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Elements => Tha Vault => Album Review => Topic started by: So Much Style on May 24, 2001, 04:01:11 PM
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intro nothin special
the watcher most underated track on album, only solo, extreme dopeness, GREATTT 5+
fuck u-great g funk beat snoop and devin are tight, dres verse lacks, ncie chorus 5+
still dre-first single really good, love it 5
xxplosive-everyone hates kurupt on this, he cusses like 203480390 times, song is still better than average, hittman sings, nate brings this up severly 4
whats the difference-one of my favorites, xzibit rips it, em rips it, dre tells a cool story about eazy and doc, dope beat 5
bar skit-bla
light speed-very futuristic beat, i luv it, dope song 4.5
forgot about dre- CLASSIC, i dont care if trl played it out, its very dope, 5+++
next episode-my personal fav from the album, very nice, i wish i never heard tashs song fallin off, now i know that dre just stole this beat basically..but still great song 5+
lets get high-alot of peoples less fav on album, but its still very good..kurupt comes dope..hittman mrs roq and dre too nice beat 4
bitch niggaz-tooooo slow for me, but still a good song 3.5
car bomb-skit
murder ink-extreme dopenes, voices are changed with some machine hittman and roq tear it up over this halloween sampled beat 4.6
eddie skitthing
la niggaz-very good sog, all the rappers come tight, expecially xzibit and king t, defari too..very unique and tight beat 5
pause 4 porno hahahaha
hos a housewife-good song, too bad its on kurupt album too, 4.5
ackrite-i like this beat, fits hittman perfectly, i dig this classic 5
bang bang-extreme dope beat again, this is amazing i luv this....one of the better songs to me, cool chorus but it gets old 5
the message-nice beat, not by dre though, this is dedicated to his brother, cool song 4
overall this album is a classic fa sho. i dont think its better than the chronic, but i think it is close, it will change rap, and has started with the melodies and instruments used alot such as the clean guitar...dre is so important to rap and i cant wait for detox....
beats: 10 out of 5 (makes up for lyrics)
lyrics: 3 out of 5
originality: 7 out of 5
best songs:
watcher still dre
whats the difference
forgot about dre
next episode
la niggaz
fuck u
worst song:
bitch niggaz
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Here's my evaluation homie...
Classic Songs (5/5): "Still DRE", "Forgot About Dre"
Least Favorite Tracks: "Let's Get High" & Bitch Niggaz"
Overall Rating...9.5/10
Superior production on both Dre's & Mel-Man's parts.
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yo narrator you skiped "big egos" in your review. I like everything on there except light speed. I would give it a 9.5. Lets get high is a good party song. Gotta have the party song. However it doesn't fit in, and would probably do better off the album. You guys probably just hate bitch niggaz cause the beat was always on at dre2001.com. I swear it made me not want to listen to that song anymore.
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o ooops, big egos gets 4.5....al;ot of people really liked big egos but i never lovved it, really solid though...
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Great review except I disagree with you about Bitch Niggaz. Light Speed was the worst track in my opinion. Other than that classic album.
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I have to disagree with y'all on bitch niggaz, I find that shit tight, it's straight laid back hard gangsta
ass shit
and the beat really fits the lyrics
overall this album is IMO the second greatest rap album ever
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IM IN WITH KING OF THA COAST !! I THOUGHT THAT TRACK WAS FUCKIN TIGHT ;D
I LOVE THE WHOLE ALBUM FULL STOP !!
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next episode-my personal fav from the album, very nice, i wish i never heard tashs song fallin off, now i know that dre just stole this beat basically..but still
Didn't tash still the beat from Dre and not the other way around?
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Axually I think the Album is one of the dopest albumz ever...
Personally I think "forgot about Dre " and "what's the difference"is fuckin brilliant, but it doesn't fit in the Album...
I love the trax "" bitch Niggaz" to chill
"" Murder Ink " Fuckin wicked beat
"" Fuck you" Snoops da bomb in that track
I duno I love it all
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Naah...Dre jacked the beat from Tahs and made it 97259862496254326 times better...
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I'd give this 4 mics. some of the album can get old, but tracks like xxxplosive (greatest beat on album), the watcher, bang bang, and bitch ni**az make it a high quality album.
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4?!?!?!?!??! LOL
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aight man you've been pissin me off with your antics ever since i got here. Please cut this shit cuz im just here to post my opinion. I don't see what's funny with my response to this post, dre2001 is a fine cd but it ain't no where near a classic. Again, I ain't tryin to start shit cuz i dont want to fuck up this board with that garbage.
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I think it's at least a 4.5...
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I give this album about a 8.5 out of 10...can't touch the original Chronic though...
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yo nik, you and xz are both my homies, and he's just posting his opinion it's like my thang with that other dude who couldn't except my opinion on Dirty i don't like them, xz isn't feeling the same stuff as you ....DEAL WITH IT i mean damn NIK you can be cool but you can REALLY act like dick hole sometimes , just chill and don't get all riled up just cuz he don't think 2001 is a classic, it's not like he's being buligerantly biased and saying "i don't like this album becuase dre is fat"....he has a logical reason for not feeling it as much as you he just doesn't feel it as much as others, that's HIS opinion
PEACE...and i mean that y'all
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i think those are some fair reviews. but first of all dre DID NOT steal anything from tash. enuff said. and we don't think that this album is a classic. we believe we can do so much better. but we were extremely happy with the result. it may be a classic to some of you and it probably should be from a fan's point of view. its not perfect but it was the best rap release in 99. and to be fair, the production style on 2001 was primitive. by that i mean it was a very tough style to work with. with the exeption of 2 or 3 samples everything was created from thin air using real musical instruments. the methods of creating totally original productions are impossible to perfect right away. the production on 2001 was as good as possible at that point in time. now that dre has been working on this style for a few years, the sounds, the layering, the effects,the melodies and the total process is slowly being perfected by dre, mel-man,and the great musicians creating this. and we will continue to evolve this style and make it better and more original each time out. by the time detox rolls around then we have a real shot at creating a true classic. if we don't do it before with rakim. when 2001 came out a lot of people didn't think it would change the sound of hip hop like the chronic. but now this style of production is being used by a ton of producers. and a lot of people like fred wreckand others are putting out some dope, dope music. so as the competition and in some cases even the family sort of catches up its time for our camp to add some new instruments and innovations and change the game ONCE AGAIN. peace.
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Maybe I was harsh on XZ...But he said it's not even Near classic...and that sorta pissed me off...
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Maybe I was harsh on XZ...But he said it's not even Near classic...and that sorta pissed me off...
You don't gotta get mad at him, it's his opinion. It would be different if you made the album and he said that but you are mad because he criticised a person's album that you don't even really know in real life. (well you might, I know you got connections)
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Naah...I've never met Dre...Only talked with Cube and Snoop...and Lifestyle too...
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i thought it was o kay,,,,i like bitch niggas,,,,i really like the bitch niggas song with snoop and p,,,,better,,,,,i like the song with eminem,,,forgot about dre? the beat (bassline) was taken from a song off no doubts tragic kingdom,,,,,,,dre needs to get more political,,,he is gettin old,,,i know he has brains,,,,make some shit to make em think,,,oh yeah,,,he didnt really write the lyrics though,,,,,cool beats,,,,
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good review.... very tight album/.. i'dsay best one out since it came out to right now....
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Naah...Dre jacked the beat from Tahs and made it 97259862496254326 times better...
kinda... both sampled the same song.. and Tash sampled it first.
David McCallum - The Edge (produced by the legendary david axelrod)
i posted a quote from an interview with axelrod praising Dre's vision in the way he used that sample on that song from 'big daddy' magazine
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I'll point out the classics, in my opinion:
"Still DRE"
"Forgot About Dre"
"The Next Episode"
I think all three singles were the classics...the rest nuttin below a 3.5...mostly 4 & 4.5's.
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Like the guy who got dissed earlier I wasn't really feeling this album as much as the rest of you. I can listen from 1-12 with no problem but after that there aren't really any songs that are that good. I would take the original Chronic over this no problem, that had loads of 5/5 tracks whereas 2001 has two or three in Next Episode, Still Dre and Whats The Difference. There wasn't enough Snoop or other DPG members on this album and some of the rappers on this album really suck. Out of five I would probably give this album a 3.75 or 4 but certainly nothing above that and in my opinion it definately wasn't a classic.
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5 star tracks:
The Watcher
Fuck U
Still D.R.E.
Xxplosive
What's the difference
Forgot about Dre
Next Episode
Let's get high
L.A. Niggaz
Ackrite
Bang Bang
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a great album!
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It's a tight record, but THE CHRONIC is better! :) ;)
Can't wait : DETOX 2003
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DRE2001 is without a doubt one of the dopest albums in my collection,i always come back to it,and rarely get tired of it,alot of people in Hip Hop these days probably dont want to pay much ATTN to Dre,saying he fell off or he's out there and gone mainstream,but i disagree,dopeness is just that,DOPENESS,and that is what this album is :)
anyways,my opinions broken down for all of you
1)Intro-an intro what can one say,nice mood setter for the first track though(no rating)
2)The Watcher-this is one of the good doctor's dopest cuts EVER,very lyrical,dope beat,chorus it all flows together 5/5
3)Fuck You-dope track,by far not a "great" track,but is a dope collab,Devin comes well on this,im quite impressed with his part's on this album3/5
4)Still D.R.E-one dimensional(sorta)beat,but catchy as hell,a classic track,great storytelling from Dre as thier is consistently on this album4/5
5)Big Ego's-another good storyteller,good effects3/5
6)Xxplosive-probably the best beat on the disc in my opinion,and yeah it was on that DRE2001 site,but damn i can see why 5/5
7)Whats the difference-Xzibit and Eminem on here together,X does better than Eminem though,Em's part is interesting at first,but is annoying with repeated listens,but i think X makes this track stand apart,as well a the beat 3/5
8)Bar skit-this is boring,i always skip this,without fail (no rating)
9)Light Speed-this is one of about two tracks from this album,which i just cant feel,nothign special for me anyway 1/5
10)Forgot about dre-this Eminem's best part on the album,his job here is served well from some innovation in the beat depratment when his time comes round,very good lyrically,and another nice story-ish like track,very dope 4/5
11)Next Episode-dope,very epic,slinky beat to it that gets annoying after awhile but is dope on the evey now n so,too short though in my opinion,this could have been served better with another emcee in there and another minute or too 3.5/5
12)Lets get high-okies,okies,every one i talk to mostly hates this track or thinks it just doesnt belong,i can see thir point,it is a party banger,but it does well,and makes the album varied,i love Kurupt and Roq's part's,and damn i gotta say Roq is just pure grit and sex on this,loving it 3.5/5
13)Bitch niggazz-this is the other one i woul group in with light speed,i just cant feel it,not a memorable track for me,it cops a 1 out of 5 for the small godd parts in there,the beat is ok,its dre what can i say 1/5
14)Car bomb skit-nice opener murder ink,works well with that (no rating)
15)Murder ink-love this,very nice mood,and makes me think of cube n dre on natural born killaz,very nice 3.5/5
16)Eddie Grifffin skit-hahhahaa,i know its a skit,but out of alot of skits i have heard,this is one not worth skipppping,funny as hell,and ummm,mostly true,yeahs (no rating)
17)Some LA niggazz-tough critique here,i mean kokane and knoc didnt neeed to do that little chorus thingy togther,its just annoying to know they took the time to do that,picky i guess,and yeah it is an ok track as far as each emcee goes,but the beat is wasted,it would have been better suited to a much shorter track,good potentil,good idea,all the guys on the one banger,but just doesnt come up well 2.5/5
18)Pause for porno skit-funny to listen to,but its a skit,doesnt suit the next track at all,really,but doesnt do it any injustice so yeah,its just there (no rating)
19)Dont make ya hoe a housewife-very catchy,i love this track,very catchy,album wouldnt be the same without it 4/5
20)Ackrite-an ok track,wouldnt matter if it was left off,but it doesnt ruin the album,like i said,its just "ok" 2.5/5
21)Bang bang-nice chorus,the last few tracks on this disc are slightly weaker than the rest of the album overall,this is dope though,i was put off by that chorus at first,but nahs,ill bump it still 3/5
22)The Message-sweeet track,sentimental like,good closer and i like Dre lyrics on this,about personal loss of course,makes the album have a well rounded edge that is dope 4/5
in conclusion im not sure what to say,this is a dope album,great longevity,and i personally call it a must have as far as Hip Hop goes,i cant imagine this not meaning even something small to alot of people,in comparison to "The Chronic",well,theres much longer shelf life here,that much is obvious though,Dre has grown alot since then :)
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Still Dre. best song in the album, i felt it really deep. i spent so much time listening to that song again again, when the cd came out. it was off the hook
Ez
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Great review except I disagree with you about Bitch Niggaz. Light Speed was the worst track in my opinion. Other than that classic album.
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this is like my fav album ever...
I dont know why people dont like Let get high.. thats one of my fav songs..
but, still dre, next episode, and forgot about dre are the shit!!
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Great review except I disagree with you about Bitch Niggaz. Light Speed was the worst track in my opinion. Other than that classic album.
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thanks for the review the album was dope out
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fuck this topic is older than hell, damn i wish i could have my old name back.........please overseer,lol
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album is dope
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Dope album, 4 mics. Still Dre and Big Egos are my favorite tracks on that album, mainly because of the piano chords. I like the instrument layering on Still Dre, it's one of Dre's most sophisticated tracks musically and Big Egos has that dark feel that I love. Those 2 tracks stand out the most on this album.
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album is dope
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22)The Message-sweeet track,sentimental like,good closer and i like Dre lyrics on this,about personal loss of course,makes the album have a well rounded edge that is dope 4/5
lyrics were written by Royce Da 5'9" for Dre on this track ;)
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Well here's my review of the album, which IMO dwarfs the Chronic, which i can't seem to feel.
I'll admit my music taste is very confined, but this is my all-time fave album funnily enough. I'll only review the non-skit songs...
1. Lolo - A god of a song... ;D
2. The Watcher - IMO an excellent song, probably the most 'hardcore' on the album, and the way it goes straight into it... But apparently the lyrics were written by Jay-Z! The kinda thing that would put you right off it...
8.5/10
3. Fuck You - A good song. Great when the beat comes in and again when Dre comes in 'I just wanna fuck Bad Bitches...' But Devon's voice just pisses me off. Snoop sounds good as well. Probably one of the lesser songs on the album more pop-y or w/e.
8/10
4. Still D.R.E. - Well what to say. The 1st song by Dre i ever heard, way back, and the song which caused me to buy 2001, however after discovering the rest of the album i went off it. Still a heartfelt song with a strong minor key piano beat (my favourite).
8.5/10
5. Big Egos - My personal favourite song on the album. Maybe the ending by Hittman is slightly annoying, but the powerful, hardhitting beat and IMHO Dre's best verse ever, together make it possibly my favourite ever song. This may be a controversial opinion but w/e...
10/10
6. Xxplosive - Another song that not everyone seems to like. Personally i love it. It's so laidback. Kurupt may cuss X times, but the two choruses (or whatever they are) and the Nate-verse make this song amazing.
9.5/10
7. What's the Difference - Another in a line of excellent songs IMO, and a very aggressive one at that. Personally i dislike Xzibit's verse, but that may just be due to the fact i detest his voice. As said before Eminem starts off well, but then goes on slightly repetitively, but i still think he is a welcome presence on the song. A shame the beat is generally associated to Breathe...
8.5/10
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9. Light Speed - The beat is good, of a similar style to The Next Episode, and the lyrics are delivered well, but the chorus is IMO terrible, and really almost kills the song. Nevertheless it is one of my favourites still.
8/10
10. Forgot about Dre - The other song i had heard except from Still D.R.E., prior to buying the album. Used to be my fave song, but over the years i got bored of it. However the violent and aggresive lyrics really remind that Dre still is out there, and the master chorus and Eminem's verse truly show off Eminem.
9.5/10
11. The Next Episode - This song accomplishes the near impossible task it sets out to do, shown by its name. If it was ever possible to be as good as Nuthin But a G Thang, then this song is it, but it is more party, and less laid-back gangster. Instead of the hood-party shown in the G thang video we get pop charts hitting rich-man parties, which isnt all a bad thing.
9.5/10
12. Let's Get High - Personally i don't like this song that much, but i can see where others are coming from when they say it is a good party song. I like the chorus, and the drug obsessed lyrics are ok.
7.5/10
13. Bitch Niggaz - My 2nd favourite song on the album, mainly because i listen to music on my own, and this song is so ery good for chilling to. Snoop's intro on its own would be enough to make me buy the song, and the beat is... i just can't put it into words. However the Hittman verse is not needed.
10/10
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15. Murder Ink - A good song, with a slightly controversial portrayal of a woman 'Who'd have thought a sexy bitch would be a murderer, sniper', which is slightly against the image that Dre (but mainly Snoop) puts down usually, almost classing women as equal, something entirely unexpected. However the best bit in the song IMO is 'When darkness be closin' in' etc, which is an excellent entry.
8.5/10
16. I don't count this a song. Only listened 2 it once.
17. Some L.A. Niggaz - Another one of my favourite songs. Sounds real Old Skool and includes many many greats, however they could've done without X IMO. I love the beat and the chorus, which sounds totally out of place, but somehow in a good way. Just love it...
9.5/10
18. Jeah... The real shit... Definitely a useful addition
19. Housewife - Personally i don't count this as a song, for IMO it would cast doubt on the excellence of 2001. The chorus is good but can't stand the verses. No doubt will get abuse for this :)
5.5/10
Relistened to this again, and i would now give it 7/10
20. Ackrite - Another song i just hate, but this one is entirely unsubstansiated, i don't think i've ever had the bottle to listen to it the whole way through. I just hate it! (Personal opinion)
1/10
Relistened to this today in full, to give myself a fair opinion and i would now give it 7/10... It's O.K.
21. Bang Bang - Not one of the best songs on 2001 but still pretty brilliant, with IMO all the verses having their own edge, and lyrics i actually enjoy.
8.5/10
22. The Message - A real song, but not one of my personal favourites. I like how it differs to most of the other songs on the album in style, and i think it's a good song to end the album on.
7.5/10
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2. The Watcher - IMO an excellent song, probably the most 'hardcore' on the album, and the way it goes straight into it... But apparently the lyrics were written by Jay-Z! The kinda thing that would put you right off it...
8.5/10
I don't think Jay-Z wrote "The Watcher"...Jay-Z wrote "Still DRE", but I'm pretty sure it was Eminem who wrote "The Watcher"...
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I don't think Jay-Z wrote "The Watcher"...Jay-Z wrote "Still DRE", but I'm pretty sure it was Eminem who wrote "The Watcher"...
Just what i was told.
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Classic Dr. Album. I was in Grambling State when this came out and everybody I know was bumping it real hard.