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Title: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: BossPlaya on May 25, 2002, 08:04:25 PM
I mean Im  startin to think about it a lot, even dough people tell not to, jus worry about living your life n' stuff like dat, n' dat's coo n' all but I can't help but thinking wut iz going to happen after i die....like an afterlife, meeting God, hell or heaven?? To think about, shit iz scary...i mean i have committed a lot of sins...n' i don't know if God see's me as a good or bad person....n e wayz, u guys ever think about death? If u think dis iz fucked or i am fucked, it's coo, I meet tons of people who think dat talking or thinking about death is fucked up n' people like dat r weird! This has nuthin' to do wit religion, jus if u think about death n' wut iz gonna happen to u after u die...
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: bLaDe on May 25, 2002, 09:54:23 PM
Well my religon does not belive in heaven or hell, instead it belives in reincarnation.  Therefore, when i die, i will be reincarnated, and the cycle will continue over and over.  In order to get out of the cycle, i must be 'baptized' and follow Sikhism[my religon] strictly,etc, and then when i die, my soul will be merged with Gods, and i shall attain eternal peace, bliss etc....On a more personal perspective, i dont really fear death, as long as I die a natural death, and have something to make my proud of the life i live.  Numsayin, i dont wanna die just like that, outta nowhere, ya know.

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 25, 2002, 11:34:00 PM
I don't really worry about it, my religion believes in the 'ministering of angels', so, basically, AS you're dying, your heavenly father won't leave you alone, he sends angels to carry you over to the other side.  So, while we think it's scary now, when it actually happens, there will be angels present, and you'll be pretty calm and relaxed... this is one of the reasons people 'know' when they're dying.  That's just my .02, it's not really an official church stance or anything, just what I've gathered and learned.  It's alright to think about death, man, it's probably a stage you're going through.  I learned a lot about death when I touched my dad's body as he lay in his casket a year ago, if you've ever done that, it really, really, really makes you believe in an afterlife... because it's obvious their soul is just gone, the dead body doesn't feel human at all... because it's not, it's just a shell.  If you've ever touched a dead body, it really drives the point home that what makes you human is not on the the earth anymore, after you've died.  
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: tnp on May 26, 2002, 07:16:21 AM
Trauma I had the opposite experience when my dad died. I guess it drives home your proclivities towards a certain faith or philosophy or whatever, but I was raised atheist. Seeing my dad dead, in his bed, saying my goodbyes made me realize that I have one life to live, so I best not fuck it up. I was raised to believe this is my only shot, and that really illustrated it to me, since my dad won't have any other chances.

peace,
tnp
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: Doggystylin on May 26, 2002, 07:45:39 AM
yeah ive thought about death a lot of times, to many to count, so anyways, yeah ive thought about many ways i could die and then ive thought about heaven and hell, and then ive thought about what god thinks about me....and im thinkin... well i cant figure out whats gonna happen, so im just gonna make the best of things and try to live a good positive life the best that i can so that when i die i can say, hey i tried my best.

i dunno, sometimes i think, naw i dont know about heaven, it seems boring and like a retirement home, lol, but then again sometimes, i get this weird feeling and like damn....heaven must be like this, or if its better then damn, i wanna go there now, take me god, lol. hell must suck though, cause people think hell is fire and shit but i think its just exactly what you hate, everything that you dont want to happen happens and shit

anyways, those are my thoughts on afterlife
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 26, 2002, 08:23:46 AM
Latter day saints believe there's 3 heavens (with varying levels), almost everyone gets a reward in the afterlife, very few go to hell... and our prophet, Joseph Smith, said (about the lowest heaven, the telestial) something to the effect, that if you could see 1 slice of what the telestial kingdom was like, we'd all kill ourselves to go there (we believe people who commit suicide go to the lowest heaven the telestial)... so, apparently, heaven's pretty nice, compared to earth, LOL. Even the lowest form of heaven is worth killing yourself, lol.  
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on May 26, 2002, 08:39:01 AM
yo man i feel what u sayin Boss Playa


man, my uncle passed away earlier this year, and that really hit home, man im scared of death, im freaked man, when i see Palestinians die, Afghans die, even watching the Daniel Pearl tape, that shit keeps me up at night sometimes.........
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: BossPlaya on May 26, 2002, 11:46:31 AM
i've never seen a dead body in my life n i hope i never do im really afraid of death cuz i dunno watz gonna happen after i die n tha last couple of weekz ive taught about it alot b4 i go 2 sleep i really hope i don't die young cuz im only 15 n i hope i live till im like 60 n over  ;D but fo reals im really afraid of death
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: infinite59 on May 26, 2002, 02:46:00 PM
95% of all species that have lived on this Earth are now dead.  Billions and billions of humans have lived on this earth and look what happened to them.  Bill Gates, could make a million dollars a second it means nothing, he too will die.  Hercules could be the strongest man in the world, big deal he will die.  Muhammad and Jesus, Malcolm and Moses all dead.  You can not escape death.  If you think you can escape death then you will find out the real truth soon enough.  I honestly have no fear of death, I live everyday the same way, good things come to me, and bad things come to me, but nature has a history of destroying and recreating itself, and I to will be destroyed.  Peace.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: VLADA on May 27, 2002, 12:14:12 PM
nah playaz,

you live one life, but if you live it right, once is enough
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on May 30, 2002, 07:50:34 AM
To be honest death is my only real fear, I have a fear of what will happen after mostly. Sometimes when i'm lying in bed at night and I can't sleep thats all I think about, not just about my death though but about members of my family, older members in particular - I think that if things go naturally I will witness their deaths and feel their loss which is a horrible thought and I hate thinking like that but sometimes I can't help it. I just hope when I eventually do go that it will be as painless and as quick as possible.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: MidnightPills on May 30, 2002, 02:53:00 PM
All I know about death is that it hurts the people around you. They have to suffer the pain of not having to see there loved one again. I honestly am not ready to die. I want to live my life and grow old before i pass on.

:D
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: 4 KiN L on June 03, 2002, 06:25:46 AM
My view on this is, that once u die, theres nothing, u never know it, because ur ded and thats it, i dunno if that makes sense to u all.

but there is a reason for dying, so that others can learn from ur life, and so that u can help others live in more than 1 way, one way is that species such as various bugs feed on dead organisms, so by your death, u keep others living, just like when anything else dies, it gets eaten. cos cremation isn't all that old, and it's nature to die.

i hope that makes sense to u, and plz don't be hatin or nothin, just like u think there could be heaven or hell, for the same reasons u believe that, i believe that once u die, nothing becomes of it in a later life or nothin, that it, ur ded and thats that.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on June 03, 2002, 06:58:35 AM
^^ Actually, I think that's impossible.  Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since your soul is energy, it must either continue or change into something else.  It's impossible to just cease.  That's just my opinion though.  
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: 4 KiN L on June 03, 2002, 11:43:57 AM
^^but my opinion is that once ur life is gone u have no soul, see what i mean? u believe the soul still lives, i believe it goes with ur life. and thats just my opinion, non of them can ever be proved to a living man anyway...so i don't wanna argue the toss about this.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: infinite59 on June 03, 2002, 11:51:15 AM
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My view on this is, that once u die, theres nothing, u never know it, because ur ded and thats it, i dunno if that makes sense to u all.

but there is a reason for dying, so that others can learn from ur life, and so that u can help others live in more than 1 way, one way is that species such as various bugs feed on dead organisms, so by your death, u keep others living, just like when anything else dies, it gets eaten. cos cremation isn't all that old, and it's nature to die.

i hope that makes sense to u, and plz don't be hatin or nothin, just like u think there could be heaven or hell, for the same reasons u believe that, i believe that once u die, nothing becomes of it in a later life or nothin, that it, ur ded and thats that.


Yo... that's exactly what I would of said two years ago.  That's the way most unapologizing atheists would answer this question.  If I hadn't of been pushed so far in the direction I was headed I'd still be right there with you.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: 4 KiN L on June 03, 2002, 12:06:23 PM
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Yo... that's exactly what I would of said two years ago.  That's the way most unapologizing atheists would answer this question.  If I hadn't of been pushed so far in the direction I was headed I'd still be right there with you.

what duz that mean? that u can't respect what i believe? fuck i respect what any religious person believes cos they have valid points, so why u gotta be like that about it??
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: infinite59 on June 03, 2002, 12:15:04 PM
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what duz that mean? that u can't respect what i believe? fuck i respect what any religious person believes cos they have valid points, so why u gotta be like that about it??


How did you get disrespect out of my reply?  It was nothing but admiration.  I thought it was ill that someone thinks the way I used to.  I was giving you props dogg.  It's like if I used to have a nice pair of Jordan's and then I saw someone wearing them and I said, "Yo, those shoe's are tight homeboy, but now I got this different pair."
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: 4 KiN L on June 03, 2002, 12:18:33 PM
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How did you get disrespect out of my reply?  It was nothing but admiration.  I thought it was ill that someone thinks the way I used to.  I was giving you props dogg.  It's like if I used to have a nice pair of Jordan's and then I saw someone wearing them and I said, "Yo, those shoe's are tight homeboy, but now I got this different pair."

oh sorry, i thought u wuz just takin the piss mate, sorry about that it was my fault!
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on June 04, 2002, 03:47:21 AM
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^^but my opinion is that once ur life is gone u have no soul, see what i mean? u believe the soul still lives, i believe it goes with ur life. and thats just my opinion, non of them can ever be proved to a living man anyway...so i don't wanna argue the toss about this.


Oh, I know, that's your belief, but what I was sayin' is, that the brain, and the body operates on electricity.  Since electricity (energy) can't be destroyed, it must go on after you die.  
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: bLaDe on June 04, 2002, 09:50:09 AM
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^^ Actually, I think that's impossible.  Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since your soul is energy, it must either continue or change into something else.  It's impossible to just cease.  That's just my opinion though.  



Word, if we do have a soul that can be true, but i think 4 kin l doesnt believe in a soul, so taking that into account, then we just "die" lol, there is truely noting after that.....
Me, as i said b4, i believe in reincarnation...

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on June 04, 2002, 09:51:38 AM
Yea, but even if you don't believe in a soul, like  I said, scientists have proven that the body works off of electricity.  
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: DreSnoop00 on June 04, 2002, 11:17:13 PM
i kinda got the same thoughts as doggy
I've tought about death, its just weird on how u think whats goin to happen next, it just came to my mind a couple times and it just puzzles me on what really is next
i just wanna imagine on how the afterlife is like sometimes. how heaven or hell is
how good or how bad it could be.
but i'ma try to live life to the fullest, try to be happy, and make the best outta things so when u RIP in the future, ur life can as complete as u made it
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: ToNe1904 on June 05, 2002, 01:43:52 AM
yah i cant say im afraid of what comes after death. I mean, theres enough to worry about here everyday. None of us truly knows what happens after death. So what would be the point in worrying about it now? When i die, i just want to die quick. No dying from some disease that would eat away at me for years, causing me to be weak, insane, or in great pain. But seeing as how the only way to chose yur own method of dying, is suicide...then its not up to me HOW i die. It is up to me HOW i live. So ill worry about that instead.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: 4 KiN L on June 05, 2002, 01:45:24 AM
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Oh, I know, that's your belief, but what I was sayin' is, that the brain, and the body operates on electricity.  Since electricity (energy) can't be destroyed, it must go on after you die.  

Scientists proved that the body works off 'energy' and we can produce waste energy of static lecky, but static plays no part in working the body. The energy we live off is used up by the cells, hence the reason we need to eat to produce more energy. therefore the energy within us can be destroyed, cos when we're dead and the parts of the body can't produce us any more energy we therefore have no energy left.

yes blade i do believe in the soul, but go by the idea of 'a living soul within u' that being that my body and mind is my soul, so when i die...me the soul is dead. see what i mean?

u gotta admit that i have a valid point just as much as u Darth Trauma.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: fiyagurl on June 05, 2002, 09:15:38 AM
If you really think about it and you think about it to much it gonna scared you for one? I know I think about it alot and you scared of what's gon happed when you do die. Heaven or Hell? Afterlife is you gon come back in life as someone else? Angels, pearl gates or fire, devils, burn soul for life? Really don't worry yourself about it. I think when you bout to die I think  you will know it.
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: BossPlaya on June 14, 2002, 07:50:17 PM
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>= link=board=thehall;num=1022393065;start=0#10 date=05/30/02 at 12:50:34]To be honest death is my only real fear, I have a fear of what will happen after mostly. Sometimes when i'm lying in bed at night and I can't sleep thats all I think about, not just about my death though but about members of my family, older members in particular - I think that if things go naturally I will witness their deaths and feel their loss which is a horrible thought and I hate thinking like that but sometimes I can't help it. I just hope when I eventually do go that it will be as painless and as quick as possible.


thats exactly how i feel i would never want n e of my family members 2 die before me cuz that would hurt so fuckin much
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: Big BpG on June 15, 2002, 08:17:13 AM
Well I don't believe in a religion... and I believe that energy is our creator and that energy can't be created or destroyed, so since we are made of energy we will transform to another form... but what i find interesting is that, we all have different ways to die... ie. Trauma goes to Heaven, Blade is Reincarnated as a salamander... but I believe that there is only one way to die... and I think we all know that when we die something will happen... whether its heaven or hell... we will finally find the truth of what happens after death... some of us might be right, some of us might be wrong... or maybe death is something we can't even imagine because it's too big for us....but I believe we will all expierence the same DEATH... we will all expierence the same feeling, and we will all end up where we do... that's what scares me... I can't picture myself living without my family... and when we die... will we be together? will we not?  

I'm scared of death because none of us really knows what happens, we just believe what could happen, but no one really knows... so its just speculation... we will all find out one day.

-Big BpG
Title: Re: DEATH!!!!!!
Post by: 4 KiN L on June 17, 2002, 06:58:50 AM
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Well I don't believe in a religion... and I believe that energy is our creator and that energy can't be created or destroyed, so since we are made of energy we will transform to another form...

but scientifically energy can be created, and can be destroyed.