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Title: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Jome on August 18, 2002, 03:07:37 PM
Killing small kids must be the saddest thing possible.
2 years ago, the same thing happened in Norway.
A 12 year old and a 11 year old was raped and murdered and dumped near a lake.
It's called the "Baneheia-case", some of you might have heard of it.
The murderers was caught, and sentenced to 21(maximum) & 18 years in prison.

May the guilty ones get at least the same in this case.
What's the maximum in U.K. ??

r.i.p Jessica & Holly  :'(
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: FILA::AUS on August 18, 2002, 04:23:36 PM
yeah, that's fucked up, i feel people who kill without a motive should be put down themselves. Fuck putting a person like that into a institution, they will never change. NEVER!

Rest In Peace God Bless you souls.

Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 18, 2002, 04:25:36 PM
It's been like this all summer. Fuckin pigs need to fry in hell for harming children and killing them with no motives. Fuckin lowlifes.

RIP
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Smooth on August 18, 2002, 06:32:36 PM
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It's been like this all summer. Fuckin pigs need to fry in hell for harming children and killing them with no motives. Fuckin lowlifes.

RIP


Word, fuck them lowlifes...

R.I.P
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: ROCCY on August 18, 2002, 07:45:24 PM
RIP !!  :'(
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: closetothalimit on August 18, 2002, 10:57:11 PM
R.I.P.
:'(
Fuck anyone that would harm a child in anyway.
fuck anyone that would commit rape against any human.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Rud on August 18, 2002, 11:37:41 PM
Yea This Is Messed Up :/

The Two That Have Been Arrested For Murder Are The Girls Schools Caretaker And A Supply Teacher. The Sickest Part Is Both Made TV Appeals For Their Return...That Takes A Pretty Sick Mind.

Murder Is A Life Sentence (Classed As 30 Years) In Most Cases - However In This Case I Pray The Judge Recommends Life As Life (As This Has Happened Before) And They Rot In Jail For Life. I Guarentee Tho That The Two If Convicted Will Get The Shit Beaten Outta Them In Prison.


RIP Holly & Jessica  :'(
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 18, 2002, 11:38:26 PM
they havent confirmed the bodies are theirs yet.. but they said theres 2... and are pretty sure.. they even told the families this.

shits sick :'(
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 18, 2002, 11:43:32 PM
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Yea This Is Messed Up :/

The Two That Have Been Arrested For Murder Are The Girls Schools Caretaker And A Supply Teacher. The Sickest Part Is Both Made TV Appeals For Their Return...That Takes A Pretty Sick Mind.


they havent been proved guilty yet. they've been arrested and charged with murder. plus the guy is being charged with abduction.

people are baying for blood... but remember innocent until proven guilty...  ::)

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Murder Is A Life Sentence (Classed As 30 Years) In Most Cases - However In This Case I Pray The Judge Recommends Life As Life (As This Has Happened Before) And They Rot In Jail For Life. I Guarentee Tho That The Two If Convicted Will Get The Shit Beaten Outta Them In Prison.


nawwwww they'll spend their time being looked after by shrinks n shit... trying to work out 'why'.... holed up in a comfy secure facility with all the other sicko's
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Rud on August 18, 2002, 11:57:49 PM
They Actually Been Charged Yet? They Were Arrested I Know, But They Cant Be Charged Till They Have Been Formally I.D'd

And Yea I Know Its Innocent Till Proven Guilty, BUT The Police Must Know Something We Dont To Have Arrested Them And Been Able To Keep Them In Custody Over The Allowable Length.

He'll Do Time For The Abduction Either Way I Would Think (If Their Convicted) - But Yea They'll Be Psycho-Analysed On Tax Payers Money  >:(
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 19, 2002, 12:03:23 AM
i thought they been charged.. but

"Detectives are continuing to question caretaker Ian Huntley, 28, and his girlfriend, Maxine Carr, 25, about the suspected abduction and murder of the girls, after being granted a 36-hour extension by magistrates. "

"The pair were arrested in the early hours of Saturday morning, having spent seven hours speaking to police voluntarily on Friday evening.

Mr Huntley was being held on suspicion of abducting and murdering Holly and Jessica and Ms Carr, a teaching assistant in the girls' class last term, was arrested on suspicion of murdering them. "


"Officers have searched the couple's house, the girls' primary school, St Andrew's and the secondary school Soham Village College, which are all on the same site.

On Sunday afternoon the car wash at Q8 petrol station, south of Soham, was also cordoned off by police.

They found "items of major interest" at the college. The home of Mr Huntley's father Kevin, in Littleport, which is about 10 miles from Soham, is also being searched."

carwash!? damn...... sounds shady


latest news from the beeb
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2202224.stm
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Rud on August 19, 2002, 12:07:59 AM
Yea, Still Being Questioned, Getting That Extension Shows That They Have Stong Grounds For Holding Them.

Wonder What They Found At The College?! :/
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 19, 2002, 12:14:57 AM
todays papers (well i've seen the Daily Star) has lots of stuff about the 'odd couple' as they're calling them. painting him out to be a sicko and her to be his unwilling sidekick. apparently she's tried to kill herself 3 times because of this guy.. and he's lots of history with young girls   >:(
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Rud on August 19, 2002, 12:17:27 AM
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todays papers (well i've seen the Daily Star) has lots of stuff about the 'odd couple' as they're calling them. painting him out to be a sicko and her to be his unwilling sidekick. apparently she's tried to kill herself 3 times because of this guy.. and he's lots of history with young girls   >:(


What The Fuck Are People Like That Doing Working At A Primary SCHOOL!?  >:(
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 19, 2002, 12:22:37 AM
theres no previous criminal history though.

his 'history' is being abusive with previous girlfriends around the age of 16.. they say he's sweet until he's got them hooked on him....  >:(

Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: lbc213 on August 19, 2002, 01:04:50 AM
RIP


The World Stinks
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 19, 2002, 08:59:00 AM
latest news...


1) post mortem of the bodies has not proved the cause of death. further tests will now be done.
they are also saying the bodies are definitley of the girls.

2) the 2 detained people have until the early hours of wednesday morning to be charged or released.

(now my wild thoughts)

i'm coming more inline with the theory that these things keep happening because there is no fear. i think that once proven guilty a co-ordinated kidnapping (not lynching) these 2 - who would be returned after the period of time it took to uncover the real truth with no harm done . then they would be returned back to the justice system.

i'm not sure if people outside the UK are aware (maybe some here arent either) but in some areas (plymouth being one i believe) local residents will not allow convicted pedophiles to live in their area. they are consistently harrrassed by people in the local area until they are forced to move elsewhere.

by law convicted pedophiles have to register with the local authority.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 19, 2002, 09:39:15 AM
pedophiles should get their nuts chopped off and then thrown in the hole on the first offence, same with rapists, child abusers/molesters, wife beaters, and Nelly.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Doggystylin on August 19, 2002, 09:43:50 AM
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pedophiles should get their nuts chopped off and then thrown in the hole on the first offence, same with rapists, child abusers/molesters, wife beaters, and Nelly.


lmao
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Trauma-san on August 19, 2002, 06:59:21 PM
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Yea This Is Messed Up :/

. The Sickest Part Is Both Made TV Appeals For Their Return...That Takes A Pretty Sick Mind.

(


Yeah, I agree.  That always just disgusts me, that they'd lie and fake it like that.  
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: HBKid_Jr on August 19, 2002, 09:22:11 PM
rip,  thats some fucked up shit,  what pocesses a person 2 do that shit
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Hatesrats™ on August 19, 2002, 09:27:17 PM

R.I.P.

Heaven must have needed some new Angel's....
to watch over us.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 07:28:14 AM
they just announced on the news
that guys been charged with 2 counts of murder
and sectioned under the mental health act
his g/f aint been charged - yet

news on her within next few hours
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 20, 2002, 07:44:26 AM
sectioned under the mental health act?  Fuck that.  They need to be sectioned under the smith and wessun act.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 08:03:26 AM
death isnt punishment.

there is no death penalty here.

p.s. america is one of only a few barbaric countries that still have the death penalty... we've been through this debate before
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 20, 2002, 08:12:54 AM
why do you think that they should not be killed?  Would you think differently if one of the girls was your daughter?
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 08:41:26 AM
killing is the easy, barbaric way out.

if it were my daughter i'd like to keep them in a cage and electocute, starve, beat and fuck with them however i want.

death is too good for them!
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 20, 2002, 08:55:03 AM
I agree I would rather torture them but that is illegal here in america
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Rud on August 20, 2002, 08:57:15 AM
Tell Ya What Id Do Is This (What I Said Should Happen If We Capture Bin Laden) :

Imagine Being Stuck In A Big Cage FOREVER And All Day, Everyday People Were Allowed To Look In And Poke You With A Stick....Imagine How Bad Thatd Be, Itd Drive You Insane...Thats A Suitable Punishment As It Doesnt Involve The Easy Way Out Or A Huge Chunk Out Of Ordinary Peoples Taxes On Mental Health Bills.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 08:58:57 AM
^-- i 've thought of that too.

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I agree I would rather torture them but that is illegal here in america


is here too.

the victims parents have to suffer for the rest of their lives.... so the murderer/s should too!


Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 20, 2002, 10:09:55 AM
that would be a good one Rud.  I would add to it by having paintball guns around the cage so anyone who wanted could shoot the sick bastards.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: bLaDe on August 20, 2002, 10:54:53 AM
Damn thats sad, May they rest in peace....The offenders should be tortured like ya'll said or sumtin..

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 11:17:04 AM
the woman has now only been charged with 'perverting the course of justice'. she hasnt been released, so she could be charged with more before the deadline of 6am.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 11:32:58 AM
new news coming in 10 mins.... will keep ya'll posted.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 11:41:25 AM
the news guy looks freaked now... they aint said more yet...

ok now... just that the shrinks say he's not well enough to appear in court tommorow. (for something... ?)


by 6am we'll know whuts up with his g/f.

Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Trauma-san on August 20, 2002, 06:55:06 PM
I strongly believe, that really sick, sick crimes like this are just that, Sick.  Since they're out of their mind, the insanity plea holds up, in my mind.

Nobody could kill a child that hadn't harmed them in any way without being sick themselves.  I know it sounds like a copout, but in this case, it's the truth.  These people must be insane.  
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2002, 08:59:23 PM
she hasnt been charged with anything else.

she appears in magistrates court this morning.


"Security has been stepped up around the courtroom ahead of Ms Carr's appearance in case of any actions by vigilantes, according to press reports. "
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Reef on August 21, 2002, 11:10:03 AM
The problem now is that 'Ian Huntly' has been sectioned under the Section 2 of the Mental Health Act. (Which means hes a danger to himself or other people. Duh.. murderers are a danger to other people anyways) When his proper trial begins (or if it ever begins) he can just claim diminished responsability as we has mentally unstable. I can see that happening. If that doesnt there another four possibilitys.  

1. He gets charged with murder, but is still mentally unstable. He'll serve his scentence in a confortable institute.

2. He'll be proved as mentally fit. Get a life secentence and serve 10 years of it and get let out for 'good behaviour'

3. He'll get locked up for life (and i mean till he dies) and the streets will be rid of another sick fuck.

4. He'll get life, get his ass beaten to death in prision, or commit suicide.

Personally i'd prefer option three. The problem with the British legal system is that the second choice sometimes happens.

Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Rud on August 21, 2002, 11:25:54 AM
Yea, Hes Being Observed To See If He's Fit To Stand Trial. If He Does Stand Trial And The Evidence Is Substantial He'll Go Down For Life, And I Would Imagine The Judge Will Recommend Life Is Life...

Thing Is Under The 1983 Mental Health Act IF He Is Proved Unfit To Stand Trial He Has The Right To Apply For Release After A Period Of Time... :-/

Anyway, We'll See Soon....
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jessica & Holly
Post by: Reef on August 21, 2002, 11:54:12 AM
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Thing Is Under The 1983 Mental Health Act IF He Is Proved Unfit To Stand Trial He Has The Right To Apply For Release After A Period Of Time... :-/


Yeah, but if the evidence is substantial its believe its possible to put him on trial without his presence is'nt it?