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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: infinite59 on May 27, 2002, 08:52:46 PM
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I will start keeping one discussion sticky, every week for this forum. If ya'll want to start the topic for next week then just give me a personal message and I'll pick the best one.
My thoughts on the drugs, and the war on drugs is this. America is a drug culture. We are raising kids to do drugs. It's not the kids, or peer pressure, or music that is causing kids to use drugs. It is when kids find out that their parents, congressmen, and even our president have all done some shit, that's when we automatically think it is okay.
And the war on drugs is bullshit. It is getting us no where. My only suggestion is that adults stop acting like kids and start acting like adults. Put down the Sony Playstation, the pool stick at the bar you hang out at every night, and get rid of that mistress bitch you sleep around with on the side, and start learning something so you can teach your kids and be a good role model.
I don't mind a few kids using drugs. But it is these adults that never grow out of their baby stages of "feed me, fuck me, give me attention." Adults need to be past those stages by age 23 so they can be active participants in the growth of not only there own kids, but all kids in their community, because everybody should take part in the development of youths.
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Nice topic, keep it vague so even the crackheads can have something to say: Here's my ten cents, my two cents is free. Who sent? You sent for me?.....(aight, enough of that)
I'm a rifle-bearing Islamic militant selfishly misplacing the blame for personal roadblocks squarely on the forehead of our governemnt of freemason's.
Who is to blame for America's drug problem? Is it me? Is it you? It's Ronald Reagan. All the worlds problems, you can blame the irretrievably white-bergiouse minded Ronald Reagan.
After decades of Cold War distortion and hypocrisy had almost wiped away the countries devastating historical memory. Ronald Reagan gave the underclass, the Brute Power Force, the female Amazon, the Supermasculine Menials, yet another roadblock to beat their stick against.
It was Ronald Reagan that cut off afterschool programs. It was Ronald Reagen who initiated the War on Drugs. Which saw poor working class menials recieving harsher sentences for drug crimes, an example of this would be a minimum of 5 years in prison for crack cocaine. While his white peers in congress can consume as much powder cocaine as they like, and recieve slaps on the wrist.
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will a mod please step in an delete all these bull shit post. Back to tha topic at hand. My highschool has one of tha worst drug problems on Long island. Look on tha map its that lil island stickin off of NY. It only half of tha island cuz tha other half is queens an brooklyn which is part of NYC. But when u think of how many high schools r in that area, that pretty sad. Kids do drugs for many different reasons. To be popular, take them away from tha pain of there lives, or jus cuz they have nutin better to do. Thats tha reason why drug use is so high where i live. Its tha suburbs, there is nutin better 2 do. Tha parents r too affraid to step in an take action. Tha school's shoove it down out throats about how bad it is, if tha place we hate more is shoving it down our throats not 2 do it, most teens r goin do tha oppisite. Another reason why drugs r such a problem is b/c some parents r so affraid to admit there child is on drugs, they still look at them as perfect angel's. In my school i cant tell you one person that does not drink or do drugs, there out there but there tha minority now. There this new drug every1 doing, tha crush horse traqulizars an snort them
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see the thing is, i smoke a lil weed
i aint perfect, and i dont do shit like ecstacy, acid, shrooms, crack, herion, lsd, methaphetamines etc
i smoke a lil weed on the weekends, when i go out,
yeah i shouldnt but for me its purely social, i enjoy being high temporarily, its not a stress thing, peer pressure thing, i just simply like being high when i go out
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Fuck drugs... tha legal an tha illegal ones! all of 'em fuck up ya body an ya brain... keep it clean...
Peace1!
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Yeah word, about the parents thing....Parents play a huge role in drugs, but these days most parents dont really care dat much about their children and like you said, they dont behave like adults. And it doesnt really help when a drunken/crackheaded parent tells his kid not to follow in his footsteps and shit. Parents are no longer role models these days, I mean, ask any kid, they dont wanna end up like their parents, most of them dont even respect em. If the kids had sum respect n shit for their parents, they would actually lisn to what they had to say about drugs, and other things.
What better place to pick up drugs than skool? Kids discriminating against other kids, half of the ppl aint there to study anyway. The weak minded get manuplated and take drugs as sumtin to escape tha hate.....be popular, or erase tha pain, like tom said.....Most kids dont know everything about drugs, maby if they did they wouldnt, but many will still do it.
Another thing, prove to me Weed is more dangerious than alcohol....I mean, if weed is illegal, why aint Alcohol. I aint supporting both of them, im just trying to figure this out, theres a lot more car crashed due to alcohol abuse, alcohol causes cancer, n all dat kinda shit. Maby i dont know much about the subject....but its insane if alcohol is legal and not weed. Oh yeah, dont do none of that kids lol.
Theres no real "miracle" solution for the drug problem. Perhaps if kids were properly educated about it, and if the "peer pressure" shit, and discrimination against our own kind is eradicated, the drug problem will slowly go down a bit. Shit, we aint evolving, atleast i feel that way, i mean kids r stupider at skool, and way to immature. Most adults are not really "mentally" grown up either.....I dunno, we need to be more serious, concious, strong and mature.....
my 2 cents....
P.S- if anyones wondering, i deleted the bullshit posts, they were not neccessary....
-{bLaDe}
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i got 2 words........ECONOMICS and MONEY........
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see the thing is, i smoke a lil weed
i aint perfect, and i dont do shit like ecstacy, acid, shrooms, crack, herion, lsd, methaphetamines etc
i smoke a lil weed on the weekends, when i go out,
yeah i shouldnt but for me its purely social, i enjoy being high temporarily, its not a stress thing, peer pressure thing, i just simply like being high when i go out
Word.....same way wit me man.....
I neva ABUSE.....Once in a while I'll participate, Neva PlayaHate.....lol
And word on wat Tom said.....Like everyone out here smokes weed and drinks as a minimum......
Even tha real smart Chinese people at my skool be gettin their lil drink on or whatever at parties that has me goin whaaa? etc......
The point of my 2 cents is that using a lil 4 pleasure is yur choice, no harm if u know tha boundaries IMO.......
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WHO DO THE DRUGZ....(inside joke between me n Tech.)
any ways ...drugs s realy bad for you...and whoever's doin' it should stop......cause in my case i didn't listen to anyone and thought it was alright ....but learned the hard way.....and trust me...none of you wanna learn the way i did.....
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i cannot describe this properly but when it comes to me doing drugs I would always talk bad about it and say drugs & alchocol do this and do that and bla bla bla.
BUT, if it comes down to someone else doing it i really do not care. I just feel that ALL the information is out there. You smoke u can potentially catch cancer and die. You take drugs it can result in complications and you die. You take drugs over long periods of time your phyisical condition will erode and you will die.
I mean EVERYONE knows this. So basically if they choose to do drugs they are ignorant and come on, ya'll know that the worst conversationist are ignorant people. You can't get shit across to them simply a waste of breath to try.
However, when some1 offers me shit i take them to school on issues why I SHOULD NOT do drugs. However anyone else i feel its not my responsibility.
I will occasionaly drink up when i got my boyz from overseas coming down or some1 is having a special occasion. But i stay away from any official 'drugs'.
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Word.....same way wit me man.....
I neva ABUSE.....Once in a while I'll participate, Neva PlayaHate.....lol
And word on wat Tom said.....Like everyone out here smokes weed and drinks as a minimum......
Even tha real smart Chinese people at my skool be gettin their lil drink on or whatever at parties that has me goin whaaa? etc......
The point of my 2 cents is that using a lil 4 pleasure is yur choice, no harm if u know tha boundaries IMO.......
^^ If ya know when to stop... LOL ... i know that alcoholic drinks are drugs, even coffee is a drug... if u become addicted youll have a bad time to quit...
i'm not sayin' u shouldnt drink alcohol... I apreciate champagne an other alcoholic drinks(beer, hennessey, armagnac an all that...) but u gotta know when u reached tha reasonable limit...
when it comes to weed ... well to me it's like if you're smokin a cuban (the originals!) cigar... just as long as u dont get addicted...
Peace1!
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net gangsta msgs nino: sup CUz wuss craccen
mistanino: wanna get high *nino passes tha cyberslops*
mistanino: <toke toke toke that shit>
net gangsta msgs nino: g'eeeah man i feel blazed
pz CuZ BerliN RolLin DeuCeS
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My view on drugs is:
make them legal, i don't do drugs but if they were legal it would be better for everyone, for these reasons:
1. if they were legal they would be cheaper, therefore there would be less burglaries and muggings and theft, cos that's mostly druggies in need of money.
2. there would be less dealers, cos it wouldn't bring them as much cash, so more ppl would get real jobs.
3. if they were legal it wudn't be as much a buz for teenagers to have them, cos they would be nothing special.
4. crime figures go down, cos theres less theft, less benefit fraud for the so called unemployed (drug dealers), no crime for possession or supply, less convicts!
look at it how u want but my uncle explained a lot more than this years ago when we were talkin about this kinda thing...if drugs were legal it would be betta for everyone, same as smoking...if u didn't wanna take drugs u wudn't have to, so if they were legal it wouldn't do no real harm.
but then u cud say it would cost more on the nhs for drug treatment, well the government could charge tax on drugs and that kinda shit would be paid for.
more deaths: like smoking, it would be their own fault, and the population would go down, so that's another good thing!
but 1 thing, drugs like smack shud stay illegal, hooked after 1 jab, that would be no good cos whoever had the nerve to try that shit wud be an addict straight away.
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The way I see it, it's everyone's responsibility to choose whether they want to do drugs or not. Drugs are real easy to get, so if you want them, go for it.
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Parents no doubt play a big part, but on the other hand i learned a whole lot about what drugs were and what they were about long before i ever had a discussion with my family about it... i chose to avoid them on my own, because i'd seen how they messed up some of my friends... there wasn't a whole lot to do where i grew up, but heading to the local court to play some b-ball, playing some SNES or listening to some tunes was always a better option than doing drugs... besides, that money i could've spent on weed etc worked much better on cds ;D
On another note, the "War On Drugs" is nonsense. Wars end, this is a never ending spiral of bullshit. Does anyone else find those "Your Drug Money Funded Terrorism" commercials amazingly lame?
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^^ Nope. I think it's a pretty good point, since it's true, and all.
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I have alwayz wondered if alcohol is legal, then why isnt weed legal!! I mean shit....like peeps have already said here...alcohol has caused alot more deaths than weed has!! Deaths in car wrecks, kidney diseases, lung cancer etc., when have u heard on tha news or anywhere that someone died from smokin weed!! Never!! U will never hear of a person to die of smokin weed unless it is laced wit some potent shit that will kill you!!
Shit....just to prove my point bout how alcohol is alot more dangerous then weed.....go get blazed one night and go driving and then tha next night get drunk and then go driving, u will be driving bout 30 over tha speed limit when u drunk and not giving a fuck if u have a wreck or not!! But when u high u gonna concentrate like a mutha fucka!! U gonna make sure u dont wreck!! Same thing wit bein drunk and walkin a straight line!! Try that shit bein high! Snoop and a bunch of celebrities that smoke weed have been tryin fo a long time to prove this but theres no point cuz no1 is ever gonna make weed legal!! As much as it needs to be legal it will prolly never happen!!
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^^ Nope. I think it's a pretty good point, since it's true, and all.
For all the American government knows about the terrorists they're trying to find, buying a Pepsi could be funding them... if you're buying weed from the cat down the street the odds of your money funding terrorism are about the same as the odds on that Pepsi.
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Do you like just saying things without thinking about them, or something? LOL
No, pepsi is owned by a corporation. The stockholders, eventually, get the money.
If you buy weed, guess what? You bought it from a dealer, who bought it from someone else, who bought it from someone else, who eventually probably, more than likely, bought it outside of the u.s. Who knows who the dealers connection that made and grew the stuff associates with. So, buying from a drug dealer, you may have supported terrorism.
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I kinda got a lot to say so read if u want lol:
parents, i'm also saying this, a lot of them just seem notto worry anymore, there are more drugs, more alcohol that a teenager or anyone else could obtain a hold of....easily
I personally have tried alcohol, i've had it with friends, i have some at home, I've tried a lot of different kinds, i won't deny that. Weed or drugs in general, i've never tried, nor do I tend to. I probably will drink later on, but I'm sure I can control that. lol Right now a lot of parents think so much of their kids that they wouldn't expect them to do drugs, well the thing is some of them do, and the parents dont KNOW
Of course which teenager would come out and say "i do drugs mom", no one or hardly any, but still a parent should be a little limore aware of their childs life. So many people are doing drugs and drinking alcohol these days. A lot of my friends have done or still do drugs as of now.
All drugs can be dangerous and deadly. Same with alcohol. You all have seen so many acciddents. It sux. I think drugs are something dumb to do, but hey people have their reasons, and u kno i have friends that do drugs but i still respect them
I cannot control a person on what they do, I'm goign to have to say i'm cool with those people, i'm friends with some of those people, but I'm not going to join them to do drugs
As for how dangerous drugs/alcohol is....
Weed is bad lol, obviously.. Well one way i think of it more dangerous of alcohol is this,
An Example: alcohol, your liver can take a certain amoutn per hour, you drink too much, it could fuck it up. u can get cancer anything, but lets say a drink. not bad... lol, but it'll get away from your system i'd say in an hour if it was only ONE drink in one hour. Weed, well it fucks up your brain cells, kills sperm cells, blah blah, but the thing is it stays in your system like 30-90 days, and what a lot of people don't know is that all that shit is still happening to you thorugh out those 30-90 days. Suppse you smoke weed, and 15 days later, u smoke some more, well u just restart that whole 30-90 day thing.
Another thing I heard was that apparently they are putting nicotine in weed, making it more addictive. I see what you are all saying about weed being illegal and alcohol not. well those were some reasons^^^^, but still alcohol kills many and that sux. I'm going to try to never do drugs, but alcohol, i'll be drinking... but not too much and I'll make sure i come up with something before I get drunk lol
If you wanan do drugs and alcohol, seriously go ahead, i cant stop u, its your choice, but some of you can control it and make sure you dont take too much which is good.. (if ur taking drugs lol)..drugs is kinda like a gamble to me... u take too much and someday it'll be over.
I know people who are deep, cool, but smoke, but they are still a good person, thats definitley possible. I don't mind too much people doing drugs that much, its just that the people who do drugs pass it on to sober people and thats how it spreads out.
Anyway, thats how i see it
Peace
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I have alwayz wondered if alcohol is legal, then why isnt weed legal!! I mean shit....like peeps have already said here...alcohol has caused alot more deaths than weed has!! Deaths in car wrecks, kidney diseases, lung cancer etc., when have u heard on tha news or anywhere that someone died from smokin weed!! Never!! U will never hear of a person to die of smokin weed unless it is laced wit some potent shit that will kill you!!
Shit....just to prove my point bout how alcohol is alot more dangerous then weed.....go get blazed one night and go driving and then tha next night get drunk and then go driving, u will be driving bout 30 over tha speed limit when u drunk and not giving a fuck if u have a wreck or not!! But when u high u gonna concentrate like a mutha fucka!! U gonna make sure u dont wreck!! Same thing wit bein drunk and walkin a straight line!! Try that shit bein high! Snoop and a bunch of celebrities that smoke weed have been tryin fo a long time to prove this but theres no point cuz no1 is ever gonna make weed legal!! As much as it needs to be legal it will prolly never happen!!
but u only want it to be legal cos u happen to smoke weed, it shudn't be like that. but the thing is, if they can legalise one class b drug (or is it c now?) then there will b a lot of contraversy caused by the people who take other drugs in it's class that they won't legalise, unless they do what sed and make all drugs legal, then just legalising one would cause too many problems. and u ppl gotta realise that if they do make it legal then there will be no more gettin high with ur mates then driving home, or chillin in ur ride smokin a blunt, cos they will stop u from driving whilst 'under the influence' of the weed, so even if it was legal maybe it wudn't be as much of a buzz for u any more anyways. u prolly never even thought of half the thingz i just sed...
but even if it is still illegal it never stopped me from smokin it! ;D
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It's a new week, time for a new issue.
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Alright, i have done my share of drugs in life, I smoke weed, have taken lsd, ecstacy, speed, as well as smoking crystall meth and some other shit like chinese herbal speeds and inhaling Nitros Oxide (NOS). I made a concious effort to stop the abuse on my body and more importantly my mind at the begining of this year and have managed to stop most of this drug use, I still smoke weed on a daily basis and have the ocasonal hit of nos or smoke a bit of meth but have left all the rest behind, My opinion on drugs is they are not totally evil as long as
1. you ain't taking them to escape the trouble in your life cause while thing may seem better while your high the things you feel when your high arn't real, There the effects of the drugs and the real world your trying to escape is going to seem worse when you come back to it
2. You can say no and aint doing shit too often and letting the drugs get in the way of commitments to your family or youself, If you get this way you should stop the drugs, If you can't d0o it yourself get help from others, Tell your freinds or family you need help and anyone who ain't willling to help you get clean ain't worth knowing.
It ain't no use telling people not to do them cause we all know that people do what there not suppose to, Tell a young boy not to watch the porn channel and you can bet he will and that the fact you have told him not will make it more tempting to watch cause he wants to know what is so bad about is for himself, It's time to educate people on how to avoid becoming dependent on drugs, The truth is if drugs were legalised the drug dealers would soon be out of business, Who wants to go to a dealer were there not sure whatv has gone into their drugs (Speed, Acid, Crystal Mrth and Ecstacy all get made and cut with differet things depending on who makes them)when they can go to the shop and know what they are buying. This would illiminate the cause of many crimes and lower the jail population, And wether that happens or not the punishment of drug users needs to stop, Don't put them in jail were they feel worse and turn to using more drugs to escapoe reality, Put them in rehab and help them beat their addictions.
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Nice topic, keep it vague so even the crackheads can have something to say: Here's my ten cents, my two cents is free. Who sent? You sent for me?.....(aight, enough of that)
I'm a rifle-bearing Islamic militant selfishly misplacing the blame for personal roadblocks squarely on the forehead of our governemnt of freemason's.
Who is to blame for America's drug problem? Is it me? Is it you? It's Ronald Reagan. All the worlds problems, you can blame the irretrievably white-bergiouse minded Ronald Reagan.
After decades of Cold War distortion and hypocrisy had almost wiped away the countries devastating historical memory. Ronald Reagan gave the underclass, the Brute Power Force, the female Amazon, the Supermasculine Menials, yet another roadblock to beat their stick against.
It was Ronald Reagan that cut off afterschool programs. It was Ronald Reagen who initiated the War on Drugs. Which saw poor working class menials recieving harsher sentences for drug crimes, an example of this would be a minimum of 5 years in prison for crack cocaine. While his white peers in congress can consume as much powder cocaine as they like, and recieve slaps on the wrist.
LMAO...you really didnt havea life back then did U infinite?
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If you buy weed, guess what? You bought it from a dealer, who bought it from someone else, who bought it from someone else, who eventually probably, more than likely, bought it outside of the u.s. Who knows who the dealers connection that made and grew the stuff associates with. So, buying from a drug dealer, you may have supported terrorism.
Thats not true, lol, like 95% of the weed in the US is grown IN THE US...LOL I fuckin hate that terrorism:drugs connection adn that advertisement...I was gunna buy this shirt with a weed leaf and the text sayin "I helped fund International terrorism" ;D cuz god that ad pissed me off so much.
And why is weed illegal n not alkahol? I wonder why teh US is so anti-marijuana....maybe its against our image, like we gotta be the highly productive stimulant addicted group of ppl who got no time to lay back and decrease productivity of da generla populace by making marijuana lega, n therefore moer popular...but like tha Jamal dude said it its all economics n money
good thread btw infinite