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Title: Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Bomb-A® on May 10, 2004, 09:57:14 AM
after listening to party people i really feel like daz could go platinum with this. i dont see kurupt even going gold. besides im sure daz is also gonna have a lot of west coast gangsta tracks on there to keep us happy. record sales aside, so so gangsta is prolly gonna be a better album with good daz production. just hope he doesnt have too many so so def artists on there.

what yall think?



peace

ps: i hope those dre tracks make it on there ;D
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: MOB on May 10, 2004, 10:19:11 AM
of course daz album will sell more
But I have the feeling kurupt album will be better and will feature a lot of westcoast rappers
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: from the yay on May 10, 2004, 10:27:47 AM
considering koch is distributing kurupt,I don't think it will be too sucessfull lol
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: vegaz on May 10, 2004, 11:08:26 AM
I bet niether one of these records will break gold. I think kurupts album will be harder. and daz's album will be softer because of j.d.'s influence and yes its already been said in different rap publications that the so so def family is contributing on his album. and I doubt very seriously dre would ever fuck with daz or kurupt ever again.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on May 10, 2004, 11:20:01 AM
daz is selling out on this album...how many west coast guests do you think there will be on this...its gonna be alot of jkown, jd, jagged edge and hell maybe even lil bow wow will probably be guests...and jd's pop beats...this is gonna be WACK...and its sad to see some people thinking this is a good thing for daz....why does anyone care if daz goes platinum or not???  it doesnt effect u personally so why give a fuck how much they sell...anyway kurrupts will be tight...he's going back to his roots and though it probably wont be a big seller(again who cares as long as its dope) im have real high hopes for this  8)
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: hector on May 10, 2004, 11:28:04 AM
I wanna know why you guys think daz is gonna be sucessful with this album?  Westside connection, knoc-turnal, e-40, all got way more promotion than daz album will get, and they didn't do well.

anyways, I'm sure daz album is gonna suck.  He sold out big time, and this album will be full of wack guests and production, and songs.

Kurupt on the other hand, has a lot to prove.  plus he is sure to have better guests and production that daz.

anyways I'm not expecting much at all from either, but I think kurupts album will be better.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 10, 2004, 11:33:55 AM
i expect daz album too be good i think there will be the odd so so def influenced tracks but i expect daz to produce a lot of this album. i remeber him saying he could get his beats back to how they were sounding back on death row days if he could just be in a more hi tec studio. on so so def he will get that.

I think it will sell descent aswell look what jd did with bone crusher and he cant even rap.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 10, 2004, 11:49:39 AM
sales wise, with JD promoting it, Daz will do better.  However as for the album itself, I think Kurupt's album will be better musically.  He has more to prove than Daz and I think it'll show on his album
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Lord Funk on May 10, 2004, 12:14:09 PM
I'm not expecting much at all from either, but I think kurupts album will be better.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 10, 2004, 01:04:34 PM
I'm not expecting much at all from either, but I think kurupts album will be better.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Diabolical on May 10, 2004, 02:41:39 PM
I dont have a clue, and i dont care.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Zeus on May 10, 2004, 03:42:49 PM
Sales wise i predict neither album will go Gold.

Music wise I'll bet any money kurupts album will be hotter, just look at the collabos recently-Daz is fucking with JD, BoneCrusher, J Kwon and Jaggedd Edge???

Kurupt is doing shit with Cormega, Jayo Felony, Mobb Deep and MOP.I know which one im picking up, against tha grain 4 sure.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: allfromtheIE on May 10, 2004, 04:27:10 PM
Yeah, and that collaboration with Cormega was wack.  Like I said in its related post, If Kurupt keeps rhymin in that wack new flo he got, his album will be weak.  So far aint nothin changed so I dont see how the album will be any different.  The beats im sure will  be tght, but I dont know if wel'l see the old kurupt back on this one, I hope so though.  Regardless, So So Def knows how to push records.  Just look at chingy, bow-wow, jagged edge.  And Ive seen and heard bonecrusher, bow wow, and jagged edge, way more on the radio and video than E-40, and knoc. No question, its a rap Cuzz.  I really dont care if nobody from the west is on the album, as long as there aint too many other people on the album as well. And as long as Daz is producin and rappin.  An 80% Daz CD is all Im really lookin for.  Anything less would be dissapointing.
Dont forget Daz has had his hand in the majority of hits that came out of death row when we was runnin thangs.  People forget quick.  Plus the single is hot.  Im takin Daz all the way.  And what CD yall got by Daz that was soft?  Did I miss an album? Where you guys gettin this stuff from?  Daz keeps it gangsta every album.  And who says Daz aint got as much to prove as Kurupt.  This is Daz first mainstream album from the independent underground scene and is back to producing in a major studio since the golden era at the row.  He gotta prove to some of yall suckheadz that he can produce hitz, and it wasnt all Mike Dean and Dre n dem.  But bottom line, I could care less who sells more tho.  I really hope they both do well.  But some of yall gotta quit with that ignorant ish.  Daz's album soft.  Dont even let me get started on "Its over Now" with Natima or whoever
IE
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Eddie G. on May 10, 2004, 06:56:34 PM
I've always been a huge fan of Kurupt and Daz, but I've always liked Kurupt more.  For these new albums, I think "Against the Grain" will be better because Kurupt has never disappointed with a solo release (The Originals doesn't count, it wasn't even an offical album).  Even when on his own DPG Recordz, Daz disappointed with "This Is The Life I Lead."  I think "RAW" was a very solid album, but "DPGC" lost major points with me considering he didn't produce any on the CD himself and that he recycled his old lyrics.  Also, Kurupt is obviously the better lyricist and has always been noted for his rapping skills alone, while Daz has always been sorta the producer.
Against the Grain will be strictly a West Coast CD, and thats what I'm looking for.  I think So So Gangsta will be dope too if it keeps a psuedo-West Coast vibe.  If he turns crunk, the Cd WILL go down the shitter.  However, I've always been a fan of JD, and even though the people on his label (Youngbloodz, J-Kwon, BoneEater) tend to have shitty production, JD's solos all have solid party-type production that don't really sound Southern at all.  I still bump "Life In 1472," and to me JD has always been West-influenced in his beats (remember when he started with Kriss Kross and Da Brat?  That was all West Coast shit!)
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: youngmessnucca on May 10, 2004, 07:04:36 PM
Daz is a better MC than Kurupt nowadays and Kurupt is just a bum now. to me it doesnt matter whos featured on SSG as long as Daz does his thing. I'm pretty sure anything Death Row puts out is suspicious, like the track with 2Pac.

Anyway Daz wont sell becuase he wont sell out, but Suge will have Kurupt do anything he wants.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Lil Jay on May 10, 2004, 08:01:56 PM
Its too hard to tell right now whos gonna have the better album. I dont know what to expect from Kurupt. He could come with a hard ass "Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha" type of album (what Kurupt promised) or some bullshit like "Tha Originals" so its all up in the air. I guess Daz will stay on the level of his previous albums like "This Is The Life I Lead" or "U Know What Im Throwin Up". The production & guest appearances will probably be better & more west coast on "Against The Grain", but if JD drops beats like he did on "Life In 1472" Ill be happy enough, cause that was one of the best albums in 98, even if it wasnt very west coast sounding. But as far as delivery / flow / lyrics?? Shit I dont know, they are probably both on the  same level right now. Ive always liked Kurupt more, but at the same time, he has more to prove on his next album.





Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Tha Crip on May 11, 2004, 12:16:04 AM
i like daz more den kurrupt......im gonna buy both of dem ne ways tho....ive bought every other kurupt cd why not dis one........btw kurupt gon hav ice cube on his album.....dats gonna be da shyt
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: michael jackson on May 11, 2004, 01:11:36 AM
KURUPTT YOUNG GOTTI ALBUM AGAINT THA GRAIN CUZZINZ I HEARD IT,ANARCY DISES DAZ HARDDDDDDDDD AND THA TRACC WITH DAVE HOLLISTER A PHAT ONE HOLLLLLLLAA
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: i love men who take pictures with their booty's out on May 11, 2004, 01:54:37 AM


when it comes to lyrical content..kurupt got it hands down..its jus he is on a label with no..umph(no homo)..he doesnt have a solid backin like daz..

daz will go gold..kuz of the people he's surrounded..

but overall sound and content...kurupt has it hands down..

daz jus will continue to do the same shit he been doin
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Zeus on May 11, 2004, 09:02:04 AM
LMAO at anybody excited about a daz sosodef album.Come on DPG was clowning the fuck out of JD back in 95 and now theyre sucking his dick to sell a few records thats a shame.Why cant daz stay in cali and put out records, why go to atlanta and sell out.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Funkadelic on May 12, 2004, 12:33:12 AM
I think that Daz's album will still have some dope rappers from his own camp, but not that many like on his last album. Kurupt's will be harder, but Daz's album will be more succesful, when it comes to the sales.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on May 12, 2004, 05:53:13 AM
Kurupt's will be garbage,that's for sure. Stepping up his game? I'm sure he wanted to do that when dissing Daz,Snoop,Soopafly and Bad Azz after he left them and those disses were completely weak and his lyrics shitty. I don't see 'Against the grain' coming out much different.

Daz isn't that much better of a rapper but at least he's got some lyrics if he wants to and he'll get dope beats,quite likely,wich Kurupt will likely lack.

So,if you hadn't noticed, I think Daz's album will be better,besides from doing better.

I must also be one of those few guys who's allways liked Daz better.

Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: hector on May 12, 2004, 01:43:46 PM
I think that Daz's album will still have some dope rappers from his own camp, but not that many like on his last album.

Daz camp is now so so def.  There are no dope rappers from so so def.  Guest apperances on his album are going to do nuthin but ruin the album for me.
Title: Re:Predictions: So So Gangsta vs Against The Grain
Post by: Hatesrats™ on May 12, 2004, 02:02:03 PM
Can't help but presume KURUPT will
blast Daz outta the water..

danm!!! then again it could be either'z worst effort
Let's just hope they drop first... ;)

Hatesrats 2oooIV