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Title: did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on January 11, 2004, 11:32:55 AM
because he chased them with paintball guns. Appearently that actually happened when Eminem and his fellows from the D12 group saw ICP coming out of a club one nignt. He and his D12 members chased them and shot at their van with a paintball gun. Of course, ICP denied those facts, because it made them look like real cowards in front of the whole world.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: West C. Connected on January 11, 2004, 11:37:41 AM
It happened, I think.. Or Eminem said it happened..
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Kill on January 11, 2004, 11:41:04 AM
lol
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 11, 2004, 01:29:48 PM
So wait, pulling out a gun and blasting on someone makes you tough and the others cowards? With the gun being a paint ball gun, that makes you even tougher? LMAO. Get over it. If it was Em and D-12, that's 6 people, ICP is 2. Who's the real cowards here? Really. Get over it.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 01:39:57 PM
lol i love how people think you've gotta take down six guys just to be a man...shit i'd run like a mf...i always thought it was funny in "A Man Apart" (w/ vin diesel) when they were talkin...

"what were you doin in the attic?"

"hidin!"

"man what kinda coward shit is that!"

"did you see homie in there with his tounge pulled through his neck! fuck you!"
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 11, 2004, 01:44:09 PM
What's funny is that I can bet if this clown who started this thread came out of a Club and ran into 6 guys with paintball guns, he'd high tail it out of there with the quickness. Fuck that, you ever been hit with a paintball? That shit don't tickle, I'll tell you that much. Sure it won't kill you, but they fucking hurt. Especially if you're getting hit by a bunch. The way I see it, if Em and D-12 were so tough they should've talked it with the hands. If you need any weapon at all, YOU'RE the coward.

Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 01:46:55 PM
What's funny is that I can bet if this clown who started this thread came out of a Club and ran into 6 guys with paintball guns, he'd high tail it out of there with the quickness. Fuck that, you ever been hit with a paintball? That shit don't tickle, I'll tell you that much. Sure it won't kill you, but they fucking hurt. Especially if you're getting hit by a bunch. The way I see it, if Em and D-12 were so tough they should've talked it with the hands. If you need any weapon at all, YOU'RE the coward.



definetely...man even with padding on that shit doesnt make you feel like peaches & cream...i'd book it like i stole something
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 11, 2004, 01:49:49 PM
Yup.

It's funny. Look at the name of the guy who made this thread. It explains why he says what he does. Fuckin clown.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 01:51:02 PM
Yup.

It's funny. Look at the name of the guy who made this thread. It explains why he says what he does. Fuckin clown.

i got no problems with him. i like StillDRE
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 02:05:21 PM
If you need any weapon at all, YOU'RE the coward.

that would make all the gangstas cowards.. and strength would make u a 'real man'.. if a G meets someone who would knock him out and who he got beef with he sure uses his gun
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 02:31:42 PM
ice cubes dad in friday said it best, you may lose the fight...but you live to fight another day. guns are for pussies. now if a dude has a gun and i've got a knife...im not stupid lol. but seriously the world would be better without guns
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 02:35:07 PM
I'm not sayin guns are great or shit but if u think the way sgv seems to think u have to consider most gangstas cowards too
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 02:36:13 PM
I'm not sayin guns are great or shit but if u think the way sgv seems to think u have to consider most gangstas cowards too

i wouldnt say coward...i'd say stupid. it takes a lot of balls to get into a gunfight knowing you could die any second. but its stupid. but i definetely wouldnt say coward.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 02:45:44 PM
I'm not sayin guns are great or shit but if u think the way sgv seems to think u have to consider most gangstas cowards too

i wouldnt say coward...i'd say stupid. it takes a lot of balls to get into a gunfight knowing you could die any second. but its stupid. but i definetely wouldnt say coward.

yeah that's pretty much the way I think about it.. not saying all gs are stupid cuz some of em might not have much opportunities n shit plus it always depends on the situation ur in but if there's a way to avoid it it's stupid
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 11, 2004, 02:54:52 PM
Strength doesn't make you a man. Even the strongest can be cowards. If a "G" gets into some shit with someone, he should be able to handle it with the hands. If not, then he's not as gangsta as he thought. ANYONE can blast. If blasting makes you so gangsta and tough, as it seems you're saying, then the Columbine kids are some of the toughest people around. Right?

Being gangsta doesn't mean you're tough. If someone pulls a gun on you, then I guess you have to. That means you're defending yourself. But, if you run into someone who can whoop on you, and you pull a gun, YOU'RE A COWARD. I don't care if you're gangsta or not. And yes, a majority of gangstas are cowards. They rarely will fight someone one on one. They'd rather jump a person, that's a coward.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 03:00:21 PM
"Any bitch nigga with a gun can bust slugs, even puffy smoked a mothafucka up in a club" - Immortal Technique
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 11, 2004, 03:01:58 PM
"Any bitch nigga with a gun can bust slugs, even puffy smoked a mothafucka up in a club" - Immortal Technique
Well, you left a few parts out. But, exactly what I'm saying. I guess Puffy is tough by Hoe Hoppers standards, because this probably applies to Puffys situation.

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if a G meets someone who would knock him out and who he got beef with he sure uses his gun
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 03:20:17 PM
"Any bitch nigga with a gun can bust slugs, even puffy smoked a mothafucka up in a club" - Immortal Technique
Well, you left a few parts out. But, exactly what I'm saying. I guess Puffy is tough by Hoe Hoppers standards, because this probably applies to Puffys situation.

close enough, it was the same concept:

"any mothafuckin coward can sell drugs, any bitch nigga with a gun can bust slugs, any nigga with a red shirt can front like a blood, even puffy smoked a mothafucka up in a club, but only a real thug can stab someone till they die, standing in front of them, staring straight into their eyes"

Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 03:44:14 PM
"Any bitch nigga with a gun can bust slugs, even puffy smoked a mothafucka up in a club" - Immortal Technique
Well, you left a few parts out. But, exactly what I'm saying. I guess Puffy is tough by Hoe Hoppers standards, because this probably applies to Puffys situation.

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if a G meets someone who would knock him out and who he got beef with he sure uses his gun


taking away that I never said every G is tough, not everybody who defends himself by using a gun is a G.. I'm saying G's handle it that way but that doesn't mean everyone who handles it that way is a G, cuz it takes more to be a G, Puffy for example ain't one

I was just wondering if u think most gangstas are cowards or if u just made that point up to hate on Em but u said u consider most gangstas cowards there's no problem

as for Em, shooting someone with paintballs ain't the same as using a real gun, if I saw some guys I hated and I had such a gun with me I might do it too cuz it's kinda funny and I doubt u're always thinkin "is this really fair" n all that shit.. this ain't serious enough to make u a coward for using a weapon..

now I ain't into icp so I don't know how serious they are when they acting all hard n shit, but someone who considers himself a dangerous/tough guy shouldn't be running from a paintball.. if they're just artist and don't really consider themselves hard it ain't nothin wrong with running.. simple as that
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 11, 2004, 03:48:38 PM
Like I said, Paintballs hurt. Especially if you're being hit by a lot of them. What can they do? They can't rush Em and D-12 if they're all hitting them with Paintballs. They'd have to run off or they'd get hit with a bunch. It's not as severe as a gun, but it's the same concept. They don't want to talk with their hands, so to me, that makes them cowards. If you got beef with a person, and not only do you out number them, but you use something other than your hands, to me you're a coward. From the story, it seems it was 6 on 2. That's not a fair fight. On top of that Em and them had Paintball guns, really not fair. So again, who's the cowards?
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 04:05:51 PM
it would be different if they planned this but they just saw them coming out a club so they spontaneously did that paintball shit, I don't see how that's making u a coward..(were they supposed to send everybody but 2 of em back to make it 2 vs 2 or what?) and d12 only had 1 gun plus we dunno if all of em were there.. if icp claim to be hard they shoulda tried to catch em or something, their chance to win would be small but like Luke quoted "you may lose the fight...but you live to fight another day" LoL.. I'm not sayin that's what I woulda done but then again I don't claim to be hard.. getting into a fair fight is something everybody can do, so where's the difference between normal guys and hard ones.. I bet u woulda laughed ur ass of if it was Tray Deee who run from a paintball gun wouldn't u..
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 11, 2004, 04:23:48 PM
it would be different if they planned this but they just saw them coming out a club so they spontaneously did that paintball shit, I don't see how that's making u a coward..(were they supposed to send everybody but 2 of em back to make it 2 vs 2 or what?) and d12 only had 1 gun plus we dunno if all of em were there.. if icp claim to be hard they shoulda tried to catch em or something, their chance to win would be small but like Luke quoted "you may lose the fight...but you live to fight another day" LoL.. I'm not sayin that's what I woulda done but then again I don't claim to be hard.. getting into a fair fight is something everybody can do, so where's the difference between normal guys and hard ones.. I bet u woulda laughed ur ass of if it was Tray Deee who run from a paintball gun wouldn't u..
Yea, it was spontaneous. LOL. I'm sure D-12 just carries Paintball guns where ever they go. Haha. That's hilarious. It was NOT spontaneous. See, there's a difference between hard and difference between idiotic. I've been jumped, while you're being jumped you DON'T know if you're gonna make it out. So that "you live to fight another day" shit don't really work. 6 on 2, that's 3 on 1. You know what damage they can do? Exactly. ICP was not being pussy for running, they're being smart. That's how you live to fight another day. You pick your battles accordingly. If I know I'm gonna get jumped, I'll be out. I'll wait until I catch them slipping. Anyone can get in a fair fight, but that's what proves if you can get down, not that you're hard. What makes you hard is the shit you've been through, how you handle yourself, you're fighting ability, among other shit. What makes you a coward is acting tough, but resorting to using weapons, or homies, to fight your battles. I wouldn't laugh if Tray Deee ran from Paintballs, because like I said, THEY HURT. I've been hit with them, no padding, it's no fucking picnic. Hating aside. This could've said:

Tray Deee and 5 of his homies rolled up on Dre and Eminem and blasted at them with Paintballs. Em and Dre ran.

Tray Deee and his homies would be cowards. So, don't even try other angles with me. If you act hard, like Em and D-12 do, then you should've handled it with your fists. They could've all rolled up on ICP. At least they would've shown that they weren't afraid to fight. But, they didn't even do that. They're cowards. Point blank period.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: The Watcher on January 11, 2004, 04:37:49 PM
Yeah, D12 chased ICP out of a club in Detroit with 1 paintball gun, not 20 like some people may think. Oh, and paintball guns dont hurt that much. anyone who's been hit with one would know that. unless you're gettin hit in the face, it doesnt really hurt @ all
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 04:41:11 PM
Yeah, D12 chased ICP out of a club in Detroit with 1 paintball gun, not 20 like some people may think. Oh, and paintball guns dont hurt that much. anyone who's been hit with one would know that. unless you're gettin hit in the face, it doesnt really hurt @ all

wrong. i've been hit with paintballs and if you get hit at the right angle and in the right spot that shit can hurt like hell & even leave marks
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 04:46:46 PM
Yea, it was spontaneous. LOL. I'm sure D-12 just carries Paintball guns where ever they go. Haha. That's hilarious. It was NOT spontaneous. See, there's a difference between hard and difference between idiotic. I've been jumped, while you're being jumped you DON'T know if you're gonna make it out. So that "you live to fight another day" shit don't really work. 6 on 2, that's 3 on 1. You know what damage they can do? Exactly. ICP was not being pussy for running, they're being smart. That's how you live to fight another day. You pick your battles accordingly. If I know I'm gonna get jumped, I'll be out. I'll wait until I catch them slipping. Anyone can get in a fair fight, but that's what proves if you can get down, not that you're hard. What makes you hard is the shit you've been through, how you handle yourself, you're fighting ability, among other shit. What makes you a coward is acting tough, but resorting to using weapons, or homies, to fight your battles. I wouldn't laugh if Tray Deee ran from Paintballs, because like I said, THEY HURT. I've been hit with them, no padding, it's no fucking picnic. Hating aside. This could've said:

Tray Deee and 5 of his homies rolled up on Dre and Eminem and blasted at them with Paintballs. Em and Dre ran.

Tray Deee and his homies would be cowards. So, don't even try other angles with me. If you act hard, like Em and D-12 do, then you should've handled it with your fists. They could've all rolled up on ICP. At least they would've shown that they weren't afraid to fight. But, they didn't even do that. They're cowards. Point blank period.

how do u know it wasn't spontaneous, the way STILLDRE said it it sounds like they did.. they might have had the paintball gun for shooting on whatever, like Em and his homies did in 8 Mile.. how many people plan to jump somebody with a paintball gun..?
and like I said we don't know how many people either side consisted of at that very moment.. just cuz the artists are 2 it doesn't mean there were only two, they sure aren't always with each other only lol plus we don't know if all d12 members were there either..

and u might have been through hella shit and u can still be a coward, that alone doesn't make nobody hard.. a hard person, compared to an average person, has to define himself as being hard by acting differently than the average person in exactly situations like this one.. since we dunno who many they were we dunno how much of a chance they had to win


Dre ain't claiming to be hard no more so he doesn't need to act like a tough guy (I'm not talking about lyrics but what he sais in interviews, his lyrics are what he sais as an artist), if Tray Deee would run I would be laughing and I bet if u ask him he'd tell u he'd never run from a paintball gun
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 04:48:43 PM
as for the pain a paintball can cause, personally I never been hit by one but I got homies how been shooting each other for fun so I doubt it's that bad
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on January 11, 2004, 04:54:17 PM
mannnn.....Tha art of gang bangin is "it's on, on site" and when U have 6 muthafucaz behind U, gang bangin or not, Ur going to feel superior....dats 4 sho, dats human beings 4 U....and ofcourse when U spot yur enemies, U act upon it and see em....dats a given when yur mobbin like that....now I dunno what exactly tha situation was here....but wutever it waz these cats is cowards using them paintball guns....muthafucaz like D12 act like they bravehearts but never face tha bull by its horns....I kno they aint no killas, they are D12, in public eye....but famous or not, at tha end of tha day U gotta be a MAN about yours....COWARDS!

btw, Proof got his ass jumped by Murda Inc....and everyone waz quick 2 call Murda Inc cowards 4 it....I remember that shit....but what they don't realize is Murda Inc banged on him wit they bear fists and got him when they saw him.....how are they punks 4 it? when battle lines are drawn between TEAMS, U better be ready 2 battle like MEN....against 1 man or 10, if U are associating, U better have tha heart for it....COWARDS!




Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 05:02:30 PM
^^the only thing I agree with in a way is the last one, if u claim u're all that, u gotta be it, even if ur ournumbered.. I dunno how exactly Proof acted, so I can't speak on him but ICP coulda tried something even if they were outnumbered, I think yall are overrating that paintball factor, I don't think if u run up on a guy he can stop u with a paintball..
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: The Watcher on January 11, 2004, 05:20:42 PM
Yeah, D12 chased ICP out of a club in Detroit with 1 paintball gun, not 20 like some people may think. Oh, and paintball guns dont hurt that much. anyone who's been hit with one would know that. unless you're gettin hit in the face, it doesnt really hurt @ all

wrong. i've been hit with paintballs and if you get hit at the right angle and in the right spot that shit can hurt like hell & even leave marks

i go paintballing maybe twice a month and can pretty much vouch that 90% of the hits dont hurt @ all
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Ðøšïå on January 11, 2004, 05:46:58 PM
maybe em and d12 wanted to fight them also.... and wanted to hit them with a paintball gun just to start shit. Ive gone to a fight 5 on 5 and my friend had a bat in each hand is he a coward?, the people told him to drop them so he did and the kids still wouldnt fight they bounced.
I could really care less about fighting, but sometimes in tucson, azrizona there isnt much else to do. You go to the mall people talk shit you take it somewhere else and scrap.

(I dont know anything about this d12/icp situation, just trying to make a point)
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Jome on January 11, 2004, 06:35:11 PM
When it all comes down to it, d12 say they rushed them outta there with paintguns, and ICP says it never happened, so unless nobody knows 100%, what's the point in discussing it..
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Don Breezio on January 11, 2004, 06:50:04 PM
Yeah, D12 chased ICP out of a club in Detroit with 1 paintball gun, not 20 like some people may think. Oh, and paintball guns dont hurt that much. anyone who's been hit with one would know that. unless you're gettin hit in the face, it doesnt really hurt @ all

wrong. i've been hit with paintballs and if you get hit at the right angle and in the right spot that shit can hurt like hell & even leave marks

i go paintballing maybe twice a month and can pretty much vouch that 90% of the hits dont hurt @ all

yeah but you're used to it...somebody who rarely gets hit with a paintball will most likely feel different.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Code Blue on January 11, 2004, 07:12:53 PM
Yeah, guns shouldn't be the first thing used when you have beef with someone, but unfortunately in today's age they are. Dudes rather be known as a "killa" then be known as someone with squabbles. If the air was poisonous, and everyone had gas masks, I'd be sure to get one my damn self too. That's how it with guns in today's society. Sad but true.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on January 11, 2004, 10:26:40 PM
I doubt this ever happened.  Just think of how silly it is too.  Paintballs....yeah that's fuckin' hard shootin' paintballs at somebody.  What I DO think is funny though, is that Eminem passed out flyers in like 1996 and to get people to come to his concert he put "ICP might show up". hehehehe.....
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on January 11, 2004, 11:33:47 PM
^^lmao that sure would be funny if true, did Em confirm it?
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: da_notorious_mack on January 12, 2004, 01:21:56 AM
urrr so sgv by your standards....

95% of rappers are cowards if they got the guns they say they have..and if they aint got the guns they say they have...then they fake,...

an also goin by your anaylsis the hardest rappers in the game are will smith nelly an jd...i never heard none of them talk about they heat...


an word...if i was with 6 homeboys against 2 clowns id shoot em wit paintballs..shits jus like eggin people really...ya dont do as much to hurt the person as to embarass em...
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on January 12, 2004, 01:49:52 AM
sgv you seriously you are 1 dumb fucker

im showing some thing ive just found cos i thought a couple of clowns getting shot with a paintball gun was a little funny oh but anyway youll probaly tell me how icp could rap better than d12

but then again theres no point arguing with you cos this has something to do with  em who has some thing to do with dre and 50 get what im trying to say no matter what the topic if it has these names or anything to do with these youve got to ruin the thread
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: NobodyButMe on January 12, 2004, 06:36:26 AM
if i was gettin shot at with a paintball gun i'd run too, just so my jacket wouldn't get fucked up
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: T-Dogg on January 13, 2004, 12:42:16 AM
Man how did this thread get like this? Talkin' 'bout who was the coward in the situation and all that shit... What the fuck? They were fuckin' paintball guns!

an word...if i was with 6 homeboys against 2 clowns id shoot em wit paintballs..shits jus like eggin people really...ya dont do as much to hurt the person as to embarass em...

That's it right there! D12 were just trying to embarass them, and they did. Ain't no use going into talks like "Well eminem is a real coward because he and his homies used weapons against just 2 guys". Fuck all that. They shot paintballs at them to make them a laughing stock. And 'cause ICP drove away in their van/truck/whatever they succeeded probably better than they thought they would. The end.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on January 13, 2004, 04:09:14 PM
That's it right there! D12 were just trying to embarass them, and they did. Ain't no use going into talks like "Well eminem is a real coward because he and his homies used weapons against just 2 guys". Fuck all that. They shot paintballs at them to make them a laughing stock. And 'cause ICP drove away in their van/truck/whatever they succeeded probably better than they thought they would. The end.

How does anybody know this actually happened?  I definitely don't believe it happened.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 13, 2004, 05:51:51 PM
btw, Proof got his ass jumped by Murda Inc....and everyone waz quick 2 call Murda Inc cowards 4 it....I remember that shit....but what they don't realize is Murda Inc banged on him wit they bear fists and got him when they saw him.....how are they punks 4 it? when battle lines are drawn between TEAMS, U better be ready 2 battle like MEN....against 1 man or 10, if U are associating, U better have tha heart for it....COWARDS!

Rod finished the thread here.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: SGV on January 13, 2004, 06:08:10 PM
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sgv you seriously you are 1 dumb fucker
Ouch!  ::)

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im showing some thing ive just found cos i thought a couple of clowns getting shot with a paintball gun was a little funny oh but anyway youll probaly tell me how icp could rap better than d12
While it's funny, you called them cowards. So that's on you. I called you on it. ICP's horrorcore music is better than D-12's. That's as far as it goes. Eminem is more talented than them on his worst day. OMG! Did I say that?

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but then again theres no point arguing with you cos this has something to do with  em who has some thing to do with dre and 50 get what im trying to say no matter what the topic if it has these names or anything to do with these youve got to ruin the thread

Yea, I'm sorry StillDre. How are YOU gonna pull the bias card with a name like that? Dre IS Eminem's mentor, so yea buddy. Good job.
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 19, 2004, 03:04:05 PM
It wasn't only ICP, it was ICP and Twizted...
Title: Re:did this really happen eminem icp beef
Post by: eS El Duque on January 19, 2004, 03:51:28 PM
Paintballs don't hurt much..they stink for a while...then after they don't hurt as much.

I went paintballing like 5 weeks ago..some skinny ass chick got nailed with tons of paintballs..and she didn't cry  ;D

i think em shooting icp with paintballs is pretty funny...at least they weren't real guns