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Elements => Tha Vault => Album Review => Topic started by: Top-Dogg2001 on April 17, 2001, 07:52:12 PM
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Weeks before the release of Until the End of Time I desprately awaited it. When I began listening to it I was disapointed. The r@b style beats do not work over tupac's gangbanging lyrics. MOB is probably the best track. Tupac shines, however the production does not fit him and the outlawz. It sounds as if they tried to modernize it however tupac's lyrics can't be modernized. He is rapping about the thuglife but the production sounds like something that I hear other rappers use today. After giving Until the end of time a listen it is clear that even though the production may not fit, Tupac's leftover albums are still better then what most of hip hop has to offer these days.
Rating:
3.5 outta 5
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Really Quick, I'll give Pac between a 7.5 & and 8 our of 10.
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Is it possible to get a track by track review?
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it's a great record
one of the best from 2pac
8/10 8)
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wack, first rule of reworking dead artists material is you dont take out the whole message of the songs by putting fucked up singing hooks and crappy beats in. the guy that mixed it (claudio cuenin or sumthin) is bullshit
those makaveli bootlegs were incredible, this shit takes away from Pac's legacy.
by the way, i dont like this album LOL
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I GIVE IT 4/5 MICS...I LOVE THE TRACK "LETTER 2 MY UNBORN"...THE R&B HOOKS GET QUITE ANNOYING ON THIS ALBUM BUT OH WELL...I STILL THINK ITS ONE OF THE BEST ALBUMS THIS YEAR
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i really wish they would just leave the production the way it is...even if it is dated...
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overall,,,i like the albulm,,,,,,if he was still alive,,,i would say its kind of repetative of his previous work,,,,,,and kind of boring,,,,i fell asleep listening to it,,,but i give him much credit , he is dead an still makin hits,,,,,,i give it a 6,,,,a few songs by themselves could get a 9 or 10 though....
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I enjoyed the album. But it didn't pass my test. To me if a album is good it will stay in my rotation for 3 months. I only listened to it for a month.
Like someone else said, Afeni fucked up the message. Trying to make him look like a angel or a martyr.
Overall decent record.
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The production on this album is so poor, I stopped listening to after a week.
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Yo I'm new but I bought this album and was disappointed. It was pretty shit. I mean Tupac with his lyrics were good and ok Outlawz were nuttin special but they were trying. The beats spoiled the way the songs were comming accross and I feel kinda ripped of after buying it. I mean I still listen to songs on it but only about 8 from 36/37 and I paid for the whole album not just 8 songs. I think the people putting out Tupac's albums are trying to ruin him a bit while at the same time make loadsa money from his death. Here's what I liked:
Disc 1.
13. Until The End Of Time f/ RL
14. MOB f/ Thug Life, Outlawz
15. World Wide Mob Figgaz f/ Outlawz
Disc 2.
7. Why U Turn On Me
8. Last Ones Left f/ Outlawz
9. Thug N U Thug N Me f/ Kci & JoJo
10. Words To My 1st Born f/ Above The Law
11. Let Em Have It Remix f/ Left Eye
14. Until The End Of Time RP Remix
Well it turned out I liked 9 songs on it but it was still pretty much a waste of money. If they got a good producer and beat maker then Tupac's albums will shine but I give this album a measley 2/5 and this is coming from a disappoited Tupac fan.
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i'm not feelin that song "Until The End of Time". my sisiter has tha CD and only likes 3 songz on it.
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When I first heard this CD i thought it was whacked up but the more i listen to it the more I like it. I'd advise to give the album a chance and listen to it a couple times before you review it.
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actually i think this is 2 pacs worst album....i hardly listened to it for a week....i dont even have it my cd case in my car anymore....the production is just horrid...i only like maybe 3 or 4 cuts on it...i guarantee that the original production would've been better...we'll never know though....the only reason it sold well cause it said 2 pac....actually most of it is some of the worst production ive ever heard
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I thought this was a good album, 4/5, but not Pacs best album by any means. Some of the beats were fucked up, but Pacs message is the most important thing. "When Thugs Cry" is probably one of the top 5 2Pac songs ever.
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NEVER 4/5...!!!
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Love it...still IT IS GREAT LIKE 2PAC...fuckin hell man. CCClassic
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Your saying "Until the End of Time" is classic? LOLOLOLOLOL
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To me itz the best album after All Eyez On Me,
what really made me mad iz that they cut out some lyrics but the album is still no1 to me.
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LMMFAO!
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This is NOT his best album, by anymeans. However, When Thugs Cry might be my fav 2Pac song ever.
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I like the Album, I like the trax and shit.
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AAIGHT......WHEN I FIRST LISTENED TO PACZ "UNTILL THE END OF TIME"..I THOUGHT MY SISTER FORGOT THE "DESTYNIEZ CHILD" CD IN DA STERIO (LOL..LOL...DIS IZ MY CRITIC OF DA R N B HOOKZ).....BUT I GOT OVER IT ...YOU KNOW!?.....I MEAN .....I DON CARE IF DA PRODUCTION CAN GET A LIL WIERED.....I MEAN....I THINK DAT DIZ PIECE GOT
PACZ BEST UNRELEASED LYRICZ .....I M JUST SAYIN DAT "REMEMBER ME?"..WAZ KINDA GOIN THREW THA SAME TOPICZ ALL OVER AGAIN....AND HERE IZ SOME "NEW" (ALTHOUGH WE ALL HEARED THE BOOTLEGZ ALREADY) TOPICZ....
AND I THINK DAT SOMETIMEZ PACZ LYRICZ OVERCOME THE PRODUCTION ALOT ON THA ALBUM....
BUT LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO "ALL OUT".....YOU REMEMBER THE BOOTLE,G DON YOU? IT WAZ NAMED
"DIE SLOW"..DON YOU THINK DIS VERSION IZ BETTER.......HOWEVER THE SHIT I DI"NT LIKE BOUTN D ALBUM...IZ DA MOLTIPULE REMIXEZ.....BUT THE FACT DAT THERE IZ 29 TRACKZ MAKEZ ME FORGIVE DEM STUPID PRODUCERZ.......
AND ONE OTHA THING...WHAT DO YALL WANT FROM DA OUTLAWZ.....DEY TIGHT...I LOVE THEIR SHIT....
THEIR LAST ALBUM WAZ KINDA WEAK...BUT ITZ ONLY CAUZE DEY WAZNT IN THEIR FULL STRUCTURE....I LOVE "STILL I RISE " THOUGH.
ANYWAYZ .....I GIVE "UNTILL THE END..."
8.5\10.
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AAIGHT......WHEN I FIRST LISTENED TO PACZ "UNTILL THE END OF TIME"..I THOUGHT MY SISTER FORGOT THE "DESTYNIEZ CHILD" CD IN DA STERIO (LOL..LOL...DIS IZ MY CRITIC OF DA R N B HOOKZ).....BUT I GOT OVER IT ...YOU KNOW!?.....I MEAN .....I DON CARE IF DA PRODUCTION CAN GET A LIL WIERED.....I MEAN....I THINK DAT DIZ PIECE GOT
PACZ BEST UNRELEASED LYRICZ .....I M JUST SAYIN DAT "REMEMBER ME?"..WAZ KINDA GOIN THREW THA SAME TOPICZ ALL OVER AGAIN....AND HERE IZ SOME "NEW" (ALTHOUGH WE ALL HEARED THE BOOTLEGZ ALREADY) TOPICZ....
AND I THINK DAT SOMETIMEZ PACZ LYRICZ OVERCOME THE PRODUCTION ALOT ON THA ALBUM....
BUT LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO "ALL OUT".....YOU REMEMBER THE BOOTLE,G DON YOU? IT WAZ NAMED
"DIE SLOW"..DON YOU THINK DIS VERSION IZ BETTER.......HOWEVER THE SHIT I DI"NT LIKE BOUTN D ALBUM...IZ DA MOLTIPULE REMIXEZ.....BUT THE FACT DAT THERE IZ 29 TRACKZ MAKEZ ME FORGIVE DEM STUPID PRODUCERZ.......
AND ONE OTHA THING...WHAT DO YALL WANT FROM DA OUTLAWZ.....DEY TIGHT...I LOVE THEIR SHIT....
THEIR LAST ALBUM WAZ KINDA WEAK...BUT ITZ ONLY CAUZE DEY WAZNT IN THEIR FULL STRUCTURE....I LOVE "STILL I RISE " THOUGH.
ANYWAYZ .....I GIVE "UNTILL THE END..."
8.5\10.
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AAIGHT......WHEN I FIRST LISTENED TO PACZ "UNTILL THE END OF TIME"..I THOUGHT MY SISTER FORGOT THE "DESTYNIEZ CHILD" CD IN DA STERIO (LOL..LOL...DIS IZ MY CRITIC OF DA R N B HOOKZ).....BUT I GOT OVER IT ...YOU KNOW!?.....I MEAN .....I DON CARE IF DA PRODUCTION CAN GET A LIL WIERED.....I MEAN....I THINK DAT DIZ PIECE GOT
PACZ BEST UNRELEASED LYRICZ .....I M JUST SAYIN DAT "REMEMBER ME?"..WAZ KINDA GOIN THREW THA SAME TOPICZ ALL OVER AGAIN....AND HERE IZ SOME "NEW" (ALTHOUGH WE ALL HEARED THE BOOTLEGZ ALREADY) TOPICZ....
AND I THINK DAT SOMETIMEZ PACZ LYRICZ OVERCOME THE PRODUCTION ALOT ON THA ALBUM....
BUT LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO "ALL OUT".....YOU REMEMBER THE BOOTLE,G DON YOU? IT WAZ NAMED
"DIE SLOW"..DON YOU THINK DIS VERSION IZ BETTER.......HOWEVER THE SHIT I DI"NT LIKE BOUTN D ALBUM...IZ DA MOLTIPULE REMIXEZ.....BUT THE FACT DAT THERE IZ 29 TRACKZ MAKEZ ME FORGIVE DEM STUPID PRODUCERZ.......
AND ONE OTHA THING...WHAT DO YALL WANT FROM DA OUTLAWZ.....DEY TIGHT...I LOVE THEIR SHIT....
THEIR LAST ALBUM WAZ KINDA WEAK...BUT ITZ ONLY CAUZE DEY WAZNT IN THEIR FULL STRUCTURE....I LOVE "STILL I RISE " THOUGH.
ANYWAYZ .....I GIVE "UNTILL THE END..."
8.5\10.
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>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
CAN'T YALL UNDERSTAND THAT 2PAC IZ DEAD!!!!
REPRODUCING HIS TRACKS IS LIKE SHAKING HANDZ WITH A DEAD BODY. THE BEATZ R JUST WAKK, AND I'M REALLY TIRED OF THAT 'THUG LIFE!' 'OUTLAW!' 'RIDAZ!' SCREAMING EVERY FUCKIN FIRST SECOND. PAC WAS WISE ENUF TO DUMP THESE TRACKS, SO DON'T DIG THEM OUT.
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I HAD A TOPIC BOUT PAC DUMPIN DA UNRELEASED MATIRIAL AND THERE IZ A FORUM FULL OF PIPZ WHO THINK THEY SHOULDNT BUY ANY OF PAC UNRELEASED MATIRIAL BECAUZE PAC WOULDNT LIKE HIZ FANZ TO HEAR IT.
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Songs I liked:
When Thugz Cry
Breathin
All Out
Until the end of time
Lil homies
This aint livin
Lastonesleft
Roaddoggs
It was a great album if only for them. some annoying tracks but good lyrics behind them. At first i loved lil homies. i felt like it was a shout out to me and my homies from pac. Give it a chance. It grows on you. It couldve been refined to one disc