONALLY on a white horse, KNOWS THE TRUTH. Tech knows, yes, that's right, different than the sum of the intelligence of the United Nations.
Tech. Come off your high horse, buddy. YOU DO NOT KNOW more about this situation than the United Nations does! You just don't, I don't care how many times Saddam raped your mommy (By the way, don't you claim you lived in every country that the United States has a spat with?).
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ROFL! Oil! Oil? Germany, France and Russia take Oil there! And they are the 3 biggest creditors of Saddam Hussein in the WORLD.
I know man, and everybody keeps ignoring this. Also, the United Nations was making a percentage off of every barrel of oil sold under Iraq's "food for oil" program, and, surprise surprise! the U.N. and Anon weren't behind the war! They even made 17 proclamations threatening action against Iraq, and then never acted on any of them! Why would that be? Maybe they didn't want to give up the 2 billion dollars a year they were making off Iraq's oil sales. "Oil for Food" was the most corrupt money making scheme the U.N. has ever been involved in. Saddam wasn't even spending the money on food! He was buying fucking helicopters and shit, and building wanna-be disneylands in the desert while his people starved to death.
Yes, Saddam was horrible. And who put him in power? And why didn't we do anything about him when the oil fields weren't nationalized?
Ask Bill Clinton.
LOL. If you think Saddam's terror began in the 90s you're a fool. Saddam's been doing his shit for decades, but the U.S. didn't give a fuck. We gave him weapons. Since he hooked it up with oil, he was our buddy, but as soon as he nationalized the oil fields, he became a "cruel dictator" (which he always). Once again you prove to us your ignorance.
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^ he didn't say his reign of terror started in the 90's helmet retard
tech you're off your rocker. trauma made an interesting comment about your intellegence that i think holds true. you drop all of this 'knowledge' about foriegn affairs to relative novices on this part of the board...i'll credit you that. but you go on and make RETARDED posts concerning musical, personal, and social matters. my point being here is, if you can't seperate good and bad in relatively simple subjects.......how credible are you when it comes to complex matters?
and no i don't believe this war is for oil.......to go back to page 4's lil argument. when this war first broke out i thought it was......hey i drive a monster GT mustang that chugs gas like beer at a kegger AND live in california home of high gas prices, i was anticipating a price break. but FUCK gas is still damn near 2 bucks a gallon STILL! STIIIIIIIIIIIILL. if the US's mission was the oil we certainly failed terribley
THE ONLY THING THE US ACCOMPLISHED WITH THIS WAR IS:
-overturning an evil government
-getting rid of an evil leader and his evil sons
-stimulating the economy
-defense stocks and jobs rose
every time i hear these little cynical pricks say
"the us is only in iraq for oil" i laugh my ass off
the worst thing i can think of that the us is doing over there is US companies are making a profit off of rebuilding the country.
morally it feels wrong cuz it's exploitation. but i can't say i blame us , the whole world basically turned their backs on us.....but i think the contracts should be divided equally with the willing countries.
that's one of the only things i can say i don't like about this war.
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oh and about putting saddam on trial.
i think the people of iraq should convict him.....i think that's MORE than fair. if a world wide court was set up i think it'd take forever like melosivic's (spelling?) trial....which correct me if i'm wrong....is still going on. (?)
anyways back to the people convicting saddam. if they choose to hang him from his nuts in Baghdad square, than so be it. if they have him take an acid bath....so be it. I think that'd be better to have than have him sit in some soft ass wanna be so called prison in norway.
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Don, Please know... no matter WHAT the U.S. does in the world, and no matter WHAT we decide to do with Saddam, it won't be enough for anybody. We'll get slammed, and shit on, by half the world, and probably every single muslim country in the world, because they see absolutely no good in us, to them, we're just a big evil empire fucking everybody over. So again, it doesn't even matter what we do with Saddam, nobody will appreciate it anyways.
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It's all about the oil. Always has been, always will be. We don't give a fuck about the Iraqi people, we don't give a fuck about any of the Arabs. If we did, we would be in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc. We like Egypt's dictator because he does what we tell him. We don't care how cruel he is to his people, as long as he's our little bitch. In fact, Egypt and Morocco are so horrible that Arabs are threatened to be sent there for prison terms if they don't cooperate with the U.S. intelligence personnel. Do we give a fuck? Of course not. Did we give a fuck when Saddam was killing his people? No. We said "here's some new weapons, try them, and see how they work out for you". If we cared about the Iraqi people, no sanctions would have been placed upon them. The sanctions killed many Iraqis (civilian deaths are also going against the Geneva Convention, which we don't seem to give a fuck about). Everytime a dictator or cruel leader turns against the U.S. then we recognize him as being one. That's always been the case. Central America, the Middle East... self-interest. The people are worthless to us.
u got a point....its the americans fukin fault for suppling iraq those fukin weapons...damn capitalistic society...but i know its wrong what america did, however im still kinda with them cause im a greedy ass fuck thats been born into this capitalistic hellhole
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Just take their country? We don't want the country, we want the oil. That's my whole point, and you just proved me correct by saying that "we're not taking the whole country". LOL.
Then we'd take the oil! I don't see any u.s. flags on the Oil Rigs over there. Grow up, your rebellion against the United States puts you in a category of socialists.
well to represent a neutral and peaceful nation america would never do that, its all in the slow background process by hiding shit from the world....i aint hating and shit but its all undercover stuff, otherwise usa would be considered as a stealer in everyones eyes
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First, Rumsfeld never said that there were WMD that could be identified in 45 minutes. UNFORTUNATELY, the media led you to believe he said that. IF YOU WOULD HAVE WATCHED the actual comments, than maybe you could make an intelligent comment here. I imagine you copied and pasted that from some fucking anti-capitalism board you visit or something, or maybe the Afgan to English translation fucked up, but what Rumsfeld said, was that Iraq had weapons that could be DEPLOYED in 45 minutes or less. Do you understand the difference there?
OK POINT MADE. I MISINTERPRETATED INFORMATION. NOW LET US OBSERVE TRAUMA GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS ONE OF MANY POINTS I BROUGHT UP.
Here, I'll walk you through it. See, IDENTIFIED means that they could be found, and labeled as wmd in 45 minutes. That would be quite impossible, wouldn't it? I mean, I know we have a kick-ass army, but I don't think even Hillary would want the army to find the WMD in 45 minutes. DEPLOYED, on the other hand, means that the WMD could be set up, and USED in less than 45 minutes. You know, kind of like your little arab buddies running around in the desert shooting grenades at Jumbo Jets. Fast shit like that.
I UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION. THANK YOU.
Now, even though your ENTIRE FUCKING PREMISE is without merit, becuase Rumsfeld never said that, i'll imagine that you meant where are the WMD that Rumsfeld said EXISTED. We'll just say they EXISTED.
OK THATS GREAT. THANKS.
First off, did they exist? Certainly. Any intelligent person can come to that assumption, can't he? Saddam, everybody knows, famously gassed his own people in the early 90's, and those biological weapons are known as weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION. Therefore, yes, the weapons did exist. Also of note, is the fact that Bill Clinton, the former president of the United States, was also of the opinion, in office, and after the war started, that Iraq had "Biological, Chemical, and Nuclear" weapons of Mass Destruction. NUCLEAR. This is from the mouth of President Bush's biggest distractor. Why does he think this? Because he was the head of CIA, the FBI, and had access to the collective intelligence of not only the United States, but other countries such as England's intelligence that led to the fact that Saddam Hussein did in fact have Weapons of Mass Destruction. Clinton even bombed Iraq over this in the late 90's. Since you've just recently started being a zealot, you probably weren't paying attention then.
CLINTON BOMBED IRAQ IN THE LATE 80S FOR ITS OBSTRUCTION OF THE NO FLY ZONES AND ITS REFUSAL TO COMPLY WITH UN INSPECTORS. NOONE IS DENYING IRAQ HAD NUCLEAR AMBITIONS OR MAY HAVE HAD CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS AT ONE POINT. THEY HAD CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN THE LATE 80S, AND THE IRAQIS WERE WELL ON THE WAY TO HAVING A NUKE UNTIL THE ISRAELIS BOMBED THAT REACTOR IN 1981. THE 1980-88 IRAN/IRAQ WAR TOOK ALOT OF RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE NUCLEAR PROGRAM, AND THE SUBSEQUENT GULF WAR AND UN SANCTIONS COMPLETELY DESTROYED ANY SEMBLANCE OF A NUCLEAR PROGRAM. SO NO, MY FRIEND, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT SADDAM HAD A FULL FUNCTIONING NUCLEAR PROGRAM POST GULF WAR. SO IF THE US IS GOING TO WAR OVER WMD, ITS MAD AT THE FACT IRAQ WAS TRYING TO MAKE NUKE IN THE 80;S.
Not only did Bill Clinton and George Bush feel that Iraq had weapons of Mass Destruction, but the United Nations also felt that he did. They even situated inspectors in his country for 10 years searching for them. Saddam produced documents detailing weapons of mass destruction that he ADMITTED TO HAVING (chemical weapons) to the U.N., and the U.N. even passed 17 resolutions saying that Iraq had wmd, in violation of their peace treaty with the U.S. 17 times the U.N. said they had WMD.
WHAT BUSH AND CLINTON FEELS MEANS NOTHING. SECOND, THE UN INSPECTORS ONLY KNEW OF A PRE EXISTING PROGRAM. UPON THE BEGINNING OF INSPECTIONS ALL THEY FOUND WAS REMNANTS AND LEFTOVERS PRE-GULF WAR. I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GULF WAR, SANCTIONS, AND CONSTANT RAIDS AND SORTIES BY BRITS AND US PLANES OVER A DECADE DID TO IRAQ. THE NUKE PROGRAM COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLE SURVIVED. NOW YOURE NOT REALLY SAYING ANYTHING. WE KNOW HE HAD WMD. BUT ON MARCH 2003 WHEN BUSH LAUNCHED THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ, THEY DIDNT HAVE ANY.
So, we've SEEN saddam use WMD, and the United States and the United Nations for 12 years has thought that Saddam had WMD.
THIS PROVES NOTHING YOU FUCKIN RETARD. YOU ARE ATTEMPING THE "BUSH" METHOD OF ARGUING A POINT. KEEP REPEATING THE SAME BULLSHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WHEN GEORGE HERBERT WALKER FUCKIN BUSH LAUNCHED THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ IN MARCH 2003, IRAQ HAD NO WEAPONS. SCOTT RITTER CONFIRMED THIS. HANS BLIX CONFIRMED THIS. MOHAMED EL BARADEI CONFIRMED THIS. THE UN NUCLEAR AGENCY CONFIRMED THIS. THE CI-FUCKIN-A CONFIRMED THIS, BUT GOT TOLD TO SHUT UP.
On the other hand; we have Tech. Tech says Saddam doesn't. Tech, who was chased out of Kuwait as a kid by Saddam PERSONALLY on a white horse, KNOWS THE TRUTH. Tech knows, yes, that's right, different than the sum of the intelligence of the United Nations.
I KNOW WHAT THE UN SAYS. AND THE UN SAYS IRAQ HAD NO WEAPONS AT THE TIME OF THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR. I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO STRESS THIS POINT SO YOU DO NOT EFFECTIVELY HIJACK THIS THREADS PURPOSE WITH BULLSHIT ALA RUMSFELD. THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE WHEN THE WAR WAS LAUNCHED SADDAM HAD NOTHING. HE WAS TELLIN THE TRUTH. YOU ARE DISTORTING WHAT THE UN SAYS. SO TRAUMA HERE, THE SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED NED FLANDERS OF WCC, KNOWS MORE THAN THE UN. WELL GO ON PROF. TRAUMA, CONTINUE WITH YOUR LECTURE,
Tech. Come off your high horse, buddy. YOU DO NOT KNOW more about this situation than the United Nations does! You just don't, I don't care how many times Saddam raped your mommy (By the way, don't you claim you lived in every country that the United States has a spat with?).
OF COURSE I DONT KNOW MORE THAN THE UN KNOWS. I ONLY KNOW WHAT THEY MAKE PUBLIC TO THE SOCIETY VIA MEDIA.
I KNOW THAT THEY CONFIRMED THAT SADDAM DIDNT HAVE SHIT.
THE HEADS OF THE FUCKIN NUCLEAR WATCHDOG OF THE UN SAID THIS. THEY SAID THIS, DONT U UNDERSTAND MAN???????
PS, I HAVE LIVED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES:
PAKISTAN (MUSHARAF SEEN AS US PUPPET)
SAUDI ARABIA (HOUSE OF SAUD DEFINITE US PUPPETS)
AFGHANISTAN (KARZAI= US PUPPET)
KUWAIT (EMIR JABBER IS A US PUPPET)
IRAQ (PAUL BREMER= AMERICAN)
CANADA (ALLY OF USA)
so really man, why did you waste my time ?
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tech you're off your rocker. trauma made an interesting comment about your intellegence that i think holds true. you drop all of this 'knowledge' about foriegn affairs to relative novices on this part of the board...i'll credit you that. but you go on and make RETARDED posts concerning musical, personal, and social matters. my point being here is, if you can't seperate good and bad in relatively simple subjects.......how credible are you when it comes to complex matters?
Now, I aint gonna let u make a claim like this without evidence, or examples.
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Hey Trauma, wheres the WMD that Rumsfeld said could be identified within 45 minutes?
Hey Trauma, dont u find it odd that after 8 months of being in Iraq they have found nothing?
Hey Trauma, dont you find it wierd that the justification for this war has switched at least three times?
Hey Trauma, isnt it a coincidence that the right wing neo cons have had the most to gain from this war?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that there is no conclusive proof that points to the existence of WMD or Baath connections with international terrorists, how exactly was Iraq a threat to the United States?
Hey Trauma, seeing as that you enjoy tremendously the liberation of Muslims from oppression, and the right to self determination, whether you support the intervention of American troops in the following countries:
Algeria
Egypt
Jordan
Israel/ Occupied Territories
Pakistan
Chechnya
Turkey
Well, Tech definately iz a faggot....
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I quote every post made by the homie TECH. He is a smart guy and i respect his views. I was sad to see how even a guy like Trauma has brainwashed views of his nation. FUck all you haters, TEch is 99% on point.