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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: JTSimon on May 21, 2004, 04:13:58 PM
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Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia, center, a squad leader with the Florida National Guard, leaves court Friday, May 21, 2004, escorted by Military Police after he was sentenced to a year in prison and a bad conduct discharge, in Fort Stewart, Ga., in this photo released by the U.S. Army. Earlier Friday, Mejia, a U.S. soldier who said he left his infantry unit in Iraq (news - web sites) to protest an ``oil-driven'' war, was convicted of desertion. (AP Photo/U.S. Army, Pfc Benjamin Brody)
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Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia, second from left, a squad leader with the Florida National Guard, leaves court Friday, May 21, 2004, escorted by Military Police after he was sentenced to a year in prison and a bad conduct discharge, in Fort Stewart, Ga., in this photo released by the U.S. Army. Earlier Friday, Mejia, a U.S. soldier who said he left his infantry unit in Iraq (news - web sites) to protest an ``oil-driven'' war, was convicted of desertion. (AP Photo/U.S. Army, Pfc Benjamin Brody)
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Martiza Castillo, center, mother of Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia, is hugged by University of Illinois law professor Francis Boyle, wearing glasses, Friday May 21, 2004, after her son was convicted in a court-martial in Fort Stewart, Ga. Mejia's friend Ivan Medina, left, stands next to Castillo. Mejia, a U.S. soldier who said he left his unit in Iraq (news - web sites) to protest an ``oil-driven'' war, was convicted of desertion Friday and sentenced to a year in jail and a bad conduct discharge. (AP Photo/Stephen Morton)
The story
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html)
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So somebody who isn't accountable for their actions is a "hero" in your eyes?
Oh wait, This is coming from the guy who said it was "OK" for saddam to gas his own people, and if he had the chance, he'd burn down all churches...
Stick to what you know max... transvestites and played out 80's bands.
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A "Real" Hero, lol. Shows what a liberal aspires to be... a fuckin' deserter who can't take the heat so he leaves his friends and buddies to die alone. No loyalty, no respect, nothing but shame and cowardice.
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So somebody who isn't accountable for their actions is a "hero" in your eyes?
Oh wait, This is coming from the guy who said it was "OK" for saddam to gas his own people, and if he had the chance, he'd burn down all churches...
Stick to what you know max.. played out 80's bands.
You can take my comments out of context...good for you.
Ace of Base is 1993 :D
Yea.....Great American Hero. Helped make our entire military force look like savages.
For what they truly are.
p.s. they are doing a good job on their own.
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A "Real" Hero, lol. Shows what a liberal aspires to be... a fuckin' deserter who can't take the heat so he leaves his friends and buddies to die alone. No loyalty, no respect, nothing but shame and cowardice.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/11/06/gen.attack.on.terror/ (http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/11/06/gen.attack.on.terror/)
One link makes my point ;D :D
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max i really hope you 're kidding......i mean REALLY
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I actually agree with "Ace Of Base" somewhat on this
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Free country... you're entitled to be as ignorant as you want!
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Free country... you're entitled to be as ignorant as you want!
are you talking to me
If so shut the fuck up Nazi. Your the idiot who thinks its a good idea to just bomb the whole middle east & kill all the innocent people there just because there is a bunch of idiots there. Kill the idiots & the terrorists, but to say its alright to kill 1000's of innocent people just made me lose respect for you
I mean, you should know what its like to lose someone, so how dare you even say its alright for people to be killed just coz they live in the middle east
The soldier saw what he say there, & rather than play "good soldier", he did what he felt was right. He saw civilians killed, he saw through your presidents hypocritical ways & he stood up for what he believed in. Doesnt mean he is a coward, just means he is humane, he has compashion for other human beings, you dont (at least for middle easterners), doesnt mean he should follow you & your presidents bullshit
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people try to get out of the military all the time, he's just a pussy that couldn't handle what he signed up for
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1. trauma was more than exagerating.....but then again engies you take anything and everything seriously...'bout as shallow as a kiddy pool
2. damn near 75% of my crew from high school is in the military, my homie kyle is actually IN Iraq, if you don't agree with the motives....there are BETTER ways to express this and act upon this than what this fool did.....but again engies you're shallow and can't comprehend or grasp this reality
engies if there was an award for biggest cry baby bitch , you'd win without dispute, it's so easy to get a reaction out of you. with that said....trauma wasn't even directing that shit at your aussi ass. no go make me a blooming onion and help steve wrassle some crAWks
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1. trauma was more than exagerating.....but then again engies you take anything and everything seriously...'bout as shallow as a kiddy pool
2. damn near 75% of my crew from high school is in the military, my homie kyle is actually IN Iraq, if you don't agree with the motives....there are BETTER ways to express this and act upon this than what this fool did.....but again engies you're shallow and can't comprehend or grasp this reality
engies if there was an award for biggest cry baby bitch , you'd win without dispute, it's so easy to get a reaction out of you. with that said....trauma wasn't even directing that shit at your aussi ass. no go make me a blooming onion and help steve wrassle some crAWks
Wow comments from a liar, dude i laugh off your insults lol do u really think this is the dre forum or some shit, i gave up caring about BS 3-4 years ago now
At least someone has changed, your still claiming you have Doggystyle with Next Episode on it & you cant rip it coz ur computers not good enuff ::)
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people try to get out of the military all the time, he's just a pussy that couldn't handle what he signed up for
That's coming from some1 that was in the Navy...big ups ;) NOT ;D
max i really hope you 're kidding......i mean REALLY
Nope I'm really proud of this guy for standing up to the US Military. If I was kidding you would have known.
60/60 interview article
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/29/60II/main609216.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/29/60II/main609216.shtml)
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2. damn near 75% of my crew from high school is in the military, my homie kyle is actually IN Iraq, if you don't agree with the motives....there are BETTER ways to express this and act upon this than what this fool did.....but again engies you're shallow and can't comprehend or grasp this reality
lol give me a better way ;D
We’re not paid in the military to form personal opinions or to doubt what our leaders say.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/29/60II/main609216.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/29/60II/main609216.shtml) interview
Torture these prisoners for intelligence?
Aye aye captin lol or Yes Sir (http://www.tag-board.com/smilies/bowl.gif)
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people try to get out of the military all the time, he's just a pussy that couldn't handle what he signed up for
That's coming from some1 that was in the Navy...big ups ;) NOT ;D
yep in the military during a war and did my 4 years and i'm supposed to be ashamed because some little boy that likes transexuals won't give me props?
you're touchin yourself
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2. damn near 75% of my crew from high school is in the military, my homie kyle is actually IN Iraq, if you don't agree with the motives....there are BETTER ways to express this and act upon this than what this fool did.....but again engies you're shallow and can't comprehend or grasp this reality
lol give me a better way ;D
We’re not paid in the military to form personal opinions or to doubt what our leaders say.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/29/60II/main609216.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/29/60II/main609216.shtml) interview
Torture these prisoners for intelligence?
Aye aye captin lol or Yes Sir (http://www.tag-board.com/smilies/bowl.gif)
you can asked to reassigned is one...
and torture these prisoners for intelligence is not a lawful order, if those people didn't want to strip people naked, stand next to them and give the thumbs up, they didn't have to.
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people try to get out of the military all the time, he's just a pussy that couldn't handle what he signed up for
That's coming from some1 that was in the Navy...big ups ;) NOT ;D
yep in the military during a war and did my 4 years and i'm supposed to be ashamed because some little boy that likes transexuals won't give me props?
you're touchin yourself
How can one in the Navy talk about some1 being pussy that couldn't handle what they signed up.
I thought only pussies joined the Navy to fight from 2,000 miles away? I could be wrong ;D
I didn't give you props because you were in the Navy...its because you know nothing about ground action and what goes on.
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people try to get out of the military all the time, he's just a pussy that couldn't handle what he signed up for
That's coming from some1 that was in the Navy...big ups ;) NOT ;D
yep in the military during a war and did my 4 years and i'm supposed to be ashamed because some little boy that likes transexuals won't give me props?
you're touchin yourself
How can one in the Navy talk about some1 being pussy that couldn't what they signed up.
I thought only pussies joined the Navy to fight from 2,000 miles away? I could be wrong ;D
I didn't give you props because you were in the Navy...its because you know nothing about ground action.
even if i was in another service, it's kind of hard doing satillite communications out of tent, you know nothing about Rates in the military
and you're right, navy people never die.... look at the list of people killed when a plane crashed into the pentagon, USS cole casualties, pearl harbor......
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Then don't judge the grunts/ground people ;) because he's not the only one to go AWOL.
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you're right, they're not..... we've had to waste hours doing circles in the Gulf because some people couldn't take it and decided to jump over board at sea....and our record of finding these people isn't good at all
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you're right, they're not..... we've had to waste hours doing circles in the Gulf because some people couldn't take it and decided to jump over board at sea....and our record of finding these people isn't good at all
lol ;D
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its because you know nothing about ground action and what goes on.
And you do you little shit stain?
Max, Face the facts, you're a semi-worthless human being who sits home and makes fun of other people’s accomplishments OVER THE INTERNET! What have you done lately? Made a couple of posts on a west coast message board? Attended school? You obviously don't have a job by the amount of time you spend on here...
It's clear to see that it’s jealousy that’s motivating you to make all these posts. These people are better than you and will do more than you ever will. That makes you angry, so you try and belittle them with sorry ass sarcastic comments and poorly used emoticons.
What are you trying to make up for? The lack of excitement in your life? The lack of accomplishment in your life? Did Daddy like to cuddle and touch too much?
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So what if the navy isnt the toughest military force. But he at least joined the military. Props to that.
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its because you know nothing about ground action and what goes on.
And you do you little shit stain?
Max, Face the facts, you're a semi-worthless human being who sits home and makes fun of other people’s accomplishments OVER THE INTERNET! What have you done lately? Made a couple of posts on a west coast message board? Attended school? You obviously don't have a job by the amount of time you spend on here...
It's clear to see that it’s jealousy that’s motivating you to make all these posts. These people are better than you and will do more than you ever will. That makes you angry, so you try and belittle them with sorry ass sarcastic comments and poorly used emoticons.
What are you trying to make up for? The lack of excitement in your life? The lack of accomplishment in your life? Did Daddy like to cuddle and touch too much?
lol ;D yeah I was making fun of his accomplishments by saying he knows nothing about combat action.
Krayze if you really want to know I'm going to summer school and graduate from SDSU this fall with a degree in Computer Science minor RealEstate (4 1/2 years) and I do work part-time for the San Diego Chargers :D maybe if you want some free merchandise you can pm me.
Yes I'm very jealous I don't qualify to join the Navy/Military or become a firefighter/police officer ;D my life sucks really hard.
lol where do you work at again ? KFC ;D keep trying stupid farm boy...post a picture or something.
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1. trauma was more than exagerating.....but then again engies you take anything and everything seriously...'bout as shallow as a kiddy pool
What the fuck is this shallow shit. I was responding to him saying I was ignorant
2. damn near 75% of my crew from high school is in the military, my homie kyle is actually IN Iraq, if you don't agree with the motives....there are BETTER ways to express this and act upon this than what this fool did.....but again engies you're shallow and can't comprehend or grasp this reality
I've got nothing against your homies or whatever, or anyone in the army, I reckon most of them are probably good soldiers, & its a shame the whole USA Army is getting backlash from the world just because of a minority who commited those war crimes.
However, what better way did this guy have, you dont know what its like to be in the line of fire, you werent in his shoes you didnt see innocent civilians bombed & murdered like this man, & i dont know exactly what this guy did, other than just withdraw from the army in protest, whats wrong with that, he realized he didnt want part of this war.
engies if there was an award for biggest cry baby bitch , you'd win without dispute, it's so easy to get a reaction out of you. with that said....trauma wasn't even directing that shit at your aussi ass. no go make me a blooming onion and help steve wrassle some crAWks
Blooming Onion, what in the bluest of all blues is a BLOOMING ONION!
Lol the last 2 lines of that showed another example of American ignorance ::)
& they wonder why the world gets a bit iffed on how they claim to be the "GREATEST DAMN COUNTRY IN THE WORLD", & how most of y'all still think the rest of the world doesnt get ESPN or have tv's or have phones or city's or shopping malls or night clubs
You really are ignorant, there are also Aussie troops there helping you guys, so why hate on us.
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However, what better way did this guy have, you dont know what its like to be in the line of fire, you werent in his shoes you didnt see innocent civilians bombed & murdered like this man, & i dont know exactly what this guy did, other than just withdraw from the army in protest, whats wrong with that, he realized he didnt want part of this war.
Did i miss something? Please i think we've all been waiting for some of these. Could you please grace us with some of your stories from being on the frontline in battle?
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However, what better way did this guy have, you dont know what its like to be in the line of fire, you werent in his shoes you didnt see innocent civilians bombed & murdered like this man, & i dont know exactly what this guy did, other than just withdraw from the army in protest, whats wrong with that, he realized he didnt want part of this war.
Did i miss something? Please i think we've all been waiting for some of these. Could you please grace us with some of your stories from being on the frontline in battle?
Are you an idiot. Where in that post did i ever claim to have been in the line of fire or in the army? Stupid dumbass, none of us know how he feels, so how should we judge him, & what was this better way to do what he did?
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dont tell people they dont know how it feels to be on the front lines when you yourself know nothing about it.
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i finally read the story on this guy.... so he spent probably around 6 months in Iraq.... then went home for 2 weeks and never reported back
this shit happens all the time. people join the military, they're not cut out for it and they bounce at the first chance they get to go home.....this has happened for years, with or without war, and it's going to happen after that too
he's no hero, there's dozens of people like him that do that every year
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im sure theres tons of people once they get sent to where there going to be stationed there like "o shit why on earth did i sign up for this"
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but they don't go AWOL until they're sent home on leave, what good is it running around a foreign country with no way to get back home?
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This guy's problem, is he lacks certain key elements of being a man, i.e. loyalty, courage, conviction of word, etc. He said he'd do something, and didn't. He left his troupe in the fucking desert without him. Finally, he wasn't courageous enough to face up to what he did, and he wasn't courageous enough to face up to the war.
By the fucking way. Like Smerlus said, this happens all the time. Go cry me a fucking river, engies, about the other thousands in the history of the military whom have been court marshalled for desertion.
BTW, aren't these the same group of morons who were crying for George W's head when John Kerry fucking lied and said Bush was AWOL from his guard duty back in the day? As soon as it was proven that Bush wasn't AWOL, everybody dropped the story... no apologies, no backtracking, nothing. More cowardice from the liberal left, fuck em, the truth is the truth, it can't be changed by lies, ignorance, or misrepresentation. The truth still exists, even if nobody knows it.
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dont tell people they dont know how it feels to be on the front lines when you yourself know nothing about it.
Lol what a stupid fool you are
Can you not see what I was saying, I was saying what right is it to judge & say "he could've done it in a better way" when to my knowledge none of us know what the man was feeling, so why should we judge & send him to jail, we werent there to go thru what he went thru.
Now that i've fuckin spelt it out for you you might fuckin get it it pisses me off when people dont read properly
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This guy's problem, is he lacks certain key elements of being a man, i.e. loyalty, courage, conviction of word, etc. He said he'd do something, and didn't. He left his troupe in the fucking desert without him. Finally, he wasn't courageous enough to face up to what he did, and he wasn't courageous enough to face up to the war.
So you're going to tell me you have never changed your mind, or that you have gone back on your word after time & circumstances & life experiences have made you?
This guy's view was changed from what he saw over there. Pardon him for having some emotion or human compashion, obviously something you lack Trauma
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So you're going to tell me you have never changed your mind, or that you have gone back on your word after time & circumstances & life experiences have made you?
This guy's view was changed from what he saw over there. Pardon him for having some emotion or human compashion, obviously something you lack Trauma
I plan ahead. If I didn't want to be in a situation (War) then I wouldn't sign up for the military. It's as easy as that. You can dance around the issue as much as you want, but the fact is, This guy isn't accountable for his actions. He signed up for the military knowing he might have to go to war, Then pussed out. He's a big ol' vagina. Not some sort of "Hero"
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lol no one has a good reason why we invaded Iraq ???