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Title: FUCK organized religion
Post by: bhanghee on February 11, 2004, 03:05:43 PM
Seriously, do you guys see the point of it?? All it creates is hate among groups of people for no real reason. ALso, to the ppl that believe that their religion is the ABSOLUT TRUTH...i laugh at u. EVERY religion has something that crosses it off as being complteely logical. THE EARTH WAS CREATED IN MORE THAN 7 DAYS...THERE CANT BE A GOD WITH AN ELEPHANT AND 4 ARMS...JESUS DID NOT COME BACK FROM THE DEAD... OK so if Christianity is the truth, why didnt anyone hear about this shit before? Why did ancient men worship things like the Sun God, the Tree God, and the Lake God?? Men just need to feel there is something more than the present world. I think religion is still cool for its values, and the fact it does keep ppl in check, but still its also one thing that limits you from doing things that you want. And religions change with time too- so how can yall claim one religion is alsolutely true? pz 8)
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Trauma-san on February 11, 2004, 04:30:59 PM
Do what you want Peace~
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: white Boy on February 11, 2004, 06:44:11 PM
you make SOME ok point, i also dislike organized for its bad things, like wars for religion, and general deaths for religion, or missionaries forcing religon on the less educated people... but as i figure people need religion, throughout the history of the world, man has seeked a need for a higher power, so u cant blame people, people cant accept the fact that there is nothing, or theres no heaven or that death is IT, i cant belive in religion, i belive in science too much
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Don Breezio on February 11, 2004, 07:21:49 PM
im glad im not the only one who feels that way. organized religion is fuckin bullshit...i hate hearing these things:

if you dont go to church you will go to hell: fuck you...if i go to church i feel like im already in hell...i dont need to go kiss gods ass once a week.

if you kill somebody you're automatically going to hell nomatter what: bullshit. if god didnt have any possible means of justification for things like self defense, etc...then he wouldnt've given us the ability in the first place.

i cant stand bible thumpers either...the people who feel they need to advertise for god...seriously since when the fuck does god need publicity? stupid fucks. take those fuckin WWJD bracelets off you assholes.

whew...sorry guys but bible thumpers really piss me off lol
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Lincoln on February 11, 2004, 07:36:50 PM
Seriously, do you guys see the point of it?? All it creates is hate among groups of people for no real reason. ALso, to the ppl that believe that their religion is the ABSOLUT TRUTH...i laugh at u. EVERY religion has something that crosses it off as being complteely logical. THE EARTH WAS CREATED IN MORE THAN 7 DAYS...THERE CANT BE A GOD WITH AN ELEPHANT AND 4 ARMS...JESUS DID NOT COME BACK FROM THE DEAD... OK so if Christianity is the truth, why didnt anyone hear about this shit before? Why did ancient men worship things like the Sun God, the Tree God, and the Lake God?? Men just need to feel there is something more than the present world. I think religion is still cool for its values, and the fact it does keep ppl in check, but still its also one thing that limits you from doing things that you want. And religions change with time too- so how can yall claim one religion is alsolutely true? pz 8)

Regarding the Earth being created in 7 days.........Who said that they were 24 Hour days?
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Eazy-E RuthlessG on February 11, 2004, 07:59:04 PM
omg its people like you who will be in hell if your not saved damn i wish i could help these people all these people are being controlled by cults so im outta here
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: white Boy on February 11, 2004, 08:12:06 PM
good point lincon, if god created the world in 7 days.... i dont how to say it but just, Time is MAnmade.... so...
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 11, 2004, 08:14:32 PM
Lol....poor kid
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Eazy-E RuthlessG on February 11, 2004, 08:19:23 PM
omg u fuckin idoits God could do anything he wants he has the power he could create the world in the blink of an eye so he could do it in 7 days like he fed alot of people with only a peice of bread and after they were done eating they were fool and there was leftovers can u see the power of Jesus
PRAISE THE LORD
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: infinite59 on February 11, 2004, 08:54:25 PM
Seriously, do you guys see the point of it?? All it creates is hate among groups of people for no real reason. ALso, to the ppl that believe that their religion is the ABSOLUT TRUTH...i laugh at u. EVERY religion has something that crosses it off as being complteely logical.

The point is that we are not placed here on Earth to eat, sleep, make money, and have sex.  We have a greater purpose to worship Allah and to obey what he has commanded upon us.  You were born Muslim; in submission to Allah's will.  Society made you other than Muslim.  Society made you to believe there is no absolute truth.

OK so if Christianity is the truth, why didnt anyone hear about this shit before? Why did ancient men worship things like the Sun God, the Tree God, and the Lake God??

Islam is the truth.  Those who worshipped the Sun God, Tree God, and Lake God were in manifest error.  Since the days of the first man; Adam, the prophets have been sent throughout time, to all nations and tribes, to warn them about the practice of worshipping false idols.  To guide them to the straight path of monotheism (worshipping one God), and attributing no partners to our glorious Creator.

Men just need to feel there is something more than the present world. I think religion is still cool for its values, and the fact it does keep ppl in check, but still its also one thing that limits you from doing things that you want. And religions change with time too- so how can yall claim one religion is alsolutely true? pz 8)

Man has a natural inclination to do what is right and pleasing to Allah.  Islam, as a community supports man in his natural inclination to worship the most high, the supreme being, Allah.
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Eazy-E RuthlessG on February 11, 2004, 10:00:06 PM
supreme fag is who ur talking bout allah is fake and the Devil tricking you and u will be decieved by him
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Doggystylin on February 11, 2004, 11:19:21 PM
al capone, get your childish ass outta here, your not worthy of being around an adult conversation. you obviously are a young buck who knows jack shit, you need to get out into the real world and learn a lot of things. you'll get straight clowned for talkin like this outside of the net. and im not just talkin about this thread
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Soul_On_Ice on February 11, 2004, 11:48:35 PM
QUAKE, to answer your question, religion has no proof. There is no real way to prove that any of the things believed in ones religion is true. There is no proof that there is a god. That's why people BELIEVE in religion, and it is up to each individual to believe in what they feel is right. It's a choice someone can make. Just like let's say for instance you go to India Sweets & Spices, and your friend gets the tandoori chicken and you get the rice. Does it necessarily mean that what your friend got tastes better, or what you got tastes better? No. It's subjective, and depends on what you feel is better. Indian food was a bad example, it all smells like shit, but you get the idea.
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: PhantomChild on February 20, 2004, 06:01:03 PM
omg its people like you who will be in hell if your not saved damn i wish i could help these people all these people are being controlled by cults so im outta here

Cults!?Man get the fuck outta here with that shit!I ain't controlled by no
fucking cult! >:( >:(
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Cold187umKilla on February 21, 2004, 09:59:07 AM
omg its people like you who will be in hell if your not saved damn i wish i could help these people all these people are being controlled by cults so im outta here

Cults!?Man get the fuck outta here with that shit!I ain't controlled by no
fucking cult! >:( >:(
it doesnt necessarily mean u have to be with a group of people u dont get what hes sayin
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: PhantomChild on February 21, 2004, 07:55:02 PM
omg its people like you who will be in hell if your not saved damn i wish i could help these people all these people are being controlled by cults so im outta here

Cults!?Man get the fuck outta here with that shit!I ain't controlled by no
fucking cult! >:( >:(
it doesnt necessarily mean u have to be with a group of people u dont get what hes sayin

But still though........... ;)
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: TiNmaN on February 22, 2004, 12:57:44 PM
I dont know about some organized religionz but i got respect for all of em even tho i dont agree w/ somez viewz. But fuk devil worshiperz, anyway.....i dont care what anybody sayz, i stand for christiany n jezuz christ on anyday, that ell never change. Jesus haz done way to much for me in the past 1 year that itz totally unexplainable to u guyz but i know it was him that helped, along w/ my deceased dad, get thru what i waz goin thru n it coulda been anyway else but them jus cuz the way shit went down. N thatz not brainwash talk from no preacher at a chruch, thats REAL ass shit. jesus lives n he will be bak, yall see...........
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: white Boy on February 22, 2004, 03:05:23 PM
whats supposed to happen when jesus comes back? and why would he come back? wat he will fix the world, or... i cant live my life prasing someone or wating for someone, i cant be held down by religion, i just have enough morals to not steal, kill, lie..., i dont need religion to tell me not to do that, when they are all fuckin hipocrits, and you know they are
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: We Fly High on February 22, 2004, 04:54:28 PM
mnan i used to be christian.. like i was born and raised ina  christian family, go to church f or like over 10 years... but man one day i just realized that it wasnt for me..

i figure first of all organized religion isnt really cool.. religion should be an individual experience, and when you put religion into the context of a mass crowd, shit changes. like "group think" theory... when ur in a crowd with a bunch of other people believing something, its much easier for you to believe in it too..and i believ eu can have "individual expereinces" and worship not just at church, but anywhere...

and 2nd of all.. theres just been too much shit in our history and past, that we can even choose one religion... so now my motto is : man if you're trying to do good for yourself and trying to enrich the lives of other people, and as long as ur trying ur best to lead a straight life, that you will go to "heaven"..

and 3rd of all.. theres been too much corruption in our authorities like presidents, and all that catholic bishop controversy, that i find it hard to even place belief and trust into anyone other than myself...much less a person i dont even know personally..
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: infinite59 on February 23, 2004, 07:23:10 AM
As a collective whole you can actualize events on a scale you could never imagine as an individual.  When the first great civilization united in Egypt under the direction of the Pharoah; because of thier unrestrained passion for the afterlife and unified cohesiveness they were able to make a history that is still astonishing to us over 4,000 years later.  

Imagine being a teenage boy on a farm when one day the Pharoah requests your services.  You are picked up and taken to the center of Egypt and you spend a year biulding these pyramids.  After your year of service is completed you are released back to your village; but you will never forget that experience for as long as you live.  The experience was much greater and larger than anything you could have accomplished yourself.  You were a part of a collective whole, the sum is larger than it's individual parts.

At our most powerless moments, we reach out for a higher power.  Something that is beyond us, but at the same time, within us.  A sense of wholeness that we have never known but always felt we were entitled to.  We were placed on this Earth to worship Allah and to glorify his name.
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Don Rizzle on February 23, 2004, 07:56:25 AM
when u said organised religion i was expecting to hear about the vatican and how currupt they r
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on February 23, 2004, 12:29:27 PM
We were placed on this Earth to worship Allah and to glorify his name.

I've said it before and now I do it again. Someone who DESIRES you to worship him,is not worshippable at all.
And if the meaning of Allah was to let the whole world worship him,he failed miserably.
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: infinite59 on February 23, 2004, 03:10:41 PM
We were placed on this Earth to worship Allah and to glorify his name.

I've said it before and now I do it again. Someone who DESIRES you to worship him,is not worshippable at all.
And if the meaning of Allah was to let the whole world worship him,he failed miserably.


Allah doesn't need anything from us.  He doesn't need us to worship him.  We worship Allah to purify ourselves, to stay on the path that is righteous; and not the path that is deserving of his anger.

"By the token of time and through the ages
Verily man is at loss
Except those who worship Allah
And enjoin in the mutual teaching of righteousness,
Good deeds, and council others towards patience"
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on February 24, 2004, 12:43:42 AM
We were placed on this Earth to worship Allah and to glorify his name.

I've said it before and now I do it again. Someone who DESIRES you to worship him,is not worshippable at all.
And if the meaning of Allah was to let the whole world worship him,he failed miserably.


Allah doesn't need anything from us.  He doesn't need us to worship him.  We worship Allah to purify ourselves, to stay on the path that is righteous; and not the path that is deserving of his anger.
If that's true,you were straight up lying in the post I quoted before this one.
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: TiNmaN on February 24, 2004, 01:07:00 AM
whats supposed to happen when jesus comes back? and why would he come back? wat he will fix the world, or... i cant live my life prasing someone or wating for someone, i cant be held down by religion, i just have enough morals to not steal, kill, lie..., i dont need religion to tell me not to do that, when they are all fuckin hipocrits, and you know they are
To non christian belivers it sounds like a total fairy tale, something that could never happen because its not possible, but thats why god is god. But when jesus comes back, as it says in revelations, every 1 in the world is going to see him come down from the sky on a white hoarse regardless of where u are. The reason will be to save the world before it gets self destructed. 7 years after the anti christ avivrs. the rapture is suppsed to be when jesus DOES come bak and take all the christians. or something very close to that. a pastor could tell u more.......
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Suga Foot on February 25, 2004, 09:54:03 AM
I think organized religeon is a good thing.  It gives people something to live for.  It's just not for me.  I'm not gonna go to hell for not believing.  Because as far as I'm concerned, there is no hell.
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: TiNmaN on February 25, 2004, 09:56:25 AM
^^^^^^^^ PLEASE along w/ some of u other commenterz that say fuk organized religion, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go see "passion of the christ".
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 25, 2004, 03:28:51 PM
^^^^^^^^ PLEASE along w/ some of u other commenterz that say fuk organized religion, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go see "passion of the christ".



or better yet, read the old testament...
Title: Re:FUCK organized religion
Post by: Lincoln on February 25, 2004, 07:39:30 PM
^^^^^^^^ PLEASE along w/ some of u other commenterz that say fuk organized religion, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go see "passion of the christ".



or better yet, read the old testament...

That's a great read.