West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Woodrow on July 22, 2002, 11:59:05 AM
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Not trying to cause beef, or put down anybody's religon, just would like to know your thoughts.
Tony Blair said that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Yet at the same time, the vast majoirty to Terrorists are musilm.
Christians have their wacko's as well, (KKK) but they dont have the same support around the world as musilims do. After the 9/11 attacks, UBL became a folk hero around the Islamic world. His groups actions were aplauded around in Iraq, Lybia, Iran as well as in occupied palestine.
I saw a poll that said 78% ot palastinians supported the attacks.
When the KKK burns down a church, you dont see 78% of christians suppoting the acts of violence.
NOTE: Some of the questions were brought up in
Dinesh D'souza's new book: What's so Great about America.
Check it out. D'souza brings up some intresting points.
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Christians have their wacko's as well, (KKK) but they dont have the same support around the world as musilims do. After the 9/11 attacks, UBL became a folk hero around the Islamic world. His groups actions were aplauded around in Iraq, Lybia, Iran as well as in occupied palestine.
I saw a poll that said 78% ot palastinians supported the attacks.
When the KKK burns down a church, you dont see 78% of christians suppoting the acts of violence.
NOTE: Some of the questions were brought up in
Dinesh D'souza's new book: What's so Great about America.
Check it out. D'souza brings up some intresting points.
KKK is diffrent. Palastine is being opressed by USA, so thats why a lot of them support OBL and his actions AGAINST the US. Its not like OBL burned down a Mosque, if he did, I doubt Muslims would support him. So theres quite a diffrence between the KKK and Osama....
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KKK is diffrent. Palastine is being opressed by USA, so thats why a lot of them support OBL and his actions AGAINST the US. Its not like OBL burned down a Mosque, if he did, I doubt Muslims would support him. So theres quite a diffrence between the KKK and Osama....
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The Klan and Osamam are quite alike to me. They both mislead people and cause trouble for the world.
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:. link=board=thehall;num=1027375145;start=0#1 date=07/22/02 at 17:13:41]KKK is diffrent. Palastine is being opressed by USA, so thats why a lot of them support OBL and his actions AGAINST the US. Its not like OBL burned down a Mosque, if he did, I doubt Muslims would support him. So theres quite a diffrence between the KKK and Osama....
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ok so just twist what englewood sed a little bit...
osama made attacks on a country which i wud call christian...and all dem muslims sed they agreed that the attacks were necessary
so...if sum christian kkk membaz went and terrorized muslim countries...just like they used to terrorise blacks...see if 78% of christians agree to that...
so there really aint no difference, therefore i reckon that them ppl in alll them cuntriz are fucked up, and i can safely fuckin say so.
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plain and simple....fuck osama and tha KKK >:(
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u must not forget that the muslims in the middle eastern have been attacked by USA for over 50 years... they've seen their fathers and sisters been killed by USA bombs... theyve been afraid each time they went to sleep, not knowing if they will wake up the day after or not...
if usa had been attacked by iraq and other islamic countries for 50 years, im pretty sure people would support KKK if they crached an airplaine over there.... im not supporting the talibans, im just telling the truth... i know that if i lived in iraq and saw american airplanes kill my family, my brainwould be damaged and i would wish that the whole usa were destroyed...
like i said... im not supporting the talibans, but im just telling yall about how the human min works
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Yep...
You know it's a crying shame how America just bombed The Saudi's over and over again...
I guess thats why people try and justify the actions of the 18 Saudi terrorists...
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Word to what Blade and I-Bo said!!! Dope shit.
And Englewood, I've been reading that book, I'll get at you when I'm finished.
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Not trying to cause beef, or put down anybody's religon, just would like to know your thoughts.
Tony Blair said that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Yet at the same time, the vast majoirty to Terrorists are musilm.
Christians have their wacko's as well, (KKK) but they dont have the same support around the world as musilims do. After the 9/11 attacks, UBL became a folk hero around the Islamic world. His groups actions were aplauded around in Iraq, Lybia, Iran as well as in occupied palestine.
I saw a poll that said 78% ot palastinians supported the attacks.
When the KKK burns down a church, you dont see 78% of christians suppoting the acts of violence.
NOTE: Some of the questions were brought up in
Dinesh D'souza's new book: What's so Great about America.
Check it out. D'souza brings up some intresting points.
you couldnt be more wrong, ill school you in every angle, dont get offended, its all cool
back when the KKK was attackin, why did they attack? jus cause they didnt like blacks, and yes many whites supported the KKK, they just dont admit it now. the terrorists that attack are attacking because their people are being opressed, if they were living right then why would they attack? they could give a fuck.
those polls are made by the media which is run by jews so they can get the worlds support
oh yeah and Iran did not support those attacks, once again its the media tryin to make them look bad because of back when US hostages were taken and also because Iran is one of the countries that isnt suckin the US's dick.
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you couldnt be more wrong, ill school you in every angle, dont get offended, its all cool
back when the KKK was attackin, why did they attack? jus cause they didnt like blacks, and yes many whites supported the KKK, they just dont admit it now. the terrorists that attack are attacking because their people are being opressed, if they were living right then why would they attack? they could give a fuck.
those polls are made by the media which is run by jews so they can get the worlds support
oh yeah and Iran did not support those attacks, once again its the media tryin to make them look bad because of back when US hostages were taken and also because Iran is one of the countries that isnt suckin the US's dick.
That's My Muthafuckin Word, so you better not be so quick to test us..........
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you couldnt be more wrong, ill school you in every angle, dont get offended, its all cool
back when the KKK was attackin, why did they attack? jus cause they didnt like blacks, and yes many whites supported the KKK, they just dont admit it now. the terrorists that attack are attacking because their people are being opressed, if they were living right then why would they attack? they could give a fuck.
those polls are made by the media which is run by jews so they can get the worlds support
oh yeah and Iran did not support those attacks, once again its the media tryin to make them look bad because of back when US hostages were taken and also because Iran is one of the countries that isnt suckin the US's dick.
Run by the Jews?? Oh my oh my....
First and foremost, how do you know that "many whites" supported the KKK. Were you alive durring the period? Do you know this for a fact? Can you prove that most whites supported the KKK? Can you show me a statistic that most whites supported the KKK?
How does the United states oppress The Saudi's? You realize thats where 18 of the hijackers were from....
Just to let you know, that this poll was not run by "The Jews", but by the palestinian media...
So you are telling me that the video that I saw of people in Iran marching in celebration days after the attacks was false?
Another thing, if you want to argue with me, prove me wrong with facts.
I was actualling listening to your "Argument" before you brought up the Jewish conspirciary...
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Run by the Jews?? Oh my oh my....
First and foremost, how do you know that "many whites" supported the KKK. Were you alive durring the period? Do you know this for a fact? Can you prove that most whites supported the KKK? Can you show me a statistic that most whites supported the KKK?
How does the United states oppress The Saudi's? You realize thats where 18 of the hijackers were from....
Just to let you know, that this poll was not run by "The Jews", but by the palestinian media...
So you are telling me that the video that I saw of people in Iran marching in celebration days after the attacks was false?
Another thing, if you want to argue with me, prove me wrong with facts.
I was actualling listening to your "Argument" before you brought up the Jewish conspirciary...
ive done my research, if you wanna belive me ok, if you dont, then dont
yes the footage was false, it was from a iranian celebration earlier that year and they said it was iran celebrating cuz of the attacks. and the one that they showed the most was the palestinian footage, so i think your talkin about that one, and if i was them i would be happy too, and saudis attacked cuz palestinians are their people, and cuz of the american bases in saudi arabia
and sorry to tell you this but yes all that shit is run by zionists.
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ive done my research, if you wanna belive me ok, if you dont, then dont
yes the footage was false, it was from a iranian celebration earlier that year and they said it was iran celebrating cuz of the attacks. and the one that they showed the most was the palestinian footage, so i think your talkin about that one, and if i was them i would be happy too, and saudis attacked cuz palestinians are their people, and cuz of the american bases in saudi arabia
and sorry to tell you this but yes all that shit is run by zionists.
You haven't schooled my by any means, All you've shown me is hearsay and conspiracy theories.
If you've done your research, then put it up, Like I said before, prove me wrong with FACTS.
How is the Palestenian media run by "Zionists"??
If "saudis attacked cuz palestinians are their people" Wouldn't that also give America the right to attack others who are hurting our people i.e. freedom loving people across the globe?
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Everybody I know, would never support the U.S. attacking the civilians of Iraq, and we hate Saadam Hussein. Bin Ladin attacked the civilians of the U.S., specifically civilians. What a prick. And everybody that supports him is a prick too, including you idiots on this board who excuse his actions.
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Everybody I know, would never support the U.S. attacking the civilians of Iraq, and we hate Saadam Hussein. Bin Ladin attacked the civilians of the U.S., specifically civilians. What a prick. And everybody that supports him is a prick too, including you idiots on this board who excuse his actions.
i dont think that people here look at bin laden as a hero.. but trauma, im pretty sure that you would support bin ladens attaacks if you lived in iraq and lost your parent because of american planes.... else you would probably be a saint or similar
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i dont think that people here look at bin laden as a hero.. but trauma, im pretty sure that you would support bin ladens attaacks if you lived in iraq and lost your parent because of american planes.... else you would probably be a saint or similar
I'd be pissed at my leader for his quench for weapons of mass destruction that brought on the bombing...
And his imperialistic intentions...
And the poisioning his own people...
And living in luxury while the vast majority of his nation lives in poverty.
Not to mention I'd be pissed at my leader for keeping food and medical donations from the world communtiy from his people.
But hey,
Whatever floats your boat.
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fuck saddem fuck osama and fuck all you that support them evil bastareds..
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ive done my research, if you wanna belive me ok, if you dont, then dont
yes the footage was false, it was from a iranian celebration earlier that year and they said it was iran celebrating cuz of the attacks. and the one that they showed the most was the palestinian footage, so i think your talkin about that one, and if i was them i would be happy too, and saudis attacked cuz palestinians are their people, and cuz of the american bases in saudi arabia
and sorry to tell you this but yes all that shit is run by zionists.
Im still waiting for my "schooling"
I hope you realize that first you said the media was run by jews, then you said that it run by zionists...
Which is it?
They are 2 different things you know.
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Flip dogg....
Flip dogg...
Wont you come out and play Flip dogg??!!
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Mr. Englewood
The Muslim world has been persecuted since the end of the WW2. By persecuted i mean killed, rapped, having their govt toppled, their leaders assasinated, their land carved up and given away.
Generations of Muslims have witnessed the Christain West support the systematic desruction of the Islamic community. This has caused anger in the Muslim world for the United States. Some people are so sickened by America's obvious disregard for our way of life, that they seek the death of Americans, as Americans have seeked the death of Muslims.
Is this reciprocal way of thinking correct? I dont know, but how angry were u at Osama on Sept 11? Lol, u deny Muslims the same human feelings you personally experience.
Now you have your extremists who want America destroyed because they see America- rightfully- as an enemy that they can never negotiate wit or live in peace with.
Then you have the majority of Muslims who hate the States.
The Extremists celebrated 9/11, and slowly many Muslims rallied around Osama Bin Laden, he was the muthafucka that kicked America in the balls when all our puppet govts didnt have the balls to do. So the Muslims that cheered 9/11 or sympathized with Osama Bin Laden they are not specifically cheering the death of 2800 civilians, but the attack on America.
Death in the Muslim world has made us Muslims desensitive to "civilian" deaths seeing as that so many of us civilians were killed. So why should we make a distinction between yall civilians.
Thats the mindset right there. Now please do your self a favour and dont make baseless comparisons between Osama and KKK. Dont try to potray Osama in an american example so that u can understand it better. Because you Americans cant possibly fathom the mind of a Palestinian or the Mind of an Iraqi, or the mind of an Afghan. You havent been persecuted, your idea of pain is paying yall fuckin bills,
get ya mind right
PEACE
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Mr. Englewood
The Muslim world has been persecuted since the end of the WW2. By persecuted i mean killed, rapped, having their govt toppled, their leaders assasinated, their land carved up and given away.
Generations of Muslims have witnessed the Christain West support the systematic desruction of the Islamic community. This has caused anger in the Muslim world for the United States. Some people are so sickened by America's obvious disregard for our way of life, that they seek the death of Americans, as Americans have seeked the death of Muslims.
Is this reciprocal way of thinking correct? I dont know, but how angry were u at Osama on Sept 11? Lol, u deny Muslims the same human feelings you personally experience.
Now you have your extremists who want America destroyed because they see America- rightfully- as an enemy that they can never negotiate wit or live in peace with.
Then you have the majority of Muslims who hate the States.
The Extremists celebrated 9/11, and slowly many Muslims rallied around Osama Bin Laden, he was the muthafucka that kicked America in the balls when all our puppet govts didnt have the balls to do. So the Muslims that cheered 9/11 or sympathized with Osama Bin Laden they are not specifically cheering the death of 2800 civilians, but the attack on America.
Death in the Muslim world has made us Muslims desensitive to "civilian" deaths seeing as that so many of us civilians were killed. So why should we make a distinction between yall civilians.
Thats the mindset right there. Now please do your self a favour and dont make baseless comparisons between Osama and KKK. Dont try to potray Osama in an american example so that u can understand it better. Because you Americans cant possibly fathom the mind of a Palestinian or the Mind of an Iraqi, or the mind of an Afghan. You havent been persecuted, your idea of pain is paying yall fuckin bills,
get ya mind right
PEACE
Word the fuck up.......Tech is more cultured then all of us, me included, he's seen both sides, so ya'll better respect that.
I can sit back having lived in the midwest of America my whole life and say, "Ohhh My God, I can't believe those Muslims did this".... Completely disregarding America's support of governments that kill Muslims everyday oversee's.
American's eyes are only open to pain and suffering if it's in their own living room.
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In addition.... there was a guy in one of my college classes that said infront of the whole class, "If I had been president, after Sept. 11th, Afganistan would of been nothing but a lake, nothing but rubble, completely wiped out."
And politician John McCain was saying that if he were Afganistan would of been nothing after he was threw.
^^^^What makes these people better then Bin Laden?
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Mr. Englewood
The Muslim world has been persecuted since the end of the WW2. By persecuted i mean killed, rapped, having their govt toppled, their leaders assasinated, their land carved up and given away.
Generations of Muslims have witnessed the Christain West support the systematic desruction of the Islamic community. This has caused anger in the Muslim world for the United States. Some people are so sickened by America's obvious disregard for our way of life, that they seek the death of Americans, as Americans have seeked the death of Muslims.
Is this reciprocal way of thinking correct? I dont know, but how angry were u at Osama on Sept 11? Lol, u deny Muslims the same human feelings you personally experience.
Now you have your extremists who want America destroyed because they see America- rightfully- as an enemy that they can never negotiate wit or live in peace with.
Then you have the majority of Muslims who hate the States.
The Extremists celebrated 9/11, and slowly many Muslims rallied around Osama Bin Laden, he was the muthafucka that kicked America in the balls when all our puppet govts didnt have the balls to do. So the Muslims that cheered 9/11 or sympathized with Osama Bin Laden they are not specifically cheering the death of 2800 civilians, but the attack on America.
Death in the Muslim world has made us Muslims desensitive to "civilian" deaths seeing as that so many of us civilians were killed. So why should we make a distinction between yall civilians.
Thats the mindset right there. Now please do your self a favour and dont make baseless comparisons between Osama and KKK. Dont try to potray Osama in an american example so that u can understand it better. Because you Americans cant possibly fathom the mind of a Palestinian or the Mind of an Iraqi, or the mind of an Afghan. You havent been persecuted, your idea of pain is paying yall fuckin bills,
get ya mind right
PEACE
First off, My mind is "Right" no need to insult me to make your argument look stronger.
This is the thing I don't understand:
You claim that Muslims are opressed. Sure thing they arent the only peoples across the world that are opressed, but ok. I don't agrue with you on that one.
How has Osama bin laden been opressed? He grew up in a very rich family and had all the luxeries of the western world he now hates so much. The 17 or 18 Hijackers from Saudi Arabia were also from families that were very well off. They were not "Opressed" like you claim. The problem here is not the Opression, It's hate for a group of people. Please dont bring religion into this either, because it's not a religious issue, It's a hate issue. Bin Laden trys to mask it as a religious issue. It's not.
I hate to break it to you, but the KKK is a hate group. Al Qaeda is a hate group. They both pratice hate. This is not a baseless comparrison. It's the truth.
How am I denying "Muslims the same human feelings you personally experience"
When you group Osama Bin Laden with Muslims everywhere telling me it's not a hate group, It's a disservice to Muslims everywhere.
Finaly, please don't make broad generalizations about Americans. You never hear me talking about people from afghanistan eating sticks and stones do you?
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In addition.... there was a guy in one of my college classes that said infront of the whole class, "If I had been president, after Sept. 11th, Afganistan would of been nothing but a lake, nothing but rubble, completely wiped out."
And politician John McCain was saying that if he were Afganistan would of been nothing after he was threw.
^^^^What makes these people better then Bin Laden?
Did this person in class actually wipe out Afghanistan? Does he stand a chance of ever becoming president? Not with that kind of hate he dosent.
Could you show me the direct quote John McCain used? If indeed he actually said this, so what. People say a lot of things. Did he go throught with his actions? No.
Thats the difference between these people and UBL.
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Did Mcain really say this?
I actually like that guy, but if he said this (which I doubt) I don't like him anymore
I wanna see the direct quote.
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First off, My mind is "Right" no need to insult me to make your argument look stronger.
This is the thing I don't understand:
You claim that Muslims are opressed. Sure thing they arent the only peoples across the world that are opressed, but ok. I don't agrue with you on that one.
How has Osama bin laden been opressed? He grew up in a very rich family and had all the luxeries of the western world he now hates so much. The 17 or 18 Hijackers from Saudi Arabia were also from families that were very well off. They were not "Opressed" like you claim. The problem here is not the Opression, It's hate for a group of people. Please dont bring religion into this either, because it's not a religious issue, It's a hate issue. Bin Laden trys to mask it as a religious issue. It's not.
I hate to break it to you, but the KKK is a hate group. Al Qaeda is a hate group. They both pratice hate. This is not a baseless comparrison. It's the truth.
How am I denying "Muslims the same human feelings you personally experience"
When you group Osama Bin Laden with Muslims everywhere telling me it's not a hate group, It's a disservice to Muslims everywhere.
Finaly, please don't make broad generalizations about Americans. You never hear me talking about people from afghanistan eating sticks and stones do you?
Broad generilizations about Americans?
I been to the fuckin States, I know Americans , I was there for a couple of months with my cuzins. I know Americans
You been to Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? Kuwait?
And u talkin about Osama and the Saudi Hijackers.....
U makin individual distinctions, which aint right man.
U sayin Osama is rich how is he oppressed? u cant makle individual distinctions,
example, i am not oppressed , but every time i see the news and watch a Palestinian get killed, i feel like grabbing an AK and going down there. The Muslim world is a community, we are a brotherhood, A rich Pakistani, a middle class Indonesian, and a white Muslim american convert. They all feel the same pain witnessing horrors being committed against the Muslims.
Did every body in the US army that invaded Afghanistan lose someone on Sept 11.?
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^^^ You're trying to act like the civilians lost in this, in 1 HOUR, are nothing since palestinians die every day. Lets just tell it like it is. The number of palestinians killed roughly equals the number killed in Isreal recently, and then throw on top of it all the people Bin Ladin killed, and we're killin each other needlessly. I had friends in New York at the time this went down, thankfully nobody was hurt. But 3000 different families lost dads, moms, kids, etc. In 1 hour. We have the right to be just a 'LITTLE' bit mad.
You make individual distinctions too! You go after George Bush, and blame it all on him, but we can't blame it all on Bin Ladin? No Sane minded american (Read, Me) wants to kill Afgani's! We want to get revenge on Al Queada. If you support them at all, your mind is tripped up. They're a hate group, EXACTLY like the KKK. The KKK killed in the name of god. Al Queada kills in the name of God. Same thing. True christians don't consider KKK members christians, but yet Muslims all over the place are embracing the Al Queada as their 'brothers' that's just messed up. 2 wrongs don't make a right, never have, never will. Turn the other cheek.
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u dont seem to understand teh distinctions Englewood is making
he's sayin Osama was rich so how is he oppressed
George Bush didnt lose anybody in 9/11 so why is he going after Taliban
Is Osama supported by the Majority of Muslims? no!
but the disenfranchised people who are sick of being pushed around are rallying around him.
listen
Iraq
Chechnya
Palestine
Kashmir
every where around the world Muslims are being attacked.
You cant understand that feelin of uselessnesss, that we cant do nothing as a people, so Bin Laden steps up and kills Americans, that brings something out of the people, na mean?
anyways forget it, these arguments will go one forever, cuz we from different places wit different beliefs.
peace
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^^^ You're trying to act like the civilians lost in this, in 1 HOUR, are nothing since palestinians die every day. Lets just tell it like it is. The number of palestinians killed roughly equals the number killed in Isreal recently, and then throw on top of it all the people Bin Ladin killed, and we're killin each other needlessly. I had friends in New York at the time this went down, thankfully nobody was hurt. But 3000 different families lost dads, moms, kids, etc. In 1 hour. We have the right to be just a 'LITTLE' bit mad.
You make individual distinctions too! You go after George Bush, and blame it all on him, but we can't blame it all on Bin Ladin? No Sane minded american (Read, Me) wants to kill Afgani's! We want to get revenge on Al Queada. If you support them at all, your mind is tripped up. They're a hate group, EXACTLY like the KKK. The KKK killed in the name of god. Al Queada kills in the name of God. Same thing. True christians don't consider KKK members christians, but yet Muslims all over the place are embracing the Al Queada as their 'brothers' that's just messed up. 2 wrongs don't make a right, never have, never will. Turn the other cheek.
The KKK was hating because of race. The Taliban was hating because of injustices done to there people. Two totally different situations.
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Broad generilizations about Americans?
I been to the fuckin States, I know Americans , I was there for a couple of months with my cuzins. I know Americans
You been to Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? Kuwait?
And u talkin about Osama and the Saudi Hijackers.....
U makin individual distinctions, which aint right man.
U sayin Osama is rich how is he oppressed? u cant makle individual distinctions,
example, i am not oppressed , but every time i see the news and watch a Palestinian get killed, i feel like grabbing an AK and going down there. The Muslim world is a community, we are a brotherhood, A rich Pakistani, a middle class Indonesian, and a white Muslim american convert. They all feel the same pain witnessing horrors being committed against the Muslims.
Did every body in the US army that invaded Afghanistan lose someone on Sept 11.?
So You've been to America for a couple of months, and you feel you know us well enough to pass judgment...
Perhpas you should "get ya mind right" because a couple of months is not long enough to know a persons culture.
How is it not right to make individual distinctions about Osama and the HiJackers? They don't represent Islam. They never will. They represent HATE. That's the distinction I make.
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u dont seem to understand teh distinctions Englewood is making
he's sayin Osama was rich so how is he oppressed
George Bush didnt lose anybody in 9/11 so why is he going after Taliban
Is Osama supported by the Majority of Muslims? no!
but the disenfranchised people who are sick of being pushed around are rallying around him.
listen
Iraq
Chechnya
Palestine
Kashmir
every where around the world Muslims are being attacked.
You cant understand that feelin of uselessnesss, that we cant do nothing as a people, so Bin Laden steps up and kills Americans, that brings something out of the people, na mean?
anyways forget it, these arguments will go one forever, cuz we from different places wit different beliefs.
peace
George Bush did loose someobdy in the World Trade Center. He lost American citizen's lives. Being part of the leadership of America, He needed to respond to the attacks.
The Taliban provided hospitality and comfort to Osama Bin Laden and were on his payroll. Therefore, The Taliban was also the enemy.
Is Osama the leader of the Muslims of the world? I sure hope not.
Not having discussions about this won't make it go away. Just beacuse we are from different places and come from different backgrounds dosen't mean we can't talk about the issues at hand.
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The KKK was hating because of race. The Taliban was hating because of injustices done to there people. Two totally different situations.
Wrong.
First we are talking about Al Qaeda.
Second, how many Jewish KKK members do you see?
The KKK is based on hating anybody not like themselves.
Al Qaeda is based on hating anybody not like themselves (muslims)
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Al Qaeda is based on hating anybody not like themselves (muslims)
wrong again, lol
cnn got to u too eh?
Al Qaeda hates America for its govts persecution of Muslims
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wrong again, lol
cnn got to u too eh?
Al Qaeda hates America for its govts persecution of Muslims
How many Christian Al Qaeda members do you see??
Jewish AL Qaeda Members do you see??
If Al Qaeda hates America for it's governments persectution of muslims, How come they killed 3,000 civilians?
I guess osama got u too eh?
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for the 1000 time, they make no distinction between civilians and soldiers,
fuckin idiot, i look like they spokesman to u?
if AL QAEDA hates all non muslim,
why aint they bombing China? Switzerland?
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for the 1000 time, they make no distinction between civilians and soldiers,
fuckin idiot, i look like they spokesman to u?
if AL QAEDA hates all non muslim,
why aint they bombing China? Switzerland?
Hmmmm
Please refrain from personal attacks. It just makes you look uneducated.
No you don't look like one of their spokespersons, but one of their followers...
Perhapas if you could answer my questions on why Al Qaeda won't allow non-muslims into their group then I can answer your questions. As it stands, You've resorted to personal attacks on me, and have dodged the question at hand by claiming "opression"
Instead of having a lively discussion about the topics at hand, all you've done is bring petty personal attacks. Please stick to the topic at hand.
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Why justify the taliban, OR the Al Queada? I hate, in no particular order, KKK, Taliban, Al Queada, Hitler, etc. etc. they're all hate. Yall trying to see rhyme and reason in a crazy man's plot to destroy America.
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NO IM not
im just clearing the smoke, making sure the facts right
and englewood
AL qAEDA is a group that seeks to defend the Muslims from the States
thats why the group is Muslim and their target the States
very fuckin simple man!
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i have a question tech, if al queada an tha taliban tryin to protect muslims from tha states why than did they treat there own people so badly. Now i know at first they brought stability to afganastan after there raw wit tha former soviet union. But after a while why did they start treating there people so badly especially woman if they goal is to protect muslims. also u went to tha states for a couple of months so that gives a good judgement on how all americans are. well i went to canada an most canadians look like there lost on 1989. is it fair to say all canadians look like there 12 years behind based on one week.
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They're only behind what you consider to be forward
And apart from that attack on Canada very good question I want to hear Tech answer that one not the point about Canada.
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NO IM not
im just clearing the smoke, making sure the facts right
and englewood
AL qAEDA is a group that seeks to defend the Muslims from the States
thats why the group is Muslim and their target the States
very fuckin simple man!
Wow... Al Qaeda the humanitarin group! That was probably the most Idiotic statement I've ever heard from you, and trust me, You've said some WAY out shit.
Tell me, how is killing 3,000 defensless people "Defending Muslims"
If they wanted to "Defend Muslims", why did they attack the
USA knowing damn well that the USA would bring down full power on whatever country was holding them and in turn harm Muslims? How come they hid behind Muslim families when the british and US special forces came in?
"AL qAEDA" is a hate group, It's clear to me you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
You give a bad name to peace loving Muslims across the world with statements like the one above.
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i have a question tech, if al queada an tha taliban tryin to protect muslims from tha states why than did they treat there own people so badly. Now i know at first they brought stability to afganastan after there raw wit tha former soviet union. But after a while why did they start treating there people so badly especially woman if they goal is to protect muslims. also u went to tha states for a couple of months so that gives a good judgement on how all americans are. well i went to canada an most canadians look like there lost on 1989. is it fair to say all canadians look like there 12 years behind based on one week.
first of all, i went from explaining what Al Qaeda is to being their spokesperson expected to justify what they have done
Now yuou askin why are they treating their people bad. Well, to you it may seem bad, to me it seems bad, but they dont see them selves as treating thei rpeople bad, they believe imposing Islam on you is a good thing.
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Wow... Al Qaeda the humanitarin group! That was probably the most Idiotic statement I've ever heard from you, and trust me, You've said some WAY out shit.
Tell me, how is killing 3,000 defensless people "Defending Muslims"
If they wanted to "Defend Muslims", why did they attack the
USA knowing damn well that the USA would bring down full power on whatever country was holding them and in turn harm Muslims? How come they hid behind Muslim families when the british and US special forces came in?
"AL qAEDA" is a hate group, It's clear to me you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
You give a bad name to peace loving Muslims across the world with statements like the one above.
Englewood, u have managed to singlehandedly switch subjects every thread. This entire thread ive been tryin to answer any questions u have. But u keep askin different questions till the point where now u are confused.
When did i call AL QAEDA a humanitarian group?
Ive just been tryin to explain AL QAEDA better to yall, not to justify what they do!! I dont like AL QAEDA, i dont agree with what they say, so why the fuck, after i explained to u what their goal is, are u gonna turn around and flip that on me? lol
you got no other way to come at me except this, lol
"Tell me how is killing 3000 innocent people defending Muslims"
Ask them, when did i agree with their goals, or strive to be like them. i just explained to yall what THEIR MENTALITY was.
I am not making any attempt to justify it.
tryin to lure me into a trap its all gravy tho.
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*NOTE* I deleted the word "idiot" from Tech's post above. I'm getting rid of all the personal invective at this board, to pave the way for well-mannered, respectful, impersonal, discussions. Argue about the views, don't attack personally and no-namecalling.
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I appreciate that Infinite
Im sorry, Englewood, i should know that Hall of Mirrors discussions shouldnt lead to personal beef
cuz if that was the case, then i would have beef with half of WCC
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Englewood, u have managed to singlehandedly switch subjects every thread. This entire thread ive been tryin to answer any questions u have. But u keep askin different questions till the point where now u are confused.
When did i call AL QAEDA a humanitarian group?
Ive just been tryin to explain AL QAEDA better to yall, not to justify what they do!! I dont like AL QAEDA, i dont agree with what they say, so why the fuck, after i explained to u what their goal is, are u gonna turn around and flip that on me? lol
you got no other way to come at me except this, lol
"Tell me how is killing 3000 innocent people defending Muslims"
Ask them, when did i agree with their goals, or strive to be like them. i just explained to yall what THEIR MENTALITY was.
I am not making any attempt to justify it.
tryin to lure me into a trap its all gravy tho.
I just wonder how you know "THEIR MENTALITY" so well...
The only thing Im doing is responding to your comments trying to better understand the points you are trying to get across...
So far what I've gathered you belive in:
1.) Muslims have been persecuted, so therefore, the 9/11 attacks on the USA were justified
2.) Muslim Civilians have been killed so it's ok that al qaeda killed US Civilians.
3.) Al qaeda is'nt a hate/terrorist group, but rather wants to "help" the opresses muslims of the world.
4.) You've visited America for a couple of months and you feel like that's a long enough time to judge a culture. You've also been to Afghanistan for 2 months, but you took on that culture and call it your own...
5.) You use personal attacks when you can't answer a question, and then ask another question trying to defect the OG question.
"its all gravy tho"
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I just wonder how you know "THEIR MENTALITY" so well...
The only thing Im doing is responding to your comments trying to better understand the points you are trying to get across...
So far what I've gathered you belive in:
1.) Muslims have been persecuted, so therefore, the 9/11 attacks on the USA were justified
2.) Muslim Civilians have been killed so it's ok that al qaeda killed US Civilians.
3.) Al qaeda is'nt a hate/terrorist group, but rather wants to "help" the opresses muslims of the world.
4.) You've visited America for a couple of months and you feel like that's a long enough time to judge a culture. You've also been to Afghanistan for 2 months, but you took on that culture and call it your own...
5.) You use personal attacks when you can't answer a question, and then ask another question trying to defect the OG question.
"its all gravy tho"
"How to School a Youth" Part 3
1) never justified it, u wrong!
2) thats what Al Qaeda believes, not me, u wrong again!
3) Al Qaeda sees its actions as helping the Muslim world,
I dont. U wrong again!!!
4) Parents Afghan. Family Afghan. Speak both Afghan languages. Consider myself Afghan. Man, tonite is not your night is it?
5) nope, u just ask stupid questions. Stay out of my forum, if you aint gonna speak on proper thangs!!
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You been to Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? Kuwait?
hmm....... yeah i have...
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Kuni i wasnt talkin to u, and my ass u been to Afghanistan,
u a Cali boy, u too delicate for back home , LOL
:D
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Kuni i wasnt talkin to u, and my ass u been to Afghanistan,
u a Cali boy, u too delicate for back home , LOL
:D
lolololol