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Title: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 09:01:53 PM
I just want to say, that at chutch recently, we've been studying the world's religions.  My testimony of god is strengthened when I see and read about peaceful religions the world over, Buddists, Hindus, and Sikhs, to name just a few.  Zoroastrianism, Etc.  It's great to see these religions that have similar views as my own, and it shows me, for the millionth time, that god does exist, and his good people do his good work all over the world, no matter what they call him.

Peace~
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: bLaDe on April 18, 2002, 09:06:47 PM
Yeah word, all religons are peaceful.  For some ppl who say "The religons caused the wars" ... Its the people, not the religon nor God.....

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 09:16:29 PM
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I just want to say, that at chutch recently, we've been studying the world's religions.  My testimony of god is strengthened when I see and read about peaceful religions the world over, Buddists, Hindus, and Sikhs, to name just a few.  Zoroastrianism, Etc.  It's great to see these religions that have similar views as my own, and it shows me, for the millionth time, that god does exist, and his good people do his good work all over the world, no matter what they call him.

Peace~


Yeah it's a shame that good Muslims have to stand together and prevent their whole nation from being exterminated, and sometimes they resort to violence.... but the Old Testament supported the death penalty and the stoning of deviant children, so hmmmm..... there's alot of gray area in your statement Trauma.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Doggystylin on April 18, 2002, 09:17:59 PM
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Yeah it's a shame that good Muslims have to stand together and prevent their whole nation from being exterminated, and sometimes they resort to violence.... but the Old Testament supported the death penalty and the stoning of deviant children, so hmmmm..... there's alot of gray area in your statement Trauma.


word.....lol
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 09:20:09 PM
A christian and a sikh brought positivity to this message, the muslims brought static.  What does that say?  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Doggystylin on April 18, 2002, 09:21:41 PM
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A christian and a sikh brought positivity to this message, the muslims brought static.  What does that say?  


LMAO
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 09:23:47 PM
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A christian and a sikh brought positivity to this message, the muslims brought static.  What does that say?  


The best way to hide a lie is between two truths:
Truth 1: A Christian and a sikh brought posotivity to this message.
Hidden Barb (Lie): You clearly left Islam out of your post to suggest that Islam is not a religion of peace.  Even though the term Islam means: Peace (Submit
Truth 2: Muslims brought static.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 09:25:41 PM
I clearly left islam out, because I don't know the nature of islam.  All I see is negativity from some muslims on this board.  So I don't mention them.

But, what makes my heart soar, is the religions I see that are nothing BUT positive.  Look at india, for example, the good people of india are an inspiration to me.  

Notice I also left out the Jewish faith, but you convienantly overlooked that.  

Bring it positive, homie, it's possible, you know.  You don't have to hate everything.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 09:34:01 PM
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I clearly left islam out, because I don't know the nature of islam.  All I see is negativity from some muslims on this board.  So I don't mention them.

But, what makes my heart soar, is the religions I see that are nothing BUT positive.  Look at india, for example, the good people of india are an inspiration to me.  

Notice I also left out the Jewish faith, but you convienantly overlooked that.  

Bring it positive, homie, it's possible, you know.  You don't have to hate everything.  


You've been lied to.  The truth has been flipped around.  As it was in the case of the Native Americans, as it was in African aparthied, and in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.  The Slave traders justified slave trade through the bible.  Saying that slaves descended from Noah's deviant child Ham.  The truth was flipped around.  They called Nat Turner a mass murderer, but others would view him as a hero.  The oppressed are called the bad guys when they show resistance.  When you attack our religion, and we defend it, you call us angry.  One man's murderer is another man's freedom fighter.  The truth has been flipped around.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Doggystylin on April 18, 2002, 09:34:41 PM
yo trauma i suggest you read the Qu'ran and get atleast some info on Islam and then talk all this man, it would be tight if you read up about every religion actually but im saying if your going to talk on something, atleast know something about it, know what your talking about
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 09:40:24 PM
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You've been lied to.  The truth has been flipped around.  As it was in the case of the Native Americans, as it was in African aparthied, and in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.  The Slave traders justified slave trade through the bible.  Saying that slaves descended from Noah's deviant child Ham.  The truth was flipped around.  They called Nat Turner a mass murderer, but others would view him as a hero.  The oppressed are called the bad guys when they show resistance.  When you attack our religion, and we defend it, you call us angry.  One man's murderer is another man's freedom fighter.  The truth has been flipped around.  


That's another post.  This post is about peaceful religions.  I didn't mention christianity in it either, but you're blinded.  Props, AGAIN, like I said before you stared your usual negative crap, to the peaceful religions in the world, Zoroastrians, Buddists, Sikh's, Hindus, etc. etc.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 09:42:34 PM
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yo trauma i suggest you read the Qu'ran and get atleast some info on Islam and then talk all this man, it would be tight if you read up about every religion actually but im saying if your going to talk on something, atleast know something about it, know what your talking about


I get my info from you.  You are my muslim contacts.  If you were good muslims, I would have an accurate representation of your religion, right?  Your religion supports lots of cussing, bombing the world trade center, hating jews, and suicide bombing israeli children.  That's all I've learned.

Now, I'm sure that's not the case.  I'm sure Islam is a peaceful religion.  But my point is; you gotta work at it.  Bring positivity.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Doggystylin on April 18, 2002, 09:46:46 PM
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I get my info from you.  You are my muslim contacts.  If you were good muslims, I would have an accurate representation of your religion, right?  Your religion supports lots of cussing, bombing the world trade center, hating jews, and suicide bombing israeli children.  That's all I've learned.

Now, I'm sure that's not the case.  I'm sure Islam is a peaceful religion.  But my point is; you gotta work at it.  Bring positivity.  


thats not a good way to get info then, lol...cause im not a good muslim to be honest, i dont know a lot about islam, so when you just think islam is all about what we say and what the media and what the world says, then thats gonna be one twisted up religion, if you want the true islam then go read about it yourself, go to the root, ya know?
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 09:47:05 PM
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I get my info from you.  You are my muslim contacts.  If you were good muslims, I would have an accurate representation of your religion, right?  Your religion supports lots of cussing, bombing the world trade center, hating jews, and suicide bombing israeli children.  That's all I've learned.

Now, I'm sure that's not the case.  I'm sure Islam is a peaceful religion.  But my point is; you gotta work at it.  Bring positivity.  


Okay, now you've stepped out of bounds.  We said this forum was going to not get personal.  And your the first person to take it from an educational debate, to a personal attack.  Congratulations.  I was wonderin who would be the first person to fuck up this forum.  It was Trauma.  Let it be heard.  You just called Doggy and I bad Muslims.  

You know how many gangbangers out there believe in Christianity? Ask them what they believe in.  It won't be Islam. They'll say "I was raised Christian, I'm a Christian."   And then they go to jail and convert to Islam and become posotive black nationalists.  Happens all the time.  Christianity is not bad, they were.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 09:49:45 PM
^^ I'm just saying, I don't know about Islam, and what I've learned, as a layman, is from yall.  And yall support the craziest, most negative crap I've ever heard.  You support John Walker.  He's a taliban.  He bombed our wives, our children.  Is that Islam?  Show me what Islam is with Islam's positivity.  

Lesson Taught , Check Mark.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:02:31 PM
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^^ I'm just saying, I don't know about Islam, and what I've learned, as a layman, is from yall.  And yall support the craziest, most negative crap I've ever heard.  You support John Walker.  He's a taliban.  He bombed our wives, our children.  Is that Islam?  Show me what Islam is with Islam's positivity.  

Lesson Taught , Check Mark.


I didn't even understand this post or your question ^^^^ And I support Johnny Walker, he knows FAR, FAR more about America's foriegn policy, and relations in the middle east than you do.  I said I remain neutral when it comes to the Taliban.  But when it comes to Johnny Walker, he's far more educated about the situation than you ever will be.  If you knew anything about Johnny Walker you would know that at the time Johnny Walker aligned himself with the Taliban, America even supported the Taliban, and more than that, colleges two weeks before the Sept. 11, were going to have them lecture students about their country and political system.  Walker made testimony to authorities after his capture that he was very upset about the Sept. 11th attacks, and that he may of even wanted out of the Taliban but it was too late.  Your an armchair polotician, you don't even bother to research.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:04:24 PM
So, it's alright if he only PARTIALLY supported the killing of my wife and children? Hardly.

He's taliban, he's the enemy.  Who are you standing for?  Us, or them?  Make a stand.  America has been looking for Osama bin Ladin for what, 10 years now?  And this guy has shook his HAND since then?  What are you thinking?

Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Don Jacob on April 18, 2002, 10:05:59 PM
i don't tink trauma ruined this board.....if anything he made it BETTER


i mean (no diss ) but this forum is HEAVILY muslum biased, and it seems if anyone brings another perspective Tech lables them as brainwashed in an heavily muslum saturated infinate post.


i think different perspectives and examinations of other religions are GREAT for this forum, becuase if we left it 'Muslum Dominated' (i don't know if this is the word i want to use but...whatever) this baord and the people here would get self absorbed in their set beliefs.


i dunno why i'm throwing this in but this is another thing that seperates Christianity and Islam in the world. Christianity/Catholosism openly allows and welcomes peeps to question it and intricatly examine it while in A LOT of Muslum nations you can get capped for even quetioning it in the slightest


it's about perspective y'all
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:06:16 PM
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So, it's alright if he only PARTIALLY supported the killing of my wife and children? Hardly.

He's taliban, he's the enemy.  Who are you standing for?  Us, or them?  Make a stand.  America has been looking for Osama bin Ladin for what, 10 years now?  And this guy has shook his HAND since then?  What are you thinking?



So it's alright if you partially supported the killings of children in Iraq through sanctions, and bombing of innocent children in Afganistan and Sudan.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:07:25 PM
I don't support the Taliban.  I do support Johnny Walker.   Peace.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: bLaDe on April 18, 2002, 10:08:02 PM
Aight cool it ya'll, I dont want this to get outta hand, jus stop it now, the debate is all based on misunderstanding and sterotyping, I dont want this topic to be fucked up, so chill

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:08:17 PM
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i don't tink trauma ruined this board.....if anything he made it BETTER


i mean (no diss ) but this forum is HEAVILY muslum biased, and it seems if anyone brings another perspective Tech lables them as brainwashed in an heavily muslum saturated infinate post.


i think different perspectives and examinations of other religions are GREAT for this forum, becuase if we left it 'Muslum Dominated' (i don't know if this is the word i want to use but...whatever) this baord and the people here would get self absorbed in their set beliefs.


i dunno why i'm throwing this in but this is another thing that seperates Christianity and Islam in the world. Christianity/Catholosism openly allows and welcomes peeps to question it and intricatly examine it while in A LOT of Muslum nations you can get capped for even quetioning it in the slightest


it's about perspective y'all


Yes, but he was the first to make it personal.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:09:17 PM
A member of the Taliban.  You support his taliban views, LOL.  You support him, knowingly allowing his parents to be killed.

They weren't, but he told americans that they should watch out, he was told america would be destroyed, and supported that.  

Again, what are you thinking?

Take my personal invitation, to get out of the country.  Because you're dangerous to us.  You support organizations that want to kill me.  Please leave.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Don Jacob on April 18, 2002, 10:09:57 PM
how? i thought it was a cleaver (and true) examination, which, doggystylin even admitted to
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:12:04 PM
Trauma is a bad Mormon.

Jake is a bad Christian.

^^^^ That's not a personal statement? that's an examination?  Yeah right.  It doesn't get more personal than that.  Give me a fuckin break, Jake.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:13:16 PM
My post was meant to show props to peaceful religions.

I left out islam, Judaism, and Christianity, because apparently, we're still struggling with being peaceful.

The point was, as I stated at first, and I guess flew over people heads, was that There are peaceful religions, particularly in India, that we can all learn from, and that since they have similar views as my religion, christianity, it gives me hope that peace can be achieved.

Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:14:10 PM
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A member of the Taliban.  You support his taliban views, LOL.  You support him, knowingly allowing his parents to be killed.

They weren't, but he told americans that they should watch out, he was told america would be destroyed, and supported that.  

Again, what are you thinking?

Take my personal invitation, to get out of the country.  Because you're dangerous to us.  You support organizations that want to kill me.  Please leave.  


Did he say this before or after the authorities blindfolded (there are pictures) tortured, and starved him? Do not judge John Walker, you are less of a man than he is, and farther from God.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:15:27 PM
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Trauma is a bad Mormon.

Jake is a bad Christian.

^^^^ That's not a personal statement? that's an examination?  Yeah right.  It doesn't get more personal than that.  Give me a fuckin break, Jake.


I never said you were a bad muslim.  You imagined that.  I said what I got from you was that Muslims are violent, support johnny walker, and kill innocent children.  If that's not what islam is about, then enlighten me with positivity, because so far, you bring only static.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Doggystylin on April 18, 2002, 10:16:08 PM
indians arent all that peacefull either, lol ;D

when i was in 4th grade one spit at me, so i tripped his ass and he fell on his face, lol

and look at sikhs and hindus in india, well muslims too, lol, their all fighting still, their killing eachother every other day, how can you say their at peace or whatever
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:16:55 PM
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Did he say this before or after the authorities blindfolded (there are pictures) tortured, and starved him, do not judge John Walker, you are less of a man than he is, and farther from God.


In the immortal words of Snoop, could you raise up off my nuts?

How much of a man am I? You know how much of a man I am, and I resent that you judge me like that, when I haven't judged you.  Must be a muslim thing, right?  That's one more example you showed me.  Again, bring the positivity.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Don Jacob on April 18, 2002, 10:17:36 PM
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Trauma is a bad Mormon.

Jake is a bad Christian.

^^^^ That's not a personal statement? that's an examination?  Yeah right.  It doesn't get more personal than that.  Give me a fuckin break, Jake.




actually it is a good examination my guy


i am a bad christian (i stive to be good though but i have no problem admitting i'm not jesus christ lol)

let's see


i jack off (i commit adultry)
i smoked bud yesturday (i gave into temptation)
i cuss (not honoring my mothe or father)
i'm jelous of my friend's Firbird (i'm covetting)

and probably a million other things


yes i'm  bad christian, i accept that , and i feel bad that i am, and the only thing i can do is try my best to strive to be better, which i am doing......give ME a break,lol
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:18:41 PM
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indians arent all that peacefull either, lol ;D

when i was in 4th grade one spit at me, so i tripped his ass and he fell on his face, lol

and look at sikhs and hindus in india, well muslims too, lol, their all fighting still, their killing eachother every other day, how can you say their at peace or whatever


Ah yes, Kashmir :)  At base, they are peaceful, I get that out of their religion, i'm just looking for someone to prove to me that Islam and Judaism and Christianity know how to be peaceful.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:21:00 PM
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I never said you were a bad muslim.  You imagined that.  I said what I got from you was that Muslims are violent, support johnny walker, and kill innocent children.  If that's not what islam is about, then enlighten me with positivity, because so far, you bring only static.  


Yes you did.  Now your telling lies, straight up.  Anyone can go back and see your post and see that.  You said, judging from me, us bad muslims Doggy and I, that Islam is bad.  I am a good muslim and so is Doggy.  My Imam would agree that I am a good Muslim.  The Imam at my mosque is much closer to God than you are.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:25:55 PM
I did NOT say that.  Quote me, I dont' care.  Just because your intellect can't properly read hypothetical statements, doesn't mean I'm insulting you.

I said, and I quote:

"I get my info from you.  You are my muslim contacts.  If you were good muslims, I would have an accurate representation of your religion, right?  Your religion supports lots of cussing, bombing the world trade center, hating jews, and suicide bombing israeli children.  That's all I've learned.  

Now, I'm sure that's not the case.  I'm sure Islam is a peaceful religion.  But my point is; you gotta work at it.  Bring positivity."

You're saying my representation of your religion is wrong, when everything I know of it, I received straight from you.  What you want to make of that, go ahead.  I see you cussing, talking about how cool John Walker is, Another one of you saying that Jews ruin america, and that's why muslims hate us, he also supposes that the entire muslim nation hates america, which means muslims hate me.  You tell me that Palestinians are justified in bombing friekin' BUSES with children on them in Israel.

My point is, again, if you can't figure it out, that you aren't showing me anyting, ANYTHING at all positive about Islam.  Now, you say islam isn't about that.  What does that make you?  I never said you were a bad muslim.  I said if you were good muslims, I would have an accurate representation of your religion.  You're the one who said I don't have an accurate representation, so what are you calling yourself.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: bLaDe on April 18, 2002, 10:30:04 PM
Once again RELIGON is not to blame, Trauma is gettin a bad impression of Muslims, Doggy has got a bad impression of Indians, iz sterotypin, not all indians r bad, not all muslims r bad.  DONT JUDGE a person, the race, religon or culture.  Religon was ment to create good, its ppl that are fuckin it up and giving it a bad name.  If your gonna talk about johnny walker, america, or politics, make a new thread, this thread is to promote the belif that religons are peaceful, and promote good.  Trauma didnt add Islam to the list because he himself admitted that he doesnt know much about the religon, and the muslims on the board represent Islam in his eyes.  Islam is a good religon, promoting peace and knowledge, much like other religons.  Shit like the taliban are giving it a bad name, so many ppl think it sucks..... Plus, i wouldnt go around callin someone a bad muslim, or a bad hindu as long as it aint effecting me and as long as i know the religon is pure.  And many ppl have figures, idols and icons, for e.g. I admire Hitler, cuz of his leadership qualities, etc...
So get this, if ya'll wanna debate over Johnny Walker, USA, the israel/palastine conflict, please make another thread, peace

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Doggystylin on April 18, 2002, 10:32:54 PM
see indians are fucked up, just look at blade, LOL ;D






lol jk homie, ya know me and my homie blackk are there for ya to attack ;)
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 18, 2002, 10:35:28 PM
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I did NOT say that.  Quote me, I dont' care.  Just because your intellect can't properly read hypothetical statements, doesn't mean I'm insulting you.



If you were good muslims


^^^ There it is.  Anyone with half a brain can see that you were eluding to the notion that I am a bad Muslim.  You couldn't be more wrong.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 18, 2002, 10:36:10 PM
Well Said, but when I see the taliban representing muslims; then see muslims on the board mad about Jonny walker, a taliban member... I associate muslims with talibans.  And since this is almost the ONLY thing they ever mention, how screwed UP america is, and How much they support Jonny Walker, and how much they support arafat, and he supports blowing up schoolchildren... What am I to think?  They tell me they hate my president.  They tell me they hate jews.  They tell me they hate my country.  They tell me that Jonny walker is better than me.  What kind of crap is that?  Friekin' haters man, all they do is bring negativity.  Look at this post.  It started off, by me, as a positive expression about a few religions.  Then it starts.  Muslims come in trippin. And that reinforces my views on them.

Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Doggystylin on April 18, 2002, 10:39:19 PM
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I admire Hitler, cuz of his leadership qualities
 -{bLaDe}


lmao really? me too man, lets chill and kick it together and discuss this topic tomorrow over some burritos and tacos i got goin here ;D

and to trauma, im a muslim too man, and do i go by what your describing as "muslims"
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 19, 2002, 05:20:36 AM
You told me muslims can't stand the jews running our country, so you tell me.  

Infinite, you're putting words in my mouth, never, at any time, did I say you were a bad muslim.  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Jay ay Beee on April 19, 2002, 08:49:48 AM
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Your religion supports lots of cussing, bombing the world trade center, hating jews, and suicide bombing israeli children.  That's all I've learned.




To my knowledge, most respectable practitioners of the Muslim faith express nothing but disgust about those issues, and don't hate jews.  

But obviously I'm not American so I can't comment on these things at the amazing level of knowledge and insight that you do
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Trauma-san on April 19, 2002, 10:30:47 AM
Well apparently you know more about it then me.  Don't be so sarcastic towards me, watch your tone.  Show respect.  I'm just saying what I see on the board.

Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Don Jacob on April 19, 2002, 01:00:02 PM
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To my knowledge, most respectable practitioners of the Muslim faith express nothing but disgust about those issues, and don't hate jews.  

But obviously I'm not American so I can't comment on these things at the amazing level of knowledge and insight that you do



seriously man ,  u r such an ass sometimes...theres ways of showing your thoughts on something without being so sarcastic and smart allecy, theres no need to be a pinche hue
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Jay ay Beee on April 19, 2002, 03:15:57 PM
Trauma: Why don't you come with something more than what you see on the board? I know your intelligent so I don't understand why you are all of a sudden coming with this one dimensional view of things?  I was absoloutely infuriated with some of the things I read today - you talk about spreading love but you haven't shown you are prepared to accept anyone with a different outlook on life, any one with problems (such as the drunk who lives opposite you) etc.  

Big Jake:  Can you understand why I am getting mad with Trauma's outlook?  I know you're also a patriot but I also know you're a smart cat, and surely you recognize that his current attitude towards these issues is silly.  

As for the sarcasm I guess that's my way, a lot of people in my normal life don't like how sarcastic I am, I gotta work on that, but I thought the comment about not being American was representative of Trauma's attitude towards me.

You both my homies remember, and nobody's cussing each other, and people can get on even if they believe in different things.

Safe  
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: infinite59 on April 19, 2002, 07:52:49 PM
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Trauma: Why don't you come with something more than what you see on the board? I know your intelligent so I don't understand why you are all of a sudden coming with this one dimensional view of things?  I was absoloutely infuriated with some of the things I read today - you talk about spreading love but you haven't shown you are prepared to accept anyone with a different outlook on life, any one with problems (such as the drunk who lives opposite you) etc.  

Big Jake:  Can you understand why I am getting mad with Trauma's outlook?  I know you're also a patriot but I also know you're a smart cat, and surely you recognize that his current attitude towards these issues is silly.  

As for the sarcasm I guess that's my way, a lot of people in my normal life don't like how sarcastic I am, I gotta work on that, but I thought the comment about not being American was representative of Trauma's attitude towards me.

You both my homies remember, and nobody's cussing each other, and people can get on even if they believe in different things.

Safe  

Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 19, 2002, 11:41:30 PM
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The best way to hide a lie is between two truths:


^word....it"z a very smart sentence...dat"z how sertain peepz nowdayz do brain-washin...and how other poeple re-interpret it as truth by lieing to themselves.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Instant_Killa on April 20, 2002, 09:39:49 AM
I think the media is controlling us to a large and possibly infinite extent. I dont think everything we see and hear is supposed to be true on tv or in the papers. Media folks often tend to hide certain facts and re-edit matters with their own shit.

Ive lived in Arab countries and I have experienced hate towards other religions, but thats just the people, not the religion.

Like Blade said, ppl fuck up religion. I think it was a natural process to diss and be against muslims after september 11, it just happens with humans, u cant stand something so u want to be against it, thats what i would do too, if i had to. People are too arrogant I think, they want to defend their pride to the extremes....If only people were peaceful and without that "Me first" or "I want it" attitude.

We all need to change and get along, accept our faults and get the fuck along. Some ppl don want it that way cause they cant stand it, that sux cause they don got the mental ability or havent been taught to, hence they resort to the most possible and occurent form of human response, which is violence.

We all need to change the way we grow our offspring to end this problem. Teach them to meditate, practice yoga or whatever and stay calm, thats how all the ppl of the world should follow, the future generation should be raised up like that, and then i believe there will be no or least violence and more peace and prosperity, since everyone would get along and co-exist, they would forget bout their religious diffeerences, thats when we will attain our motto "To co-exist with peace, and harmonize". I believe that in the future, a population of such kind could be attained, a mass of ppl that only believe in peace and harmony, a mass of ppl who do not practice arrogance, violence, hate, and who just get along and serve each other...that would be the earth i would want to live in. So i guess we are slowly , very slowly learning from our mistakes, and later in our next life, we shall learn to adapt and live in peace.

PEace


Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Quakaveli on March 30, 2003, 03:15:40 PM

LMAO@ 2 non-muslims bringing positivity while the 2 muslims brought negativity, sooo true sooo true :D

Islam=religion of peace...hahahahahaah. Just because Islam=peace in arabic??! LMAO Have you ever heard of a paradox? Im sure blade would love to explain the meaning of that word to you ;-)

PS> I miss that Infaggot-Trauma beef back in da day...haha

PPS> This great thread hasnt been touched since 4/20/02 8)
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Agua on March 30, 2003, 03:34:44 PM
A christian and a sikh brought positivity to this message, the muslims brought static.  What does that say?  

nothin.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Agua on March 30, 2003, 03:36:25 PM
I clearly left islam out, because I don't know the nature of islam.  All I see is negativity from some muslims on this board.  So I don't mention them.

But, what makes my heart soar, is the religions I see that are nothing BUT positive.  Look at india, for example, the good people of india are an inspiration to me.  

Notice I also left out the Jewish faith, but you convienantly overlooked that.  

Bring it positive, homie, it's possible, you know.  You don't have to hate everything.  

nice how you disguise prejudice under the veil of tolerance.
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Agua on March 30, 2003, 03:38:24 PM
So, it's alright if he only PARTIALLY supported the killing of my wife and children? Hardly.

He's taliban, he's the enemy.  Who are you standing for?  Us, or them?  Make a stand.  America has been looking for Osama bin Ladin for what, 10 years now?  And this guy has shook his HAND since then?  What are you thinking?



nice logic. by the way, christians don't think in terms such as us vs. them. there's just "we".
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: bow_down on March 31, 2003, 01:38:41 AM
Trauma Wayne your saying that religions in India are peaceful and your also saying Islam isnt but islam is indias second biggest religion and its also the country with the 2nd biggest muslim population in the world.
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: bow_down on March 31, 2003, 01:48:35 AM
and Trauma wayne if you think taliban represent Islam just because theyre the only muslims you know does that mean that when someone from an islamic country see the KKK on tv its alright for them to assume that is what christinaity is about???
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Quakaveli on April 05, 2003, 01:33:03 PM
Trauma Wayne your saying that religions in India are peaceful and your also saying Islam isnt but islam is indias second biggest religion and its also the country with the 2nd biggest muslim population in the world.

Have you heard of KASHMIR....it is in northern part of India, it is the only state that has a majority of muslims over hindus, sikhs, etc in all of India. Coincidentlly, it is also the state having a lot of problems, especially, and most related to, terrorism.

Have you heard the phrase, "One rotten apple spoils the whole group?"...well think about it. ;D
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: bow_down on April 05, 2003, 05:51:08 PM
The hindu muslim riot in India last year where 3000 people died did not happen in kashmir
Title: Re: Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2003, 08:40:22 PM
I admire Hitler, cuz of his leadership qualities, etc...


You admire Hitler? You admire how he brainwashed a whole nation and got them to kill 20 million human beings?...Damn, you need help...PeACe
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on April 05, 2003, 10:45:00 PM
Thats it, NIK, keep goin. Ahh, nothin beats watching Jews get angry over the Holocaust. Keep goin, that girl u cant get in class, blame it on the Holocaust!!!


Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2003, 10:59:25 PM
Thats it, NIK, keep goin. Ahh, nothin beats watching Jews get angry over the Holocaust. Keep goin, that girl u cant get in class, blame it on the Holocaust!!!



(http://ourworld.cs.com/DEEEEzzzz%20NuTz/Faghan.jpg)
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: pappy on April 05, 2003, 11:03:45 PM
not that im supporting hitler but many historians will tell u hitler was a great leader an b4 he started killin jews he was on his way to be one of the greatest german leaders of all time
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2003, 11:10:49 PM
not that im supporting hitler but many historians will tell u hitler was a great leader an b4 he started killin jews he was on his way to be one of the greatest german leaders of all time


Yea, Hitler was a great leader...The reason he was a great leader was because he was good at brainwashing people...But that's no reason whatsover to admire some one...PeACe
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: pappy on April 05, 2003, 11:14:51 PM
not that im supporting hitler but many historians will tell u hitler was a great leader an b4 he started killin jews he was on his way to be one of the greatest german leaders of all time


Yea, Hitler was a great leader...The reason he was a great leader was because he was good at brainwashing people...But that's no reason whatsover to admire some one...PeACe
i think u took what blade was sayin out of context.  I think he was jus tryin to say  that there are leadership qualities hitler displayed that could be admired cuz we both know blade pretty well an we kno he wouldnt admire adolf hitler.    but than again the whole peaceful thing may jus be front lol.  but hitler wasnt only a great leader cuz he could brainwash people.  He had so many social,political,  an econimic reforms.  he pulled the country out of a severe depression.  an there depression was worse than america's.  Hell they were burning german money cuz it wasnt worth shit.  Admit it or not Hitler was a great leader
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Quakaveli on April 06, 2003, 09:24:41 PM
The hindu muslim riot in India last year where 3000 people died did not happen in kashmir

LIKE I SAID..One rotten apple spoils the bunch....
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: Quakaveli on April 06, 2003, 09:26:27 PM
Thats it, NIK, keep goin. Ahh, nothin beats watching Jews get angry over the Holocaust. Keep goin, that girl u cant get in class, blame it on the Holocaust!!!



(http://ourworld.cs.com/DEEEEzzzz%20NuTz/Faghan.jpg)

LMAO!!!!!!!!  :D

that was good man, PROPS!
Title: Re:Peaceful Religion~
Post by: bLaDe on April 06, 2003, 09:34:51 PM
not that im supporting hitler but many historians will tell u hitler was a great leader an b4 he started killin jews he was on his way to be one of the greatest german leaders of all time


Yea, Hitler was a great leader...The reason he was a great leader was because he was good at brainwashing people...But that's no reason whatsover to admire some one...PeACe
i think u took what blade was sayin out of context.  I think he was jus tryin to say  that there are leadership qualities hitler displayed that could be admired cuz we both know blade pretty well an we kno he wouldnt admire adolf hitler.    but than again the whole peaceful thing may jus be front lol.  but hitler wasnt only a great leader cuz he could brainwash people.  He had so many social,political,  an econimic reforms.  he pulled the country out of a severe depression.  an there depression was worse than america's.  Hell they were burning german money cuz it wasnt worth shit.  Admit it or not Hitler was a great leader

Very true.

  -{bLaDe}