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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Z the laidback Virus on May 07, 2004, 02:31:20 AM
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I know this sounds hard but I'm convinced mentally handicapped people should in fact be sterilised. I'll tell you why.
Think of the impact on other people.Just imagine yourself as having a father or mother (or both) with Down syndrome.You'll probably be ashamed of them, you'll get bullied for it and will experience all kinds of problems. There is a big chance you'll start to hate your parents or grow into a very troubled adult. No child should be put through that if it can be avoided.
Furthermore,these people can't properly care for a child themselves because they are kids themselves. What then happens is that other people can look after these children because the mentally handicapped parents can't.This puts extra stress on the people close to them. Just imagine a nursery home full off kids that also need to be cared for by the personel. That should be avoided as well. It isn't just like those kids would have to be cared for a certain time,but for their entire childhood.
Don't think I'm just talking and don't know what I'm talking about;I got a cousin like that myself and can only say I don't want her to get children because she really couldn't properly care for them.
Any thoughts?
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you know they did this in sweden behind closed doors in the 30s.. (think was the 30s or 40s)
its disgusting. you dont have the right to choose.
theres enough of an issue at the moment as to whether people carrying down's children are allowed to abort when they find out...
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I don't think people that can't care for their own kids should be allowed to have children because they burden the community with the care for these kids.
It's hard to say,but some people should not be permitted to spread their genes,such as:
-sadists
-necrophiles
-incredibly stupid people
-people without any lack of responsibility
-pedos
-etc.
This is not because of these people themselves but because of the way their children would (and do) suffer from their parents inabilities or disorders.
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That's a basic freedom granted you by God. You can't take that away from people, it's not your right or the government's right. The most powerful thing God is capable of is creation, and he's gifted us with the same power.
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we cant make the decision to sterlize other people - its too inhumane - its not like they are pet or something - they have the same basic human rights as everyone else.
also u say these people shouldnt be allowed to be permitted to spread their genes but there is absolutely no way u can govern it. especially incredibly stupid people or people without any lack of responsibilty mainly because thats opinion. for example im sure u find urself to be very intelligent, i on the other hand find u to be incredibly stupid for suggesting mentally handicapped should be sterilised.
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Nevertheless,I stay with my opinion. And I agree it's hard but it's probably for the best.
Just imagine yourself as having such parents and the consequences it would have for everyone involved. Ever thought about that? I'm sure we all agree suffering should be avoided as much as possible and by making sure these people don't have children,much suffering can be avoided.
And please take notion, not all handicapped people should be sterilised IMO. Only those who are completely unable to care for children,should they get them, because they are mentally children themselves. Like said,you can't govern it and that's why such things occuring should be avoided.
There's nothing like controversy to stir up things.
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That's a basic freedom granted you by God. You can't take that away from people, it's not your right or the government's right. The most powerful thing God is capable of is creation, and he's gifted us with the same power.
Please tell me why God would allow handicapped people to exist in the first place. To let very vulnerable and disabled people like that exist in the cold and dangerous world, isn't that completely at odds with 'the merciful God'?
The imperfection of many things alone is a powerful argument against the existence of God.
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Why don't we just kill them all and be done with it? ::)
Fucking mug.
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I agree.
All mentally handicapped people should be sterilized. Personally I would rather have them all disappear but I don't think that would work out ;D
Maybe they can come back as a normal person :D
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Have you got 47 chromosomes?
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There's nothing like controversy to stir up things.
Not really. See, the problem with you starting 'controversy' is you're not really all that powerful, intelligent, or important. So a fool can say whatever he wants and it doesn't really get controversial.
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That's a basic freedom granted you by God. You can't take that away from people, it's not your right or the government's right. The most powerful thing God is capable of is creation, and he's gifted us with the same power.
Please tell me why God would allow handicapped people to exist in the first place. To let very vulnerable and disabled people like that exist in the cold and dangerous world, isn't that completely at odds with 'the merciful God'?
The imperfection of many things alone is a powerful argument against the existence of God.
I would tell you, but you've already made up your mind to believe what you want to believe. I won't waste my breath.
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Have you got 47 chromosomes?
lol.
Here's a little theory I have. Humans have 46 chomosomes. People with down syndrome have 47 (an extra 23rd or something). So TECHNICALLY, they aren't even human. So if it came down to it, you could eat someone with Down Syndrome and get away with it :D
lol, my mom teaches Mentally Challenged kids in an elementary school. So we have discussions about it a lot.
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They are superhumans ;D
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There's nothing like controversy to stir up things.
Not really. See, the problem with you starting 'controversy' is you're not really all that powerful, intelligent, or important. So a fool can say whatever he wants and it doesn't really get controversial.
Shutup white trash.
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there are so many couples who'd be great parents but cant get a child of their own. can you give one to them?
then you shouldnt judge on others to not get children.
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There's nothing like controversy to stir up things.
Not really. See, the problem with you starting 'controversy' is you're not really all that powerful, intelligent, or important. So a fool can say whatever he wants and it doesn't really get controversial.
Well, you might not think so but I've certainly stirred things up a little by saying this.
Examples:
- everyone suddenly thinks I'm stupid or something..not something I noticed being considered before
- All you people suddenly get all hectic without bringing a real argument making me (or Max Powers) change my mind
- and not untellingly,my karma has dropped 2 points. ;D
I stay with my opinion. If I would get a child like that,I wouldn't want it to get children itself. Put yourself in this position: you have mentally handicapped kid and one day he/she comes up to you:
'Dad, do you like little children?''
Sure do'
'Would you want me to get little children?'
You have to think about that,I'm sure so you'll probably say 'I don't know'
'Dad,can i tell you something?'
'Yes'
'I'm/My girlfriend is pregnant.
Would you want something like this to happen to you and your vulnerable,handicapped kid?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
and like a Dutch speaking says
'Preventing is better then healing'
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HAHAHA....just read the first post...
THAT'S RIDICULOUS !!!
i cant believe you're even suggesting it. It's the most basic human right. I have a friend who's sister is mildly handicapped and she has a daughter who is one of the best kids i know. It's not your right to "stereilise" people.
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My own cousin is mentally handicapped....and she isn't even THAT bad of a case....but I don't think she should get children.
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Yeah, and your entitled to that opinion, but in all fairness, why should you be allowed to decide if someone can or cant have children. In all likelyhood they wont have kids anyway, but "sterilising" them is like something they'd do in the dark ages
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There's nothing like controversy to stir up things.
Not really. See, the problem with you starting 'controversy' is you're not really all that powerful, intelligent, or important. So a fool can say whatever he wants and it doesn't really get controversial.
lol
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^of course we all know Trauma has a very good sense of his own importance and intelligence.... ::)
I quote:
'No more then 5 soldiers will die in the Iraq operation'
and the guy still thinks he's wise.
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i agree 110% that they should be sterilized...i personally believe that you should need a license to have children...too many deadbeat parents out there... 8)
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^There could be truth in that.