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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Seer on May 14, 2004, 11:20:53 AM

Title: uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Seer on May 14, 2004, 11:20:53 AM

there is a demonstration planned in scotland on june 15th.

the guy that organised the strikes (david handley from farmers for action) here 4 years ago has given the govt. 2 weeks to announce a solution.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Trauma-san on May 14, 2004, 03:18:09 PM
OOOOOh, they're not going to DEMONSTRATE! Isn't that where they go stand in front of a place with signs and shit?  


Somebody give me 1 example of where a demonstration has worked.  
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Jome on May 14, 2004, 03:31:40 PM
OOOOOh, they're not going to DEMONSTRATE! Isn't that where they go stand in front of a place with signs and shit?  


Somebody give me 1 example of where a demonstration has worked.  


Yeah, they should bomb them instead, or shoot up the Queens palace.
Much more efficient.

Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Seer on May 15, 2004, 03:28:29 AM
hahah no trauma, they arent demonstrating with signs n shit. why didnt u look up what they did last time?

u see what happens is.. all the farmers + hauliers drive through london and on major motorways in their rigs n shit at about 4 miles per hour...

it pretty much fucks everything up... a city filled with huge trucks? lmao

they also blockade the exits for the refinement places where the petrol comes from... that leaves no new petrol getting to pumps.. then results in all the petrol stations in the country running out..

more impact than a girly sign eh? :)
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 15, 2004, 07:11:25 AM
the governemnt has made some changes to the law they are gonna bring the army in to force to them tostop blocking the petrol distribution networks.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Seer on May 15, 2004, 07:28:03 AM
they gonna shoot em?  :o lol
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 15, 2004, 01:09:59 PM
don't know the details they are secret plans and with petrol set to go up to 90p a litre over the next month and tax to rise 2p a litre in september (already at 75%) i'm sure they are determined not to let britian come to stand still again
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Trauma-san on May 16, 2004, 10:10:53 PM
hahah no trauma, they arent demonstrating with signs n shit. why didnt u look up what they did last time?

u see what happens is.. all the farmers + hauliers drive through london and on major motorways in their rigs n shit at about 4 miles per hour...

it pretty much fucks everything up... a city filled with huge trucks? lmao

they also blockade the exits for the refinement places where the petrol comes from... that leaves no new petrol getting to pumps.. then results in all the petrol stations in the country running out..

more impact than a girly sign eh? :)

So in other words, "Civil Disobediance".  Bullshit.  They should get their asses kicked for being too bitch made to not be able to make a change without breaking the law.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 17, 2004, 02:33:06 AM
the whole country supported them, this wasn't their first avenue of protest either it was a last resort. we may have a democracy but the way i see it is that tony blair has a very autocratic leader style, in other words he is not afraid of making unpopular decisions.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Seer on May 17, 2004, 03:01:30 AM
true true.

the way i see it..  they're trying to turn this country into a 'futuristic' one away from traditional things like farming (wheras in france famers have massive power in comparison to ours).. and putting more 'stock' in things like technology and the 'invisible' industries of money. pushing people to be academic instead of them learning a trade. kids that used to end up learning a trade now end up either working in factories doing mundane stuff or in retail.

(this isnt just labours fault)

the net result of this policy is that there are now shortages of skilled labour in this country. those tradesmen that are still in business have more work than they can handle. from what i've seen plumbers, carpenters and plasterers especially are making a killing right now. others like electricians, builders and gas engineers are doing well too.

anyways.. sympathy was with them, everybody wants the prices to be lower.. its just a bit annoying not to be able to get fuel. reminds me.. i better fill up later before prices go up!
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 17, 2004, 04:15:54 AM
yea i filled my tank up last week at 81 its already at 83
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Seer on May 17, 2004, 04:51:49 AM
i guess until it settles its better to keep the tank topped right up... even tho the extra weight will affect economy.. bleh.. lol .. plus its safer as if fuel does get scarce you'll have quite a bit in reserve.. depends how many miles ya do i guess..
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: I-Yoof on May 18, 2004, 11:06:36 AM
the net result of this policy is that there are now shortages of skilled labour in this country. those tradesmen that are still in business have more work than they can handle. from what i've seen plumbers, carpenters and plasterers especially are making a killing right now. others like electricians, builders and gas engineers are doing well too.

True. People would rather sit on a computer for a living then actually become skilled in a trade. Nowadays, however, its beginning to change. Try getting into a plumbing course-can be pretty hard, I know, I've tried. Once you have the qualifications you are sorted for life.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Joachim on May 18, 2004, 11:15:30 AM
I retrained as a carpenter/joiner last year, its fucking great money. Im hoping to get into dry lining tho, cos theres serious honey in that game, its the future of housing and its piss easy work.

On petrol, i paid 85p in North London today but my brother paid 88p out in Essex on Saturday.

Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: I-Yoof on May 18, 2004, 11:22:16 AM
Wouldn't it be hard to just get involved in dry lining though-could see it been more construction based on the whole. I've done construction aptitude test and pissed them, but I don't want to just get involved in basic building work.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Joachim on May 18, 2004, 11:34:45 AM
Its hard to get into 'cos its still a fairly new method of building, but if theres any dry lining companies near you give 'em a ring bruv. Have you tried contacting CITB?
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: I-Yoof on May 18, 2004, 11:38:22 AM
Its hard to get into 'cos its still a fairly new method of building, but if theres any dry lining companies near you give 'em a ring bruv. Have you tried contacting CITB?

Yeah, I had a test with them. Walked it. But at the time I was interested in plumbing and they said they had no vacancies in plumbing. I might give them a ring and see where I stand.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Trauma-san on May 18, 2004, 08:41:41 PM
the whole country supported them, this wasn't their first avenue of protest either it was a last resort. we may have a democracy but the way i see it is that tony blair has a very autocratic leader style, in other words he is not afraid of making unpopular decisions.

In other words, he's a true Leader.  A leader in a democracy isn't elected to decide what the people decide, he's elected to represent the people and decide what he decides.  Tony Blair's a good man, he intends to do right by England, even if the population doesn't agree with it.  
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 19, 2004, 03:05:23 AM
i agree but he has not had a good couple of years
top up fees
nhs budget increases make little improvements
petrol
iraq
david kelly
school funding (labours biggest pledge was for improvements in education and now we have lots of reduncies due to lack of funds)
immegration/assylum
alligence with america
eu constitution

i could go on but u get the jist TB has made kept us dissappointed on lots of things recently which is why he'll go, even his own party are plotting to get rid of him (even tho hes labour's only chance of winning), one thing he can't be denied is his leadership ability though his charismatic approach he is a very effective communicator and a strong leader. its a shame he has to go i've always liked and respected him and agree with many of his views, but aslong as they don't make too many budget cuts i think the tories will be much more effective at running the country.
Title: Re:uk petrol prices update..
Post by: Don Seer on May 19, 2004, 03:12:28 AM
yeah shits screwed.. but still... nationally i'd still rather vote labour than conservative. lib dems havent a chance on that level.

lib dems have a better chance against the conservatives down here in local elections though. (cons barely gotin last time, mostly because turnout was so low.. next time it'll be a diff matter..)