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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: MANBEARPIG. on March 18, 2004, 03:31:22 PM
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seriously, seems like they are getting a bad rep here, so what are some of ya'll reasons for having a negative view towards backpack hip-hop? Is it a thing that most of them are white or what? I'd like to know.
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no. its because they think they know more than everyone else and turn their noses up at whats not 'in'
in reality i think there are 2 types of backpackers.. those who are truely backpackers.
and fake fashion kiddie groupies. fuck em.
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check my sig... I think they are ruining hip hop...SPittin suburbs shit
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how do you classify someone as a 'backpacker' ? always wondered that. is it by music/attitude, or simply cause they carry a backpack?
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^^ its simply because they are white, dont have poppy beats, and arent in the mainstream...how else would u explain terms like "nerd rap" when people talk about atmosphere...who was it..i cant remember the mf but somebody said on here a few weeks ago "i can't stand fuckin space rap...fuck slug" or some shit like that...well if you can find me one line from slug that qualify's as space rap then ill stfu and agree w/ u.
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Nothing
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Fuckin' Luke. Stop trying to claim all Backpackers are white. You're a lame when it comes to this shit homie. C'mon man, always trying to paint it like Whites catch all the flack.
Cats like Busdriver, Mr. Lif, Brother Ali, MF Doom, Madlib, Murs, Hiero, Riddlore etc. I consider Backpackers. Let me clue you into a little secret young Luke. They're Black. But, yo, you didn't hear that from me. We ALL know that Backpackers are White. ::)
Most Backpack cats come with weak voices, have a limited amount of topics(mainly focus on Battle Raps and nothing else), they detest ALL mainstream music and various other lame things. For the most part, it's not the Backpack rappers, it's the fans. Just like in any case, the fans ALWAYS give a bad rap to the artists. Backpack Rap fans are horrible.
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Fuckin' Luke. Stop trying to claim all Backpackers are white. You're a lame when it comes to this shit homie. C'mon man, always trying to paint it like Whites catch all the flack.
Cats like Busdriver, Mr. Lif, Brother Ali, MF Doom, Madlib, Murs, Hiero, Riddlore etc. I consider Backpackers. Let me clue you into a little secret young Luke. They're Black. But, yo, you didn't hear that from me. We ALL know that Backpackers are White. ::)
Most Backpack cats come with weak voices, have a limited amount of topics(mainly focus on Battle Raps and nothing else), they detest ALL mainstream music and various other lame things. For the most part, it's not the Backpack rappers, it's the fans. Just like in any case, the fans ALWAYS give a bad rap to the artists. Backpack Rap fans are horrible.
most of the artists you listed don't have a bad rep on this board at all...its artists like atmosphere, buck 65, sage francis, etc...that get a bad rep...now lemme clue you in on something...their white!
im not saying people are racist im just saying that for the most part there is the conception in hip hop that white guys dont have what it takes to rap unless they bring some poppy shit (eminem, bubba sparxxx, eamon)
if people wanna call the artists you listed backpackers then cool...thats all good...i dont belive in using Sub-Genre's (if thats a word)...but whatever some people do. what i hate is when people say shit thats totally ignorant like "I hate Space rap"...these are also the same people who love canibus. most of the backpacking shit is nowhere near "Space Rap" or "Nerd Rap"
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I agree with SGV, the artists are fine. I hate the Backpack fans. They're just fuckin losers.
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Take out Murs and Hiero. The rest are rarely talked about here. They don't have a bad rep because they don't have much of a rep, period. Atmosphere is brought up often, that's why they got a bad rep. Sage Francis, I rarely see his name here. Buck 65, too(you're the only one bringing that cat up). Stop trying to make this a race thing man. You're on some lame shit.
White boys who can bust: Paul Wall, 3rd Bass, Beastie Boys, Sav C, Mista CaNe, Bubba Sparxxx, Eminem, Copywrite. There's more, but I'm not even gonna list them all. Stop fuckin' crying, emo-ass muthafucka. I thought I told you to man the fuck up. No wonder you bump Atmosphere.
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Take out Murs and Hiero. The rest are rarely talked about here. They don't have a bad rep because they don't have much of a rep, period. Atmosphere is brought up often, that's why they got a bad rep. Sage Francis, I rarely see his name here. Buck 65, too(you're the only one bringing that cat up). Stop trying to make this a race thing man. You're on some lame shit.
White boys who can bust: Paul Wall, 3rd Bass, Beastie Boys, Sav C, Mista CaNe, Bubba Sparxxx, Eminem, Copywrite. There's more, but I'm not even gonna list them all. Stop fuckin' crying, emo-ass muthafucka. I thought I told you to man the fuck up. No wonder you bump Atmosphere.
why you comin with this emo ass mothafucka shit? you know damn well i like all types of music. i like the so-called back pack hip hop...i also listen to warren g, r. kelly, sublime, usher, korn, disturbed, paul oakenfold, wyclef, REM, and Red hot chili peppers...i dont think that makes me an "emo ass muthafucka"...considering i listen to everything.
the fact is its harder for a white dude to make it in rap than it is for a black dude...its harder for a latino dude to make it in rap than it is for a black dude...and probably a white dude. the fact is in rap black is accepted...everything else is analyzed horribly...probably the same reason that ice cube can make "cave bitch" and be cool but eminem makes a song about an ex-girlfriend and he's automatically the leader of the KKK
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to say somethin like "no wonder your not man enough, you listen to atmosphere", is just straight up stupid and childish as fuck
"no wonder your in jail for fuckin a 14 year old, you listen to r kelly" ::)
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to say somethin like "no wonder your not man enough, you listen to atmosphere", is just straight up stupid and childish as fuck
"no wonder your in jail for fuckin a 14 year old, you listen to r kelly" ::)
LMFAO
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Read this Doggy, it's about you, too.------> You're an emo-ass muthfucka because you're gettin' emotional, not based on your music. You show female traits man. Make sure you still packin' because sometimes it don't seem like it.
In rap, today, it's very easy for a White to make it. White rappers are in style. Paint Eminem black, he's Chino XL, Pharoahe Monch, Ras Kass. Paint one of them White, they're Eminem. It's that simple. Listen to what Murs said man:
"I feel I should have the same scans the White rappers have/It's sad, but that's the way it is/What's the reason that my album doesn't sell like his?/Don't front like you don't know why the hell that is/It's because he's white, you can relate to his face/Through the years you been taught that black is unsafe/Plus it's only natural for you own to be imbraced/Conscious or Sub-Conscious you can't say that ain't the case/Only reason it took so long to take place was, up until now your only choice was 3rd Bass/For others like Ice wasn't reall that tight/Now you got some white dudes who can truely rock the mic/You relate to those stories cuz you share that past...."
And remember, Hip Hop was started by Blacks. It is still considered Black music. It's like going to a KKK rally and bashing whites because they're bashing blacks. Who's the idiot? The one bashing the whites, why? Because you should know your surroundings. If you're doing Black music, the term "Nigger" shouldn't leave your lips. It's senseless. A majority of Minorities don't give a mad fuck if someone is racist towards Whites for the fact that Whites were racist towards us. That's why Cube can make "Cave Bitch" and Em can't say the "N-Word."
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lmao when did this line come into play:
Minorities don't give a mad fuck if someone is racist towards Whites for the fact that Whites were racist towards us.
last i knew you werent black bud so stop acting like you are. the fact is when it comes to white people in rap theres a double standard. the only way for a white person in rap to succeed is to do something horribly radio friendly. think about their breakthrough hits:
Eminem - My Name Is
Bubba Sparxxx - Ugly
Eamon - Fuck It (I Don't Want You Back)
all of them got played more times in a day than most black rappers get played in a week. if you're white the only way to succeed in rap is to have a poppy ass single that will play on the radio.
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i read that, and you had some points in there, but all 4 paragraphs mean nothing to me. im not even in this argument, i just came in to point out something stupid you said, simple as that, im not mad or happy, i just simply dont give a fuck. i can care less what you think of the music i listen to, if i like it, im gonna listen to it man. you might suggest somethin to me and ill check it, but if i dont like it, i dont go out writing essays about how horrible it is, i just leave it alone. now keep that emo callin shit out of my face.
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LMFAO @ i show female traits...ok lets think about this...i show female traits why? because i get emotional over stuff...umm...hey buddy...THATS HUMAN TRAITS! you look like bubba sparxxx and i dont call you a "fat trailer ass muthafucka"
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lmao when did this line come into play:
Minorities don't give a mad fuck if someone is racist towards Whites for the fact that Whites were racist towards us.
last i knew you werent black bud so stop acting like you are.
Minorities homie. Who mentioned blacks? You. I brought up Minorities. That's what I am. And that's who started Hip Hop. Blacks and Puerto Ricans. C'mon.
the fact is when it comes to white people in rap theres a double standard. the only way for a white person in rap to succeed is to do something horribly radio friendly. think about their breakthrough hits:
Eminem - My Name Is
Bubba Sparxxx - Ugly
Eamon - Fuck It (I Don't Want You Back)
all of them got played more times in a day than most black rappers get played in a week. if you're white the only way to succeed in rap is to have a poppy ass single that will play on the radio.
Eamon is Rap? LMAO. Due, stop!!!! The fact is "Ugly" was far from "horribly radio friendly." The beat was sick, it wasn't on some "Real Slim Shady"/"Country Grammar" shit. It wasn't anything that people would label as "generic" or "poppy." Fact is, Nelly, Snoop, Jay, Chingy, J.Kwon, all these BLACK artists come with generic radio friendly tracks and blow up. When they drop tracks that aren't radio friendly, they fail. The fact is Lucas, you have to bring a Radio Friendly track to blow up, black or white.
Man, usually, I'm the one saving you in threads. I guess Doggy is trying to play Captain Save A Hoe tonight. I said that statement because Luke seems to always be whining about this thing and that thing, it's emotional. Since you're not apart of this convo, Doggy, don't try to be.
I'm proud to look like a succesful rapper, as opposed to a Disney character. Goofy ass foo.
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man, i said what i wanted to, just deal with it man, why do you have to make a big deal out of everything, if i have somethin to say then ima say it, and i dont know how you see this thread, but i think your the one gettin emotional callin me a captain, lol
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lmao when did this line come into play:
Minorities don't give a mad fuck if someone is racist towards Whites for the fact that Whites were racist towards us.
last i knew you werent black bud so stop acting like you are.
Minorities homie. Who mentioned blacks? You. I brought up Minorities. That's what I am. And that's who started Hip Hop. Blacks and Puerto Ricans. C'mon.
the fact is when it comes to white people in rap theres a double standard. the only way for a white person in rap to succeed is to do something horribly radio friendly. think about their breakthrough hits:
Eminem - My Name Is
Bubba Sparxxx - Ugly
Eamon - Fuck It (I Don't Want You Back)
all of them got played more times in a day than most black rappers get played in a week. if you're white the only way to succeed in rap is to have a poppy ass single that will play on the radio.
Eamon is Rap? LMAO. Due, stop!!!! The fact is "Ugly" was far from "horribly radio friendly." The beat was sick, it wasn't on some "Real Slim Shady"/"Country Grammar" shit. It wasn't anything that people would label as "generic" or "poppy." Fact is, Nelly, Snoop, Jay, Chingy, J.Kwon, all these BLACK artists come with generic radio friendly tracks and blow up. When they drop tracks that aren't radio friendly, they fail. The fact is Lucas, you have to bring a Radio Friendly track to blow up, black or white.
Man, usually, I'm the one saving you in threads. I guess Doggy is trying to play Captain Save A Hoe tonight. I said that statement because Luke seems to always be whining about this thing and that thing, it's emotional. Since you're not apart of this convo, Doggy, don't try to be.
I'm proud to look like a succesful rapper, as opposed to a Disney character. Goofy ass foo.
ugly was horribly radio friendly...i still can't stand that track and i havent heard it in a year or two. tracks that arent radio friendly fail?
Jay-Z - What More Can I Say?
DMX - Ruff Ryders Anthem
Nelly - Country Grammar
i dont consider those radio friendly tracks...country grammer was pretty damn gangsta if you listen to the lyrics. i didnt consider ruff ryders anthem radio friendly when i first heard it...i never thought it would blow like it did...i still dont consider anything on the black album radio friendly except the two songs done by the neptunes.
some other artists who put out tracks regularly that arent radio friendly and still sell:
Nas, Wu-Tang, Ice Cube, Busta (or used to), Dr. Dre, Wyclef
everyone of these artists has had singles be succesful from tracks that were not radio friendly.
i consider eamon R&B but i was generalizing him in there because he's the only white R&B singer i know of.
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Doggy: Don't concern yourself if you don't want to be belittled. Simple as that. Move on.
Lucas: Nobody listened to the "Country Grammar" lyrics. Why? Because the beat was "poppy" and it sounded like a riddle.
"What More Can I Say" has an "R & B"-ish hook, which in todays Hip Hop world, is "pop" and or "radio friendly."
"Ruff Ryders Anthem" had a very catchy hook, which makes it "radio friendly."
You're bringing up Dre and Cube like they've released any new Solos lately. All of Cubes last singles have been "Radio friendly." In the Early to Mid 90s shit was different.
When was the last Wu successful single?
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shit nigga....
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When was the last Wu successful single?
2001 w/ Uzi
not that long ago...sorry bud ::)
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LMAO! Yea, that track was EVERYWHERE buddy! I remember turning on the radio and hearing it everyday. I remember TRL retiring the video. I remember that track being on 106 n Park everyday!! LMAO. Really man? Are you serious? I'm questioning your knowledge now man.
After that horrible comment, I'm bouncing. LMAO. Step ya game up Lucas.
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lmao when did this line come into play:
Minorities don't give a mad fuck if someone is racist towards Whites for the fact that Whites were racist towards us.
last i knew you werent black bud so stop acting like you are. the fact is when it comes to white people in rap theres a double standard. the only way for a white person in rap to succeed is to do something horribly radio friendly. think about their breakthrough hits:
Eminem - My Name Is
Bubba Sparxxx - Ugly
Eamon - Fuck It (I Don't Want You Back)
all of them got played more times in a day than most black rappers get played in a week. if you're white the only way to succeed in rap is to have a poppy ass single that will play on the radio.
Jesus christ dude, do you ever know what you are talking about? The only way for anyone to succeed in rap, regardless of color or race is to make something horribly radio friendly. THATS HOW THEY BECOME SUCCESSFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Name me one black rapper that has come out since 2000 that has been successful without any wack ass commercial sellout crap on the radio, or because they were brought up by someone huge such as dre, snoop, eminem, jay z etc, and even then they still usually have a lot of super radio friendly tracks. Now I ain't sayin everything on the radio is crap, but 95% of the new rap on the radio today is crap imo.
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alright then fuck the radio lets go this route...theres different levels of success too...i would say you guys have proved me wrong on the radio part so fuck it...im cool with it. but then you got artists like royce da 59, common, fredro starr, mos def, noreaga, mobb deep, sticky fingaz, etc...who sell enough units to keep them set for life...they may not be all over the radio but they are still successful.
then you got a ton of underground rappers who arent doin shit...sure theres a ton of black underground rappers not doin shit either...but there are no rappers that are white that are in the category of artists i listed above.
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LMAO. Luke, what's your deal? Paul Wall, King J.C., Haystak, El-P, Copywrite, High & Mighty, Cage, and tons more. I can go on for days. These are all White rappers who do well. They got a good fan base, they stay releasing material like the Black rappers you named. Just stop.
Now I'm going to sleep.
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LMAO. Luke, what's your deal? Paul Wall, King J.C., Haystak, El-P, Copywrite, High & Mighty, Cage, and tons more. I can go on for days. These are all White rappers who do well. They got a good fan base, they stay releasing material like the Black rappers you named. Just stop.
Now I'm going to sleep.
dude all those guys are underground as hell.
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Oh the real, it's just as hard for blacks as it is for whites. You need to stop this argument because you are not getting now where. You can never understand what you are arguing, and honestly, you need to claim the fuck down.
Lets look at this. Vanilla Ice, Beastie Boys, Eminem, all more famous than what the times call for. For blacks to be famous, they too have to sell their souls to the lable. Xzibit wasn't platnum until Restless, Nas with If I Rule The World, DMX was all over the place before he came out and created his own buzz with being on Bad Boy songs. Ma$e was a sell out, and most every platnum black artist now had to sell out. You going to tell me Busta Rhymes first solo single wasn't radio friendly, Whooha Got You All In Check. Black artist can't sell without a catchy hook, and a video full of naked girls. They sold out the art to sell. We can get into a deep, deep racial discusion on just that alone. but honestly, don't waste your time, because you can never understand. I'll leave you with this, most backpackers I know are black college students, with Asians coming in at a close second. Most like rappers like Canibus, like Atmosphere, like Royce, like Murs, like Common, Mos Def, and hell, many like Kanye West now who is a backpack rapper that has radio friendly singles like Slow Jam. You can never fully know the argument you take because the battle in hip-hop has never been about white vs black. Hip-hop is a universal race culture. The battle is between real and sell out. Until you realize that, you can never understand the true battle in hip-hop. Peace.
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saying blacks had to sell their soul is retarded considering blacks started hip hop. every white rapper that has ever come into rap has caught a load of shit for being white. the beasties dont make music very often anymore...vanilla ice was corny as fuck and im glad he doesnt rap anymore, eminem will probably be washed up sooner than we think.
even white rap fans catch crap....where i live most people listen to either country or rock...i listen to everything but people focus in on the fact that i love rap and they act like im some fuckin wigger...the fact is in today's society its becoming unnacceptable to rap or even listen to rap if your white.
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Paul Wall: Has been offered deals by Def Jam and other major labels. He's staying indi.
King J.C.: Has released over 15 albums. Who can say that?
Haystak: On Def Jam South
El-P: Owns one of the most successful Underground labels
Copywrite: Given the chance, he could blow up. He needs to grind more.
High & Mighty: Been on MTV/BET before. Are apart of another successful Underground label.
Cage: Has had his name shouted by Eminem.
You're just reaching man. The blacks cats you named have been in the game FOR YEARS. They were putting in much work to get where they're at. I don't see why you're trying to make this an issue. Face it, you're just bringing anything to plead your case, but it ain't working.
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I don't know where you come from man but everyone from around here listens to hip hop and excepts it. Even the abercrombie kids...
The Demigodz are underground and are not Nerd Rap IMO..
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The Demigodz are underground and are not Nerd Rap IMO..
lol, i agree
some called me a backpacker at times cause i listen to shitloadsa backpack rap, alltho my favorite group isn't at all backpack (tha Alkaholiks) alltho i do not like 95% of mainstream rap NOW, i loove to listen to that early - mid 90s mainstream hip-hop, to me it's as good as some underground rap now
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oh and btw
the word backpacker was originally given to schoolkids (who were wearing backpacks) who started trading (underground) rap-tapes that they carried around in their backpack
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LMAO @ luke
nellys country gramma gangsta ROTFLMAO
and you laugh that i like 50 cent
atleaste 50 cent is a real gangsta
and his albums and mixtapes contain real gangsta tracks
so yea he has a few love jams but you cant compare
50 to ja rule or other "poppy" artists because first off
he does those types of songs the right way
and secondly he doesnt release 10 love songs
and only 3 gangsta tracks
also some of those artists you mentiond ARE
back pack MC's and im tired of this
"fuck the mainstream!" BS
alot of songs that get radio play and on mtv
are songs that are GOOD MUSIC
fuck hi complex lyrics and always having to
"Keep it real" yararararara the music is good
and if it wasnt the masses wouldnt buy it hip hop fans and
"Pop" fans wouldnt by it if they didnt like the music
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LMAO @ luke
nellys country gramma gangsta ROTFLMAO
and you laugh that i like 50 cent
atleaste 50 cent is a real gangsta
and his albums and mixtapes contain real gangsta tracks
so yea he has a few love jams but you cant compare
50 to ja rule or other "poppy" artists because first off
he does those types of songs the right way
and secondly he doesnt release 10 love songs
and only 3 gangsta tracks
also some of those artists you mentiond ARE
back pack MC's and im tired of this
"fuck the mainstream!" BS
alot of songs that get radio play and on mtv
are songs that are GOOD MUSIC
fuck hi complex lyrics and always having to
"Keep it real" yararararara the music is good
and if it wasnt the masses wouldnt buy it hip hop fans and
"Pop" fans wouldnt by it if they didnt like the music
wow you took everything i said totally out of context...read the whole convo first you ass. i never said "fuck the mainstream"...i listen to the mainstream you asshole. nelly's lyrics in that song were gangsta dumbass...fuckin read em. i also never said 50 did poppy love songs...honestly 21 questions i really enjoyed so i could care less if he does poppy songs. don't take my shit out of context bitch.
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HA @ this herb
You mad son ? why you mad?
GGGGGG G UNIT
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HA @ this herb
You mad son ? why you mad?
GGGGGG G UNIT
yeah that was wierd lol...i kinda blew up
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Are you guys forgetting about Necro & Non-Phixion? They own the New York underground scene...Anyways, music is music...If it's dope, it's dope...Arguing over whether it's dope or not is pointless, and that's all there is to it...PeACe
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Luke, I'ma be strate up, The reason why Backpack Rap gets hated on is becuase of people like U......let it go, yur argument is pointless......U would not win in court......
U bump backpack shit in the hood and you'll get clowned, why? cuzz of the fans, they've made it lame......
U can call artists like Paul Wall, Atmosphere, Necro etc "underground as hell", but TRUTH is they are cashing in more money than alot of mainstream cats.....U gotta understand the game 1st before U make these bold statements.....There are many different routes to success in tha music business, tha average fan has no clue what that means.....
U talk about how in today's society it is becoming unacceptable to rap or listen to rap if you are white......WHAT? cmon mane, wat in tha name of FUC are U talkin about? U gotta be kidding me, what kinda hicksville U from? Do U ever get out there? I mean if you're really interested as U seem about topics like this, then I suggest U get the square your world is in and go out and explore what's really goin on in SOCIETY.
Basically, the media & the loyal fans shape the general public's opinions and views.....It blows my mind the amount of ignorance there is, but there's no changing that.....We gotta understand 99% of all people are not in the game seeing what's really happenin, 99% of people are not fans that go in deep and explore what's crackin like alot of cats on WCC.....so U can't really blame tha general public.....It's the media and those loyal fans that brainwash the rest into thinking 1 way without researching.....The loyal fans to backpack acts are the LAMEST out of all therefore get lil to no respect by tha rest.....But we can't judge em either.....I like alot of backpack shit, the concious portions of some of they albums, but for the most part, I could care less about em and U won't catch me bumpin something like that out tha trunk.....Put it this way, U might be feeling the new B2K single, U bump it at home, groove to it or wuteva u do, but would U bump that out loud somewhere? Ofcourse every man has to be an individual......but we live by most society standards, if U like to believe that or not, dats up to U......But don't let the media fool U.....
Make sure 2 give EVERYTHING a chance at tha least......U take a cat like Cassidy for example, he gettin a bad rap by the ignorant because of his Hotel single, I heard this cat tha other day at a party callin him a commercial clown......but truth is, Cassidy has been a street LEGEND in Philly since he was 15 years old......He got a real impressive battle record, been freestyle champion in many tournys.....He has MADD flows.....but he CHOSE that route and did what he had 2 do.....don't hate, congrajulate......I congrajulate every backback rapper's success but for the most part, I aint feelin em like that and they fans can stay away from me......
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I like a lot of backpacker rap. For instance, I like Atmosphere and I don't think they're any more out there on the "space rap" level then let's say, Outkast or Ghostface. I like a lot of Del's and Hiero's material and I was checking for Dilated Peoples, J5 and the Roots way before most heads had even heard of them. The thing is, the fans of backpacker rap get justifiably, a lot of flack and to be totally honest, these group of fans have gotten under my skin for over 10 years.
I used to be active in the underground scene when I was around 18 or 19 and this would be from 93-95 and these cats would hate on anyone who dared to sell more than 100,000 units. They would proclaim that so and so isn't real hip hop even if that person spoke on some real shit or paid dues. That type of thinking got on my nerves big time. A lot of these cats were suburban new jacks who were ignorant to the roots and the history of hip hop. To say that someone who comes from the streets and is from the streets is not real but then proclaim that some nice guy rapper is more real completely disregards why hip hop was started in the first place. I think this way of thinking was really summed up in Common's "I Used to Love Her" and his whiny diatribe was embraced by backpackers everywhere.
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Luke, I'ma be strate up, The reason why Backpack Rap gets hated on is becuase of people like U......let it go, yur argument is pointless......U would not win in court......
court? this is a hip hop arguement...not murder...anways i have nothing to do with why so called backpack rap has a bad rep...i dont even believe in calling it backpack rap...its music just like everything else. i listen to everything not just backpack rap and you know that. today alone i bumped boo ya tribe in the morning, sisqo in the afternoon, and some old common on my way home...i am in no way a backpacker.
U bump backpack shit in the hood and you'll get clowned, why? cuzz of the fans, they've made it lame......
1)...i dont bump anything in the hood, 2) why worry about what other people in the hood think...be your own person.
U can call artists like Paul Wall, Atmosphere, Necro etc "underground as hell", but TRUTH is they are cashing in more money than alot of mainstream cats.....U gotta understand the game 1st before U make these bold statements.....There are many different routes to success in tha music business, tha average fan has no clue what that means.....
i have no doubt that they are making more money than a lot of mainstream artists...but they are still a hell of a lot more underground than someone like royce or raekwon.
U talk about how in today's society it is becoming unacceptable to rap or listen to rap if you are white......WHAT? cmon mane, wat in tha name of FUC are U talkin about? U gotta be kidding me, what kinda hicksville U from? Do U ever get out there? I mean if you're really interested as U seem about topics like this, then I suggest U get the square your world is in and go out and explore what's really goin on in SOCIETY.
its just as unnaceptable in a town like this one to listen to rap as it is for you to bump britney spears in the hood. simple as that.
Basically, the media & the loyal fans shape the general public's opinions and views.....It blows my mind the amount of ignorance there is, but there's no changing that.....We gotta understand 99% of all people are not in the game seeing what's really happenin, 99% of people are not fans that go in deep and explore what's crackin like alot of cats on WCC.....so U can't really blame tha general public.....It's the media and those loyal fans that brainwash the rest into thinking 1 way without researching.....The loyal fans to backpack acts are the LAMEST out of all therefore get lil to no respect by tha rest.....But we can't judge em either.....I like alot of backpack shit, the concious portions of some of they albums, but for the most part, I could care less about em and U won't catch me bumpin something like that out tha trunk.....Put it this way, U might be feeling the new B2K single, U bump it at home, groove to it or wuteva u do, but would U bump that out loud somewhere? Ofcourse every man has to be an individual......but we live by most society standards, if U like to believe that or not, dats up to U......But don't let the media fool U.....
actually i would bump the new B2K single if i was feelin it...just as NIK said above...if its dope its dope and im gonna bump it nomatter who it is or where i am.
Make sure 2 give EVERYTHING a chance at tha least......U take a cat like Cassidy for example, he gettin a bad rap by the ignorant because of his Hotel single, I heard this cat tha other day at a party callin him a commercial clown......but truth is, Cassidy has been a street LEGEND in Philly since he was 15 years old......He got a real impressive battle record, been freestyle champion in many tournys.....He has MADD flows.....but he CHOSE that route and did what he had 2 do.....don't hate, congrajulate......I congrajulate every backback rapper's success but for the most part, I aint feelin em like that and they fans can stay away from me......
personally i like cassidy...hotel was dope...may not of been a lyrical masterpeice but it was dope. had a good feel. i have thought about picking his album up but i wanna hear some reviews on it first (from other rap fans...i hate critics)
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These kind of arguements are annoying. There's nothing wrong with *backpacker* hip hop as people here like to call it. And that's just it, there's nothing wrong with it just as thier is nothing wrong with artists who don't identify as part of that more independant group of rappers.
Every scene has it's wack shit, and it's ill shit.
Personally, i think artists who have been described here as *backpacker* *nerd rap* or whatever other buzz term, are in general alot more creative and talented than alot of more aboveground and popular acts.
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lmao sgv just shit on himself and his whole backpacker protest by actually putting a backpacker certified album in his sig, he has Murs in his sig, man sgv your one confused ass mothafucka
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lmao sgv just shit on himself and his whole backpacker protest by actually putting a backpacker certified album in his sig, he has Murs in his sig, man sgv your one confused ass mothafucka
Where was the protest idiot?
For the most part, it's not the Backpack rappers, it's the fans. Just like in any case, the fans ALWAYS give a bad rap to the artists. Backpack Rap fans are horrible.
Go back to suckin' on Krayzie Bone man, that seems to be your thing. It's obvious reading isn't.
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shut up dude, you go on and on about backpacker hip hop, you talked shit about and how its weak and its a whole bunch of pussys whining, and then you say oh its not the music its the fans and put murs in your sig, stick to lookin like a fool cause thats what you seem to be good at,lol
anyone who read this would see the irony in having murs in your sig
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shut up dude, you go on and on about backpacker hip hop, you talked shit about and how its weak and its a whole bunch of pussys whining, and then you say oh its not the music its the fans and put murs in your sig, stick to lookin like a fool cause thats what you seem to be good at,lol
anyone who read this would see the irony in having murs in your sig
I criticized Nerd Rap, not Backpack rap. This is really the only Murs album I've liked. Done lookin' dumb now?
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actually i dont really care, and i know your gonna drag this on for 3 more pages so fuck it, but yeah, that murs album doesnt come out til tomorrow, you DL it?, its got some hot tracks, my favs are
intro
trevor and them
freak these tales
hustle
i havent listened to the tracks after hustle
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All you gotta do is not get my words twisted and it's coo.
This album is banging. Quality over quanity. Murs sometimes reminds me of Aceyalone, which is sort of why I dig him. But, his other releases have lacked beats, picking 9th Wonder do to the whole album was a smart idea. I dig pretty much the whole thing.
At the moment, I've only DL'd it. I came up on some serious cash, so Friday I might go scoop up a gang of CDs, this album included.
Favorite jam has to be "And This Is For..."
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hey SGV...i noticed you had that Encore album in your sig...i saw that in sam goody the other day but i've never heard of the guy...is he good? what's he like?
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He's tight. He's from the Hiero camp. Like Hiero? You'll like him.
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He's tight. He's from the Hiero camp. Like Hiero? You'll like him.
oh shit yeah i love heiro...thanks.
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Yup.