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Title: Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 21, 2004, 08:56:42 PM
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/meast/03/21/yassin/vert.yassincu.ap.jpg)(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/meast/03/21/yassin/top.main.yassin.closeup.ap.jpg)

Hide the kids because its about to go down  :o

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(CNN) -- Hamas founder and spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was
killed in an apparent airstrike by Israeli forces Monday morning as he was being driven from a mosque, Hamas and Palestinian security sources told CNN.

Five others were killed in the strike, sources said.

Yassin's car and the cars carrying his bodyguards were hit by three rockets as they left the mosque after prayers.

Thousands of angry Palestinians gathered around his minutes after the attack, calling for revenge against Israel.

In September, Yassin, who used a wheelchair, was lightly wounded in an Israeli missile strike in Gaza City. At the time he vowed "jihad will continue."

Thousands of Palestinian Hamas supporters marched through the streets in support of Yassin after the strike last year.

Yassin founded Hamas in 1987, during the Palestinian intifada. Hamas is a fundamentalist Islamic organization whose military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, has carried out attacks on Israeli civilian and military targets. The U.S. State Department and Israel consider Hamas a terrorist organization.

An Israeli court convicted Yassin in 1989 of ordering Hamas members to kidnap and kill two Israeli soldiers.

He was sentenced to life in prison, but was freed in 1997 under the terms of a deal arranged by the late King Hussein of Jordan, who asked Israel to release Yassin in exchange for two Israeli Mossad agents, who attempted to assassinate Khalid Mishaal, a Hamas leader in Jordan.

The Palestinian Authority has placed Yassin under house arrest on a number of occasions since his release, most recently in December, 2001, after a series of terror attacks that killed 25 Israelis.

That detention triggered demonstrations and clashes with Palestinian police.

Yassin was born in 1938 in what was then the British mandate of Palestine. His family became refugees in Gaza during the violence that followed Israel's creation in 1948.

On September 15, twin suicide bombings jointly claimed by Hamas and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades killed 10 people in the Israeli port city of Ashdod.

Immediately after the terrorist bombings, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon canceled a planned meeting with Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei.

The scheduled talks were an attempt to revive the so-called "road map" to Mideast peace.

The plan, backed by the United States, European Union, United Nations and Russia, calls for steps by both sides aimed at ending the conflict and establishing an independent Palestinian state by 2005.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/21/yassin/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/21/yassin/index.html)
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Trauma-san on March 21, 2004, 09:22:12 PM
Fuck him.  
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: smerlus on March 21, 2004, 09:30:02 PM
it's a shame when terrorists can't even go for a nice sunday drive after praying to allah.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Trauma-san on March 21, 2004, 10:04:28 PM
I dunno why this is even newsworthy.  If anything, it oughta read "bastard finally gets sent to hell"
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 21, 2004, 10:13:33 PM
I dunno why this is even newsworthy.  If anything, it oughta read "bastard finally gets sent to hell"

lol I bet you don't know anything about Sheikh Ahmed Yassin other than the word terrorist  ;)

Here you go...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Ahmed_Yassin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Ahmed_Yassin)


Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 22, 2004, 12:52:56 AM
YAYYYY!
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: infinite59 on March 22, 2004, 05:49:02 AM
May Allah send his mercy and blessings upon the poor and oppressed people of Palestine dying everyday.  They appear weak and have little power against an Isreali force with tanks and bombs and control over major media outlets.  Bless brother Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and those who defend the oppressed people of this Earth.  La Hawla Quwata Illah Billah.  (There is no might or power except with Allah)
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Trauma-san on March 22, 2004, 06:01:27 AM
LOL  How much damage has this asshole done in the name of your religion?  You people that defend people like this are so fucking ignorant, it's amazing.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Rizzle on March 22, 2004, 07:55:42 AM
killing him was a bad move, its just gonna fuck the peace process up even more. it has recieved world wide condemnation with the exception of america funnily enough. america needs to change its policy towards israel and forget about those jewish lobbyists, israel wouldn't do half the shit it does if didn't know america was on their side.

btw Lebanon have responded by attacking israel military positions on their boarder, and that was just a couple of hours after.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: ARYC on March 22, 2004, 10:06:20 AM
"btw Lebanon have responded by attacking israel military positions on their boarder, and that was just a couple of hours after."

u make it sound like it was the Lebanese army when in fact it was the Hizzballah , they probably launched a couple of "Katiouchas"


but i wouldn't be too worried , what i love about my "arab brothers" is that they'll get worked up about something , they'll write speaches and go to protests screaming stuff like "jihad" and "death to Israel" then a couple of days later they'll forget all about it . there'll probably be a heavy number of suicide bombers in Palestine in the next couple of weeks then it'll die down as it always does
Most Arabs are all talk and very few actually do shit , and thank God for that
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Rizzle on March 22, 2004, 10:45:39 AM
sorry i didn't know much about that there wasn't much about it on the news.

but at the end of the day almost all of israel is on land either illegally siezed or baught illegally. for those who don't know Israel didn't even exist untill 1948 it was simply called palestine! where arabs had a definate majority, there were only a few jews there but not that many. The jews have basically taken what they want thru the use of force, taking away land which has belonged to palestine for a thousand years. It seems most ppl forget this, its no wonder they have to resort to suicide bombers when they face the more powerful jews in israel. Its a shame that the British had such a large hand in setting up Israel, its one of the dark points of our past.

on a side note this lost me over £500 today as share prices fell around the world and this news was a major factor in this, and in the last week n a half i lost a further £900 due to all the shit which has been going on. i hope it gets better soon.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Seer on March 22, 2004, 11:11:56 AM
so why does america support it while we condemn it?

because of the power of jews in american politics?
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 22, 2004, 02:54:03 PM
so why does america support it while we condemn it?

because of the power of jews in american politics?

Yes that and they need a strong ally in that area of the world.

Yeah the British Empire really fucked up on Israel/Palestine and Iraq/Kuwait.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 22, 2004, 03:16:09 PM

but i wouldn't be too worried , what i love about my "arab brothers" is that they'll get worked up about something , they'll write speaches and go to protests screaming stuff like "jihad" and "death to Israel" then a couple of days later they'll forget all about it . there'll probably be a heavy number of suicide bombers in Palestine in the next couple of weeks then it'll die down as it always does
Most Arabs are all talk and very few actually do shit , and thank God for that


 ::)
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on March 22, 2004, 03:54:49 PM
When the whole world (including the Arabs) turned their backs on Palestine, Shiekh Yassin stood up for them, the only one who fought back, so I could care less how he fought, way to go pigs, kill a crippled blind man.

I hope to God HAMAS strikes hard

RIP
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 22, 2004, 06:12:47 PM
sorry i didn't know much about that there wasn't much about it on the news.

but at the end of the day almost all of israel is on land either illegally siezed or baught illegally. for those who don't know Israel didn't even exist untill 1948 it was simply called palestine! where arabs had a definate majority, there were only a few jews there but not that many. The jews have basically taken what they want thru the use of force, taking away land which has belonged to palestine for a thousand years. It seems most ppl forget this, its no wonder they have to resort to suicide bombers when they face the more powerful jews in israel. Its a shame that the British had such a large hand in setting up Israel, its one of the dark points of our past.

on a side note this lost me over £500 today as share prices fell around the world and this news was a major factor in this, and in the last week n a half i lost a further £900 due to all the shit which has been going on. i hope it gets better soon.


The land was GIVEN to the Jews in 1948...Quit being so ignorant, don't you think the Jewish people need a home land? And saying it belonged to Palestinians for 1000 years is straight up bullshit...JEWS WERE THERE BEFORE PALESTINIANS WERE ANYWAYS, SO WHO SAID IT WAS PALESTINIAN LAND IN THE FIRST PLACE?...And Tech, you sick fuck, why are you wishing to see innocent children die? See, you'd never see the average Jew wishing death on innocence...If we strike, we go for the terrorists...They can't say the same, those fuckin' evil bastards. :-\
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Lincoln on March 22, 2004, 06:16:31 PM
Rest in peace to him, it's on now..... Bad move on Israel's part.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 22, 2004, 08:07:21 PM
sorry i didn't know much about that there wasn't much about it on the news.

but at the end of the day almost all of israel is on land either illegally siezed or baught illegally. for those who don't know Israel didn't even exist untill 1948 it was simply called palestine! where arabs had a definate majority, there were only a few jews there but not that many. The jews have basically taken what they want thru the use of force, taking away land which has belonged to palestine for a thousand years. It seems most ppl forget this, its no wonder they have to resort to suicide bombers when they face the more powerful jews in israel. Its a shame that the British had such a large hand in setting up Israel, its one of the dark points of our past.

on a side note this lost me over £500 today as share prices fell around the world and this news was a major factor in this, and in the last week n a half i lost a further £900 due to all the shit which has been going on. i hope it gets better soon.


The land was GIVEN to the Jews in 1948...Quit being so ignorant, don't you think the Jewish people need a home land? And saying it belonged to Palestinians for 1000 years is straight up bullshit...JEWS WERE THERE BEFORE PALESTINIANS WERE ANYWAYS, SO WHO SAID IT WAS PALESTINIAN LAND IN THE FIRST PLACE?...And Tech, you sick fuck, why are you wishing to see innocent children die? See, you'd never see the average Jew wishing death on innocence...If we strike, we go for the terrorists...They can't say the same, those fuckin' evil bastards. :-\

Sorry but your wrong on just about every point you hit.

You lost your land 2,000 years ago. Israel took most of the land by force with help from Western countries.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War)



Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 22, 2004, 08:48:22 PM
No, I'm not wrong...



Heyyyy!!! I HAVE AN IDEA!!!! Maybe the Mexican's can start suicide bombing California since they were here first!!
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Jome on March 22, 2004, 08:50:59 PM
Almost every nation condemned it, except U.S. and Australia.. hmmm.
Shit's about to go down now..
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 22, 2004, 09:02:13 PM
Why would you condemn the killing of a terrorist organization leader?
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: smerlus on March 22, 2004, 09:11:48 PM
Why would you condemn the killing of a terrorist organization leader?
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 22, 2004, 09:18:24 PM
Why would you condemn the killing of a terrorist organization leader?

Ariel Sharon is terrorist #1.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Trauma-san on March 22, 2004, 09:23:00 PM
It's because the world has gotten so fuckin' comfy, they've forgotten what got them there.  In the fucking dark ages, you wouldn't have protests and shit like this.  America was built on bloodshed and wars.  That's how it works.  they bitch about palestine was taken from them, but Israel was there in the first place, the palestinians took the shit via war.  In the 40's, the land was taken from the palestines and given to the israelis.  That's how it works.  If you have a problem with it, go to war.  Kill thousands of people, and perhaps you'll get control of the land.  

It's to the point, that a fucking TERRORIST ASSHOLE gets killed, and people mourn for him.  Why? because authority is always questioned.  Everybody thinks they can do it better, and everybody thinks that the prevaling notion or the ruling power must be wrong.  They think that it makes them intelligent to not accept truths and givens.  The Israelis appear to be in the right by killing a terrorist.  People like Tech and Inf and all these other clowns, though, think that it makes them more intelligent to not accept that given.  Things can't be what they seem, to them.  They have to concoct huge conspiracy theories that eventually swell so much that they encompass every aspect of their lives.  In their altered minds, Israel couldn't have been correct in killing a terrorist.  Actually, he probably wasn't even a terrorist to them.  Why? Because everybody THINKS he's a terrorist.  Therefore the intelligent thing, to them, is to assume that of course he's not.  He's actually just misunderstood.  He fought back 'the only way he knew how'.  


Break it down: their minds can't even decipher right from wrong, black from white, terrorism from war, innocence from guilt.  They have absolutely no comprehension of any truth, they only have their slanted view of everything as they see it: The opposite of the prevaliing belief.  They feel this is best, so that's what they go with.  It's almost like a sickness.  I guess when you break it down, it's ignorance.  Not just ignorance of knowledge, but just ignorance of ability, the ability to see clearly.

The man was a terrorist.  He's responsible, directly, for the deaths of countless numbers of whoever the fuck he could get killed, all for the sin of being born a different race.  He sends people strapped with bombs into buses with children, and women on them.  They don't care, they don't see clearly.  

And now we've got people praising him, and defending this coward fucking crippled pig.  I hope it pisses them off to know that the missle basically hit his ass square on, there wasn't even a full body left to bury of the cocksucker.  He got what has been coming his way for a long time, and what he gladly imparted with glee on thousands of innocents born a different race, and embracing a different religion.


All this falls on deaf ears; I don't even know why I waste my breath.  I'll just get called a bigot, or ignorant, or whatever other words they can think of to describe my clear head.  
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Jome on March 22, 2004, 09:42:46 PM
Why would you condemn the killing of a terrorist organization leader?


Beats me..

I think most people are worried about the aftermath.
They can kill Arafat now too, it won't make any difference, hell is still loose.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: smerlus on March 22, 2004, 09:47:18 PM

And now we've got people praising him, and defending this coward fucking crippled pig.  I hope it pisses them off to know that the missle basically hit his ass square on, there wasn't even a full body left to bury of the cocksucker.  He got what has been coming his way for a long time, and what he gladly imparted with glee on thousands of innocents born a different race, and embracing a different religion.


i don't know why but this paragraph gave me a hankerin for some beef-a-roni  ;D
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 22, 2004, 09:53:22 PM
Terrorism is a poors man army...the only way minority groups get things done.
Just like the Thirteen colonies used jungle warfare against British troops. Terrorism is a new type of warfare and has nothing to do about being a bad guy.

Bloodshed and wars that's how it works.  ;)


For example...attacks in Spain got Spanish troops pulled out of Iraq and helped the Socialist party take office.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Jome on March 22, 2004, 10:04:11 PM

For example...attacks in Spain got Spanish troops pulled out of Iraq


They was planning to pull them back either way, 90% of Spain wanted to pull them back before the attack..
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 22, 2004, 10:57:07 PM
Terrorism is a poors man army...the only way minority groups get things done.
Just like the Thirteen colonies used jungle warfare against British troops. Terrorism is a new type of warfare and has nothing to do about being a bad guy.

Bloodshed and wars that's how it works.  ;)


For example...attacks in Spain got Spanish troops pulled out of Iraq and helped the Socialist party take office.



Terrorism was made to kill innocent children at young ages...The army isn't.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Rizzle on March 23, 2004, 06:16:52 AM
^^^doesn't stop the israeli army

another thing add up the death counts israels army has killed TEN times the amount of palestinians compared to the amount of israelis died by the hand of palestinians every way you wanna look at it they got fucked.

NIK you have just shown your jewish ignorance to think palestinians just gave up their land out of the kindness of their hearts LOL
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Seer on March 23, 2004, 06:29:22 AM

they had the israeli foreign ministers spokesperson on channel 4 here last night (i love ch4 they take no shit)

he was talking on about how the terrorists kill innnocents everyday.. and john snow asked him if israel has a court of law where people get tried and the guy said "Of course" and he was then asked if killing a man who hadn't been tried in court is a terrorist act.. the guy flipped..

it seems to me that the situation its so fucked up now that neither side can see clearly.

Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 23, 2004, 06:33:15 AM
Read more comments @ D12WORLD

http://www.d12world.com/board/showthread.php?t=85351 (http://www.d12world.com/board/showthread.php?t=85351)
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Seer on March 23, 2004, 06:36:53 AM

hmm well with that "gamble" in that story i think israel fucked up big time..
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 23, 2004, 06:37:23 AM
Quote from: 8ch d12world
u're kiddin me ... ya they bomb theirselfs 'n kill 10 to 20 ppl .. u go 'n blow a whole fuckin city .. rape women ... kill kids ...
wut the fuck r u talkin 'bout ???

(http://www.zizooo.ws/gallery/40/128.jpg)
^^ now tell me thats not true  (N)

(http://www.pal-cpr.org/images/atfal%20i.jpg)
^^ talkin 'bout a boy with a gun ??? check this pic 1st ...

(http://www.pal-cpr.org/pictures/weekly30.jpeg)
^^ now tell me 'bout killing kids ...

(http://www.pal-cpr.org/images/pictures/weekly2066.jpeg)
^^ wut a fare battle ...
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'n there's much much more ...
'n wut 'bout wut happened 2 ( MOHAMED AL DORAH) ????

its a long subject ... 'n if u need more pix I can add more ...
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Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: infinite59 on March 23, 2004, 07:13:03 AM
It's because the world has gotten so fuckin' comfy, they've forgotten what got them there.  In the fucking dark ages, you wouldn't have protests and shit like this.  America was built on bloodshed and wars.  That's how it works.  they bitch about palestine was taken from them, but Israel was there in the first place, the palestinians took the shit via war.  In the 40's, the land was taken from the palestines and given to the israelis.  That's how it works.  If you have a problem with it, go to war.  Kill thousands of people, and perhaps you'll get control of the land.  

It's to the point, that a fucking TERRORIST ASSHOLE gets killed, and people mourn for him.  Why? because authority is always questioned.  Everybody thinks they can do it better, and everybody thinks that the prevaling notion or the ruling power must be wrong.  They think that it makes them intelligent to not accept truths and givens.  The Israelis appear to be in the right by killing a terrorist.  People like Tech and Inf and all these other clowns, though, think that it makes them more intelligent to not accept that given.  Things can't be what they seem, to them.  They have to concoct huge conspiracy theories that eventually swell so much that they encompass every aspect of their lives.  In their altered minds, Israel couldn't have been correct in killing a terrorist.  Actually, he probably wasn't even a terrorist to them.  Why? Because everybody THINKS he's a terrorist.  Therefore the intelligent thing, to them, is to assume that of course he's not.  He's actually just misunderstood.  He fought back 'the only way he knew how'.  


Break it down: their minds can't even decipher right from wrong, black from white, terrorism from war, innocence from guilt.  They have absolutely no comprehension of any truth, they only have their slanted view of everything as they see it: The opposite of the prevaliing belief.  They feel this is best, so that's what they go with.  It's almost like a sickness.  I guess when you break it down, it's ignorance.  Not just ignorance of knowledge, but just ignorance of ability, the ability to see clearly.

The man was a terrorist.  He's responsible, directly, for the deaths of countless numbers of whoever the fuck he could get killed, all for the sin of being born a different race.  He sends people strapped with bombs into buses with children, and women on them.  They don't care, they don't see clearly.  

And now we've got people praising him, and defending this coward fucking crippled pig.  I hope it pisses them off to know that the missle basically hit his ass square on, there wasn't even a full body left to bury of the cocksucker.  He got what has been coming his way for a long time, and what he gladly imparted with glee on thousands of innocents born a different race, and embracing a different religion.


All this falls on deaf ears; I don't even know why I waste my breath.  I'll just get called a bigot, or ignorant, or whatever other words they can think of to describe my clear head.  

Your guilt has fueled such angry, misguided invective.  Giult can drive a man insane.  We must repent to the Creator, for only the Most Merciful can make us to be once again clean.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 23, 2004, 10:00:56 AM
(http://www.d12world.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=54591&stc=1)

1948 You'd think after the Holocaust Jewish people would show compassion to the Palestinian people.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on March 23, 2004, 10:46:44 AM
Does attacking residential areas with missiles not amount to "terror"?? Or does it not count when it comes from an army, or someone endorsed by the US.


SOmeone said that those who condemn this are twisted by their support of terrorism. Even Britain, america's chief ally in the "war on terror" has condemned this assasination, but I'm sure your right, almost every country in the world's government bar your own has a huge problem with authority and that is why they condemed this killing. Or maybe they respect authority, and see that there is no authority which has sanctioned this action. America needs to wise up and stop giving pats on the back to one of the worlds most provocative governments.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Doggystylin on March 23, 2004, 02:11:15 PM
the israeli army and gov disgusts me
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: smerlus on March 23, 2004, 03:47:52 PM

Your guilt has fueled such angry, misguided invective.  Giult can drive a man insane.  We must repent to the Creator, for only the Most Merciful can make us to be once again clean.

you should tell that to the hamas and all your other terrorists religeous buddies
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 23, 2004, 03:58:25 PM
i dono what the average isreali homebwoy be like, but the goverment is fuckin wack as fuck...........they jus as sick as alot of others.......i think,lol

pz
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: SINLOC on March 23, 2004, 04:01:41 PM
Rest in peace to him, it's on now..... Bad move on Israel's part.
That beeyatch is in hell burning he aint resting as for the other dumbasses blowing themselves up thinking they gonna go to some paradise with women haha
LOL  How much damage has this asshole done in the name of your religion?  You people that defend people like this are so fucking ignorant, it's amazing.
I agree
killing him was a bad move
It was a good move they all need to die
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 23, 2004, 04:18:46 PM
LMFAO...Okay, so Israelis kill Palestinian civilians, but the main goal is to rid the terrorists...The civilians get killed unintentionally...Ya'll got this shit mad twisted...

(http://www.zizooo.ws/gallery/40/128.jpg)

(http://www.d12world.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=54591&stc=1)

^^Those dudes are terrorists...If they kill civilians, it's not their main target, like it is for Palestine...
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 23, 2004, 04:32:58 PM
(http://www.science.co.il/Arab-Israeli-conflict/images/girl-suicide-bomber.jpg)

(http://www.idf.il/newsite/images/0111-2p.jpg)

(http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history_community/Israel/Overview_IsraeliPalestinian_Relations/Intifada_I/Intifada2/Intifada2b/SuicideBombing1_files/image002.jpg)

(http://ourworld.cs.com/Dnt%20plya%20hat%20nia/images.jpg)

(http://ourworld.cs.com/Dnt%20plya%20hat%20nia/images2.jpg)


...now you tell me which is worse... ::)
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: smerlus on March 23, 2004, 04:48:34 PM
honestly i think they're both fucked up an ignorant...do either of them think that constant killing is going to solve anything?
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 23, 2004, 05:16:31 PM
honestly i think they're both fucked up an ignorant...do either of them think that constant killing is going to solve anything?


Not unless it's killing of terrorists...
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on March 24, 2004, 01:27:38 AM
Can you not see past this one killing? The killing of a terrorist makes him a martyr and helps breed way more terrorists.

For instance during the irish rebellion, the british executed the rebel leaders who where previously unliked, and they became instant martyrs and triggered the start of the war of independence. Killing a leading terrorist is just going to provoke an escalation in a war you claim to want to prevent. If you want to stop it, gat at the root problem. If the root problem is fixed (oppression), then, though you will still have a few random madmen, they will have no ground support and there will be a massive drop in terrorist attacks.

I'm sure you will come back and say "these exttremists care about nothing but killing westerners"...maybe a select few...but most have been brainwashed into this view by events such as this assasination, the iraq war etc, where their anger is used by terrorist organisations to be focused on the west. These kind of attacks are just fueling hatred of the west and making the world more unsafe. A different approachh is needed.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 24, 2004, 01:45:55 AM
I just don't see how ANYONE could justify busses filled with innocent teenagers being blown up INTENTIONALLY...
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: JTSimon on March 24, 2004, 04:35:15 AM
I just don't see how ANYONE could justify busses filled with innocent teenagers being blown up INTENTIONALLY...

I do.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Rizzle on March 24, 2004, 07:23:12 AM
NIK maybe their methods arn't sound but would any1 even care about palestine if they didn't do it, the whole world turned their back on them while israel fucks them over.

btw i dunno how true this is but a few months ago i read somewhere that the great israel breaks more international laws than any other country!
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Don Seer on March 24, 2004, 08:30:11 AM
its true.

they have broken and flouted similar UN resolutions like the ones the iraqi's have.

under the US's logic we should invade and set up a new government.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 24, 2004, 04:55:26 PM
Yea, but the terrorists in Palestine can't be seen as breaking laws, because they're "not part of the government"... ::)


Ahmed Yassin was a terrorist...He has the blood of hundreds of Israelis, children, women, and infants on his hands. He sent murderers to perpetrate the most devastating terrorist attacks on Israel...


Basically, this guy is the one who tells the terrorists they'll be greeted by 72 virgins in heaven if they suicide bomb a pre-school...He's the one who ordered and blessed the terrorist acts...And you idiots support him? Anwar Sadat, now that's a guy I wouldn't mind you people supporting...He literally gave his life to peace...But fuckin' Ahmed Yassin?!
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on March 27, 2004, 09:17:02 AM
killing this terrorist was just a metter of time...
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: infinite59 on March 27, 2004, 06:01:53 PM
killing this terrorist was just a metter of time...

That doesn't make it any less of an injustice.  

It was just a matter of time before the European pilgrims commited genocide against the indigenous natives, but that doesn't make it any less of a crime against humanity.

But the Palestinians will never be wiped out.  Allah is the best to protect and the best to provide.  Allah accepted the prophet Muhammad's (saws) dua (supplication) that the Muslim umma (community) would never be obliterated.

Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: GoodLuvn169 on March 28, 2004, 03:52:13 PM
1 world country leaders along with our allies need to unite and put down leaders like him along with their regimes.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: smerlus on March 28, 2004, 08:07:46 PM
killing this terrorist was just a metter of time...

That doesn't make it any less of an injustice.  

It was just a matter of time before the European pilgrims commited genocide against the indigenous natives, but that doesn't make it any less of a crime against humanity.

But the Palestinians will never be wiped out.  Allah is the best to protect and the best to provide.  Allah accepted the prophet Muhammad's (saws) dua (supplication) that the Muslim umma (community) would never be obliterated.



didn't know indians packed horses full of explosives and left them outside saloons and city halls because the Sun God told them they will make it to the after life and be showered with gifts...

the killing of Indians - Tragedy
the killing of this guy - god's punishment
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 28, 2004, 11:08:22 PM
Infinite...Do you believe that the suicide terrorists are greeted in heaven by 72 virgins after a suicide bombing, in which they murder a bunch of innocent Israeli children?
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Maestro Minded on March 29, 2004, 02:15:12 PM
Infinite...Do you believe that the suicide terrorists are greeted in heaven by 72 virgins after a suicide bombing, in which they murder a bunch of innocent Israeli children?

suicide is strictly prohibited in Islam
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2004, 03:28:14 PM
I guess there's two types of Islam... ::)
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Lincoln on March 29, 2004, 03:58:11 PM
I guess there's two types of Islam... ::)

No, people just twist the religion around to make it seem like suicide bombings are acceptable. The religion of Islam vs. Judaism is just using them as an excuse, it's more a territorial struggle between Palestine and Israel.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2004, 05:15:46 PM
If suicide is strictly prohibited in Islam, then why are you guys considering Ahmed Yassin a Muslim...This guy is causing damage to Islam's reputation, and you guys are praising him... ::)
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Lincoln on March 29, 2004, 06:52:39 PM
If suicide is strictly prohibited in Islam, then why are you guys considering Ahmed Yassin a Muslim...This guy is causing damage to Islam's reputation, and you guys are praising him... ::)

I support the cause but not the means in which they go about it. They should be doing their best to oppose Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine but they should not do it through suicide. At any rate, that was the stupidest thing Israel could have done.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on March 29, 2004, 07:13:50 PM
If suicide is strictly prohibited in Islam, then why are you guys considering Ahmed Yassin a Muslim...This guy is causing damage to Islam's reputation, and you guys are praising him... ::)

i support him because he fought your people. i lost all optimism about peace in the middle east a long time ago. now i realize at best, the palestinians will get a bantustan, with some chief ruling on behalf of some jewish colonial administrator. I basically sayin, I could not give a fuck if every Israeli dies as punishment for what happened to the pALEStinians
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Lincoln on March 29, 2004, 07:21:43 PM
If suicide is strictly prohibited in Islam, then why are you guys considering Ahmed Yassin a Muslim...This guy is causing damage to Islam's reputation, and you guys are praising him... ::)

i support him because he fought your people. i lost all optimism about peace in the middle east a long time ago. now i realize at best, the palestinians will get a bantustan, with some chief ruling on behalf of some jewish colonial administrator. I basically sayin, I could not give a fuck if every Israeli dies as punishment for what happened to the pALEStinians

Harsh but I agree.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2004, 07:40:12 PM
That's because you guys are selfish and have no heart...That proves my point...Even I would care if Israel wipes out all of the Palestinians, because I know that there are a lot of innocent people, and even children involved in all this that get harmed...I feel sorry for them, but all the asshole Arabs don't give a fuck...That just proves my point...Thank you.


But you wanna talk about peace being shredded? Peace was shredded a long time ago, buddy...Peace was shredded at Camp David, Taba and Sharm el Sheik...It was shredded with the Zinni plan for the reorganization of Palestinian security services and the president's "road map" for peace...Peace was shredded when Yasser Arafat neutered his prime ministers by refusing to hand over control of the Palestinian security forces, which, in the right hands, might actually have been able to create political stability on the Palestinian side...
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Lincoln on March 29, 2004, 07:44:49 PM
That's because you guys are selfish and have no heart...That proves my point...Even I would care if Israel wipes out all of the Palestinians, because I know that there are a lot of innocent people, and even children involved in all this that get harmed...I feel sorry for them, but all the asshole Arabs don't give a fuck...That just proves my point...Thank you.


But you wanna talk about peace being shredded? Peace was shredded a long time ago, buddy...Peace was shredded at Camp David, Taba and Sharm el Sheik...It was shredded with the Zinni plan for the reorganization of Palestinian security services and the president's "road map" for peace...Peace was shredded when Yasser Arafat neutered his prime ministers by refusing to hand over control of the Palestinian security forces, which, in the right hands, might actually have been able to create political stability on the Palestinian side...

You don't think I care but I do. I always get really upset when I read about Israelites getting killed.....but they brought it on themselves by taking Palestinian land. It's harsh but true. They should have settled there but it was wrong to start their own country on someone else's land.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2004, 07:48:15 PM

You don't think I care but I do. I always get really upset when I read about Israelites getting killed.....but they brought it on themselves by taking Palestinian land. It's harsh but true. They should have settled there but it was wrong to start their own country on someone else's land.


5 Year old Israelis brought it on themselves? Dude, come on.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Lincoln on March 29, 2004, 07:51:46 PM

You don't think I care but I do. I always get really upset when I read about Israelites getting killed.....but they brought it on themselves by taking Palestinian land. It's harsh but true. They should have settled there but it was wrong to start their own country on someone else's land.


5 Year old Israelis brought it on themselves? Dude, come on.

I don't mean it like that, please don't think I'm cold-hearted like that. I meant that the nation brought it upon themselves. I've argued that the US brought 9/11 upon themselves, same deal. I'm not justifying anything, I'm not God.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Woodrow on March 30, 2004, 07:08:27 PM
"Israel is a tiny liberal democracy surrounded by a sea of fascist, totalitarian, Islamic dictatorships, where woman are property (teenage girls are raped and then executed for 'adultery'), minorities have zero rights, and an oligarchy controls all the wealth and uses theology as a cloak to enslave their people, keeping them uneducated and in poverty, and these leftists are bosom buddies with these societies, yet froth at the mouth with hatred for Israel. Israel has .0016 the amount of land that the Arab nations have, and have had to defend themselves against four aggressive imperialist wars by the Soviet-armed Arab nations, and yet Israel is the colonialist imperialist power."

 You do the math
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 04, 2004, 08:02:38 AM
killing this terrorist was just a metter of time...

That doesn't make it any less of an injustice.  

It was just a matter of time before the European pilgrims commited genocide against the indigenous natives, but that doesn't make it any less of a crime against humanity.

But the Palestinians will never be wiped out.  Allah is the best to protect and the best to provide.  Allah accepted the prophet Muhammad's (saws) dua (supplication) that the Muslim umma (community) would never be obliterated.



an injustice?...how is killing a leader of a terroristic organization which is responseable
for the loss of many inocent lifes could be rendered in any way as an injustice?
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 04, 2004, 08:04:35 AM
"Israel is a tiny liberal democracy surrounded by a sea of fascist, totalitarian, Islamic dictatorships, where woman are property (teenage girls are raped and then executed for 'adultery'), minorities have zero rights, and an oligarchy controls all the wealth and uses theology as a cloak to enslave their people, keeping them uneducated and in poverty, and these leftists are bosom buddies with these societies, yet froth at the mouth with hatred for Israel. Israel has .0016 the amount of land that the Arab nations have, and have had to defend themselves against four aggressive imperialist wars by the Soviet-armed Arab nations, and yet Israel is the colonialist imperialist power."

 You do the math
WORD THE HELL UP^ nicely put
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: smerlus on April 04, 2004, 10:24:40 AM
"Israel is a tiny liberal democracy surrounded by a sea of fascist, totalitarian, Islamic dictatorships, where woman are property (teenage girls are raped and then executed for 'adultery'), minorities have zero rights, and an oligarchy controls all the wealth and uses theology as a cloak to enslave their people, keeping them uneducated and in poverty, and these leftists are bosom buddies with these societies, yet froth at the mouth with hatred for Israel. Israel has .0016 the amount of land that the Arab nations have, and have had to defend themselves against four aggressive imperialist wars by the Soviet-armed Arab nations, and yet Israel is the colonialist imperialist power."

 You do the math
WORD THE HELL UP^ nicely put

hard to argue againt that one
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: infinite59 on April 05, 2004, 12:06:57 PM



an injustice?...how is killing a leader of a terroristic organization which is responseable
for the loss of many inocent lifes could be rendered in any way as an injustice?


Sharon is the leader of the biggest terroristic organization and they are responsible for the loss of far more innocent lives.  Look up the statistics.


Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2004, 12:17:21 PM



an injustice?...how is killing a leader of a terroristic organization which is responseable
for the loss of many inocent lifes could be rendered in any way as an injustice?
Sharon is the leader of the biggest terroristic organization and they are responsible for the loss of far more innocent lives.  Look up the statistics.


Do you consider terrorists, and family members of terrorists innocent lives? If so, yes.
Title: Re:Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 06, 2004, 06:58:40 AM



an injustice?...how is killing a leader of a terroristic organization which is responseable
for the loss of many inocent lifes could be rendered in any way as an injustice?


Sharon is the leader of the biggest terroristic organization and they are responsible for the loss of far more innocent lives.  Look up the statistics.

which anti-Israeli propoganda article did u rip for these words of wisdom?...there is no way u can compare a terroristic organization to a country protecting itself from terroristic organizations whose atacks ( as the Palestinians themselves want the world to believe )do not reflect the entire Palestinian population's opinion....or may be it does?? may be we are underestimating the collective evil that lives amongst the Palestinians, if so, may be we SHOULD wipe them fuckers without concentrating only on the active members  of terroristic organizations?....there is one thing u don't get, if Israel was not to give the Palestinians a chance to co exist, they may've not existed at all, in one way or another, it's just that our moral values are in the way of that, moral values, here is something they should study in the Hamas sponsored schools in the Authority.