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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: SGV on December 20, 2003, 12:24:09 PM
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Drop your top three(3), only with reasons.
In no order:
Kanye West. His work on the Black Album, his up coming album, Twistas, T.I.'s, well above average. The beats on his mixtapes were knocking.
Lil Jon. Running Hip Hop right now, period. "Damn," "Quick To Back Down," "I Don't Give A Fuck," "Knockin' Heads Off," "Throw It Up," etc.
Neptunes. "What Happened To That Boy" is still one of the hardest beats this year. I don't care what anyone says, their production on that Star Trak album knocked, especially "Rock n Roll." The Kelis track is a hot beat, too.
All of these producers weren't hitting us with the same beat 10 times over.
Honorable mention: R.Kelly. Though he's an R & B producer, he had the hits knocking this year.
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kanye, lil jon, battlecat
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Drop your top three(3), only with reasons.
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lol... finding this one tough... hmm...
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^^^^Drop your top three(3), only with reasons.
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kanye same reasons as you
lil jon same reasons as you
battlecat - boo yaa need i say more
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My #1 is definitely Stoupe. He did great work this year and was involved in two of the best releases of 2003: "Rip The Jacker" and "Visions Of Ghandi". Furthermore he did two classic-beats in my eyes: "Poet Laureate II" and "Animal Rap".
My #2 is Kanye West for the same reasons as SGV mentioned before.
My #3 is Eminem. Although many people hate on his productions, he did great work on "8 Mile", and after that on "Get Rich Or Die Tryin", "Cheers", "The Black Album", etc.
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My #1 is definitely Stoupe. He did great work this year and was involved in two of the best releases of 2003: "Rip The Jacker" and "Visions Of Ghandi". Furthermore he did two classic-beats in my eyes: "Poet Laureate II" and "Animal Rap".
My #2 is Kanye West for the same reasons as SGV mentioned before.
My #3 is Eminem. Although many people hate on his productions, he did great work on "8 Mile", and after that on "Get Rich Or Die Tryin", "Cheers", "The Black Album", etc.
I was thinking Stoupe, but I haven't heard all of Rip The Jacker yet.
Here's why I didn't pick Em:
All of these producers weren't hitting us with the same beat 10 times over.
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1. DJ Premier - he did The Ownerz, along with Royce's new single...and a few other random tracks throughout the year that were hot.
2. Kanye West - same as SGV said
3. 9th Wonder - Little Brother, God's Stepson, Threats (off the black album)...nuff said.
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Only one producer of the year.
Kanye West
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well personally I thought this was the worst year for production ever.
1. ecay uno - mental scars album
2. battlecat - boo yah tribe and eastsidaz bootleg
3. Eminem - black album, the pac remixes, obie trice
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Neptunes - they was everywhere!
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I agree, Kanye West, Neptunes & yeah, R Kelly.
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Haven't decided on the 3 yet but an honorable mention for Swizz for switching from catchy Nintendo tunes to professional studio tracks. :)
Also, Dre did a good job on 50 Cent's In Da Club and Eve's Satisfaction. No one else mentioned him? ???
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Prodeje - because i love SCC ;D
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Khalil and Madlib
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1. R. Kelly: started off the year rough, but the second half of the year, everyone wanted an R. Kelly beat, and he is all over the place, not just on Hip-Hop/rap stations, but on pop stations as well. "Clubbin'", "Giggalo", "Hotel", "Ignition (remix)", "Girlfriend (remix)", and more were bangin
2. Neptunes: same as R. Kelly, but I'm a bigger fan of Kel's beats than the Neptunes. although they come close to R. Kelly with the beat to "Milkshake", which the bitches love
3a. Just Blaze: produced a lot of hits, including "Fire", "Pump it up", "Party and bullshit 2003", and more.
3b. Dr. Dre: helped blow up 50 cent with "In Da Club", and the song "Not today" by eve, which is one of my top 5 favorite Dre beats ever and IMO beat of the year
personally, I'm not a big fan of Kanye West...the sped up vocals are coo for like one or 2 songs, but using it over and over and over and over again and then having producers try to copy it is ridiculous
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i gotta go with these guys
Kanye West - this guys production is off hook and he uses samples so good like primo
Neptunes - they have been all over the place the last 2 years or so and they continue to release dope music
Dr. Dre - for obvious reasons, his work off the G Unit and 50 Cent albums, hopefully we hear some new stuff for 2004
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R KELLY HANDS DOWN HE'S BEEN PUTTING IT DOWN 4444444444 YEARS.....
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Kanye West
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ummmmm kayne is cool but real muthafuccas know all his shit is,is rza production,cuzz ain't start the sped up sample shit either,fucc'n above the law had a sped up sample on ballin and that was bacc in the day yell
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I'm just gonna pick some people nobody else did.
Scott Storch - Finally stepped out of the shadows and produced for some BIG names all on his own. But still has a unique and interesting sound, not really watered down at all.
Timbaland - Still Timbo, just the consumate professional and still always trying new things. eg Heartburn off the new Alicia Keys. very nice
Andre 3000 - Did nobody else hear The Love Below? Production on this was just incredible. Funk, soul, jazz, hip-hop? whatever it was, it was amazing. Oh and original too , an interesting concept in 2003.
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Andre 3000 - Did nobody else hear The Love Below? Production on this was just incredible. Funk, soul, jazz, hip-hop? whatever it was, it was amazing. Oh and original too , an interesting concept in 2003.
Sleeper! Great choice. Forgot about Andre.
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Dj premier - ownerzzzz
battlecat - west koasta nostra
alicia keys - listen to the diary of alicia keys and you will agree...she produced or at least co-produced the majority on the album, let alone the lyrics & vocals
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Kanye West Slow Jamz" is the shit and You Dont know my Name (Alicia Keys) is so great He's gonna be on Top
Lil Jon Everyone was konockin their head to "I dont Give a Fuck" , "Damn" , Quik To bac Down and the "soon-to-be-a-hit" "Come Get Some" By TLC is going to be a great club joint
R.Kelly he was everywhere this year from B2K, Marques Houston, Joe To JS & Isley Brothers in fact most of the R&B single this year were R.Kelly produced tracks...props to the man
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Kanye West Slow Jamz" is the shit and You Dont know my Name (Alicia Keys) is so great He's gonna be on Top
Lil Jon Everyone was konockin their head to "I dont Give a Fuck" , "Damn" , Quik To bac Down and the "soon-to-be-a-hit" "Come Get Some" By TLC is going to be a great club joint
R.Kelly he was everywhere this year from B2K, Marques Houston, Joe To JS & Isley Brothers in fact most of the R&B single this year were R.Kelly produced tracks...props to the man
I gotta agree with ya
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#1: Kanye West: He was amazing this year. From his work on The Black Album ("Encore", "Lucifer") to great beats for artists like DMX ("Dog's Out"), Ludacris ("Stand Up"), Nappy Roots ("These Walls"), and now the new Alicia Keys single ("You Don't Know My Name"), he hit us with tight beats from every angle this year. He also had some nice mixtapes out this year, not to mention the new College Dropout advance which is banging. Hands down the best producer of 2003, in my opinion.
#2: Just Blaze: He impressed me a lot this year. He did some of the biggest singles out this year like Fabolous' "Can't Let You Go", Joe Budden's "Pump It Up", Keith Murray's "Yeah Yeah U Know It", Freeway, Jay-Z & Beanie Sigel's "What We Do" and so on. Being The Roc's head honcho behind the boards, he produced the majority of Freeway and Memphis Bleek's 2003 releases, and also did hot beats on Diplomatic Immunity and The Black Album. A natural choice for #2.
#3: Dr. Dre: Delivered the goods as usual, though he could of been more visible throughout the year. "Poppin' Them Thangs" was his hottest track this year. Did a great job on Obie Trice and 50's albums, "In Da Club" alone solidifies his position in the top 3.
Honorable mentions: Steve Stoupe, 9th Wonder, The Neptunes, Eminem
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i cant believe im the only one who had 9th wonder in the top 3...people sleepin on little brother
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Neptunes. "What Happened To That Boy" is still one of the hardest beats this year. I don't care what anyone says, their production on that Star Trak album knocked, especially "Rock n Roll." The Kelis track is a hot beat, too.
That "Rock N Roll" is my shit...I havent been liking much of the Neptunes beats right now but im definitely feelin that one. Lil Flip came tight on the remix too.
IMO top 3 are:
Dr. Dre: In Da Club alone should put him in the running alone. The track ended up bein played the most ever in radio, helped sell 6 million albums, and everybody and they mama had a remix. Other noticeable beats were Mary J. Blige's "Not Today", his work on Obie Trice's album, "Poppin them Thangs," "G'd Up." He didnt drop as much material as other producers, but those that did come out were straight.
R. Kelly: Kells produced for everyone this year. He beefed up tracks of people you normally wouldnt listen to. He shows no signs of slowing down as he about to do Tyrese's whole album (or much of the production).
Kanye West: Kanye is the type of producer that can work with the underground, less known, and the mainstream and satisfy everyone. He's signed to a big label, but isnt afraid to give back. His work on Alicia Keys and Ludacris will put him in higher demand.
Noteworthy producers: 9th Wonder, DJ Premier, Lil Jon (not a huge fan of his but he's makin paper, so i cant hate).
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1. Eminem ---> The Pac remixes, Obie Trice, GRODT,...
2. Battlecat ---> Boo Yaa TRIBE (tight production, from beginning to end)
3. Young Tre ---> 2003 was the first time I heard from him (Ghetto, Gutter & Gangsta, WSC album,...and I'm feeling his style).
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1) R. Kelly - This man proved once again why I think he's a genius.
2) Dr. Dre - In Da Club, Satisfaction... fuck, this man can make wack rappers have dope songs :o
3) Just Blaze - Been on a lot of records, almost all tight joints.
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1. Eminem-i really really enjoy his shit. plus everything he's done has been finely crafted and perfect
2. Andre 3000- i'm glad i wasn't the first to mention him, because yeah, dude deserves his dues, the love below is the record of the year as far as i'm concerned. also i think i'd put him at number one if he did some outside production. but yeah his shit was on some quincy jones type shit. MAJOR props to the OTHER dre.
other than that i don't feel anyone else deserves a proper prop....dre, timbo, not enough material. neptunes, just blaze, kanye , r kelly, it all sounds the same on the radio hear lately so i can't fully give props.
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#1: Kanye West: I liked as good as every beat I've heard from him and some of them fuckin amazed me; he worked for many artists and always managed to make a beat not only dope but also unique and fitting the song perfectly. 2003's no. 1
#2: Lil' Jon: Everything he did was bangin...not much more to say. Can't stop bumpin "I Don't Give A Fuck"
#3: Primo: The Ownerz. Nuff said
Honorable Mentions: Andre (Bad singer, but great producer), Eminem (improved alot), Neptunes (omnipresent), Stoupe (Rip The Jacker), David Banner ("Like A Pimp" and many more dope songs on his album), Dre (especially cuz of his beats on "Cheers")
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1. Dr.Dre - His work on ''Get Rich Or Die Tryin'', his work on obie trice ''Cheers''.
Remember Shit Hits the fan. Tight beats on the g-Unit album. And good beats for the eve album. The producer of the year for me.
2. Battlecat - He had very tight beats on the booya album.
3. Dj Premier - The Ownerz
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9th Wonder - He produced the album of the year, The Listening, did a nice job with God's Stepson and started the album remixing trend, the Justus League mixtapes that were released this year were very good and finally his big appearance with "Threat".
Da Beatminerz - They were involved greatly in three of the year's most slept-on albums. Duckdown's compilation Collect Dis Edition, The Last Emperor's Music, Magic, Myth and ofcourse Black Moon's Total Eclipse. "Stay Real" is one of the best singles of the year.
Eminem - He lacing 50 Cent's album with a few nice cuts, Obie Trice as well. Redman's "Talking To Dead People", Boo Yaa Tribe's "911", Jay-Z's "Moment Of Clarity", the three 2Pac songs also. Say what you want, I think most of his beats were very nice.
As for Lil' Jon, I can't put him there cause "Quick To Back Down" is the only song of his that I heard. The Neptunes didn't catch my ear with any hot songs (but they did with some shitty ones, example: "Change Clothes & Go".) Kanye West is a good choice but I didnt' listen to the Dipset or Freeway albums. Stoupe is a good choice too, he made some nice beats on those two albums, it's just too bad the MCing wasn't up to par on them. Dr. Dre was all quality but there just wasn't too much quantity.
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Kayne West - Especially loved his stuff on The Black Album. Basically the same reasons as SGV.
Eminem - His stuff on 50's album, the Pac mixes, Obie's album, a dope beat on Jigga's album... The biggest reason for me though is the growth he's displayed. There's simply no comparison with the quality of beats of the stuff he does now and the stuff he did before.
Dr. Dre - I had to consider quite a few people here. Granted, Dre wasn't the most productive guy this year, but what he did produce was straight heat! Wicked stuff on Obie's album, the G-Unit album and of course 50's album. I mean who the fuck didn't love In Da Club? It wasn't just a favourite with hip-hop fans, everybody fuckin' loved it.
Gotta mention a few other people too - 9th wonder, Primo, definately Andre 3000, Timbaland.
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young tre and battlecat
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Had Just Blaze only produced "What We Do" I'da gave him high regards. But, he drowned that MASTERPIECE with garbage from all over the place.
Also, another producer: Brotha Lynch Hung. He did an amazing job on Lynch By Inch. Wish he would've done more.
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9th Wonder - He produced the album of the year, The Listening, did a nice job with God's Stepson and started the album remixing trend, the Justus League mixtapes that were released this year were very good and finally his big appearance with "Threat".
*Clicks props button
*feels a tear coming on for the fact that more people have put lil jon over 9th wonder.
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My list is almost identic with T-Dizzog:
1. Kanye West -
2003 made him a really big name, even if he got a big buzz after "Blueprint", 2003 showed his diversity, and lots of different types of beats. A producer for the future.
2. Dr.Dre -
Dope work on Obie, G-Unit, 50 Cent, MJ Blige..
Best producer on every CD he touches, could easily be @ 1st place as well.
3. DJ Premier -
The Ownerz, new Royce single, & just the thought of M.O.P. collabos in 2004... :-*
Honoroable mentions:
Eminem - The dude everybody loves to hate..
Tight work on Obie, 50, 2Pac, etc... 2003 was the year he really made a impact as producer for other artists.
Stoupe - Great work on Canibus, and pretty cool on JMT..
Scott Storch - Been really active this year, hopefully he'll put in work on the upcoming Mobb Deep & Eminem CD's too..
Timbaland - Everywhere.. all over Bubba & Missy LP's, plus his own project.
Stellar beat for Jigga as well, but need to work more with non-Missy projects..
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what's the new Royce da 5'9" single you guys are talking about??????
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what's the new Royce da 5'9" single you guys are talking about??????
its called "Hip Hop", its produced by premo & will be the first single off royces new album.
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nobody touched kanye this year and for everyone sayin all his beats are sped up samples are ignorant and dont know much about kanye check out ludacris-stand up, jay-z encore, talib kweli- get by, or alicia keys- you dont know my name, theres no sped up samples on those
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My #1 is definitely Stoupe. He did great work this year and was involved in two of the best releases of 2003: "Rip The Jacker" and "Visions Of Ghandi". Furthermore he did two classic-beats in my eyes: "Poet Laureate II" and "Animal Rap".
My #2 is Kanye West for the same reasons as SGV mentioned before.
My #3 is Eminem. Although many people hate on his productions, he did great work on "8 Mile", and after that on "Get Rich Or Die Tryin", "Cheers", "The Black Album", etc.
^fuck yea Stoupe is the shit and he's only gettin' better and better. No1 is doin' beats like him right now. His shit is original and fresh and it's pure hiphop. He's like the next Premo to me. I also agree wit Kanye but Eminem hell muthafuckin' no! hE is the worst producer i've ever heard and all his beats are lame and boring to me... Just curious but what is it that u see in Em's beats??? There terrible... 3rd i'd have 2 go wit my man Alchemist. Alchemist is the shit. The Cutting Room Floor and Insomnia were both sick as fuck. He also laced Bang Bang on Big Noyd's album. It's actually pretty old cuz i had that shit like 2 years ago but it finally got released officially. He also produced that banger Turn It Up on Sheek's album.
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^^ I chose Eminem because he came up this year and was nearly everywhere with his productions (Nas, Jay-Z, 2Pac, 50 Cent, Obie Trice, etc.). I agree that you can recognize a Eminem beat out of 100 beats, but I don't see this as a bad aspect, because SGV for example listed the Neptunes, although I can recognize a Neptunes beat out of 100 beats too (but I have to agree that their production for that Baby/Clipse collabo was tight). And Eminem had many great beats, I especially love that new one for 2Pac's "Runnin'". And this new style he came up with at the time of "8 Mile" was very tight, I love the soundtrack and the Shady tracks he did the last time.
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1-kanye west - his productions gone from sick beats to sick beats that gon make a hit..........his shits been hittin this year no doubt
2 - r kelly - he produced and wrote 30 hits this year man, thats amazing...........i guess since the kids now know about him, he got more time to do make hits instead of doin porn cuts with 14 yr olds
3 - alicia keys - shes easily the most talented cat outside hip hop now imo.....that includes niggaz, she writes, produces and when ya can come out with two str8 sick cds.......and make the 2nd jus as good, if not better than your first, u mad tite, i dont usually rate chicks but she got serious talent
4 )dr dre - nigga didnt do enought joints imo outside his camp but damn, in da club puts him on the list alone..........jome put it best, every cd he comes on, he comes out the sickest, he makes other cats look weak
watch out for fredwreck y'all if he gets a chance to get his beats out, he got mad potentail to blow to, his gettin better n better like kanye
peace
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^^ I chose Eminem because he came up this year and was nearly everywhere with his productions (Nas, Jay-Z, 2Pac, 50 Cent, Obie Trice, etc.). I agree that you can recognize a Eminem beat out of 100 beats, but I don't see this as a bad aspect, because SGV for example listed the Neptunes, although I can recognize a Neptunes beat out of 100 beats too (but I have to agree that their production for that Baby/Clipse collabo was tight). And Eminem had many great beats, I especially love that new one for 2Pac's "Runnin'". And this new style he came up with at the time of "8 Mile" was very tight, I love the soundtrack and the Shady tracks he did the last time.
It's not that you can pull an Eminem beat out of 100. It's that all his beats, to me, sound too similar. The Neptunes flipped it this year. They didn't put out a bunch of beats that sounded the same like the past few years.
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^^^ Excuse Me Miss, Beautiful, Frontin' were virtually the same beat with a very tiny bit of difference.
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1-kanye west - his productions gone from sick beats to sick beats that gon make a hit..........his shits been hittin this year no doubt
yep and..
battlecat - boo yaa tribe
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^^^ Excuse Me Miss, Beautiful, Frontin' were virtually the same beat with a very tiny bit of difference.
I don't think so. They didn't sound exactly alike, to me.
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^^^ Excuse Me Miss, Beautiful, Frontin' were virtually the same beat with a very tiny bit of difference.
I don't think so. They didn't sound exactly alike, to me.
the first time i heard beautiful i thought "wow...thats the same beat as excuse me miss!" (could've been the other way around...dont remember which came out first)...and the first time i heard frontin' i thought "wow...the neptunes are re-using beats"
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I used to like Em's beats until he flipped them over and over again. When I first heard Moment Of Clarity I thought Jay did a freestyle to Nas's The Cross. Exact same beat.
Producer of the year goes to:
Paris - Sonic Jihad was his best produced yet, although all of them have been great.
Dj Premier - 2 Words: The Ownerz.
Kanye West - He's just killing it right now.
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1. KANYE WEST
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lil jon is week as fuck mayne why all yall like his ameture ass production?
producers of the year are fredwreck kon artist and eminem and thas fa sho.
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good listining from all. I would add Jazze Pha for "Choosin" (Too Short) and productions on Outkast, Big Tymers, Bow Wow...(I mean the beats not the lyrics). For me it is R.Kelly for all his Club Bangers, following is Dr.Dre.
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i told ya'll its Kanye West hands down.
and "Get By" and "Encore" are his beats beats this year.
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1) 9th Wonder - Little Brother album, the Nas album remix, all the justice league stuff has all been dope. The Threat beat was probably one of his weakest this year. Gonna get a lot of new fans in 2004, expect him to be one of the most sought after producers.
2) Kanye West - Loads of dope shit this year, from the advance the production on his album is amazing, and all his tracks for other people have been fire.
3) DJ Premier - Not many big name productions this year from Preem, but we got a new Gangstarr album full of dope beats, a few NYGz and various other associations tracks, not to mention dopeness for Big Daddy Kane, Pitch Black and Royce.
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sadly 56 people have replied to this post and only me, waitin for the dj, and c2knuckles have put 9th wonder in our top 3. shit is sad as hell
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sadly 56 people have replied to this post and only me, waitin for the dj, and c2knuckles have put 9th wonder in our top 3. shit is sad as hell
Still, it reflects how big he is in the scene..
The beat he did for Jigga, was good, not fantastic.
He's gonna to frequent more hi-profile rappers albums before you can talk of him as #1 producer of the year, he haven't made the impact that e.g. Kanye West have, yet..
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^^ yeah but to be a top producer you dont necessarily need to make an impact. you just need to make good beats...stoupe didnt make much of an impact either but i would say he's one of the best. little brothers album is amazing. the beats on it are like something from another world. i imagine you havent heard little bro's album or you'd probably be saying different jome...but if you havent heard it you need to. album of the year period.
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^^ yeah but to be a top producer you dont necessarily need to make an impact. you just need to make good beats...stoupe didnt make much of an impact either but i would say he's one of the best. little brothers album is amazing. the beats on it are like something from another world. i imagine you havent heard little bro's album or you'd probably be saying different jome...but if you havent heard it you need to. album of the year period.
Yeah, I've been looking for that album, and it seems near impossible to find, even when it was just released.. availability is another issue here, some people doesn't even know he exists.
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^^ yeah but to be a top producer you dont necessarily need to make an impact. you just need to make good beats...stoupe didnt make much of an impact either but i would say he's one of the best. little brothers album is amazing. the beats on it are like something from another world. i imagine you havent heard little bro's album or you'd probably be saying different jome...but if you havent heard it you need to. album of the year period.
Yeah, I've been looking for that album, and it seems near impossible to find, even when it was just released.. availability is another issue here, some people doesn't even know he exists.
its a pretty tough album to find either way...im still looking for it...but if you want dude ill send you some tracks over aim. i have the album on my computer. i think you'll seriously be impressed.