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Title: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Pillow on July 17, 2002, 09:35:17 PM
yo i posted this poem a while back in the keystyle forum under "poetry" but nothing ever got posted back on it so i thought i would make a thread. i wrote this poem 3 weeks after the 9-11 attacks. it is the best piece of work i have ever done, i may even get it published. feedback would be appriciated.......


TWO THOUSAND ONE, NINE ELEVEN

Two thousand one, nine eleven
Five thousand plus arrive in heaven
As they pass through the gate,
Thousands more appear in wait

A bearded man with stovepipe hat
Steps forward saying, "Lets sit, lets chat"
They settle down in seats of clouds
A man named Martin shouts out proud
"I have a dream!" and once he did
The Newcomer said, "Your dream still lives."

Groups of soldiers in blue and gray
Others in khaki, and green then say
"We're from Bull Run, Yorktown, the Maine"
The Newcomer said, "You died not in vain."

From a man on sticks one could hear
"The only thing we have to fear.
The Newcomer said, "We know the rest,
Trust us sir, we've passed that test."

"Courage doesn't hide in caves
You can't bury freedom, in a grave,"
The Newcomers had heard this voice before
A distinct Yankees twang from Hyannisport shores.

A silence fell within the mist
Somehow the Newcomer knew that this
Meant time had come for her to say
What was in the hearts of the five thousand plus that day.

"Back on Earth, we wrote reports,
Watched our children play in sports
Worked our gardens, sang our songs
Went to church and clipped coupons
We smiled, we laughed, we cried, we fought
Unlike you, great we're not"

The tall man in the stovepipe hat
Stood and said, "Don't talk like that!
Look at your country, look and see
You died for freedom, just like me."

Then, before them all appeared a scene
Of rubbled streets and twisted beams
Death, destruction, smoke and dust
And people working just 'cause they must
Hauling ash, lifting stones,
Knee deep in hell, but not alone

"Look! Blackman, Whiteman, Brownman, Yellowman
Side by side helping their fellow man!"
So said Martin, as he watched the scene
"Even from nightmares, can be born a dream."
Down below three firemen raised
The colors high into ashen haze
The soldiers above had seen it before
On Iwo Jima back in '44

The man on sticks studied everything closely
Then shared his perceptions on what he saw mostly
"I see pain, I see tears,
I see sorrow - but I don't see fear."

"You left behind husbands and wives
Daughters and sons and so many lives
Are suffering now because of this wrong
But look very closely. You're not really gone.
All of those people, even those who've never met you
All of their lives, they'll never forget you
Don't you see what has happened?
Don't you see what you've done?
You've brought them together, together as one."

With that the man in the stovepipe hat said
"Take my hand," and from there he led
Five thousand plus heroes, Newcomers to heaven
On this day, two thousand one, nine eleven

peace.....

..::TinMaN::..
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 09:54:35 PM
so many other bigger tragedies in the world i never see anyone write about them.....

how bout the palestine vs israel battle with over like 5,000 dead

what about afganistan and all the casualties there, how would u like it if some country bombed your wedding?

what about all the poor people in africa starving, and all the innocent kids with HIV?

what about all the other people suffering all over the world because of the US?

it seems like the US is all that matters to you people, it doesnt matter where were from, were all human
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Pillow on July 17, 2002, 10:00:16 PM
i ll keep my mouth shut on ur comment dog...
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:04:16 PM
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i ll keep my mouth shut on ur comment dog...


why because im speaking the truth and it shut you up?
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Pillow on July 17, 2002, 10:15:21 PM
na dogg, u speak the truth in some ways i ll give u that, but they way u said it wasnt tha best put. it sounded kinda fucked up. i lost some friends in that attack and its a big ass deal dogg. we have never been attacked on american soil b4 and it may happen again. and america tries to help every1 man with there problems but we cant take care of every country. i mean look, we dropped food on afghanistan and the mother fuckain taliban took that shit away, that was fucked up. we know whats goin on out there, but it aint happing to us so we dont write shit about it, and the ppl its actually happeing to and being affected by it more then likey dont have a comp to post about tha shit....... u sound a little in considerite to what happend to america on 9/11
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 17, 2002, 10:21:20 PM
that was fucked up doggy.  he's talkin about shit he kno's about an gets deep an u gotta get all infinite on us.  So there is other shit goin on in tha world,  what an american is not supposed to care about what will affect him for tha rest of his life.  thats fucked up
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:21:35 PM
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na dogg, u speak the truth in some ways i ll give u that, but they way u said it wasnt tha best put. it sounded kinda fucked up. i lost some friends in that attack and its a big ass deal dogg. we have never been attacked on american soil b4 and it may happen again. and america tries to help every1 man with there problems but we cant take care of every country. i mean look, we dropped food on afghanistan and the mother fuckain taliban took that shit away, that was fucked up. we know whats goin on out there, but it aint happing to us so we dont write shit about it, and the ppl its actually happeing to and being affected by it more then likey dont have a comp to post about tha shit....... u sound a little in considerite to what happend to america on 9/11


all i gotta say is dont let the media blind you, keep your eyes and mind open and search for knowledge , dont let others put shit in your mind. yes the 9/11 attacks was some shit, but shit happens, and it didnt happen for nothin, the US HAD to have done somethin to piss them off, so its all the US's fault, its like this, the US is like this.....

one kid hits another kid.....the other kid gets mad and punches the other kid and the teacher sees so the 2nd guy is known as the bad guy.

so the US is doin some dirt, gets hit and acts like it never did anything.
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:25:18 PM
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that was fucked up doggy.  he's talkin about shit he kno's about an gets deep an u gotta get all infinite on us.  So there is other shit goin on in tha world,  what an american is not supposed to care about what will affect him for tha rest of his life.  thats fucked up


no it wasnt fucked up, its called bein open minded and not a blind patriot. so your sayin, americans shouldnt give a fuck about the rest of the world? your sayin it wont affect a americans life? this is exactly how 911 happened, if you cared about the world, and wanted to change things the gov is doin you actually could, but amerians are too caught up with themselves to care about what the fuck is happenin in the world, now dont come in here sayin i got all infinite on him, im myself.
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Pillow on July 17, 2002, 10:27:29 PM
na, fuck that, america didnt deserve that shit at all, all the ppl that died and there famlies lives that are now ruined forever because of the possiblity that front office fucked up? fuck that shit, no one deserves shit like that dude. those ppl didnt have anything to do with what was going on in tha white house and other government places....if tha white house was fucking up then they should have tried to assainate the president or some shit, not kill all those ppl and fuck thier famlies lives up....fuck that shit man....
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:28:26 PM
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na, fuck that, america didnt deserve that shit at all, all the ppl that died and there famlies lives that are now ruined forever because of the possiblity that front office fucked up? fuck that shit, no one deserves shit like that dude. those ppl didnt have anything to do with what was going on in tha white house and other government places....if tha white house was fucking up then they should have tried to assainate the president or some shit, not kill all those ppl and fuck thier famlies lives up....fuck that shit man....


again words of ignorance, go fuckin read up
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Pillow on July 17, 2002, 10:30:39 PM
u dont know shit about america dude, americans are the most compasionite ppl on earth, the country u live in gives us a bad name....fuck that shit, its not ur fault ur not educated on feelings and americas personallities.......ur one fucked up SOB man
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Pillow on July 17, 2002, 10:32:10 PM
ur prolly a fucking terrorist ur self u evil fuck, fuck u
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:35:06 PM
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u dont know shit about america dude, americans are the most compasionite ppl on earth, the country u live in gives us a bad name....fuck that shit, its not ur fault ur not educated on feelings and americas personallities.......ur one fucked up SOB man


yea right.....i dont know shit about the country ive been living in my whole life? son please.....dont let this get into a beef, i was just spittin my opinion and you call me a fucked up SOB, im not educated on feelings? uhh? ok dood ::), and wtf are you sayin? the country i live in gives you a bad name? please make some fuckin sense
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 17, 2002, 10:35:56 PM
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no it wasnt fucked up, its called bein open minded and not a blind patriot. so your sayin, americans shouldnt give a fuck about the rest of the world? your sayin it wont affect a americans life? this is exactly how 911 happened, if you cared about the world, and wanted to change things the gov is doin you actually could, but amerians are too caught up with themselves to care about what the fuck is happenin in the world, now dont come in here sayin i got all infinite on him, im myself.

when did i say we shouldnt care about other.  im askin u whats wrong wit him caring about his country.  Its what he knows about,  he did not put in it fuck afganastan,  fuck muslims.  No he made a song for tha 2000+ lost on that day.  it sounds like what your basically sayin we shouldnt give a fuck about tha people that died on that cuz there r other tradegys worse than that.  In my eyes that puts u on tha same level of tha american govt that try's 2 hide tha bull shit they have done.  Now its not on that level but when all is said an done its like tha same thing.  Does that make things right 4 sayin fuck tha 2000+ lost on that day b/c of tha shit that is kept hidden.  Im not accusing u of sayin that u said fuck tha people that died but thats what it sought of sounded like.  There r better ways to make people aware of tha hypocricies of tha american gov't than diss a person 4 writing some deep shit for those lost.  Its like if i wrote some shit for my dad bein a wheel chair an some1 bitchin at me for not writing about those that are quadrapaligics (sp). im would be writing about what i kno,  an thats what tinman did.  U shouldnt snap on him 4 that
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:36:29 PM
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ur prolly a fucking terrorist ur self u evil fuck, fuck u


post shit like that and ill lock your fuckin shit, that shits not even on topic, way off, i can go on about ur ass but im not.
get ya mind right
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: KonSICKwence on July 17, 2002, 10:37:11 PM
they are all big ass deals!

any event were there is suffering and death that could easily be prevented is a big ass deal!

especially nine eleven becuase it was planned before hand by our own fuckin nation!

but anywayz i dont feel like explaingin it all rite now jsut copy the lifted indiivudalz albulm when it drops and you will hear some shit and make you recognize what is really going on.

pz
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 17, 2002, 10:39:00 PM
now if u wanan snap on tinman for callin u a terroist i understand cuz that was uncalled 4.  cuz tho u do let kno that tha american govt does fucked up shit,  ur more level minded than most that talk about an realize that every country does fucked up shit.  U realize every govt does good an bad an majority of countries r primary concerned for tha interest of there own peeps
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:40:54 PM
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when did i say we shouldnt care about other.  im askin u whats wrong wit him caring about his country.  Its what he knows about,  he did not put in it fuck afganastan,  fuck muslims.  No he made a song for tha 2000+ lost on that day.  it sounds like what your basically sayin we shouldnt give a fuck about tha people that died on that cuz there r other tradegys worse than that.  In my eyes that puts u on tha same level of tha american govt that try's 2 hide tha bull shit they have done.  Now its not on that level but when all is said an done its like tha same thing.  Does that make things right 4 sayin fuck tha 2000+ lost on that day b/c of tha shit that is kept hidden.  Im not accusing u of sayin that u said fuck tha people that died but thats what it sought of sounded like.  There r better ways to make people aware of tha hypocricies of tha american gov't than diss a person 4 writing some deep shit for those lost.  Its like if i wrote some shit for my dad bein a wheel chair an some1 bitchin at me for not writing about those that are quadrapaligics (sp). im would be writing about what i kno,  an thats what tinman did.  U shouldnt snap on him 4 that


dont put words in my mouth, who gives a shit if it sounded like it, i never said it, did i?, NO. i am just sayin, its cool ur writin about shit like this, but dogg, look at the world, so many worse things happen, so dont act like its the worst thing in the world, many others are suffering cuz of america and yall cant see this? and its diff than u writin for your dad cuz...

just about everyone in american has written shit for those people dead, who the fuck in america has written a single positive word for all that shit i listed?, god damnit yall, stop fuckin arguing with  me, i promise its a waste of your time cuz ill school yall in every muthafuckin angle
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on July 17, 2002, 10:41:12 PM
I liked what you wrote Tinman. I think it is good that you still remember, and care. I agree with Flip that there are alot of other things that should be talked about also, but I don't see a thing wrong with showing your respect to the families of the victims of 9/11. Peace.
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:42:10 PM
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now if u wanan snap on tinman for callin u a terroist i understand cuz that was uncalled 4.  cuz tho u do let kno that tha american govt does fucked up shit,  ur more level minded than most that talk about an realize that every country does fucked up shit.  U realize every govt does good an bad an majority of countries r primary concerned for tha interest of there own peeps


yes but the US is nosy as fuck and that bugs me
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:43:55 PM
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I liked what you wrote Tinman. I think it is good that you still remember, and care. I agree with Flip that there are alot of other things that should be talked about also, but I don't see a thing wrong with showing your respect to the families of the victims of 9/11. Peace.


im glad that u see it that way and that there are open minded americans like u out there, seems like everyone i try to talk abou this to is a total fuckin jerk.....im talkin about people offline, and there are people online too
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on July 17, 2002, 10:49:29 PM
Yeah, I think about alot of stuff. I'm not gonna front and say that I think about those things you mentioned earlier more than I think of 9/11, but all world problems hit me. I pray for all the innocent victims of the world dogg. I try not to think of it too much, cause it weighs me down, but all I can do is pray, and hope.
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 17, 2002, 10:51:21 PM
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dont put words in my mouth, who gives a shit if it sounded like it, i never said it, did i?, NO. i am just sayin, its cool ur writin about shit like this, but dogg, look at the world, so many worse things happen, so dont act like its the worst thing in the world, many others are suffering cuz of america and yall cant see this? and its diff than u writin for your dad cuz...

just about everyone in american has written shit for those people dead, who the fuck in america has written a single positive word for all that shit i listed?, god damnit yall, stop fuckin arguing with  me, i promise its a waste of your time cuz ill school yall in every muthafuckin angle

when did i say it is tha worst thing to ever happen.  Tell me whats so fuckin wrong wit a muthafucka writing this shit.  cuz he dont kno about other shit,  he dont kno about tha fucked up shit america has done.  whats so wrong about writing a song about those lost.   When u start dissin muh fuckas for writing shit like this aint no1 goin wanna hear what u gotta say than.  go ahead an school me on this shit cuz i dont know as much as u do on tha subject an quite frankly i could give 2 shit cuz i got more in my life to worry about,  like they say ignorance is bliss,  an dun im one ignorant muh fucka.  call me a typical american that dont care about any1 else,  cuz u kno what cuz i dont.  I dont care,  now i dont wish any1 harm an those im cool wit im goin wish tha best for which includes u doggy,  but yo im not goin stress myself over worldly bull shit.  cuz i got more important shit to worry about like my college an my family.  Maybe its diff for you cuz this shit is happenin to your peeps.  So go ahead an school an teach me suptin cuz im open to learn suptin new,  but dont come disrespectin those that died,  cuz that muh fucka tinman didnt disrespect any1 in his poem.  an tha only time he disrespected some1 was when he called u a terroist which i was uncalled 4.  i understand why your pissed but instead of dissin tha guy there better ways 2 drop knowledge on him.  granted if u come passive he wont listen an u need some agression to get your point across but u dont need to degrade what he was writing about cuz his heart was in tha right place.  i dont wanna see any harm on these people cuz quite frankly i think tha american people should be made aware of it cuz it is fucked up it is hidden from us like it is
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 17, 2002, 10:54:35 PM
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yes but the US is nosy as fuck and that bugs me

u kno it an even prince tech admitted it,  that if tha american govt didnt intervene in a lot of shit a lot of other countrys would be like there a world power an they aint doin shit,  them pieces of shit.  But also tha american govt can handle a lot of situations better than they have.  cuz i look at it this way.  if dont do shit,  other countrys will hate for not caring about tha world.  If your not aggresive,  ignorant ameicans will be like,  why arent u bombin tha fuck outta these peeps,  so either way it lose lose but they is tha fine median tha american govt cant find or either refuses to find
i aint goin front cuz a lot of tha fucked up shit tha american govt does i dont kno about so im not goin front like i know more than u cuz i dont
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 10:58:52 PM
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when did i say it is tha worst thing to ever happen.  Tell me whats so fuckin wrong wit a muthafucka writing this shit.  cuz he dont kno about other shit,  he dont kno about tha fucked up shit america has done.  whats so wrong about writing a song about those lost.   When u start dissin muh fuckas for writing shit like this aint no1 goin wanna hear what u gotta say than.  go ahead an school me on this shit cuz i dont know as much as u do on tha subject an quite frankly i could give 2 shit cuz i got more in my life to worry about,  like they say ignorance is bliss,  an dun im one ignorant muh fucka.  call me a typical american that dont care about any1 else,  cuz u kno what cuz i dont.  I dont care,  now i dont wish any1 harm an those im cool wit im goin wish tha best for which includes u doggy,  but yo im not goin stress myself over worldly bull shit.  cuz i got more important shit to worry about like my college an my family.  Maybe its diff for you cuz this shit is happenin to your peeps.  So go ahead an school an teach me suptin cuz im open to learn suptin new,  but dont come disrespectin those that died,  cuz that muh fucka tinman didnt disrespect any1 in his poem.  an tha only time he disrespected some1 was when he called u a terroist which i was uncalled 4.  i understand why your pissed but instead of dissin tha guy there better ways 2 drop knowledge on him.  granted if u come passive he wont listen an u need some agression to get your point across but u dont need to degrade what he was writing about cuz his heart was in tha right place.  i dont wanna see any harm on these people cuz quite frankly i think tha american people should be made aware of it cuz it is fucked up it is hidden from us like it is


i think you know enough, and already are schooled,ur a smart guy and will learn for yourself, i was tryin to get at the dumbfucks like tinman and open him up but obviously he aint up for that and would rather get offended and call me a terrorist, man, i get upset when people die too, i care about those affected as much as those affected anywhere else in the world by a tragedy, were all human......, now u seem like a angry dude, so ima stop this here with you cuz i dont wanna let this start some bullshit., now again im gonna say it, i didnt mean to say he shouldnt have written his shit, i was just tryin to say, good shit dogg but open up and take a look at all these other tragedies, their just as bad dogg.
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: ToNe1904 on July 17, 2002, 10:58:56 PM
i dont think anyone is saying that America "deserves" what happened to them on 9/11. But what sum of yall dont understand...is that the feelings u have regarding 9/11...and the frustrations, anger, and sadness u felt...are exactly what other countries have been feeling for years...and some if it, because of the US. Whether or not that other countries government has been fuked up (like ours), there citizens and innocent people didnt deserve to die...just like ours didnt. So yah, 9/11 was wrong...and yah it was a tragedy. All Flip is tryna tell u is...beware of the other tragedies in the world...and dont only dwell on yur own personal ones. Thats what got us in this mess in the first place.

PS-Keep speakin yah mind flip homie  ;)
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 11:00:41 PM
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i dont think anyone is saying that America "deserves" what happened to them on 9/11. But what sum of yall dont understand...is that the feelings u have regarding 9/11...and the frustrations, anger, and sadness u felt...are exactly what other countries have been feeling for years...and some if it, because of the US. Whether or not that other countries government has been fuked up (like ours), there citizens and innocent people didnt deserve to die...just like ours didnt. So yah, 9/11 was wrong...and yah it was a tragedy. All Flip is tryna tell u is...beware of the other tragedies in the world...and dont only dwell on yur own personal ones. Thats what got us in this mess in the first place.

PS-Keep speakin yah mind flip homie  ;)


word, EXACTLY!!!
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 17, 2002, 11:09:31 PM
That was some nice shit Tinman. Props.
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Instant_Killa on July 17, 2002, 11:10:02 PM
flipp didnt say it nicely(had an arrogant tone), + tinman fucked the topic by dissin flipp

so that fucked things up
lol

but  on the other hand, its good that tinman wrote the shit for the vitims n all, i wouldnt start arguinging with him, but yea we all should keep in mind of the other tragedies that are happening, have happened and will happen in this world of ours.

peace
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 11:12:38 PM
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flipp didnt say it nicely(had an arrogant tone), + tinman fucked the topic by dissin flipp

so that fucked things up
lol

but  on the other hand, its good that tinman wrote the shit for the vitims n all, i wouldnt start arguinging with him, but yea we all should keep in mind of the other tragedies that are happening, have happened and will happen in this world of ours.

peace


whoa you made a decent post, good job dude, your on your way up, make posts like this and not your dumb shit and we can keep it cool, lol
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: Doggystylin on July 17, 2002, 11:16:00 PM
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That was some nice shit Tinman. Props.


damn, look at sikotic, always keepin it simple, cool, calm. not gettin mixed in the drama, i respect you man, props
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: ToNe1904 on July 18, 2002, 12:31:04 AM
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damn, look at sikotic, always keepin it simple, cool, calm. not gettin mixed in the drama, i respect you man, props


FUCK SIKOTIC!












lol j/k

jus wanna see sum drama frum Sikotic  ;D
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: bLaDe on July 18, 2002, 11:06:10 AM
yo nice shit props, peace 2 all those who deceased, "through man tha  devil attacks.."

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: That_Cracka_J on July 19, 2002, 12:34:35 PM
Tight poem Tinman...
Title: Re: 9/11 dedication
Post by: morbidenigma on January 19, 2011, 12:52:48 PM
lol

bush knocked down the towers !