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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: infinite59 on April 04, 2002, 05:07:26 PM
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What's the fuckin difference? Bush was on TV today saying that a suicide bomber is a murderer. Well I got news for him, if he's going to call them murderers then let's keep it real, so is everyone who has every killed anyone in any war. We celebrated in the streets after we dropped the atom bomb on thousands of innocent people in Japan, in WW2. What the fuck is the difference? This is fuckin bullshit.
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c'mon stop trippin, ya'll can't do shit about it so...
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True dat homie. war is never the answer. no matter what side you are on, it is wrong.
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us soldiers set out to kill enemies... maybe they kill innocent at the same time.. but thats unstoppable.. suicide bombers set out to kill innocent people.. thats the diff
us troops dont go out to kill innocent people.. except fro the atom bomb..
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us soldiers set out to kill enemies... maybe they kill innocent at the same time.. but thats unstoppable.. suicide bombers set out to kill innocent people.. thats the diff
us troops dont go out to kill innocent people.. except fro the atom bomb..
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that shows what you know, lol
man US troops have killed so many more innocents than suicide bombers, Bush is a fuckin dickhead
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Come on man. Suicide bombers are out to kill innocent people. If they weren't then they would go out where there were no people and just blow themselves up to prove their point.
Your right about droppin the A bomb on Japan killed alot of innocent people as well. But that's the sad part of war, innocent get killed.
And I'm not saying innocent people dieing in war is fair, but a war is completely different then what those suicide bombers do.
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Come on man. Suicide bombers are out to kill innocent people. If they weren't then they would go out where there were no people and just blow themselves up to prove their point.
Your right about droppin the A bomb on Japan killed alot of innocent people as well. But that's the sad part of war, innocent get killed.
And I'm not saying innocent people dieing in war is fair, but a war is completely different then what those suicide bombers do.
ahh man i really dont wanna get into this and write a long ass response so ima make this short as possible....ok lets see suicide bombers have killed around 300 israelis....and the US has been bombing the fuck outta places too, so who knows how many,and what you dont think the troops out there like to kil people they hate while they can? lol their fucked up like that, but yeah aight i dont wanna upset yall and shit so ill agree with yall, lol, its fuckin useless
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Come on man. Suicide bombers are out to kill innocent people. If they weren't then they would go out where there were no people and just blow themselves up to prove their point.
Your right about droppin the A bomb on Japan killed alot of innocent people as well. But that's the sad part of war, innocent get killed.
And I'm not saying innocent people dieing in war is fair, but a war is completely different then what those suicide bombers do.
LoL @ them walking to some corner and blowing themselves up to prove a point...
That's real though.. those muthafuckers come down here with intensions on killin as many innocent Americans as possible. What the fuck was the point in crashin into the twin towers... they just wanted to take out innocent people.. We're over there fighting them... and at the same time feeding them. What the fuck??
What is the point to this thread? Is it to make the US look bad.. or is it to make the Suicide Bombers not look so bad? I know you're deep into your belief in Islam.. and I have mad respect for you for that becuase you know your stuff.. but why try to protect suicide bombers when YOU KNOW they're wrong.. I dont give a fuck what you're tryna prove.. no need to blow up a gang of innocent people.. they could just have blocked the entrance to the twin towers and had a sit in if they wanted to prove something.
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LoL @ them walking to some corner and blowing themselves up to prove a point...
That's real though.. those muthafuckers come down here with intensions on killin as many innocent Americans as possible. What the fuck was the point in crashin into the twin towers... they just wanted to take out innocent people.. We're over there fighting them... and at the same time feeding them. What the fuck??
What is the point to this thread? Is it to make the US look bad.. or is it to make the Suicide Bombers not look so bad? I know you're deep into your belief in Islam.. and I have mad respect for you for that becuase you know your stuff.. but why try to protect suicide bombers when YOU KNOW they're wrong.. I dont give a fuck what you're tryna prove.. no need to blow up a gang of innocent people.. they could just have blocked the entrance to the twin towers and had a sit in if they wanted to prove something.
LOL, ok CNN.... thats enough
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LoL @ them walking to some corner and blowing themselves up to prove a point...
That's real though.. those muthafuckers come down here with intensions on killin as many innocent Americans as possible. What the fuck was the point in crashin into the twin towers... they just wanted to take out innocent people.. We're over there fighting them... and at the same time feeding them. What the fuck??
What is the point to this thread? Is it to make the US look bad.. or is it to make the Suicide Bombers not look so bad? I know you're deep into your belief in Islam.. and I have mad respect for you for that becuase you know your stuff.. but why try to protect suicide bombers when YOU KNOW they're wrong.. I dont give a fuck what you're tryna prove.. no need to blow up a gang of innocent people.. they could just have blocked the entrance to the twin towers and had a sit in if they wanted to prove something.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. If they had the money we had, they would not be suicide bombing. But when you have nothing, your only military option, on a small budget, is "terrorism". And they didn't just crash into any towers, and they didn't just send anthrax to anyone, they crashed into the World Trade Center, making the statement that the US puts money higher on the priority list than human life, and they send anthrax to dirty poloticians who put economic gain, ahead of human life.
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WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. If they had the money we had, they would not be suicide bombing. But when you have nothing, your only military option, on a small budget, is "terrorism". And they didn't just crash into any towers, and they didn't just send anthrax to anyone, they crashed into the World Trade Center, making the statement that the US puts money higher on the priority list than human life, and they send anthrax to dirty poloticians who put economic gain, ahead of human life.
yeah homie you tell those uneducated foolz up in here runnin their mouth when all their talkin is that same old media bullshit, no beef yall its just that im sick of seein that shit, peace
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WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. If they had the money we had, they would not be suicide bombing. But when you have nothing, your only military option, on a small budget, is "terrorism". And they didn't just crash into any towers, and they didn't just send anthrax to anyone, they crashed into the World Trade Center, making the statement that the US puts money higher on the priority list than human life, and they send anthrax to dirty poloticians who put economic gain, ahead of human life.
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ahh man i really dont wanna get into this and write a long ass response so ima make this short as possible....ok lets see suicide bombers have killed around 300 israelis....and the US has been bombing the fuck outta places too, so who knows how many,and what you dont think the troops out there like to kil people they hate while they can? lol their fucked up like that, but yeah aight i dont wanna upset yall and shit so ill agree with yall, lol, its fuckin useless
I know dogg, either way it's fucked up. But just like you can't justify innocent people dieing from US bombing, you can't justify people blowing themself up and hurting innocent people that didn't deserve it.
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i gotta agree with criminal and sikotik
i mean fuck, a terrorists whole job is to kill the innocent, i mean if they REALLY wanted to don't you think you terrorize fair game like lets say where the military is... i mean fuck, japan got it right (not justifying pearl harbor BUT a military base where people are willling to die for their country as aposed to people who could give a funk less about governement issues and shit and arn't trying to die) you also got to remember that INNOCENT ALWAYS DIE IN ANY WAR , but there's 2 ways of looking at it , killing the innocent on purpose which terrorists do....and killing the innocent on accident with intent on killing the enemy.
i.e jeffry dommer killed innocent boys with intent .....but this lady i use to know in my old neighborhood killed her own son with a gun by trying to protect her son from a kidnapper, she was aiming for the kidnapper but she shot her son ....now should she be thrown in the same category as dommer? no. should she go to jail for life for that? no. any organized military that's will is to kill ANOTHER military is not considered a terrorist. but a poor military of rag tag fundamentalist who just hi jack a plane and go and kill people who don't even know anything about the conflict in the m. east is just WRONG...theres a BIIIIIIG difference
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^^ That's right... You can't justify it... I dont give a fuck how poor they are. And you foolz are right... I dont know shit about politics.. this is probably one of the first threads I hit up regarding this issue.. i dont even watch the news nomore... my thing is just fuck'em.
And tha truth is.. these threads get on my nerves.. I really dont give a fuck.. why is everyone hatin on tha U.S.. we're just doing what we got to do to be the great country that we are... if you dont think we're a great country.. then get to steppin'... follow your homie John Walker, strap some M-80 on your chest and go kick it with them foolz....
Words from a ghetto ass person in California... Nothin more nothin less.
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i gotta agree with criminal and sikotik
i mean fuck, a terrorists whole job is to kill the innocent, i mean if they REALLY wanted to don't you think you terrorize fair game like lets say where the military is... i mean fuck, japan got it right (not justifying pearl harbor BUT a military base where people are willling to die for their country as aposed to people who could give a funk less about governement issues and shit and arn't trying to die) you also got to remember that INNOCENT ALWAYS DIE IN ANY WAR , but there's 2 ways of looking at it , killing the innocent on purpose which terrorists do....and killing the innocent on accident with intent on killing the enemy.
i.e jeffry dommer killed innocent boys with intent .....but this lady i use to know in my old neighborhood killed her own son with a gun by trying to protect her son from a kidnapper, she was aiming for the kidnapper but she shot her son ....now should she be thrown in the same category as dommer? no. should she go to jail for life for that? no. any organized military that's will is to kill ANOTHER military is not considered a terrorist. but a poor military of rag tag fundamentalist who just hi jack a plane and go and kill people who don't even know anything about the conflict in the m. east is just WRONG...theres a BIIIIIIG difference
So you recommend the Palestinian "suicide bombers" just let Isreal take over Palestine and install troops in their territories till eventually the Muslims end up like the Native American?
They are bombing for a cause, they are demanding that the troops occupying their territory leave the territory, it's similar to the Boston Massacre in American history.
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So you recommend the Palestinian "suicide bombers" just let Isreal take over Palestine and install troops in their territories till eventually the Muslims end up like the Native American?
They are bombing for a cause, they are demanding that the troops occupying their territory leave the territory, it's similar to the Boston Massacre in American history.
first of all i think thats a pussy way to resolve a problem, by blowing yourself up and killing innocent, that's going to do you NO FAVORS but escalating the dispute and putting fuel on the fire....and if Arafat wasn't so overdemanding , and if Netinyahoo (sp?) could swallowed some pride i think this issue could've been handled a long time ago diplomatically
second of all , do you even know what happened at the boston massacre?? besides the fact only 6 people died that whole thing was a joke really lol the boston 'masacre' you read about and hear about is greatly exagerated and theres fault on both sides
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So you recommend the Palestinian "suicide bombers" just let Isreal take over Palestine and install troops in their territories till eventually the Muslims end up like the Native American?
They are bombing for a cause, they are demanding that the troops occupying their territory leave the territory, it's similar to the Boston Massacre in American history.
I know they are bombing for a cause but that cause is hurting people that don't have anything to do with the gov't, they are just trying to live their lives.
Like Jake said, go and blow yourself up near the millitary or people who are willing to die, not innocent civilians. That's just wrong and their is absolutely NO way around killing civilians.
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first of all i think thats a pussy way to resolve a problem, by blowing yourself up and killing innocent, that's going to do you NO FAVORS but escalating the dispute and putting fuel on the fire....and if Arafat wasn't so overdemanding , and if Netinyahoo (sp?) could swallowed some pride i think this issue could've been handled a long time ago diplomatically
second of all , do you even know what happened at the boston massacre?? besides the fact only 6 people died that whole thing was a joke really lol the boston 'masacre' you read about and hear about is greatly exagerated and theres fault on both sides
first of all, sharon is the israeli leader not "netinyahoo"
second of all, you know what fuck it
im tryin and tryin to spit truth and to open up american eyes to injustice, but you muthafuckaz been brainwashed to the point where yall wont believe anything else, cnn has done its job
you know what on the day of judgement well see where the George Bushes and the people who supported him stand....
fuck this
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if there is a 15 year old boy pickin up a gun infront of a U.S Soldier, u think the US Soldier will say "no please dont shoot" Fuck no. After that 15 year old boy gets killed some other guy picks up his gun so people assume its the US are killing innocent people. But right now when the US are droppin bombs, accidents always happen
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I know they are bombing for a cause but that cause is hurting people that don't have anything to do with the gov't, they are just trying to live their lives.
Like Jake said, go and blow yourself up near the millitary or people who are willing to die, not innocent civilians. That's just wrong and their is absolutely NO way around killing civilians.
I don't like the killing of innocent civilians any more than you do, but let's be real about it, Americans has been bombing civilians Libya, Iraq, and Sudan for ten years, when we should have been working with the people over there (Iraq), to overthrow their own governments, even the most brainwashed American dimplomats can admit that. Many of these Arabs are defending their land, while America is out for oil, if it wasn't for oil and the threat of Sept. 11th, Americans would advocate the bombing Arab countries, "back into the stone age."
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c'mon man what your talkin about is bullshit
the suicide bombers killed innocent people that were unarmed and the us troops are just defending the US, because they struck first
where u from infinite cuz if your from the states your ass needs 2 move from another country
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^^^why?
cuz he's speaking the truth?
cuz he refuses to conform to the established belief and way of thinking?
cuz he dont see the "american dream" being shared by the world?
cuz what is in americas favour isnt in the worlds?
cuz he sees oppresion and speaks against it?
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i aint liken this thread at all this the last time ima peep it.. yes they are at war.. but do suicide bombers do that shit in military areas or target military shit.. hell naw they try and prove a point by killen innocent people... suicide bombers are not fighting a war.. they are makeing a war they aint doing shit for their county other than makeing israel retaliate causing more casualties.. maybe if suicide bombers were the same as troops then they would attack the israeli police or army but now there cowards and blow up street corners and malls with little kids around and shit.. FUCKEN COWARDS
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I don't appreciate being called brainwashed. because I do my research as much as anyone else here. I don't agree with the excessive bombing in the Middle East as much as Infinite and Techniec. That's not my point.
My point is that suidice bombing is murder. You guys are making it out like suicide bombing is justified due to the way the Palestinians are being treated.
That's almost like saying that it was okay for Tim McVeigh to blow up the Oklahoma building and kill all of those innocent kids in there because he had problems with the way the government treated US troops. You just can't justify that.
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c'mon man what your talkin about is bullshit
the suicide bombers killed innocent people that were unarmed and the us troops are just defending the US, because they struck first
where u from infinite cuz if your from the states your ass needs 2 move from another country
Why? I pay taxes. And it is stated in the constitution that I have the right to disagree with the governments foriegn policies, and as our Democratic leaders, it is their duty as the government to listen to the greivences of thousands and thousands of Muslim Americans paying taxes. It's like Dr. King said, I follow the laws of the government, unless the laws of the government controdict those of a higher power. And get ready because thousands of Muslims are getting ready to march on Washington, believe that, until the occupation of Palestinian terrotories is put to an end. And in America, the constitution gaurantee's us the right of peaceful protest.
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What's the fuckin difference? Bush was on TV today saying that a suicide bomber is a murderer. Well I got news for him, if he's going to call them murderers then let's keep it real, so is everyone who has every killed anyone in any war. We celebrated in the streets after we dropped the atom bomb on thousands of innocent people in Japan, in WW2. What the fuck is the difference? This is fuckin bullshit.
50 some years...
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Guys, Honestly, arguments like these are the reason that people like me get turned off by politics. I could care LESS about politics now, I can't change it, and it's a circular argument, nobody will back anything the government does, it's totally useless to even give a crap about any of it.
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Why? I pay taxes. And it is stated in the constitution that I have the right to disagree with the governments foriegn policies, and as our Democratic leaders, it is their duty as the government to listen to the greivences of thousands and thousands of Muslim Americans paying taxes. It's like Dr. King said, I follow the laws of the government, unless the laws of the government controdict those of a higher power. And get ready because thousands of Muslims are getting ready to march on Washington, believe that, until the occupation of Palestinian terrotories is put to an end. And in America, the constitution gaurantee's us the right of peaceful protest.
Man, sadly, Nobody cares. I wish muslims would march on washington, it'd give me something interesting to watch on cnn again. Name 1 time a peaceful protest accomplished anything. Nobody cares. VIOLENT protests might accomplish the opposite of what you're lookin' to accomplish, but at least that's results, lol.
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Man, sadly, Nobody cares. I wish muslims would march on washington, it'd give me something interesting to watch on cnn again. Name 1 time a peaceful protest accomplished anything. Nobody cares. VIOLENT protests might accomplish the opposite of what you're lookin' to accomplish, but at least that's results, lol.
VIOLENT? Who said it was going to be violent? I said Muslims are going to be marching on Washington, and they are having meetings here in Kansas City, and we are going to take some action. Marches, and Protesting, are non-violent campaigns.
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VIOLENT? Who said it was going to be violent? I said Muslims are going to be marching on Washington, and they are having meetings here in Kansas City, and we are going to take some action. Marches, and Protesting, are non-violent campaigns.
dogg i think your misunderstanding what trauma is sayin....hes sayin that its good that yall are marching and protesting but peacefull protests dont get the point across. only violence has done it
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Yup, exactly. I was saying that nobody cares about peaceful protests.
People DO care about violent protests, but those don't work, it works the other way (people reject the message).
I'mjust saying you need to find ways at home to get your point across. It's a very slow process.
Like, for instance, the freedom marches of the 60's, in my opinion, mainly only worked because people were already looking to change, the hippie movement was just about to start, and the young generation agreed that blacks shouldn't be discriminated against. If the entire white community would have been against it, it still never would have happened. Instead, you had a lot of white college students, and younger whites in major cities who agreed with the cause, so it went through.
Same thing now. Yall are such a small minority (that are unhappy with the governments policies over there) that your message will be rejected, the peaceful protest won't matter to anyone (sadly, even me, that's what i'm saying) and you'll be wasting time better spent elsewhere.
BUT, if you started small, at home with your message, and try to influence people you know, etc. etc. etc. maybe it can grow bigger. Don't go to washington to do what you can't do in your own town.
Peace~
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Yup, exactly. I was saying that nobody cares about peaceful protests.
People DO care about violent protests, but those don't work, it works the other way (people reject the message).
I'mjust saying you need to find ways at home to get your point across. It's a very slow process.
Like, for instance, the freedom marches of the 60's, in my opinion, mainly only worked because people were already looking to change, the hippie movement was just about to start, and the young generation agreed that blacks shouldn't be discriminated against. If the entire white community would have been against it, it still never would have happened. Instead, you had a lot of white college students, and younger whites in major cities who agreed with the cause, so it went through.
Same thing now. Yall are such a small minority (that are unhappy with the governments policies over there) that your message will be rejected, the peaceful protest won't matter to anyone (sadly, even me, that's what i'm saying) and you'll be wasting time better spent elsewhere.
BUT, if you started small, at home with your message, and try to influence people you know, etc. etc. etc. maybe it can grow bigger. Don't go to washington to do what you can't do in your own town.
Peace~
I understand what you saying now..... but what I am saying is that when they see thousands of Muslims unified and ready to cause ruckus, if shit gets out of hand, then they are going to be less likely to kill off Muslims in other countries, because they'll see that we are watching the situation very closely. Like a president would be less likely to do something corrupt, if he knows the press is on his ass every second, well we are on their ass watching for foul play.
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I don't appreciate being called brainwashed. because I do my research as much as anyone else here. I don't agree with the excessive bombing in the Middle East as much as Infinite and Techniec. That's not my point.
My point is that suidice bombing is murder. You guys are making it out like suicide bombing is justified due to the way the Palestinians are being treated.
That's almost like saying that it was okay for Tim McVeigh to blow up the Oklahoma building and kill all of those innocent kids in there because he had problems with the way the government treated US troops. You just can't justify that.
exactly (this is why i love sikotik, this man has almost the exact same opinion as me everytime)
i'm not brainwashed....hell i don't even watch CNN, and the only time i do is when i watch it's sister station CNN headlines news...and that's only to see the sports scores on the bottom of the page, hell idon't even watch those news channels (cnn, fox new, cnn headline, msnbc, ect) the only thing i watch really is the sports scores and maybe the "o'reily factor" (great show btw) but other than that the only shit i watch on tv, is Basketball, MTV, BET, and FOX (simpsons, and king of the hill and shit) i read about all my shit in the newspapers (Bakersfield Calafornian, LA Times, Washtington post, NY times which we HAVE to read at school)
and tech I KNEW that Al Sharon was Prime minister of Israel, i was talking about BEFORE THAT when benjamen netenyahoo was their leader, mr. "canada won the war of 1812" and if anyone's going to be labled ANYTHING it should be you, mr. overly biased and mr. i only see things from one perspective
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LOL you two are like Israel & Palestine, had a lil peace for a while that wasnt really peace but shit broke out again, lol
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^^^why?
cuz he's speaking the truth?
cuz he refuses to conform to the established belief and way of thinking?
cuz he dont see the "american dream" being shared by the world?
cuz what is in americas favour isnt in the worlds?
cuz he sees oppresion and speaks against it?
shut up im not talkin 2 u
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Why? I pay taxes. And it is stated in the constitution that I have the right to disagree with the governments foriegn policies, and as our Democratic leaders, it is their duty as the government to listen to the greivences of thousands and thousands of Muslim Americans paying taxes. It's like Dr. King said, I follow the laws of the government, unless the laws of the government controdict those of a higher power. And get ready because thousands of Muslims are getting ready to
march on Washington, believe that, until the occupation of Palestinian terrotories is put to an end. And in America, the constitution gaurantee's us the right of peaceful protest.
man seriously what happened on 9-11 fucked our country over, they killed INNOCENT people,,,,,and u should be thankful that the US troops are over there fightin for your ass man, i dont see u over there,,,,,,,,,,how can u be hatin on the greatest country ever man, the place where u rest your head
but anyway i wish u would stop wit the religious posts and the post like this because it is just fuckin up the board seriously
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man seriously what happened on 9-11 fucked our country over, they killed INNOCENT people,,,,,and u should be thankful that the US troops are over there fightin for your ass man, i dont see u over there,,,,,,,,,,how can u be hatin on the greatest country ever man, the place where u rest your head
but anyway i wish u would stop wit the religious posts and the post like this because it is just fuckin up the board seriously
Troops over there fighting for me, are only putting us in more danger, and earning us more enemies, the U.S. has enough enemies already, but we gain more everyday.
Your not a moderator or designer of this forum, so basically you can't say what threads are good, and what threads are not, in fact I think that's a matter of opinion.
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^^^^^^^^ i guess when someone comes and fuccs up our country we just let it slide
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murder is murder yall. get over it. for one thing, u can NEVER take the word of a politician...thats known. So if they say were are doing sumthing for a just reason...find out for yurself, dont go by their word. Tha suicide bombing IS a fucked up way to go about proving yur point. Infinite (frum what i saw) wasnt defending tha suicide bombers at all. Only saying that before pointing the fingers at other people and judging them....look at yurself and see how u handle situations. Which Americans dont tend to do. I dont think that any SPECIFIC people are evil....and others arent. We are not "In the right" in every situation. sumtimes our wars MIGHT be for a good cause...but alotta times their not. Rather then questioning that, most Americans jus believe that we are tha good guys. 9/11 was a real tragedy, and tha perpetrators were completely wrong in doing it. I dont think ANYone here is questioning that. But, it was tha ACTION that was wrong...and not necessarily tha belief behind it. Instead of our country trying to figure out why others hate us, we jus say that theyre evil. Its like when tha riots out here in LA popped off years ago. Whites didnt take tha time to understand WHY black people were upset...they jus came to tha conclusion..."they just hate us". well, hate alwayz has a reason behind it. and it doesnt end by us Bombing tha shit out of another country, or sending in troops to destroy towns and kill people. That jus inflames tha hate. Our government has done sum VERY curupt things in its time. And probably more curupt then what is happening in most middle eastern countries now. The problem is, we dont bother to HELP fix the government there....we just try to enforce our policies on them. They arent the same as us, and dont want to be. IF we are going to help, we need to understand their culture and work WITH it...instead of going against the grain. Or jus stay tha fuk outta their business. Makin enemies now, is only gonna hurt us in tha future. Hypothetically, what would happen...if say in 60 yrs...tha US isnt a superpower anymore. and while we WERE tha most powerful country in tha world, we made all these enemies...who imposed their policies on you? then what? would u question yur governemts choices then? probably so...
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exactly (this is why i love sikotik, this man has almost the exact same opinion as me everytime)
i'm not brainwashed....hell i don't even watch CNN, and the only time i do is when i watch it's sister station CNN headlines news...and that's only to see the sports scores on the bottom of the page, hell idon't even watch those news channels (cnn, fox new, cnn headline, msnbc, ect) the only thing i watch really is the sports scores and maybe the "o'reily factor" (great show btw) but other than that the only shit i watch on tv, is Basketball, MTV, BET, and FOX (simpsons, and king of the hill and shit) i read about all my shit in the newspapers (Bakersfield Calafornian, LA Times, Washtington post, NY times which we HAVE to read at school)
and tech I KNEW that Al Sharon was Prime minister of Israel, i was talking about BEFORE THAT when benjamen netenyahoo was their leader, mr. "canada won the war of 1812" and if anyone's going to be labled ANYTHING it should be you, mr. overly biased and mr. i only see things from one perspective
ha ha ha you fuckin kill me man, youre the biggest fuck i know
you admit you read newspapers , you';re still subjected to biased media....idiot
and what do u know, the 16 yr old boyscout turned super-MOD, just brought up one of my old posts, how cute...
you sure are mature......
and please tell me how i see things from one view,
I WAS BORN IN THE FUCKIN MIDDLE EAST AND RAISED IN CANADA, YOU MY FUCKIN LIL FRIEND ARE BORN AND BRED AMERICAN, WHOS MORE SUBJECTIVE???
pussy
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all the proof i need that prince is conitually fixated on acting his shoe size
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oh god ::)
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all the proof i need that prince is conitually fixated on acting his shoe size
im gonna shut up before you "flex your powers"
herb, lol
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^^^^^^^^ i guess when someone comes and fuccs up our country we just let it slide
what do other countries do when we fuk up theres?
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im gonna shut up before you "flex your powers"
herb, lol
haha cute
yet another example ::)
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True dat homie. war is never the answer. no matter what side you are on, it is wrong.
i agree but here in EUROPE
almost all people suports PALISTINIA
because we see that inocent children get killed by israels ppl
and BUSH has sayd pull out
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In Europe, honestly now, all we hear is Palestine's side. We like have the opposite of CNN. I swear Al Jazeera owns all the European stations.
We very rarely hear the Israeli side of the story here.
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In Europe, honestly now, all we hear is Palestine's side. We like have the opposite of CNN. I swear Al Jazeera owns all the European stations.
We very rarely hear the Israeli side of the story here.
Recently yes, over the past years though, the press have constantly drawn comparisons between the PLO and the IRA, portraying them as evil, brainwashed and twisted, much like the IRA have been portrayed by the media. The difference between here and America is that we see both sides of the story and people can decide what to think for themselves, plus the UK places great emphasis on politics and free will, which is why so many people have an opinion on the troubles.
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Well, they are comparable. Whether as maniacs or freedom fighters, same situation. But I wish to recall the Daily Mail front cover cartoon by Stan McMurtry.
Gerry Adams is in his new office at Westminster. Looking out at the view...
"Look, Martin! There's where we blew up Airey Neave! There's where we blew up Victoria Station! The Hyde Park bombing, there, that's where we did it!"
Fuck 'em. Whatever their cause...Gandhi won peacefully, can't you bunch of fuckers who pretend to be Irish, but ain't?
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ive tried to stay outta this, but i feel now that i gotta express myself...
I dont like self bombings ... the Holy Qu'ran says that you shall pretect yourself and your religion, but it doesnt say that you shall kill innocent people or commit suicide...
BUT...
I do understand the exterm palestians for doing this, since their home, their kids, their friends and even their pets have been bombed by american weapons .... the only way to stop it is by suicide-bombings... as matter fact, its known that USA have reduced the boms they're detonating in arab countries after the Twin towers bombings (exept afghanistan) .. becuz they dont want empire state building or the white house to be bombed .... so did the terrorist succeed??? answer: yes
i dont think that the twin towers bombings or any other "terrorist" bombings is correct, but you gotta remember than the only diffrence between the terrorist and USA is that USA is does it official while the terrorist does it and hide... USA have for example killed over 200 000 people from iraq by bombs and by forbidding other european countries to export food and medecins, theyve set a limit nobody must exeed... people are saying that USA only targets military areas when bombing, if thats tru, i gotta say that the american pilots are really dumb and uneducated since they managed to kill 200 000 civilians during 20 years "by accident"... btw the hiroshima and nagasaki atom bombs wasnt aimed against the military .. it was aimed againt the civilians + all the important buildings (not much diffrent from the bin laden bombings)....
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Well, they are comparable. Whether as maniacs or freedom fighters, same situation. But I wish to recall the Daily Mail front cover cartoon by Stan McMurtry.
Gerry Adams is in his new office at Westminster. Looking out at the view...
"Look, Martin! There's where we blew up Airey Neave! There's where we blew up Victoria Station! The Hyde Park bombing, there, that's where we did it!"
Fuck 'em. Whatever their cause...Gandhi won peacefully, can't you bunch of fuckers who pretend to be Irish, but ain't?
On the real, my great grandfather, an uncle and my 2nd cousin died in the troubles, they were all Irish catholics persecuted in their homeland, and now you call me a fucker like im the cat in the IRA? Did any of them bomb anyone? Nope Infact did they do anything against the law? Nope and yet YOU call ME a fucker, were they in the IRA? nope what were they? Irish catholics thats all, i ask you how you can call them fuckers?
BUT your right, Sinn Fein should say fuck it, y'all are dieing for nothing, fuck all the people who died for their freedom FUCK THEM, as long as their not British WHO THE FUCK CARES?
Im from London, but whats more painful, my hometown being bombed or my family dieing in their homeland cause their catholics hmm hard one...
Oh and FUCK YOU...
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If you read it, I pointed towards the IRA as being "fuckers". I'm a Catholic. Been there, done that, people hate me for it. So I understand that, no doubt.
I think the IRA and their ilk are blinkered, to say the least.
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If you read it, I pointed towards the IRA as being "fuckers". I'm a Catholic. Been there, done that, people hate me for it. So I understand that, no doubt.
I think the IRA and their ilk are blinkered, to say the least.
No you said "you" fuckers, did you grow up in central London?, did you windows shake when they bombed NatWest? Did you have family in Derry and London living in fear of death? I cry every night when i pray and send up a message to the people who died, and i will until i die.
And Sinn Fein are the political representitives of the IRA their not terrorists, they've neither bombed nor killed anyone.
Spill the blood of my fam, ima spill your blood, word to you and all the people Republican/loyalist/british that died in the troubles...
(http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/mccormick/photos/no281r.jpg)
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Well, I'm sorry I was vague.
But...You wanna talk about fear, about terror?
You ever been in some small Lebanese Christian enclave when 5 Syrian tanks drive through, blowing the shit out of random houses?
When Palestinian and Jewish criminal groups duel each other over some petty field, involving the whole enclave, killing several?
Had this happen about once a week?
As for tears, I know bout them, too.
You had family killed by the IRA? I dunno if you have, but if you have, you'll understand me. I have.
As for that Sinn Fein comment...Martin McGuiness has boasted about killing 12 Catholic informers. Gerry Adams is thought to be responsible for Warrenpoint. And so on.
Sinn Fein is basically IRA in suits, with lawyers instead of bombs for weapons.
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haha cute
yet another example ::)
cut ya bullshit out man, aint nobody checkin for u
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....except ..YOU, right?
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exactly (this is why i love sikotik, this man has almost the exact same opinion as me everytime)
lol, I find myself quoting off you alot too.
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Well, I'm sorry I was vague.
But...You wanna talk about fear, about terror?
You ever been in some small Lebanese Christian enclave when 5 Syrian tanks drive through, blowing the shit out of random houses?
When Palestinian and Jewish criminal groups duel each other over some petty field, involving the whole enclave, killing several?
Had this happen about once a week?
As for tears, I know bout them, too.
You had family killed by the IRA? I dunno if you have, but if you have, you'll understand me. I have.
As for that Sinn Fein comment...Martin McGuiness has boasted about killing 12 Catholic informers. Gerry Adams is thought to be responsible for Warrenpoint. And so on.
Sinn Fein is basically IRA in suits, with lawyers instead of bombs for weapons.
What the hell has syrian tanks got to do with this? You blatantly called me a "fucker", i feel for the Lebanese and whoever faces war, no war is right, i never condoned war or death and never will, i just object to being insulted for my beliefs, my people have had enough of that over time...
I havent had any family killed by the IRA, my uncle was shot in the arm by an IRA marksman (trying to kill him) when he served in the British Army out there, and 2 of my neighnours were killed in the Natwest bomb.
Your right about Sinn Fein, except now their politicians, commited to peace as they have proven, what they've done in their past, in a war, does not make them terrorists, terrorists are the ones who bombed London. If Gerry Adams left any of the bombs in London then i would denounce him.
And i never once condoned the IRA, i fully support their political views but have never agreed with violence, however if my family are being killed then i have no quarrels with their killers dieng slow painful deaths on the streets of Derry.
How many weapons have loyalists decommisioned? Keep calling the IRA terrorists all you want, but to quote Martin Luther King "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"
However i should apologise for going off on you, its just i dislike being called a fucker for wanted my family members killers dead...
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Man, can I REPEAT I did not mean YOU. I was talking of the IRA, for fuck's sake. I'm entirely in agreement with you there.
The Loyalists have decommed more weapons than the IRA, in fact. The Orange Order is now completely decommed except handguns, and many other orgs are in similar states.
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God Bless America, Land of the free, Home of the Brave.
If you feel like I feel, put a flag in your avatar.
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UNITED STATES SHOULD DO WHAT THE SOVIET UNION DID,THATS WHY THEY NEVER GET BOMBED...KILL EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE SUICIDE BOMBERS FAMILY WOMEN & CHILDREN ALL OF THEM...AND WATCH HOW FAST THE BOMBING STOPS... EYE FOR AN EYE...THE UNITED STATES ARE PUSSIES I WOULD OF BEEN BOMBING THEM FOOLS OFF THE MAP...YOU KILL OUR CITIZEN WILL KILL YOURS LETS SEE WHO LAST THE LONGEST. >:(
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UNITED STATES SHOULD DO WHAT THE SOVIET UNION DID,THATS WHY THEY NEVER GET BOMBED...KILL EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE SUICIDE BOMBERS FAMILY WOMEN & CHILDREN ALL OF THEM...AND WATCH HOW FAST THE BOMBING STOPS... EYE FOR AN EYE...THE UNITED STATES ARE PUSSIES I WOULD OF BEEN BOMBING THEM FOOLS OFF THE MAP...YOU KILL OUR CITIZEN WILL KILL YOURS LETS SEE WHO LAST THE LONGEST. >:(
thats wrong dogg
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UNITED STATES SHOULD DO WHAT THE SOVIET UNION DID,THATS WHY THEY NEVER GET BOMBED...KILL EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE SUICIDE BOMBERS FAMILY WOMEN & CHILDREN ALL OF THEM...AND WATCH HOW FAST THE BOMBING STOPS... EYE FOR AN EYE...THE UNITED STATES ARE PUSSIES I WOULD OF BEEN BOMBING THEM FOOLS OFF THE MAP...YOU KILL OUR CITIZEN WILL KILL YOURS LETS SEE WHO LAST THE LONGEST. >:(
:-/ .... ::)
dogg, we supposed to be moving forward, not going back in human evolution...
no wonder the worlds fucked....
-{bLaDe}