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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Que (signing off) on July 14, 2004, 04:55:12 PM
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Some blame Mr Knight for this not seeing light of day, but to be honest with you, when you sit and listen to the album, its not the standards of those "Classic Death Row" LP's. Some say Crooked I's album tracks sounded to much like Freestyles and this was why the CD never droped. Thats not true, I honestly think the album did not drop because it wernt at the level of "The Chronic", or "Dogg Food". Production was not great either.
I also feel because Mr Knight was not there during the real production of the albums, that had an impact in the output.
Darren Vegas was good, but he needed to settle on a sound, his music was all over the place. There is some real uninspiring tracks, with great lyrics and vocals. The stand out tracks were not Vegas beats, rather that of Irv Gotti, Big Hutch, a track with Crooked I feat. Treach of Naughty By Nature and Devante production.
All I wanted to say is, the album was not a Classic, although if it was happeneing now, Knight would be there to stamp his touch. Crooked I has more than enough talent.
Dont go pasting this anywhere.
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hm yea ok, but yet they released that shitty ass dysfunctional family soundtrack? i am more than sure that crooked i album was much better than that shit
2nd , i hope you realize that they havent released anything at all except old 2pac material and snoop material, and nothing will come close to chronic or doggystyle again, it's just different times, deathrow is dead and so is tha row
also i am wondering how do you judge his album when it never even came out? from all the tracks that got leaked or bootlegs + freestyles they released, that shit would be off the hook
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I know it didnt come out, that doesnt mean I havent got it.
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I know it didnt come out, that doesnt mean I havent got it.
and what do you exactly have? Crooked I - Shittin On You (Bootleg) - 2002 ?
well i have listened to that and to
Crooked I - Westcoasanostra Vol. 1 - 2003
Crooked I - Young Boss Vol 1
Crooked I - Say Hi to the Bad Guy - (Promo) - 2003
Crooked I - Freestyles - 2003
and i am more than sure if that crooked i album came out, it would be dope
Comon man, if they released that soundtrack bullshit, they have released his album, it's a shame, people should just face it, Deathrow is dead
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I have all those and more. I also have his Death Row album featuring Too Short, J Valentine, Treach, Jayo Felony, Ashanti and more.
They released that Soundtrack in order to keep their name out there without it being a major release. Suge has some problems and stuff to deal with, he isnt ready for a major release right now, so if you have high hopes of seeing Death Row back this year, think again.
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Yes
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Let me also add, this thread should stop people dissing Mr Knight and Dre for them not releasing certain albums:
Ok, Rakim was one that would have sounded good but albums from the likes of Tha Realest, Top Dogg, Swoop G, OFTB, Soopafly were just not Death Row quality.
Danny Boy's is good and was produced 60% by DJ Quik, but its R&B and unless your running the label you wont get an R&B album in stores from Death Row, and if Suge didnt get locked up it would have come out.
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If you have all this shit, I would pay you a lot to get to hear it
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i wouldn't be surprised if it 'leaks' from sources near tha row close to a crook release on another label...
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well if you have it, post it up and share
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What you mean "If"? I had it for years. How do you think "I Love The Ghetto To Death" and "Dollaz In My Hand" got on Crooked I's Westcoastdynasty.com?
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What you mean "If"? I had it for years. How do you think "I Love The Ghetto To Death" and "Dollaz In My Hand" got on Crooked I's Westcoastdynasty.com?
I just assumed Crooked I himself dropped it. Would you drop the full version of "Crook Show"??
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^ answer this question.. who would have 'dropped it' for crooked i ? his webmaster right. problem solved. ;)
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When Crooked I's site went up I didnt have any new music from him, so I used a couple of the best songs from his Death Row album. He obviously verified it. It would have pretty shitty with no music at the opening.
Crook Show? that was a track from 98/99 like Bang On Em. Back when daz was still working with him. I'll have a look tonight.
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When Crooked I's site went up I didnt have any new music from him, so I used a couple of the best songs from his Death Row album. He obviously verified it. It would have pretty shitty with no music at the opening.
Crook Show? that was a track from 98/99 like Bang On Em. Back when daz was still working with him. I'll have a look tonight.
Ahh, I didn't know you were connected with westcoastdynasty.com, that's real dope, yeah that Crook Show is supposed to have Daz and Kurupt on it too, but only a snippet has leaked so far.
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Yeah Crooked gave rapindustry.com 4 tracks back in 2000 when they were up at deathrow studios, and they put up some snippets. There was another 2 they put up I forget the titles.
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Kurupt isnt on Crook Show
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so any chance that we will ever hear the full untouchable album untagged?
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Kurupt isnt on Crook Show
Oh ok, so do you think we can hear that one soon?
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So whats the untouchable album like?how many songs were on it and how long was it? How long is the full version of G'd Up N Banged Ou? I cant believe someone actually has it! Also what songs were on the Say Hi To The Bad Guy promo not including so damn hood and its remix?
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So whats the untouchable album like?how many songs were on it and how long was it? How long is the full version of G'd Up N Banged Ou? I cant believe someone actually has it! Also what songs were on the Say Hi To The Bad Guy promo not including so damn hood and its remix?
Its good, read the 1st post of this thread. My version as 19 tracks a regular CD. The full Gd Up & Banged Out is 5:21 minutes.
I dont remember seeing a Say Hi To The Bad Guy promo?
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I know it didnt come out, that doesnt mean I havent got it.
and what do you exactly have? Crooked I - Shittin On You (Bootleg) - 2002 ?
well i have listened to that and to
Crooked I - Westcoasanostra Vol. 1 - 2003
Crooked I - Young Boss Vol 1
Crooked I - Say Hi to the Bad Guy - (Promo) - 2003
Crooked I - Freestyles - 2003
and i am more than sure if that crooked i album came out, it would be dope
Comon man, if they released that soundtrack bullshit, they have released his album, it's a shame, people should just face it, Deathrow is dead
Sorry Someone else mentioned it-Do you reckon Crooked I fans would be satisifed with it-I mean is he up to his usual standard of flow and lyrics on it?Thanks for the info
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Course. Bang on em, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show were recorded around early 1999 back when Daz was still at Death Row, same with Gd Up & Banged Out around late 99, that was one of the 1st tracks he did for the Untouchable album. He recorded 2 albums with Death Row, they were: 1999-2002 LP, which had input from Big Hutch, Daz, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum, Treach, DJ Quik, J Valentine, Too Short, Tupac (the track Untouchable) and he did another LP "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" from 2002-2003 which had Scarface, Kurupt, Danny Boy, Jah Rule, Irv Gotti etc.
He walked away with the tracks he did for the first album. But Death Row have "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" locked in those vaults.
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Course. Bang on em, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show were recorded around early 1999 back when Daz was still at Death Row, same with Gd Up & Banged Out around late 99, that was one of the 1st tracks he did for the Untouchable album. He recorded 2 albums with Death Row, they were: 1999-2002 LP, which had input from Big Hutch, Daz, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum, Treach, DJ Quik, J Valentine, Too Short, Tupac (the track Untouchable) and he did another LP "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" from 2002-2003 which had Scarface, Kurupt, Danny Boy, Jah Rule, Irv Gotti etc.
He walked away with the tracks he did for the first album. But Death Row have "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" locked in those vaults.
Do you know if he's gonna plan on releasing those tracks? Would the people that hooked you up with the Untouchable CD be pissed if you leaked some of it on the internet?
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Thanks for all the info!..So he could still release the tracks from the Untouchable album-maybe he'll do a Nas Lost Tapes type release..I always wished that Untouchable was released..I reckon it would be better than Say Hi To The Bad Guy with big hutch and daz on it
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Your welcome. I can do what I want with that music really. To my knowledge he left with all of his material from 99-2002. I don't think he has the rights to release any of it though, im sure he doesnt intend releasing any of that material either. At least hes never told me.
One track I want to hit the web is, The Slap Back. He ripped Snoop a new butt-hole on that.
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so can you hook us up with the tracks?
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What track? I have completed Death Row albums by Crooked I, Danny Boy, Jewell, Bloody Mary (album featured Crooked I on a song called "Soldier" produced by DJ Ezcut), Top Dogg, Tha Realest and one of the 1st Death Row projects by The Convicts.
The Convicts were Tre Deuce or 3-2 and Big Mike and they were signed to Death Row Records in 92 before they went back to Rap A Lot. DJ Slip of IV Life Records/Comptons Most Wanted produced a lot of the album back when he was working with Death Row.
It's a lot people havent heard. I can honestly say I don't listen to Hip Hop music anymore so its just sitting here. I can send you some stuff if you want.
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What track? I have completed Death Row albums by Crooked I, Danny Boy, Jewell, Bloody Mary (album featured Crooked I on a song called "Soldier" produced by DJ Ezcut), Top Dogg, Tha Realest and one of the 1st Death Row projects by The Convicts.
The Convicts were Tre Deuce or 3-2 and Big Mike and they were signed to Death Row Records in 92 before they went back to Rap A Lot. DJ Slip of IV Life Records/Comptons Most Wanted produced a lot of the album back when he was working with Death Row.
It's a lot people havent heard.
OMG *drools" If you could hook us up with "Crook Show" and any of the DJ Quik produced Danny Boy and Top Dogg tracks, I would be more than grateful.
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OMG *drools" If you could hook us up with "Crook Show" and any of the DJ Quik produced Danny Boy and Top Dogg tracks, I would be more than grateful.
Quik did over half of Danny Boy's album. I also have the full unreleased album from MC Eiht's group, NOTR (Niggaz on the Run). That was going to come out on the same label as Junior Mafia.
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Oh yeah I also have this one: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/5597/insideout.htm. Death Row's Inside Out compilation. Thats prolly Danny Boy's best ever commercial track on that CD!
ALBUM INFORMATION: DEATH ROW: INSIDE OUT
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RELEASE DATE: October 6, 1998
Track Listing
DISC 1
Track No. Track/Artist
1 Death Row Intro Tha Realest
2 Late Night 2Pac w/ DJ Quik
3 Whats The Deal Chocolate Bandit
4 Only Because Of U Daz Dillinger w/ Outlawz & Tha Realest
5 Going Back ToCali Top Dogg
6 Easy To Be A Soldier When There Tha Realest
7 With Me Tonight Jewell
8 Fifty Sac Soopafly
9 We Dont Love Em Top Dogg
10 They Wanna Be Like Us Tha Realest w/ Top Dogg
11 Unconditional Love 2Pac
12 Memory Lane Jewell
DISC 2
Track No. Track/Artist
1 Your Fucked - Intro Jewell/Tha Realest
2 Snoop Dogg/Bitch Dogg Swoop w/ Lil' C-style
3 Just Touch Me Chocolate Bandit
4 July Halloween 6 feet
5 Who Do U Believe In 2Pac w/Kadafi, Big Pimpin
6 68 And I Owe You 1 Jewell & The 68 Girls
7 Han Cuff Ya Hoes Top Dogg w/ Tha Realest
8 Gotta Love A Gangsta Tha Realest & Scarface
9 Cry For Me Die For U Tha Realest w/ Top Dogg & Sheeba Black
10 I'm Commin' Home Tha Realest
11 Against All Odds Danny Boy
12 Fiend To A Pipe Young Soldierz
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Oh yeah I also have this one: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/5597/insideout.htm. Death Row's Inside Out compilation. Thats prolly Danny Boy's best ever commercial track on that CD!
ALBUM INFORMATION: DEATH ROW: INSIDE OUT
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RELEASE DATE: October 6, 1998
Track Listing
DISC 1
Track No. Track/Artist
1 Death Row Intro Tha Realest
2 Late Night 2Pac w/ DJ Quik
3 Whats The Deal Chocolate Bandit
4 Only Because Of U Daz Dillinger w/ Outlawz & Tha Realest
5 Going Back ToCali Top Dogg
6 Easy To Be A Soldier When There Tha Realest
7 With Me Tonight Jewell
8 Fifty Sac Soopafly
9 We Dont Love Em Top Dogg
10 They Wanna Be Like Us Tha Realest w/ Top Dogg
11 Unconditional Love 2Pac
12 Memory Lane Jewell
DISC 2
Track No. Track/Artist
1 Your Fucked - Intro Jewell/Tha Realest
2 Snoop Dogg/Bitch Dogg Swoop w/ Lil' C-style
3 Just Touch Me Chocolate Bandit
4 July Halloween 6 feet
5 Who Do U Believe In 2Pac w/Kadafi, Big Pimpin
6 68 And I Owe You 1 Jewell & The 68 Girls
7 Han Cuff Ya Hoes Top Dogg w/ Tha Realest
8 Gotta Love A Gangsta Tha Realest & Scarface
9 Cry For Me Die For U Tha Realest w/ Top Dogg & Sheeba Black
10 I'm Commin' Home Tha Realest
11 Against All Odds Danny Boy
12 Fiend To A Pipe Young Soldierz
Did Quik do that Danny Boy track on there?
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I think so yep. Wanna hear it?
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I think so yep. Wanna hear it?
Yeah, that would be dope
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11 Against All Odds - Danny Boy (http://www.xoimage.com/Track_11.mp3)
It's a slow jam and has a choir at the end. I believe this was recorded right after he completed his Death Row debut LP. So lets say 97. Thats a Dubcc exclusive sample too, you wont hear that anywhere else ever. Please dont pass it around.
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if u are taking requests ...
def wanna hear that Crooked I feat. Treach joint
and i'm sure everyone wants a taste of Crooked I's reply to Snoops Pimp Slapped
8)
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11 Against All Odds - Danny Boy (http://www.xoimage.com/Track_11.mp3)
It's a slow jam and has a choir at the end. I believe this was recorded right after he completed his Death Row debut LP. So lets say 97. Thats a Dubcc exclusive sample too, you wont hear that anywhere else ever. Please dont pass it around.
Big props for that, thanks a lot, Ima peep it rite now.
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Damn thats a dope ass song, thanks again 8)
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do u got the full version 2 Crooked I ft. Nate Dogg - Crook In Me? someone gotta drop that shit... im sick of the DPGRecordz dudes teasin the fans..
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i love the track :)
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Yeah that would be cool if you could hook us up with some of crooked i's Untouchable-ive been waiting to hear that slap back for ages too..that danny boy some is tight
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Danny Boy's debut from 96 is the best album Death Row have locked in their vaults, I believe if Suge didnt get locked up it would have dropped, you had DJ Quik & Devante producing the majority of it and a couple from Daz. Quik mixed the CD. You have 2 songs with Tupac on also one was an intro, those Tupac vocals have still never been used or re-mixed. Considering DB wasnt paid for his contributions on 'All Eyez On Me' until last year I can't see them ever using those them unless its on Danny's album. DB was taken off tracks on 'Better Dayz' and that CD before. Since that 96 album he's recorded another 3 albums worth of music and is still in LA working his upcoming Death Row release and has plans of doing the "Knight Time Entertainment" venture with Suge. The R&B side of Death Row Records. But of course the label needs time to re-surface as the major force it once was, and that doesnt mean releasing a Crooked I or Kurupt album, it means building the family and company again.
That Crooked I and Nate Dogg track must be a song that they did with Daz becuase I have never heard of it, im virtually sure I dont have it. It wasnt for his Untouchable album thats for sure. Remember when Crooked left Virgin he signed with Daz's Dogg Pound imprint and recorded an albums worth of music.
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I think Crook In Me was going to be on the Say Hi To The Bad Guy Vol 1 which DPG was going to release around the same time death Row were to release their version of Say Hi To The Bad Guy
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Sounds right cause Nate Dogg wasnt on Untouchable. I would say that track was from 98. Where did you hear about it?
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There was a snippet of it on the DPGrecordz website a while ago-sounds like a good song. It was tagged and said dpg recordz every 10 seconds which is real annoying though. I think Daz said he wasnt going to release that album when crooked left tha row
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Thats cool. I bet Daz has some good stuff from Crooked, Mac Shawn and them back when it was Dogg Pound / Death Row. Back when I was into this rap music.
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Yeah its a pity we probably wont hear any of those songs-ive always like daz's production
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11 Against All Odds - Danny Boy (http://www.xoimage.com/Track_11.mp3)
It's a slow jam and has a choir at the end. I believe this was recorded right after he completed his Death Row debut LP. So lets say 97. Thats a Dubcc exclusive sample too, you wont hear that anywhere else ever. Please dont pass it around.
to be honest i didn't believe you at all before you posted this track.... sorry bout that ;D
Is there any posibility that you'll leak any of the shit you got in cdq?
that Danny Boy track is smoooth as hell, prolly the best i've heard from him..
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to be honest i didn't believe you at all before you posted this track.... sorry bout that ;D
Is there any posibility that you'll leak any of the shit you got in cdq?
that Danny Boy track is smoooth as hell, prolly the best i've heard from him..
Its ok, your not the only one, nobody has ever believed anything I used to say here. I did leak some tracks back in the day, such as "Smokin The Bud" from Jewell's album that Snoop produced and rapped on. You'll notice if you have that song in Mp3 that my website tags were taken off by Gfunk.de and they re-posted it. Listen close you can hear the jumps.
Theres one song that would hit #1 in any Pop/R&B Charts ever, on Danny Boy's album its called, "Impossible". The track on DBSoul.com called "Inseperable" is also a good one, its got that Ginuwine vibe.
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you're one lucky muthafucka :D lol
I really hope Danny Boy gets an album out, he's a great singer!
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Yeah he is, hes just signed a group called the MOB STARZ to his Platinum Pearl company. They are 4 rappers from Cali. The Platinum Pearl album is on hold though and may not drop for a long long time. It was planned to come out before his solo, but thats not the case now.
Did you know DB was in the Thank You's on Ginuwine's 1st couple albums. Ginuwine is also related to the Jodeci family and he worked with DB back in 96. He did Background vocals on SLIP N SLIDE.
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Yeah always liked Danny Boy-he's got a lot of talent-hopefully he gets an album out soon-what would you give Untouchable out of 10?I know you said it wasnt a classic but i bet there was some hot songs on it-i hope the full version of g'd up n banged out gets leaked some day-thats some of the best crooked i i've heard
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damn thx for all the info and the db snippet que
I already said the tracks at dbsoul were dope as fuck,especially Troubled man
do u know who produced it(and if it's a old song?)
also I think dubcc members wouldn't mind hearing a clip of slap back :)
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man please hook us up with crook show or the slap back :o
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damn thx for all the info and the db snippet que
I already said the tracks at dbsoul were dope as fuck,especially Troubled man
do u know who produced it(and if it's a old song?)
"Troubled Man" was recorded in 2000, it was produced by Chicago's Wildstyle of the group, Crucial Conflict. That song was played a few times on local radio in Chicago back in 2000/2001.
Conor, Crooked I's Death Row album would get a 10/10, an instant classic. But remember Dr Dre "The Chronic" and Snoops "Doggystyle" were beyond that. Those 2 albums created a new movement. Those "Classic" Death Row albums were made at the height of Death Row's reign, Suge was behind them and the DEATH ROW FAMILY was involved. Crooked I had to work on his own with his own clique. Suge got him the features which was cool, but the vibe wasnt like it was in 94.
Something cool about Death Row I was told by DB, that Left Eye's Death Row Records album was one of the best albums he had EVER heard and IF or WHEN released would be an INSTANT success both for Death Row standards and with the charts everywhere. He said it was Single after Single/Hit after Hit.
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damn thx for all the info and the db snippet que
I already said the tracks at dbsoul were dope as fuck,especially Troubled man
do u know who produced it(and if it's a old song?)
"Troubled Man" was recorded in 2000, it was produced by Chicago's Wildstyle of the group, Crucial Conflict. That song was played a few times on local radio in Chicago back in 2000/2001.
Conor, Crooked I's Death Row album would get a 10/10, an instant classic. But remember Dr Dre "The Chronic" and Snoops "Doggystyle" were beyond that. Those 2 albums created a new movement. Those "Classic" Death Row albums were made at the height of Death Row's reign, Suge was behind them and the DEATH ROW FAMILY was involved. Crooked I had to work on his own with his own clique. Suge got him the features which was cool, but the vibe wasnt like it was in 94.
Something cool about Death Row I was told by DB, that Left Eye's Death Row Records album was one of the best albums he had EVER heard and IF or WHEN released would be an INSTANT success both for Death Row standards and with the charts everywhere. He said it was Single after Single/Hit after Hit.
Cool thanks..now i really wanna hear it some day
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damn thx for all the info and the db snippet que
I already said the tracks at dbsoul were dope as fuck,especially Troubled man
do u know who produced it(and if it's a old song?)
"Troubled Man" was recorded in 2000, it was produced by Chicago's Wildstyle of the group, Crucial Conflict. That song was played a few times on local radio in Chicago back in 2000/2001.
Conor, Crooked I's Death Row album would get a 10/10, an instant classic. But remember Dr Dre "The Chronic" and Snoops "Doggystyle" were beyond that. Those 2 albums created a new movement. Those "Classic" Death Row albums were made at the height of Death Row's reign, Suge was behind them and the DEATH ROW FAMILY was involved. Crooked I had to work on his own with his own clique. Suge got him the features which was cool, but the vibe wasnt like it was in 94.
Something cool about Death Row I was told by DB, that Left Eye's Death Row Records album was one of the best albums he had EVER heard and IF or WHEN released would be an INSTANT success both for Death Row standards and with the charts everywhere. He said it was Single after Single/Hit after Hit.
Do you think Left Eye's DR album would have been released if she didn't have that fatal car accident?
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Yeah for sure. When Suge called DB to get him back in LA and back on Tha Row, the 1st tracks he stared working on were for Left Eye's album. That was a huge project, it had features from Tupac, Crooked I, Ray J, Danny Boy, Kurupt and some huge artists outside of Death Row. There was a rumor that she was going to quit Death Row just days before she passed, but I never heard this.
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sorry to annoy you with all these questions,but do u think there's a chance death row release her album?
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sorry to annoy you with all these questions,but do u think there's a chance death row release her album?
You dont annoy me. Ask anything and I'll try and answer it as best I can. Im a fan of that label just like you, I don't think the Left Eye album will ever see light of day.
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ok
also I just want to say the track "runaway" at paltinumpearl is tight as fuck
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can u plz leak the danny boy och the untouchable album thanks ;)
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ok
also I just want to say the track "runaway" at paltinumpearl is tight as fuck
Yeah, thats a track with Danny Boy featuring Natris G, was due to be on DB's Platinum Pearl compilation, this is the link http://www.xoimage.com/runaway.ram and here's a - never seen before - picture of DB with Natris G, http://www.xscinc.com/db/DannyBoyandNatrisG.jpg.
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thx for the link and pic
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some1 some where needs 2 drop slap back......
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Just a few quick quetsions:
1) Do you know how many songs Crook recorded on death row?
2) Do you have a tracklist for the Say Hi To The Bad Guy LP
3) How was the 2pac track? Was it the same beat and verses from Untochable on Left Eyes album?
4) Will you ever post any songs in full - untagged?
Thanks
Keep up the good word
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Just a few quick quetsions:
1) Do you know how many songs Crook recorded on death row?
2) Do you have a tracklist for the Say Hi To The Bad Guy LP
3) How was the 2pac track? Was it the same beat and verses from Untochable on Left Eyes album?
4) Will you ever post any songs in full - untagged?
Thanks
Keep up the good word
2nd that! ;)
Ax
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1) Do you know how many songs Crook recorded on death row?
Nope
2) Do you have a tracklist for the Say Hi To The Bad Guy LP
Nope
3) How was the 2pac track? Was it the same beat and verses from Untochable on Left Eyes album?
New beat possibly from Vegas or Ambassador Kash, they were using it as the 1st single off her album. They had the CD Single Cover designed and everything, it was baige colour with Pac & Left Eyes faces.
4) Will you ever post any songs in full - untagged?
Depends which ones?
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Can you post G'd Up & Banged Out in full?
That track is too tight not to be heard in full.
Or even an unheard Crook song would be nice
How about the Jayo Felony song? Sounds like a crazy partnership
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Did you see the ones I put on Westcoastdynasty.com? They are old and from his Death Row CD.
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Did you see the ones I put on Westcoastdynasty.com? They are old and from his Death Row CD.
Yeah, I got those. They sound good. Do you think its possible to post up G'd Up & Banged Out?
What is you current role with Crook? Are you the webmaster for the site or connected to Crook personally?
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G'd up and banged out was on the westcoast aftershock mixtape
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G'd up and banged out was on the westcoast aftershock mixtape
It wasn't in full and was tagged.
The song is over 5mins long.
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Que put out the WCA mixtape ;)
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Any songs which are unheard from that album would be good
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Yeah the WCA Mixtape contains basically the full song, its just shortened, I'll hit you back about posting that full song. Yeah I know Crooked personally and run/design his website westcoastdynasty.com. But I dont go around saying it like some nobodies. (http://www.theblackwallstreet.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1597&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)
Im a webmaster, I used to do it as a job, when I was a bum. I design, run or own about 15-20 websites.
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now he's just a bum ;D
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do you have any tracks or info about sam sneed an jflexx from there death row days
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Ive never spoke to them or had any dealings with them, Sam Sneed has his own production company, "Street Scholars" but I guess you know this already. J Flexx quit gangster rap and started doing charity/community work for kids and shit.
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4) Will you ever post any songs in full - untagged?
Depends which ones?
Crook Show would be nice, can you post it?
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4) Will you ever post any songs in full - untagged?
Depends which ones?
Crook Show would be nice, can you post it?
Crook Show was on DPGs Say Hi To The Bad Guy not Untouchable so only Daz has it
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I thought crook show was a death row song ???
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Yeah the WCA Mixtape contains basically the full song, its just shortened, I'll hit you back about posting that full song. Yeah I know Crooked personally and run/design his website westcoastdynasty.com. But I dont go around saying it like some nobodies. (http://www.theblackwallstreet.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1597&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)
Im a webmaster, I used to do it as a job, when I was a bum. I design, run or own about 15-20 websites.
Thanks alot, hope you can post the full song
The site is tight, keep up the good work Que.
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I thought crook show was a death row song ???
Well i think Daz recorded it for DoggPound/Death Row label but when he left Death Row he took the songs with him?Im not 100% sure but I do know it was meant to be on DPG's Say Hi To The Bad Guy Vol 1 and the snippet thats available was from dpgrecordz.com
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post anything you can, doesn't matter what...old death row shit, peace.
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I thought crook show was a death row song ???
Well i think Daz recorded it for DoggPound/Death Row label but when he left Death Row he took the songs with him?Im not 100% sure but I do know it was meant to be on DPG's Say Hi To The Bad Guy Vol 1 and the snippet thats available was from dpgrecordz.com
Yep those are old songs, from 98/99/2000. They wernt on Crooked I's Death Row release.
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thanks que. that danny boy track was tight. feelin the beat too. post some unheard crooked tracks, or ones u think we would really like. Ex: that track that rips snoop a new asshole..like u said. i wouldnt mind hearin that. thanks again, later
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4) Will you ever post any songs in full - untagged?
Depends which ones?
Crook Show would be nice, can you post it?
Crook Show was on DPGs Say Hi To The Bad Guy not Untouchable so only Daz has it
Que said he has it, thats why I asked him to post it
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post any unheard danny boy songs if you can
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i just want 2 hear a clip of the slap back... i was really anticipating that track... im one of the biggest death row fans since i was 7 or 8 years old... no1 could touch death row from 92-96... even 97-98 they still had that classic sound up 2 chronic 2000... im hopin kurupt album gonna have a new fresh vibe 2 it but still classic... jealousy is bangin... basically anything unreleased from tha row im after...
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Let me clear something up...
There were several different versions of "Untouchable" better yet there were alot of songs that were completed for the album. Now the version that Scott allegedly has is the album (or justone of many tracks that were recorded) currently that was done when Suge was coolin' out with Ray J, Ja, Irv Gotti, etc. Hutch, Triple 7, and Monsta basically did an Untouchable album version that I have. Please note that Crook did alot of music, so it's true Suge didn't want to release "Untouchable" (whatever songs made up that version). And the reasons are a little bit more biased then was was written here. Because I know many folks at the label and associated with our respected crews at that time who really thought this album was going to be a banger, but when the CEO don't like something it won't go. And Devante did some tracks, but they were never going to be used on the album, Suge and him have history and that's why he even did some tracks on the labum to begin with, but I'm sure Scott doesn't have ALL the songs that was recorded, based on the fact Crook and Co. don't operate like and just give tracks out like that. So I think it's unfair to say why it wasn't released, when all the songs recorded for the album werent given its just due. Triple 7 did some standout work, point blank. And DR owns the rights to the songs recorded btw. And Suge is not a producer and doesn't know anything about production, he has never handled production on any album, he just oversees the projects and cuts checks. So if he was home at the time when Untouchable was created the album would still be the same. In fact the only reason Gotti, Ray J, Devante etc. did tracks here and there was because of favors, like 99% of how all labels operate when trying to corner a market. Now whatever happened prior to my group's involvement with Death Row and after they left the label is out of my reach, but all I can speak on is what I know from being in sessions and seeing how things worked at the label (both good and bad). Personally the best time to have released an album was when Suge first got out, you couldn't believe the press he was getting. It was like he received over several million dollars worth of press for free. Basically we figured that Crook would be the marquee artist of the label, ATL, would be the marquee group of the label, and J. Valentine would be the marquee R&B artist of the label. The other artists were really just there. That's what Suge had said in various meetings, but of course that changed drastically and ATCQ infamous saying ran true "Industry rule 4080.....record company people are shadyyyyyyy" Alot of shit happened at the label that wasn't cool, but hey it turned out for the better for all parties involved. I think Kurrupt will do well, his album is better than his previous releases, but the industry and consumers are so fickle that without BIG BIG budgets (and smaller artist returns) many artists/labels may break even or go in the red. But to this day who knows what would of been the final tracklisting for the album, with all the everyday changes that was going on at the time.
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Thats true, the album you have was the first and most prolly best one he recorded. The original "Untouchable" LP, from around 2000/01 that featured only a few acts, J Valentine was one and had Big Hutch, Jim Gettum etc behind the boards. Ive only heard select tracks from that, should we say "era", but they were all bangin. He told me himself he actually completed 3 perfectly finnished albums, some tracks were kept on to the next one, some were dropped etc. 1 of the CD's I have was the final verison of the "Untouchable" LP from 2002/03, that he was going to run with.
Despite my differences with Damon X aka Godbody, anything this guy says is the complete truth, he's certainly real, been there, done that kind of thing.
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so We"ll never hear that Crook In me song uh |
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Thats true, the album you have was the first and most prolly best one he recorded. The original "Untouchable" LP, from around 2000/01 that featured only a few acts, J Valentine was one and had Big Hutch, Jim Gettum etc behind the boards. Ive only heard select tracks from that, should we say "era", but they were all bangin. He told me himself he actually completed 3 perfectly finnished albums, some tracks were kept on to the next one, some were dropped etc. 1 of the CD's I have was the final verison of the "Untouchable" LP from 2002/03, that he was going to run with.
Despite my differences with Damon X aka Godbody, anything this guy says is the complete truth, he's certainly real, been there, done that kind of thing.
I'd like to thank ya'll for finally agreeing on something and seeing eye to eye on some very important information. (not like Que and I haven't had our times.. obviously we've grown.) Alot of us are dying to hear more about the inner workings at Deathrow whether an album actually drops or not.. this is GREAT INFO.
Ax
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what up Que, thanks for showing me the boards and thanks for droppin that DB sample along with all this DR knowledge! ;D
If you do decide to put out DB tracks here, I say Inseperable and I Cant Wait instrumental would be awesome! Still lookin forward to a Danny Boy album, peace Que.
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Thanks for all the info
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so how about a senditlink with crooked i albums?
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^^What he said ;D ;D I truly appreciate all the info you've given us, shit, I've learned so much about Death Row in the past couple of days this thread has been going on. If you could hook up some of those songs, it would be awesome, I'm sure I'm speaking for all of us when I wanna hear these tracks just because i'm a true fan of West Coast hip hop. No one else would waste their time being on DubCC if they didn't care about the West Coast scene. Thanks again man
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I truly appreciate all the info you've given us, shit, I've learned so much about Death Row in the past couple of days this thread has been going on
real spit!
Ax
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I truly appreciate all the info you've given us, shit, I've learned so much about Death Row in the past couple of days this thread has been going on. If you could hook up some of those songs, it would be awesome, I'm sure I'm speaking for all of us when I wanna hear these tracks just because i'm a true fan of West Coast hip hop. No one else would waste their time being on DubCC if they didn't care about the West Coast scene. Thanks again man
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Can u PLEASE upload Crooked I's undies?
Good shit Nino, opening up ur vault of knowledge...
My boy keeping us entertained as usual...
as Ax said, good this post is relatively DamonX/MadUKBootlegger beef free lol
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It's cool, post up any questions, but like I said, I only know what I get told. Its good discussing that former powerhouse label.
Will we ever hear the Crooked I and Nate Dogg song? I dont know, but I believe if Daz has music, it will leak sooner or later. Just like he put out Crookz N Doggz and those unreleased DPG tracks over in Japan.
And I dont think anyone here knows more about the westcoast rap scene more than Axle. Your the one thats given the heads up here at Dubcc for a long time, even with having a family.
p.s. the "Leave us Alone" track that went on Crooked I's site was for promotional use only, that song wont be appearing on any album or single.
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do u think u could post a tracklist with featurings for untouchable?
and did u have the chance to listen to any albums in the works right now at death row?
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p.s. the "Leave us Alone" track that went on Crooked I's site was for promotional use only, that song wont be appearing on any album or single.
Yeah thats a good song-Some people were saying when it got took down off westcoastdynasty it was because either it was going to be on his album or Suge wanted him to take it off..I dont believe either-I think people read too much into things..Do you know if Crooked is planning on releasing another mixtape before he drops his album or anything?Hopefullly Daz releases the tracks hes got..I'd say he has some tight tracks..
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yea props to nino for the knowledge.....
and it would be nice to have some unreleased crooked shit untagged and all..... ;D
could you tell me if Tray Deee recorded an album under deathrow? cuz i think he was signed..
that album would be a classic if it was made
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Conor, it was taken off the Dynasty site because of legal reasons with the producer, nothing to do with Mr Knight. Leave Us Alone is a brand new song, I don't know the business issue's with the guy who produced it. But thats why it was pulled. I don't post on the Dynasty board cause a few of them need to learn some respect. Yeah, Crooked is going to do another mixtape before his Mama's Boy album, maybe another couple mixtapes. He's also going to be working with the Sucka Free camp on some business before his album drops too, they know how to push artists down there. I just spoke to someone and Crook Show will 100% leak on the net, eventually.
MOB, I have the majority of Danny Boy's new album and its off the hook. The only thing that needs to happen now is getting the guest appearences sorted. He's got a lot of music recorded and is still working now. When Suge gets settled you know that DB will be pushed. But for now, he's only doing Gospel music. You may find the 1st release from Platinum Pearl (in the wait for the debut Danny Boy album) is a Gospel Compilation featuring a close friend of DB & Suge, a former Death Row Records inmate that also followed the path of God. The only other album I know is good is what DB told me about the NINA project, being the bext album hes heard in years. I know they have Kurupt's album going on, thats all I think. I know they havent started working on the Death Row Compilation for Families of Soldiers at War.
Rudki, thanks for the props. I really don't know whether Tray Deee did an album on Death Row. I don't think he did, just a selection of tracks with Snoop and Daz. When he gets released from Jail i'll have regular contact with him and will ask.
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Conor, it was taken off the Dynasty site because of legal reasons with the producer, nothing to do with Mr Knight. Leave Us Alone is a brand new song, I don't know the business issue's with the guy who produced it. But thats why it was pulled. I don't post on the Dynasty board cause a few of them need to learn some respect. Yeah, Crooked is going to do another mixtape before his Mama's Boy album, maybe another couple mixtapes. He's also going to be working with the Sucka Free camp on some business before his album drops too, they know how to push artists down there. I just spoke to someone and Crook Show will 100% leak on the net, eventually.
MOB, I have the majority of Danny Boy's new album and its off the hook. The only thing that needs to happen now is getting the guest appearences sorted. He's got a lot of music recorded and is still working now. When Suge gets settled you know that DB will be pushed. But for now, he's only doing Gospel music. You may find the 1st release from Platinum Pearl (in the wait for the debut Danny Boy album) is a Gospel Compilation featuring a close friend of DB & Suge, a former Death Row Records inmate that also followed the path of God. The only other album I know is good is what DB told me about the NINA project, being the bext album hes heard in years. I know they have Kurupt's album going on, thats all I think. I know they havent started working on the Death Row Compilation for Families of Soldiers at War.
Rudki, thanks for the props. I really don't know whether Tray Deee did an album on Death Row. I don't think he did, just a selection of tracks with Snoop and Daz. When he gets released from Jail i'll have regular contact with him and will ask.
props for the info, but one thing Nino, and i have heard other people say this-that suge isnt settled and his business is fucked up?I dont get it, what is stopping him from releasing albums?Koch pumps em out by the dozens, is 2pac live a death row release?On the koch website it says Koch records.
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You want my honest scoop on the situation?
Suge could put out Kurupt right now, like he could have dropped Crooked I last year. But lets say those albums come out, then whats next? they have no CAMP. All labels / groups I feel are at theyre strongest when they are a team. Death Row Records lost its family when Snoop left, they lost the "team" of Tupac & The Outlawz, Snoop Dogg & Tha Dogg Pound, Dr Dre & Snoop etc. Since then they have had only a select few class acts, forming a small team, being Crooked I & Above The Law and now Kurupt. So if Kurupt is released next week, what is there to follow? Let me put it like this also:
Back in 92, Dr Dre released The Chronic, the biggest album in history, that introduced new artist Snoop Doggy Dogg & Tha Dogg Pound. Which led onto the "Doggystyle" album, which then led onto the "Dogg Food" album. That was the TEAM. During that time in 95 Dre was falling out with the camp, so Suge reached out and braught TUPAC to the label, with his group the Outlawz which formed an illiance with Danny Boy, DJ Quik etc. If all went to plan.... Tupac albums would have led onto Danny Boy albums, would have led onto OUTLAWZ albums. Again, there was a camp that was SELLING MILLIONS.
Quik did it with 2nd 11 NONE, AMG etc in 98. Now comes, G-Unit one of the strongest CAMPS & CLIQUES there has been since 96, they came out with 50 Cent, he blew (and still blows ;D) which has led onto Lloyd Banks, now Young Buck, then GAME, then back to 50. Eminem did it with himself/8 Mile/D12/Obie. Success. . .
You need a camp & Clique to move this rap business. Right now Death Row Records has Kurupt, 1 mainstream artist that is literally, Going against the grain, in the fact that hes got no support from his origonal family, mentors, Snoop, Daz etc.
The bottom line: Suge will re-build his family before releasing anything, so he has the confidence to FOLLOW UP RELEASES, if they flop or form a success, he will make sure he has all corners covered. They had a family with Crooked, Vegas, Eastwood & Kurupt etc when the Dysfunktional Family came out, it flopped. So Suge is re-shaping again. Those haters need to give the man time. I think also he is waiting for G Unit/50 Cent mania to cool off, because unless your affiliated with them, or the ROC, right now you wont sell shit.
Tupac Live CD, Kurupt album, Tupac Live DVD, Danny Boy album are Death Row projects.
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thanks again for all the info que
about the guest,the first one who came to my mind was Kokane,but I didn't know he was signed and was friend with db and suge(or maybe I'm wrong)
and do u know who suge wants to include in his new team?
danny boy and kurupt of course,eastwood and...
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i dont even know who crooked i is... :)
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Str8westcoast, I never heard the rumor of Xzibit joining Tha Row. But I don't know, im sure its just an internet rumor because Suge didnt have great words to say about him a year or 2 ago. I know Juvenile was close to signing back in 2003.
What's up MOB? I don't know who he's going to sign or affiliate with this time around, I know he's been quiet as of late. So the big man has something up his sleeve! As far as Danny Boy, he will always be Death Row or with Death Row, he still has not signed back with them, but his relationship with Suge is so strong, he's out in LA and has a family back in Chicago, he's got children and everything. Kurupt has always shown respect for Suge, even when the Dogg Pound were dissing Death Row, hes part of the future of the label for sure. Eastwood is part of the family too, Eastwood was actually found by Snoop back in 98.
But they cant compete with Aftermath, Shady, G Unit, Rocafella with the way the label is right now. Its common sence. Suge is a perfectionaist, he wont come out unless he is the top dog. Those Death Row haters need to sit back and remember Mr Knight had his empire flattened by Tupac dying and Snoop bouncing. He's going to have to go to plan B now.
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Yeah, Crooked is going to do another mixtape before his Mama's Boy album, maybe another couple mixtapes.
I'm happy to hear that-I was pretty happy with Young Boss-still listen to that a lot
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^^ Thats tiiight man. I cant wait till all this happens and Tha Row is ready to start pushing their product out. You given me new found hope in death row and its artists. I wonder what plan b is? ::) 8)
PS: really interesting to know that snoop founded eastwood...
good shit que!
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Que, why does Crooked I go by the name of Crooked I and not by the name of Crooked Me? ??? ???
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^^ Thats tiiight man. I cant wait till all this happens and Tha Row is ready to start pushing their product out. You given me new found hope in death row and its artists. I wonder what plan b is? ::) 8)
PS: really interesting to know that snoop founded eastwood...
good shit que!
yeah really interesting
a few weeks ago I saw a album called tribute to snoop or something like that and I looked at the back and there was a song with snoop and eastwood
never heard it though cause I didn't cop the album(or maybe it was a bootleg)
I just hope we'll hear some new material from death row while we wait for the official releases
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What's up MOB & Kelly!! I could hit you on MSN but I thought I would reply here:
Eastwood, came out with Dunn Deal Record's when he started, he was "Young Eastwood", they were affiliated with Snoop Dogg and used to record at Raleigh Studios. Snoop and Dunn Deal's CEO 'Magic' used to roll together doing charities, giveaways for kids and stuff in South Central. This was back in 98.
In fact do you remember the movie soundtrack to "Xchange"? back in 1998 maybe 99? Not many people knew about this release but it featured, Snoop Dogg, Tha Dogg Pound, Eastwood, Gotti Gotti, Sanyika Shakur, South Central Cartel and other westcoasters. The Gail Gotti track was with Noble and E.D.I. of tha Outlawz and was recorded the SAME DAY Tupac died!
Holla.
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^^ crazy! man, i aint never heard of that soundtrack, ill keep my eyes open for it...all i can say is: wow! :) its too bad eastwood n snoop have "beef" now, eh? lol was the soundtrack bumpin or what??
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Let me guess...you own a copy of the soundtrack ;D
It must be very rare
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Man I don't even have that CD anymore but yeah it was good. SOMEWHERE I have the photo's of Snoop Dogg going one-on-one with Eastwood at Locke High School in LA at a chairty basketball game in 98. If I dig them up I'll post them here.
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Have a look for it, XCHANGE the movie was dedicated to Tupac Shakur, the lead character was a big Tupac fan and the Soundtrack was released on Dunn Deal Records (as I said, Eastwoods first label). I know who has the CD, so when I see him again i'll get it and post some songs here or something, the tracks I remember are:
"Keep My Head To The Sky" by Gotti Gotti feat. Noble & EDI of Tha Outlawz
"Story To Tell" by Kurupt and Snoop
"Articulate Thug" by Ras Kass & Eastwood
"High Times" Eastwood
and there was another solo Gail Gotti track and Daz was on it too.
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^^ good shit que!! I would love to hear them eastwood tracks, especially the gail gotti and outlaw tracks...much props n love homie... 8) next time i hit up the record store, ill see wassup with it!
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Have a look for it, XCHANGE the movie was dedicated to Tupac Shakur, the lead character was a big Tupac fan and the Soundtrack was released on Dunn Deal Records (as I said, Eastwoods first label). I know who has the CD, so when I see him again i'll get it and post some songs here or something, the tracks I remember are:
"Keep My Head To The Sky" by Gotti Gotti feat. Noble & EDI of Tha Outlawz
"Story To Tell" by Kurupt and Snoop
"Articulate Thug" by Ras Kass & Eastwood
"High Times" Eastwood
and there was another solo Gail Gotti track and Daz was on it too.
Or you just hook me up exclusively so I can send them to an mp3 group and I get 0day access.
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Cool.
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or save them for westcoastaftershock vol3 ;)
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or save them for westcoastaftershock vol3 ;)
My idea was better >:(
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Look what I found ;):
Young Eastwood "High Times" (http://www.soundclick.com/util/bandradios/streamMP3.cfm?q=Hi&ID=1428876&myUID=5F55E401-000E-440B-B28FFEA5C1051804&cache=870068&proID=0&bandID=186498&s=s.mp3)
(Click here if that link doesnt work: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/westcoastaftershockmusic.htm)
Remember this was material from Eastwoods days signed to Dunn Deal Records, around 1998. High Times is probelly the best Eastwood track ive heard, its funky. I have a few oldies of his.
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it sounds really good
thanks que! (http://www.rap2k.com/forums/html/emoticons/prosterne.gif)
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Its cool homie. Eastwood is good, his mixtape did him no justice.
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great thread. just waiting for QUE to hook some crooked i songs. anything will do.
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Ok. I just spoke to someone at Death Row. I may have some good news for you this week.
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Ok. I just spoke to someone at Death Row. I may have some good news for you this week.
I can't wait to hear this news.
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thanks for the track...and cant wait to hear the news 8)
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Hey Que,
Thanks for all the info so far. If you need some space posting some of these files I would like to try and help. Dont' know how long they'll last with such an eager crowd. Please let me know if you are interested... colecovizion on msn or aim (prefer aim). This has been a long time coming for people who were into him back in 98 and 99!
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If you aren't interested.... I'd love to get my vote in for "the slap back" to be posted. I think one of the hardest rhymes that crook ever said was "how the fuck can a tight rap start with fo shizzle.. is his bird-ass chest crooked carves his initials". i love snoop.. but damn i would cry if i heard that shit. can't wait to hear more, because rap in general, has lost its mind!
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Ok. I just spoke to someone at Death Row. I may have some good news for you this week.
nice 1 que.its good 2 hear some dr news...
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Hey Que, cool shit your spittin, my request is how bout you post like a full album from back in the days that never got released and probabaly never will, like i mean, that inside our comp, or dogg pound dogg shit, or the old db album or the old crooked. cause comon man you know some of that shit wont ever see the light of day, so why not share it with the fans. anyways if you could do that it would be appreciated. plus i really doubt you would get in trouble cause im sure many other people have access to those tracks too.
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Nobody has access to some of the stuff I have, 2 people have Danny Boy's album and Frank Alexander isnt one. His comments about the DB album in his book was judged strictly on a few songs he heard once. Nobody has Crooked I's "Untouchable" album. The CD GODBODY has is a selection of tracks from 2001, he got from Hutch or on his visit to Death Row's crib. Some people have Death Row Inside Out compilation, I'll see about posting some songs off that when I can. I have Top Dogg's Death Row album and about 45 tracks from Tha Realest's time on Death Row, unheard ones.
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read on afew site people sayin dr have signed 2-3 new artists.any truth in that???
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you should put some DB songs, que!! lol ;D preferably inseperable n others...sall goood
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damn that eastwood track is tight i can't believe i never heard about this soundtrack... gotta try and hunt that one down now... que droppin crazy knowledge... thanx for keepin us informed...
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read on afew site people sayin dr have signed 2-3 new artists.any truth in that???
petey pablo?
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do u know if he's signed?
and a few people are saying dr signed 2 more artists
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I stopped postin on the DynastyRecords forum A while back, you always give great post, Ive got so much info from this thread, thanx Que
If you could give us any new or old Crook songs that be awesome ;)
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Que so you can't hook it up with any old DR albums? im talking about the ones you know wont see the light of day
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Que so you can't hook it up with any old DR albums? im talking about the ones you know wont see the light of day
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of course he cant..
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the albums that are never gonna see light of day would be last on his list to leak, especially to such a popular forum like WCC...
as has always been the case, if music leaks/surfaces then it does, until then worry about what other music there is if you really love hip hop... u dont think it kills me knowing all these awesome albums are locked away?
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everything comes out in the end somehow...
with crooked i, i see it like this...
when he drops an album on another label i think tha row will put out a bunch of what they're got..
just like they've done with snoop and tha dogg pound.
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and if its notdropping then,
it WILL drop, when he's been shot to death! ;D
ima death row fan, but couldnt resist posting this idea... 8)
so dont hate on me ::)
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I'll put some songs on my website or something. I don't think posting a full album on a public site is a good idea though :-\
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man if you need webspace pm me ill give you access !! ;D 8)
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Thanks im cool with webspace though. I have www.xscinc.com. I'll post some music when I get chance.
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I'll put some songs on my website or something. I don't think posting a full album on a public site is a good idea though :-\
thats dope mayne..props
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question for que :D
you talked about the r&b side for death row with Knight time entertainment and since now they are doing business with petey pablo,do u know is suge plans to start a death row south/east?
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I'll put some songs on my website or something. I don't think posting a full album on a public site is a good idea though :-\
Yeah your right, how bout AIM or MSN? ;D
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on AIM: xscinccom
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read on afew site people sayin dr have signed 2-3 new artists.any truth in that???
petey pablo?
they took the posts about petey pablo off the dr site.even am7 took his own post about him off.....
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anyone else think that Danny Boy song sounds a lot like that song "Nobody knows" by Tony Rich Project which came out a few years ago?
maaaaad props to the info posted on this page from Nino and Damon. I got an old eastwood track as well, i think it was from that Xchange soundtrack called "Ride"
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Yeah "Ride" by Rass Kass and Eastwood.
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i fuckin envy u man... i been a big death row fan since i was a kid id die 2 get my hands on some of the shit u got but it's nuthin new... i been known bout peeps like nino havin shit im coo wit it but it suxx in a way cuz ill never get 2 hear alot of the shit and i think snippets make it even worse cuz than u fiend for the music but than again it's better than nuthin i guess... i just wish death row would clear out there fuckin vaults and release all this shit for the real die hard fans except i dunno if they'd even sell... ofcourse the older fans that been down with death row for years would cop the albums... these young kids growin up just getting into rap though are too brainwashed by the sensless propaganda and media hype...
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honestly,if death row released albums from the vaults,I think people would be bootleging it
so the best thing to do is leak a few snippets or let suge and death row releae them on compilations or as a bonus(maybe he's going to do it with the cd that's coming with his book)
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I don't think he can really put out anymore old material other than the Yupac Live CD & DVD, or people will just say hes living in the past. I don't see Kurupt's album dropping in 2004 either. But with the Row you never know.
Remember the song "Doggystyle" by Snoop Doggy Dogg featuring George Clinton & Jewell. Classic raritie from that label.
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do you have that in cdq?
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do you have that in cdq?
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Don't think so. I have the DPG version of "Cant C Me" and Dr Dre ft J Flexx "Street Scholars" cristal CDQ and a host of tracks from the Dogg Pound, thanks to Tony Best sending me a few CD's back in 99 the guy mentioned inside DPG "Dogg Food" thank you's, Dedicato from Aftermathmusic knows TB now. I put tape rips of them online a couple years ago, very high quality versions.
I don't know if you remember Shortyo releasing a track featuring Daz on his album in 2002? Shortyo.com. Well that accapella came from me, TB sent me the CDQ Pressed copy of the 96 track, Daz & Soopafly "Fresh" Dirty, Clean, Instrumental and Accapella.
"Can't C Me" from the Dogg Pound, was orginally a track with Ice Cube and Dr. Dre for the Helter Skelter album that never came to be. Then DPG wanted it on their album Dogg Food as their fist single.
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http://revelation.phpwebhosting.com/wca/tharow.htm
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yea none of the songs work, peace.
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Whatever happened to Shakira?
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Whatever happened to Shakira?
Yeah she had a lovely butt...I miss her
Hey Que I was reading that Crooked I interview that he did yesterday and he reiterated lots of the stuff you were saying like how hes going to put out a few mixtapes before his album and how he isnt going to use any of his old tracks on his upcoming album..thanks for the news on him-Ive learnt alot from this thread
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do you have the kurupt & k-solo freestyle from 1993 about 5 min long
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^ I have that one, its like high-tape quality i think
kurupt rapped over Gin N Juice..
hey Que, how come CANT C ME didnt appear on dogg food then? cuz pac wanted it or what?
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Conor whats up man. Crooked told me a long time ago he was going to do a few mixtapes this year, so I expect a couple more before his official album. You notice he mentioned Humpty Hump & Sucka Free again, they are - very close - affiliates with Dynasty Records.
Megaveli, that song hit the net a couple years ago, wasnt it from 94/95? During K Solo's Death Row days.
Shakira just released the Off the Record DVD documentary and live CD, and is recording a new album, not that you really wanted to know ;)
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^ I have that one, its like high-tape quality i think
kurupt rapped over Gin N Juice..
hey Que, how come CANT C ME didnt appear on dogg food then? cuz pac wanted it or what?
Hi Rudki, "Can't C Me" was orginally a track by Ice Cube and Dr Dre, for the Helter Skelter album that never came out. Then the Dogg Pound wanted to use if for their Dogg Food LP and have it as the 1st single. But Suge decided that no Dre produced tracks would appear on Dogg Food. Like I said before, Dre did a remix of "Dogg Pound Gangstas" too.
Then Tupac decided to use it on the All Eyez On Me album, he came across 3 Dre beats he liked: "Cant C me", "BluntTyme" (originally a song with 2Pac, Dre and Rage which later re-surfaced on the Aftermath compilation featuring RBX) and "Cali Love" which was orginally a solo song for Dre's new album The New World Odor: Papas Got a Brand New Funk. "Blynt Tyme" didn't make the final cut. But...after some persuasion Pac decided to go with "Cali Love" and "Cant C Me", so he erased the DPG vocals and Dre's second verse from those respective songs. In other words, you have a truly RARE song from the once-powerful Death Row Records. If and when the original "Cali Love" (with just Dre) and "Blunt Tyme" re-surface, they will immediately become collectors items. These are no speculations, just straight up facts.
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Conor whats up man. Crooked told me a long time ago he was going to do a few mixtapes this year, so I expect a couple more before his official album. You notice he mentioned Humpty Hump & Sucka Free again, they are - very close - affiliates with Dynasty Records.
Megaveli, that song hit the net a couple years ago, wasnt it from 94/95? During K Solo's Death Row days.
Shakira just released the Off the Record DVD documentary and live CD, and is recording a new album, not that you really wanted to know ;)
I did, thats why I asked, lol...she just dissapeared and I was wondering what happened
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i remember reading somewhere that Got My Mind Made Up was meant to be a Dogg Pound song and was going to be on Dogg Food as well-do you know if theres any truth in that?
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not sure about that one.
just though of another one some of ya'll might not know about..
The Dre track Zoom with LL Cool J from the bullworth soundtrack was initially a Snoop/Dre track (which has leaked).
it was originally intended for the dre/snoop project called "break ups to make ups"
rumour is suge stopped the snoop and dre one being released
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Thx for all those informations Que 8)
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Seer havent heard that Dre & LL track, I never downloaded it back in the day. Is there anywhere to hear it online? I totally forgot about those 2 tracks, this thread should be called the "Death Row Vault"...
Conor, thats the truth, the track from All Eyez On Me "Got My Mind Made Up" was originally recorded by the Dogg Pound, the Lady of Rage & and Inspector Deck. Tupac then re-made the song for his album. Pac replaced Rage's verse and the additional verse from Inspectah Deck was cut although his remaining vocals were left right at the end, listen out for "INS The Rebel".
Inspectah Deck aka INS The Rebel!
Excellent post Conor. . .
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G3ne its cool. . .
Theres so much contraversy surounding that label its unreal, I was told something that I can never post here at a public site, that was a complete 'eye turner' concerning Tupac's "Makaveli: 7 Day Theory" album. Without naming names I work for 2 artists that were featured on the album, and both told me the same. The album had a Deadline!
If any Tupac heads want to hit me on AOL (xscinccom) i'll tell you.
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^^ awesome...you gonna drop any more death row tracks?
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I hope there will be a song or a snippet on westcoastaftershockvol2 ;)
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G3ne its cool. . .
Theres so much contraversy surounding that label its unreal, I was told something that I can never post here at a public site, that was a complete 'eye turner' concerning Tupac's "Makaveli: 7 Day Theory" album. Without naming names I work for 2 artists that were featured on the album, and both told me the same. The album had a Deadline!
If any Tupac heads want to hit me on AOL (xscinccom) i'll tell you.
sep7??
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Seer havent heard that Dre & LL track, I never downloaded it back in the day. Is there anywhere to hear it online? I totally forgot about those 2 tracks, this thread should be called the "Death Row Vault"...
I can hook you up with the zoom tracks, the version with Snoop instead of LL is better but I only have that one in non-cd-q :-\
anyone who got it in cd-q ?
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It's cool thanks, the homie "Crooked_I" on this forum hooked it up. xover, basically they had a - very - short deadline to complete the material for the album. MOB & Kelly, something may pop up ;)
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it prolly did have some sort of deadline, since Pac was playing it in the car that he was in that night in vegas
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So you mean they rushed it..? How long did they have to complete it and how much of it was done before Tupac died?
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It was all finnished before Pac passed. They rushed it yeah.
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post the tracklist. it aint like that can hurt
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It never really sounded like it was that rushed to me-It a pretty dark and strange album though-I always wonered though why he didnt have his usual people like Johnny J and Daz Dillinger doing some of the production and Snoop,Kurupt,Danny Boy and Nate Dogg ect on it like on All Eyez On Me-Snoop and Daz were busy with the Doggfather so maybe thats not why there on it..I guess he wanted to make a more personal and darker album..
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Danny Boy was on the Makaveli album, "Toss It Up". They didnt have the regular people porducing on it because of the urgency it was recorded. I heard Tupac & Snoop wernt really close towards the end of 96, which is why Tupac wasnt on the Doggfather LP either.
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Oh shit yeah I forgot about Toss It Up
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Yeah they were real good friends. Tupac was on Danny Boy's Death Row 96 album 2 times, one Intro and one full track.
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Yeah I think I read in Frank Alexander's book that Danny Boy was one of the people who was most upset when Tupac passed away or at least the person who showed it the most-What was that full track with him and Danny Boy like?
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They recorded Makaveli in like 9 days or something. I can't believe some of ya'll didn't know.
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They recorded Makaveli in like 9 days or something. I can't believe some of ya'll didn't know.
7 days. You can also hear 2pac say "The 3 day theory" or some shit like that in a song. I forgot.
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What was that full track with him and Danny Boy like?
Danny Boy featuring Tupac Shakur produced by David Blake aka DJ Quik!
That says it all!
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Man this is the best thread I've ever seen. Thanks for all the information Que, now I understand why Death Row doesn't release material on a consistent basis.
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Man this is the best thread I've ever seen. Thanks for all the information Que, now I understand why Death Row doesn't release material on a consistent basis.
Good looking man, we all made some cool topics in here, thats true. Here's something I found out back in the day that I thought was cool:
Bloody Mary & RedRum from the Bangin on Wax vulumes were signed to Death Row as a group. Back in 96 when Dre left Death Row, Suge gave out several contracts to producers. One was DJ Ezcut, this guy has been around for years and worked with my friend DJ Slip back in the day on some projects, hes a radio DJ now, anyway, Ezcut was one of many producers over there, one of the projects he was involved with was. . .
The group album by Bloody Mary & RedRum. They were signed as a group to Death Row Records in 1997. Bloody Mary & RedRum were from the Bloods and Crips: Bangin On Wax volumes: http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/westcoastrydaz/pirulove_lyrics.htm
Thats another completed album locked in Mr Knights vaults.
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thx for info Que
so many albums locked in the vault..... same we wont see 99 percent of them
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They recorded Makaveli in like 9 days or something. I can't believe some of ya'll didn't know.
Saracasm?
He says 3 day theory as the vocals for the album were supposedly done in 3 days, but the album was completed in 7 days... Either he titled it the 7 days theory himself once the album was completed, or Suge tweaked the name slightly for contraversy (you all know the 7 day bs)
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Que: how the fuck did you get all this information and shit ???
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They recorded Makaveli in like 9 days or something. I can't believe some of ya'll didn't know.
Saracasm?
He says 3 day theory as the vocals for the album were supposedly done in 3 days, but the album was completed in 7 days... Either he titled it the 7 days theory himself once the album was completed, or Suge tweaked the name slightly for contraversy (you all know the 7 day bs)
he said he the album was written, recorded, and produced in 3 days. but with the mixing & pressing - 7 days.
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Que: how the fuck did you get all this information and shit ???
Edit: Removed because this post "hurted Ninos fame"
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They recorded Makaveli in like 9 days or something. I can't believe some of ya'll didn't know.
Saracasm?
He says 3 day theory as the vocals for the album were supposedly done in 3 days, but the album was completed in 7 days... Either he titled it the 7 days theory himself once the album was completed, or Suge tweaked the name slightly for contraversy (you all know the 7 day bs)
why do you feel offended? i didn't even mean you :-\
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its good 2 read all this dr stuff.by far 1 of the best threads.
its a fuckin shame that dbs album did not drop back then....
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It's cool thanks, the homie "Crooked_I" on this forum hooked it up. xover, basically they had a - very - short deadline to complete the material for the album. MOB & Kelly, something may pop up ;)
was that not pac at his best?? doin things real quick...
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que, can u post the tracklist for the crooked i albums u got?
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It's cool thanks, the homie "Crooked_I" on this forum hooked it up. xover, basically they had a - very - short deadline to complete the material for the album. MOB & Kelly, something may pop up ;)
was that not pac at his best?? doin things real quick...
I think you may be right-What I like about that album is the way he seems so focused
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Yeah, for the Makaveli album - 3 days for lyrics, and 7 days to mix + finish. 7 Day Theory is by far my favorite album of all time, so I try and grab info on it when I can. Here are a few things that I know. Que if you know any more stuff about it, or anyone else, it would be great to know! Sorry to turn this away from Crooked for a bit.... but it is more of a DR post
* Hail Mary was written (both beat and lyrics) and recorded in under 30 minutes. It was practically a freestyle on Pac's part.
* Pac contributed a lot to the beats on DK7, especially Bomb First, he did a lot of the piano himself
* DK7 was an album intended to be sold at swap meets, it was strictly for the hood according to Pac
* DK7 was considered by Pac to be his best album of all time
* Pac was humbled by his own lyrics on "Blasphemy" (from comments by the Outlawz)
* "Friends" was intended to be part of the track list, but got cut
Man it would be sweet to see video of him ripping up the mic on this album.
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Yeah, for the Makaveli album - 3 days for lyrics, and 7 days to mix + finish. 7 Day Theory is by far my favorite album of all time, so I try and grab info on it when I can. Here are a few things that I know. Que if you know any more stuff about it, or anyone else, it would be great to know! Sorry to turn this away from Crooked for a bit.... but it is more of a DR post
* Hail Mary was written (both beat and lyrics) and recorded in under 30 minutes. It was practically a freestyle on Pac's part.
* Pac contributed a lot to the beats on DK7, especially Bomb First, he did a lot of the piano himself
* DK7 was an album intended to be sold at swap meets, it was strictly for the hood according to Pac
* DK7 was considered by Pac to be his best album of all time
* Pac was humbled by his own lyrics on "Blasphemy" (from comments by the Outlawz)
* "Friends" was intended to be part of the track list, but got cut
Man it would be sweet to see video of him ripping up the mic on this album.
yeah another example where deathrow took one of the best songs from a cd and put it on a soundtrack
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Nice info to know, and it's a shame so much music is locked up, but it's really pointless if you think about. I myself just enjoy the music that's out. Also, hopefully this has changed a few people's opinion on Suge. He didn't make Deathrow, and he wasn't any kind of a "genius".
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why do you feel offended? i didn't even mean you :-\
Nah I wasnt offended, I thought u were kidding about the 9 days thing though, coz its pretty well known it was done in 3, and completed as a product in 7 days...
Sven, wtf did u originally say? lol Why would u defame him
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colecovizion, without naming names, I was told they had a deadline to that album that was a matter of hours, which is partly why not the regular people were involved, ??? was called on the Saturday and told "We need you in LA on Monday at the latest to record this song for the new 2Pac album" ??? said they couldnt make it until LATE in the week. They said that it couldnt be that late, so ??? had to drop all plans and Death Row braught them back to LA to record the song.
I was told a few more things that I really shouldnt post.
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There some interesting facts colecovizion..I would have been nice to have the OG version of Friends on it-I really like the chorus to that song-the way Tupac sings it-The Deadline was a matter of hours?They must have decided to record it the week before or something
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Question for you Death Row heads:
Who created the name "Death Row Records"?
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I dont have a clue.. I would have thought Suge or Dre..?
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The D.O.C.
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Question for you Death Row heads:
Who created the name "Death Row Records"?
DJ Slip
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I dont have a clue.. I would have thought Suge or Dre..?
they got it from some1 else.they had another name but i 4got it...
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Crooked Mexican is right, DJ Slip from Comptons Most Wanted (now IV Life Records). . .
Dj Slip was one of the original staff producers for the label. It was Slip, Dr. Dre, DJ Unkown, Rhythm D and Chris "The Glove" Taylor. It was originally going to be "Def Row" i.e. "Def Jam". Unknown went and copywrote the name Slip created and sold it to Suge and Dre for $5000. You can check the info for yourself and see that there is a trademark on both Def Row and Death Row.
Back in the day, there used to be a bunch of groups signed to Death Row. Emmage was one of them. Also The Convicts (Big Mike and Lord 3-2) were going to be one of the first ones with a release, but they went back to Rap-A-Lot. Emmage were featured on Comptons Most Wanted's 1992 release 'Music To Driveby' track 15 'U'z A Bitch', you can take a look in the credits & you'l see Emmage appears courtesy of DEATH ROW RECORDS.
I speak to Slip daily, now this was never publicated. But the complete truth. . .
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Crooked Mexican is right, DJ Slip from Comptons Most Wanted (now IV Life Records). . .
Dj Slip was one of the original staff producers for the label. It was Slip, Dr. Dre, DJ Unkown, Rhythm D and Chris "The Glove" Taylor. It was originally going to be "Def Row" i.e. "Def Jam". Unknown went and copywrote the name Slip created and sold it to Suge and Dre for $5000. You can check the info for yourself and see that there is a trademark on both Def Row and Death Row.
Back in the day, there used to be a bunch of groups signed to Death Row. Emmage was one of them. Also The Convicts (Big Mike and Lord 3-2) were going to be one of the first ones with a release, but they went back to Rap-A-Lot. Emmage were featured on Comptons Most Wanted's 1992 release 'Music To Driveby' track 15 'U'z A Bitch', you can take a look in the credits & you'l see Emmage appears courtesy of DEATH ROW RECORDS.
I speak to Slip daily, now this was never publicated. But the complete truth. . .
wheres my prize? :)
hook it up with the full version of Gd up and Banged out!
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You got the info from my old Death Row site back in 2000 ;)
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colecovizion, without naming names, I was told they had a deadline to that album that was a matter of hours, which is partly why not the regular people were involved, ??? was called on the Saturday and told "We need you in LA on Monday at the latest to record this song for the new 2Pac album" ??? said they couldnt make it until LATE in the week. They said that it couldnt be that late, so ??? had to drop all plans and Death Row braught them back to LA to record the song.
I was told a few more things that I really shouldnt post.
Why do you think you shouldnt post these things? I don't understand why it should be top secret that the album was produced und mixed within 7 days, I think many people already heard of this as a rumour. But thx again Que, very nice topic
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G3ne I havent posted what I was told, and I was told it and asked to not repeat it. . .
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another question....
what other two names were considered for death row ?
clue... one fell foul of legal issues, the other i'm not sure what happened..
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Back in 96 when Dre left Death Row, Suge gave out several contracts to producers. One was DJ Ezcut, this guy has been around for years and worked with my friend DJ Slip back in the day on some projects, hes a radio DJ now, anyway, Ezcut was one of many producers over there, one of the projects he was involved with was. . .
Are you talking bout Ezi Cut? He's from my neck of the woods (Denmark). He's done a bunch of stuff both in the states & Denmark....among them 2Pac...It's probably the same guy but I never knew he was down with Death Row for a second.
He's very tight with Madness 4 Real (one of the best producer-teams ever...who also happen to be danish) who produced Cube, Eazy-E, Lench Mob, MC Ren, BG Knoccout & Dresta, etc. etc. etc. They were contracted to Ruthless for some years. Continuing the Denmark/Westcoast-history, Soulshock & Karlin of 2Pac fame (Me Against The World) also represent Denmark :)
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i'm pretty sure one of the names they were going to call deathrow was future shock but im not sure of the other
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^ yup thats one...
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Que is it true Death Row asked Warren G to join them back in '99?
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^^^^ you do know that fisher is off the lakers right?
and que, can you leak some tracks off the NOTR album? I would luv to hear that shit.
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Que is it true Death Row asked Warren G to join them back in '99?
"I could have signed with Death Row, but I didn't"
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^^ yuuup
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Que is it true Death Row asked Warren G to join them back in '99?
"I could have signed with Death Row, but I didn't"
I always assumed that line was referring to him signing back in 93 or 94
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According to someone that has appeared on 3 Warren G albums, they told me Warren G was offered a deal to join Death Row in 1999/2000. Antonio I believe you speak or used to speak with them online ;).
JohnDoe, I dont think so homie. The DJ Ezcutt I mean is from Cali, Suge signed him to Death Row in 97, right after Dre left the label. He's worked with a host of artists back in the day from Crooked I, Bloody Mary & RedRum, MC Eiht etc. He currently has his own hip-hop radio show.
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another question....
what other two names were considered for death row ?
clue... one fell foul of legal issues, the other i'm not sure what happened..
Def row?
Like Def Jam, right?
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nino already said that one above...
there is another one
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So...Def Row and future shock or not ???
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i just said no!.. there was 1 more name that they wanted to run with that ran into legal issues..
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Funky Enough Records
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Funky Enough Records
i wasn't thinking of that one.. i think that might have been another rumoured one though.
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Ok Ive a question that Ive always wanted to konw the answer to-Why is there non Death Row songs on there Greatest Hits Cd? I mean songs like No Vaseline which came out on Priority I think and pre Death Row Tupac songs?
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Godfather Ent?
I do believe Funky Enough Records was one they tried to use...
Also what was Dre wanting Aftermath to be called? Quiz time lol
To the above, Suge wanted diss records, add it up. Never been sure about the Pre Death Row Pac songs though, saving the others for GH2 or Pac's album wasnt done when they planned it.
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Ok Ive a question that Ive always wanted to konw the answer to-Why is there non Death Row songs on there Greatest Hits Cd? I mean songs like No Vaseline which came out on Priority I think and pre Death Row Tupac songs?
^ in the Ronin Ro book the reason give is "suge's venom" towards dre...
toby.. nope and nope! that was supposed to be the parent comany originally though..
that last one is a weak guess :P
this other one is also the one that had 'legal issues' so think about that too!
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Def Road Records
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no
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Funky Enough Records was suge Knights first record label that folded before they started deathrow
and Def Road Records was a possible name from DJ Unknown
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fair enough... but they aren't the ones i'm looking for.
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Godfather Ent?
I do believe Funky Enough Records was one they tried to use...
Also what was Dre wanting Aftermath to be called? Quiz time lol
To the above, Suge wanted diss records, add it up. Never been sure about the Pre Death Row Pac songs though, saving the others for GH2 or Pac's album wasnt done when they planned it.
i think dre wanted to call it Black Market Records.
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^^^ we have a winner! ^^^
* dishes out a prop *
and the other part is this..
as you may know there is a label based in that bay that is already called that, rumour is the owner was offered $100,000 for the name but turned it down.
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^^^ we have a winner! ^^^
* dishes out a prop *
and the other part is this..
as you may know there is a label based in that bay that is already called that, rumour is the owner was offered $100,000 for the name but turned it down.
im confused...who is the winner????
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wballlz187
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wballlz187
yeah but i think he talked about aftermath ...lol
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bah :p lol
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Whats the mixtape with the Tupac & Kurupt "Still Ballin" original accapella, with a fake beat?
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Whats the mixtape with the Tupac & Kurupt "Still Ballin" original accapella, with a fake beat?
dj vlad's "old gangsters young guns"
man that beat/chorus was out of place
but kurupts accapella was good shit
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I'm listening now on his site. He's taken off Kurupt's 1st verse on the song. Still Ballin original has 2 verses from Kurupt and this beat sounds nothing like the original.
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In the ronin ro book he says Dre wanted to name aftermath black market but couldnt cuz ced singleton wanted too much money for the name, that wasnt a name for the row.
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I'm listening now on his site. He's taken off Kurupt's 1st verse on the song. Still Ballin original has 2 verses from Kurupt and this beat sounds nothing like the original.
True.
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^^^ we have a winner! ^^^
* dishes out a prop *
and the other part is this..
as you may know there is a label based in that bay that is already called that, rumour is the owner was offered $100,000 for the name but turned it down.
thats brotha lynch hung's old label. I forget who the owner of it all is, some guy who tried screwing lynch
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somethign in my head says cedric.. but i'm not sure..
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somethign in my head says cedric.. but i'm not sure..
Yeah u right Overseer...cant remember the last name dough.
Peace
LazyL
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I'm listening now on his site. He's taken off Kurupt's 1st verse on the song. Still Ballin original has 2 verses from Kurupt and this beat sounds nothing like the original.
That's because he mixed it with Conway's "Nutcracka" beat.
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^^^ we have a winner! ^^^
* dishes out a prop *
and the other part is this..
as you may know there is a label based in that bay that is already called that, rumour is the owner was offered $100,000 for the name but turned it down.
thats brotha lynch hung's old label. I forget who the owner of it all is, some guy who tried screwing lynch
Yeah, and because of that a rumor started that Dre was actually trying to sign Lynch to his label, but that wasn't true at all. Would've been dope as fuck to hear Lynch over Dre beats though.
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Que, just a few random questions if you got the time :
1)Who owns the masters to the Outlawz Retribution album? Do you have any info on it concerning production, guests and if it will ever come out?
2)Does deathrow own any 2pac tracks that Afeni doesn't?
3)It it true the outlawz have recorded a track with Crooked I for a mixtape?
4)What artists has Crooked I worked with since leaving deathrow?
5)How many songs have there been recorded for the upcoming Crooked I album?
Thanks for you time.
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somethign in my head says cedric.. but i'm not sure..
Yeah u right Overseer...cant remember the last name dough.
cedric the entertainer
:P ;D
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;D
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In the ronin ro book he says Dre wanted to name aftermath black market but couldnt cuz ced singleton wanted too much money for the name, that wasnt a name for the row.
This is true. Black Market WASN'T a possible name for Deathrow. It was the original name for Aftermath.
Back in the day, there used to be a bunch of groups signed to Death Row. Emmage was one of them. Also The Convicts (Big Mike and Lord 3-2) were going to be one of the first ones with a release, but they went back to Rap-A-Lot. Emmage were featured on Comptons Most Wanted's 1992 release 'Music To Driveby' track 15 'U'z A Bitch', you can take a look in the credits & you'l see Emmage appears courtesy of DEATH ROW RECORDS.
fyi,
Emmage also appeared on The Deep Cover soundtrack courtesy of Deathrow Records.
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Que, just a few random questions if you got the time :
1)Who owns the masters to the Outlawz Retribution album? Do you have any info on it concerning production, guests and if it will ever come out?
2)Does deathrow own any 2pac tracks that Afeni doesn't?
3)It it true the outlawz have recorded a track with Crooked I for a mixtape?
4)What artists has Crooked I worked with since leaving deathrow?
5)How many songs have there been recorded for the upcoming Crooked I album?
Thanks for you time.
1) I know nothing at all about the Outlawz, never been a fan, never spoken to any of them.
2) To my knowledge Afeni owns the entire Tupac legacy, all of the material he recorded throughout his carreer. Although if material was recorded while he was contracted or with Death Row then Suge has certain rights to that. Thats why you still see the Death Row logo on Better Dayz, Until The End Of Time albums etc. Afeni has to pay artists OFF of Tupac songs, e.g. Storm was paid an amount to have her vocals replaced by SKG I believe, on the Until The End Of Time album. Songs such as Danny Boy feat. Tupac which was recorded for DB's Death Row 96 album is Suge's property but couldnt release it without Afeni's autherisation, (Afeni has rights to the Tupac verse, but couldnt release it without Suges authority).
3) I havent heard about a Crooked I & Outlawz collaboration.
4) A lot, such as, Wu Tang, RZA, Lil Flip, Game, producers Rick Rock, Jim Gettum. Possible in the near future: Battlecat, Dr Dre
5) He's got tracks recorded from this year, but he hasnt started working on the album officially. Some maybe used on it. I don't know. None of them songs your hearing now will be on it though, thats for sure.
Your welcome.
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somethign in my head says cedric.. but i'm not sure..
Yeah u right Overseer...cant remember the last name dough.
Peace
LazyL
Cedric Singleton. A real cool dude, who I had the pleasure to work for, for a hot minute. Hell, his asking price is the norm especially when "stars" want a similiar/exact name for themselves. And I remember hearing Jewel say she came up with the name "Death Row", so there are a million stories out there, although Ronin' Ro was pretty much exact with his book and certain individuals were "looking" for him after the book came out, based on what he wrote.
FYI, I happened to hear quite a bit of songs by 2Pac from Suge's "vault" (master recordings) that are owned by Suge Knight, and have never been released on bootleg or otherwise, but according to the man himself, he will release them (being said circa the year 2000). I don't know the song titles or who produced them, just heard them on DATs. They sounded good, but you hear one 2Pac track, you really heard them all especially with all the songs that have been released since his death. Speakin of which (in case some didn't know and a shameless plug) Cold 187um co-wrote "Ballad Of A Dead Soulja" as well as Eve's "Love Is Blind" (when she was known as Eve Of Destruction, during her first stint at Aftermath).
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hey que what is your favorite db album since you got all of them?
also I read a few months ago db had been working with big r&b artists,could u tell us a lil more or maybe db wants to keep it secret
and do u have any words on the first platinum pearl release?I know u said the compilation was pushed back but I was thinking about the mob stars
and last question:you said you spoke to someone at death row recently and u might give us some good news
could u give us hints? ;)
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whats so great about this tread??
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whats so great about this tread??
lol people just love death row...
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hey que what is your favorite db album since you got all of them?
also I read a few months ago db had been working with big r&b artists,could u tell us a lil more or maybe db wants to keep it secret
and do u have any words on the first platinum pearl release?I know u said the compilation was pushed back but I was thinking about the mob stars
and last question:you said you spoke to someone at death row recently and u might give us some good news
could u give us hints? ;)
Whats up MOB. . .
I couldnt choose Homie. Danny Boy 1996 Debut album is outstanding, plus the fact that DJ Quik produced/mixed 50% of the album (Quik is my joint favorite HipHop producer with DJ Slip of all time) and Death Row was still at its finest hour, has to be the best of DB's work. Plus you had production from Daz, Devante Swing of Jodeci, Kevyn Lewis, Keith Andes and more. Guest appearences from Tupac, Jodeci, Daz & Kurupt, Gina Longo (the white female former Death Row artist). He had that sunglasses trademark, with the shades split into different colors back then and was really backed by Suge. But saying that! Suge is 100% behind DB now and has promised that WHEN the Danny Boy album drops, it will be a ground breaking R&B Death Row release. Suge just needs time to re-shape.
Equally though his material from 2000/present is as good, with a more mature vibe/lyricism. His best - ever - track in my opinion is the unreleased, "Impossible" which is one of the more recent ones, maybe 2/3 years old. That song when released will hit everyone, its my favorite R&B song ever made.
Expect DB to work with Babyface again, Babyface did 'Its Over Now' on the Gridloc'd soundtrack with DB. Apart from that I cant really speak on his projects cause they like to keep things on the DL, but the new platinumpearl.com site should open soon. "The Come Up" compilation looks like it wont happen anytime soon, if at all. MOB STARZ on the rap group that DB has signed and im pleasently waiting on news about Knight Time Entertainment, the R&B side of Suge Knight headed by Danny Boy. p.s. DB will be in stores again soon, but his debut solo doesnt look like its coming until next year.
Death Row news? it was about a possible release and signing, havent heard anymore info so I dont want to start any rumors.
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great thread, its fun reading it, since im a big death row fan...
i even went to channel street back in 98 or so, when i was in the US, beeing 14 going from chinese to chinese just to buy a death row chain...
and finally got it - and i believe its bringing me luck...
i was there b/c of a student exchange programm, and we were in orlando, NY and chicago
and i even wanted to visit danny boy then, b/c i got his address from a US offical site, where he was announced being bankrupt, his full adress was there..
and i guess nobody cared about him then...
im saying this, b/c someone asked whats so great about this thread..
as you can see some ppl really love this record label - no matter what, b/c of the unbelievable great music DR brought to the light of day... and most of us hope that more of that shit will be released through that same label - old shit (being locked in the vaults) and HOPEFULLY new great shit, which would mean that one day, DR will become as strong as it was again - that would be tyte as hell...
Expect DB to work with Babyface again, Babyface did 'Its Over Now' on the Gridloc'd soundtrack with DB. Apart from that I cant really speak on his projects cause they like to keep things on the DL, but the new platinumpearl.com site should open soon. "The Come Up" compilation looks like it wont happen anytime soon, if at all. MOB STARZ on the rap group that DB has signed and im pleasently waiting on news about Knight Time Entertainment, the R&B side of Suge Knight headed by Danny Boy. p.s. DB will be in stores again soon, but his debut solo doesnt look like its coming until next year.-
ok, now my questions to que:
you said DB will be in stores again.. meaning any songs by danny boy or did i miss anything?
meaning on compilations and features or in how far?
second:
petey pablo? whos that?
i never heard anything about that guy, but 2nd ii none mention that name on a track with quik and suga free - not sure what track though
or is petey pablo just a famous (former) drug lord or whatever... and thats why theyre rapping about him? b/c lots of rappers choose their name b/c of famous gangster... or at least famous ppl... like the outlaws, kurupt: young gotti, nas: escobar etc...
is there chance that we'll be able to listen to danny boys first album sometime??
when he blows (hopefully, b/c he deserves it), will he/suge put out his older work?
when not, b/c of what reasons???
i mean, good music keeps good music...
and i dont care whats "in" or "out" right now
i mean, actually i dont want the neptunes to ruin one of his tracks... just an example
im saying this just in case youll answer: the music isnt up to date or something ;D
great thread,
thx for all the infos que
you hopefully know that youre a damn lucky guy!! 8)
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whats so great about this tread??
^average long time fans of death row get to discuss a dynasty and learn shit about the label that we'd never know about otherwise... this is great stuff que, if i was still updating my death row site (http://ssodr.tk) i'd have lots of new info and lots to talk about... damn i can't believe how fast time flies, i remember watchin tha dogg pound performing live on some award show way back when i was like 6 or 7 n ima be 19 in 3 months... suge has so much classic material in the vaults, it's really a shame that'll never see the light of day... i know the younger cats growing up n just getting in2 rap/hiphop don't giva fuck but the die hard death row fans would kill to get there hands on some of the material locked up in the vaults... i really hate the way the rap game is going... it's all changed, i really can't feel much of anything that comes out anymore... it's all the same tired ass shit, the same lyrical content, guns, crack, cars etc.. it gets very boring and monotnous... i can only respect the underground cats comin up cuz the mainstream is fucked... right now i really ain't feelin much of shit... the new Outerspac - Blood and Ashes is ill, one of the hottest albums ive heard in a minute and Chief Kamachi - Cult Status is ill... as for the west coast, as i've gotten older im more about real mcs and actually giva fuck about the lyrical content cuz back in the day when i was young i liked simple ass shit over knockin g-funk beats but now im more about the content, wordplay, metaphors, punchlines etc... althou my first love in rap music will always be the classic g-funk shit primarily released on Death Row circa 92-97... i don't wanna get off topic but this is a great thread and i want to thank every1 that's contributing to it... I always love remenicisng about the past and learning new facts about my favorite label... Death Row just has to re-establish itself, alot has changed since they were ontop... the game is all fucked up... nothing gets me hyped more than classic g-funk death row bangers... the beats were so funky it was ridiculis...
quick question que... im not sure if u could answer this but what the fuck happpened to Kurt 'Kobane' Couthan? (think that's how u spell it). I thought he was one of the best producers Death Row had back in 99...
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and one other thing is.. for -new- fans.. its great for them to hear this stuff :)
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An-Tony-O Montana, I was supposed to work on a website with mr Kurt 'Kobane' Couthon a year or 2 ago, I just called him but his phone is off, he's back in Chicago and has his own production company with veteran rick clifford. He produced some recent stuff for Juvenile. Did you know, the song "M.O.B." on Tupac's 'Until the End of Time' album was originally produced by Kurt Kobane, they recorded it together in 1995.
DPG4Life, that was interersting what you said about Danny's address, you're correct, not many people know how he got off Death Row. In August 2000 he filed a bankrupcy to dissafirm his contract with Death Row Records and dissafirm the creditors that he owed, it went through by Oct 11th, then he was a free agent until Mr Knight braught him back to Death Row a year or so ago. No matter what DB will always be Death Row, its where his heart is.
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you shold try and hook up an interview with him since so many people don't really know a lot about him
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Update that:
I just this second spoke to Kobane, he's still producing and about to work with Fat Joe......
KILLAZILLA, To my knowledge nobody knows what he ever looked like either, so I just asked him to email me some pictures, here they are never seen before photos of Kurt Kobane:
(http://www.xoimage.com/me &juvenile{in green}.jpg) (http://www.xoimage.com/Me in studio with a grammy award.jpg) (http://www.xoimage.com/kobane.jpg)
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thanks for the hook up. I always wondered what he looked like. I would love to hear more stuff from him along with sam sneed. Do you know anything about what sam sneed is up too. It would tight to hear sam sneed and crooked i do some stuff together.
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ok, now my questions to que:
you said DB will be in stores again.. meaning any songs by danny boy or did i miss anything?
meaning on compilations and features or in how far?
second:
petey pablo? whos that?
is there chance that we'll be able to listen to danny boys first album sometime??
when he blows (hopefully, b/c he deserves it), will he/suge put out his older work?
when not, b/c of what reasons???
i mean, good music keeps good music...
and i dont care whats "in" or "out" right now
i mean, actually i dont want the neptunes to ruin one of his tracks... just an example
im saying this just in case youll answer: the music isnt up to date or something ;D
great thread,
thx for all the infos que
you hopefully know that youre a damn lucky guy!! 8)
Whats up DPG4Life. The only problem were faced with the 96 album material is that Danny Boy recorded that nearly 10 years ago and hes changed a lot, I guess you can say hes matured. He doesnt sing about the same stuff he sang when he was a teenager. Do you remember the song "Rock N Roll" that he sang live at the House of Blues show with Tupac? that song is a classic but he said he wont ever release it because of the songs lyrical content. But saying that they do have some material that is still fresh, not dated and could be used. He's got a song with Mary J Blige that he plans to put out. I'll get back to you about when and where DB will be in stores next, but hopefully its going to be soon ;).
Petey pablo is a new Hip Hop artist, he had that song Freak A Leek or something recently.
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thanks for the hook up. I always wondered what he looked like. I would love to hear more stuff from him along with sam sneed. Do you know anything about what sam sneed is up too. It would tight to hear sam sneed and crooked i do some stuff together.
Your welcome. Sam Sneed has his own production company, "Street Scholars Entertainment", he did a song with JT Money back along I know that. I dont know what projects hes working on though. I'll ask someone who may know.
Its 3AM here, i'll hit you back tommorow :)
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thanks again for the info. i just checked and remembered that sam sneed produced the song i smell pussy on the g-unit album but besides that i haven't heard anything else from him besides those 2 songs that leaked out last year. one was called golden child but i cant remember the other
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ok, thx 4 the info
so it was 2000... hmm - was 16 then ;D
damn, how the time flies :o ;D
to An-Tony-O Montana:
great speech man! i almost feel the same way..
new shit that comes out: im not feeling it
and im sick of new cats coming out, making a pop album and then theyre said to be gangsta-rap or anything... like the "new" snoop or 50cent...
its time for some real MCs to become popular...
DR still needs time,
maybe mr.quik will have some mainstream-success ?!? i dont know exactly what albums hes working on from his own camp...
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This is true. Black Market WASN'T a possible name for Deathrow. It was the original name for Aftermath.
Dont think anyone was saying it was homie...
In a way you are right Damon, as far as hear one Pac song here them all, but still, it would be awesome to have them released one day.
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yap, but only his solo career
so i was thinking about his production on albums of his own camp: hi-c, suga free, 2nd II none etc.
he hopefully continues recruiting new artists and producing their albums,
and maybe one day he recruits someone who gets a lot of attention and publicity
if thatll be the case, i wouldnt only see the artist as a genuius,
i would know who produced the beats and gave tips etc..
thats how i ment it
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thanks for answering que!
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Quik aint retired. . .
I think he's laying low, like the whole westcoast! Everyone out west is afraid to drop right now because we all know westcoast hiphop isnt the force it once was, this is why Suge hasnt put anything out, IV Life Records, Crooked I, DJ Quik etc. Back in 2000-2002 Snoop, Xzibit and Dre braught it back, but its gone quiet again. I think a lot was waiting on Westside Connection to spark the next westcoast movement, but they didnt. Its all on. . . . Snoop, Dre and Game now.
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with all respect... dre and especially snoop wont bring no westcoast back...
hes doing pop music right now, i dont think that anybody thinks on the west, that one can build on the basement he provides....
game: yea, he might move something, if he doesnt end up doing pop also, just like 50cent did...
i was listening to 50cent now for 3 years i think, maybe 4
and i didnt like him from the moment his first aftermath-album came out,
it was 80% pop-music, before he released it i considered him doing gangsta-rap, even as a east coast artist - he released some dope remixes...
and im very afraid with game happens the same
and it would be great if he has success with gangsta-rap, even on the mainstream
not trying to fit in the mainstream, instead fitting the mainstream to him - thats what he needs to do, if he want to move someting on or for the westcoast..
dre? he wont move anything as a solo artist, maybe he produces a tyte westcoast classic for the game - thats all he can do ::)
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Cool, I think they had it from 92-96, then New York came back strong with DMX, Eve, Lox & The Ruff Ryders/Puff Daddy and his people. Then the west got it back when Snoop dropped Bitch Please and they had the Up In Smoke Tour which led to huge releases from Xzibit, Dr Dre, Snoop, Eastsidaz, DJ Quik (Eminem jumped on this success trail). Now G Unit, 50 Cent & Rocafella have had the whole industry locked since 2002.
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ras kass need to get his ass outta jail and work with quik or maybe even dre
he got enormous potential - but he s probably to sharp and political for the mainstream :-[
maybe, DR would be the right camp for him, since DR doesnt really care what their artists are saying on the records
sometimes i got the feeling the more controversial the lyrics are the better it is.. dunno
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Petey pablo is a new Hip Hop artist, he had that song Freak A Leek or something recently.
Petey Pablo is pretty decent IMO.
He had that song "NORTH CAROLINA... COME ON AND RAISE UP" and had some nice timbaland production on his first album. I think it was out in 2000 or 2001 or around that time...
The new album was pretty good too, it's got some nice production and good raps. He's also got that track out with Ciera called "My goodies" or something like that. Check it out and get a feel for him.
It's gonna interesting to see how he fits in on death row.
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but has it yet been confirmed that he has signed? ???
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Thanks for all the info and shit in this thread fellas, especially Que. Props man!
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Update that:
I just this second spoke to Kobane, he's still producing and about to work with Fat Joe......
KILLAZILLA, To my knowledge nobody knows what he ever looked like either, so I just asked him to email me some pictures, here they are never seen before photos of Kurt Kobane:
(http://www.xoimage.com/me &juvenile{in green}.jpg) (http://www.xoimage.com/Me in studio with a grammy award.jpg) (http://www.xoimage.com/kobane.jpg)
^thankx alot for the pics never knew what he looked like til now... i gotta try and find some new kurt kobane beats now...
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Thats Ok. Thanks to you asking, were going to put a Kurt Kobane website up, hopefully this weekend.
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Hey Que man you konw the way you were saying there was 19(I think or maybe it was 17..) songs on the Untouchable album you have,well how many of them were skits?Just wondering cause im not a huge fan of them and im hoping Crooked I isnt either..
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The album I have was what he was going to send for press in 2003. Its 20 tracks deep. You have an intro, a skit, track 19. Outro (followed by track 20, a bonus track). . .
17 solid, full tracks.
Did you see the Mama's Boy tattoo (picture) on www.westcoastdynasty.com. Im sure when his deal with Death Row Records is finally ended his album will be huge. Crooked is going to appear on some mixtapes soon, aswell as dropping another couple free mixtapes on his website and is working on a huge project, that is due this fall, before his solo in 2005, "Mama's Boy".
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The album I have was what he was going to send for press in 2003. Its 20 tracks deep. You have an intro, a skit, track 19. Outro (followed by track 20, a bonus track). . .
17 solid, full tracks.
Did you see the Mama's Boy tattoo (picture) on www.westcoastdynasty.com. Im sure when his deal with Death Row Records is finally ended his album will be huge. Crooked is going to appear on some mixtapes soon, aswell as dropping another couple free mixtapes on his website and is working on a huge project, that is due this fall, before his solo in 2005, "Mama's Boy".
sounds tight.When can we expect the next mixtape?
Have you thought any more about posting the full song to G'd Up & Banged Out?
Thanks
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Yeah thats cool- was just hoping it didnt have about 6 skits or anything on it..skits get old pretty fast..are you talking about the dynasty records compilation? I hope that Horse Shoe Gang song Ride with me is on it-the snippet sounds dope
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The next Crooked I mixtape should be this fall.
The UNHEARD full 5 minute version of "Ride With Me" which features TWO Crooked I Verses, is on Westcoastaftershocks new mixtape, hosted by Crooked I himself: http://www.bayridaz.com/wca/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1580
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Thats cool news but will it be full? I thought G'd Up N Banged Out was meant to be the full version on the last mixtape..Mixtape looks pretty tight
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Ok. . .
Gd Up & Banged Out is 4:41 minutes, the full song only has 2 Crooked I verses, followed by about a minute of just the beat & some Crooked I additional vocals at the end. So technically you have heard the entire song (both verses). . .
"Ride with me" on the WCA Mixtape is the full song, the track on Crooked I's website is only 2:40 minutes, the WCA Mixtape is double that, featuring unheard verses from The Horse Shoe Gang & Crooked I. The final Crooked I verse on that song is one of the sickest verses he has ever spit.
Holla.
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sup yall, first off thanks to Que for all the info, much appreciated
im an iraqi living in australia and been listining to deathrow for a long time now.
i jsut have a few questions for que:
1) i thought crooked i made 2 untouchable albums and one "say hi to the bad guy", which i thought was the one thats was gonna come out on 2003 not the untouchable- is this true
2) im not sure if u heard this, but way back in 2003 i was reading i think westcoast2k.net and they were saying that crooked i was shooting the first video for say hi to the bad guy and then had some comments from him, did u hear about that
3) which untouchable album do u have, the first or the second one, and is it possible for u to give us the track listing?
4) do u have anymore info on the left eye album
5) are we ever gonna hear the danny boy album and the crooked i album you have in full cdq with no tags???
much thanks again for all the info, and i hope u can get back to me on those questions
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sup yall, first off thanks to Que for all the info, much appreciated
im an iraqi living in australia and been listining to deathrow for a long time now.
i jsut have a few questions for que:
1) i thought crooked i made 2 untouchable albums and one "say hi to the bad guy", which i thought was the one thats was gonna come out on 2003 not the untouchable- is this true
2) im not sure if u heard this, but way back in 2003 i was reading i think westcoast2k.net and they were saying that crooked i was shooting the first video for say hi to the bad guy and then had some comments from him, did u hear about that
3) which untouchable album do u have, the first or the second one, and is it possible for u to give us the track listing?
4) do u have anymore info on the left eye album
5) are we ever gonna hear the danny boy album and the crooked i album you have in full cdq with no tags???
much thanks again for all the info, and i hope u can get back to me on those questions
Your welcome. . .
1) Your absolutly correct. He started recording the "Untouchable" LP around 1999 and didnt change the album title to "Say hi to the bad guy", until about 2003. So technically he recorded two "Untouchable" albums, one was complete and ready to drop the SUMMER of 2001, just after Tupac's "Until the End of Time". It didnt get released, so he carried on recording a lot more material during 2001/2002, by the time Suge was getting out he had a whole new album ready still titled, "Untouchable". The 2nd album release didnt drop either, he then changed the title to "Say hi to the bad guy", and recorded yet more material. Most of which is locked over in there vaults.
2) Well the first single from "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" was going to be "Hood Star" produced by the Track Team, from Atlanta. Thats no speculation but a straight fact. But I would have to ask him if they shot a video for it, I honestly dont know.
3) I have the second "Untouchable" LP, of which a lot of the material was still going to be on "Say Hi to the Bad Guy". I'll ask if I can post up a tracklist and samples.
4) All I know about the Left Eye is that according to Danny Boy (who heard the whole thing) it contained Hit after Hit & would top any R&B/Rap chart worldwide. It was supposedly that good. I remember the week DB flew back to LA to re-join Suge & Death Row he went straight to the studio to work on the NINA project. Also I guess you know already, the single was to be Left Eye featuring Tupac: http://www.xoimage.com/50.jpg
5) Thats a question for Suge ;)
Holla anytime, I go on vacation tonight, but if I know the answer when I get online, i'll post it up.
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Suge should release The NINA album after 2pac Live before the end of the year or else it's goin to be to out of date.
Wot Up Que
Do u know if Kurupt recorded a solo album the first time he was on Death Row?
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Que you said you think NINA will nevr be released...are youi sure about that???
because i heard her mother plans to release left eye solo cd(s) and i cant belive that suge just let the shit in the vaults....they could a make a deal like afeni and suge did....just a thought ;)
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Que you said you think NINA will nevr be released...are youi sure about that???
because i heard her mother plans to release left eye solo cd(s) and i cant belive that suge just let the shit in the vaults....they could a make a deal like afeni and suge did....just a thought ;)
i was thinkin the same thing
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I don't know if Kurupt recorded a solo album on Death Row back in the day, I know they all recorded solo material and had seperate studio time, but I dont think he ever started to work on a solo CD before his Antra release.
K.Y.G. I personally don't think the NINA album will ever drop on Death Row Records. Unless as you say, Suge cuts a deal with Left Eye's estate. But IF or WHEN Death Row do put that album out they will need to re-cook most of the songs and remix them because the personell that worked on that album with Left Eye are no longer with or affiliated to Death Row, i.e. Crooked I, Darren Vegas, Ray J etc.
Holla.
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hey Que i remember hearing a rumour a year or two ago that suge asked dj quik to produce crooked i's debut but quik said no because he didn't get paid for the work he did with deathrow years ago. Is there any truth to that.
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Que, whats up with the info on the NOTR album. Tell me about it. Give me any kind of review you can. and upload the album if you want, I don't care if you do, just maybe do it if you want to ya know.
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KillaZilla, that wasnt true (at the time, although Quik did have some issues with Death Row later on, around late 2002/03). . .
Quik did the song on Death Row's Tupac "Until the end of time" album in 2001, and Quik would have been on Crooked I's "Untouchable" album if Death Row released it in 2002. One of the reasons Suge didnt drop his 1st version of "Untouchable" in 2001, was because the guest appearences were at a minimum, he simply had the in-house acts on it, J Valentine was on a track, Tupac was also, & the whole album produced by Vegas, Hutch, Jim Gettum etc. Then in 2002, he started working on the 2nd version of "Untouchable", this was the one Suge was going to put his touch to, by featuring acts like Left Eye, Treach of Naughty By Nature, DJ Quik, Sisqo, Juvenile, Jayo Felony.......and by late 2002 Jah Rule, Irv Gotti, Ashanti, Too Short, Scarface......
The NOTR album was going to come out on the same label as Junior Mafia. It is dope as hell, MC Eiht was all over the album and they had a track called "Anybody Killa" which was good. The intro was true CMW/MC Eiht/Menace to Society, late night creep style. A producer who worked on the album gave me a copy, not even the members of NOTR have a copy.
Holla.
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Que recenty I read an interview dre did with some music mag. Dre said he tried to reach out to crook and death row and give them some beats for the untouchable album but suge rejected them. It must have been back in 01 or 02. Did you believe Dre really did that?
Que Why do you think the snoop dead man walking album was so poor.
Would snoop really have used that material on The Doggumentary Album?
Some of the unrelised songs on his Death Row Greatest Hits album & Dogg Pound 2002 were good though. Would he have used some of that material?
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One of the reasons Suge didnt drop his 1st version of "Untouchable" in 2001, was because the guest appearences were at a minimum, he simply had the in-house acts on it, J Valentine was on a track, Tupac was also, & the whole album produced by Vegas, Hutch, Jim Gettum etc.
That's untrue, "Untouchable" the first and only real version of the album was completed, before Suge was first released from Prison. Since Hutch was "A&R" the project as well I remember from marketing meetings that Hutch, Crook, Suge (and other Death Row executives) had at the label and at WestWorld's Planet West Studio. Hutch asked Crook who he wanted on his album to compliment the tracks that were already completed. I can tell you that 2Pac was not one of them. Crook wanted Method Man, Redman, Eryka Badu, Jada, Nas, etc. on the album. All they were going to do was drop 16 on particular tracks and that was it. I remember that Suge was gung-ho to have Nas, Meth, Red, and Jada on the album and since I could get Meth and Red for dirt cheap(since I used to work for Rza and Wu Tang/Razor Sharp Records), Suge was gonna hit me up with a lil' scrilla for hooking it up. Unfortunately, when everything was a go, Suge pumped the breaks on everything and left the project in limbo, then ATL were released from the label, and Suge wanted Crook to re-do the album with his new in-house producers, which was still Triple 7 Productions, then whoever else he hired. Quik never did a track with Crook when Untouchable was first recorded.
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I can tell you that 2Pac was not one of them. Crook wanted Method Man, Redman, Eryka Badu, Jada, Nas, etc. on the album. All they were going to do was drop 16 on particular tracks and that was it. I remember that Suge was gung-ho to have Nas, Meth, Red, and Jada on the album .....
damn, what a westcoast banger!! ::) ::) :P
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That's untrue, "Untouchable" the first and only real version of the album was completed, before Suge was first released from Prison. Quik never did a track with Crook when Untouchable was first recorded.
Godbody aka Damon X. . .
Nothing I post is untrue, if you read what I posted you will see I said: One of the reasons Suge didnt drop his 1st version of "Untouchable" in 2001, was because the guest appearences were at a minimum.. (Suge waited till he got home, and then sorted the guests)....... and...... Then in 2002, he started working on the 2nd version of "Untouchable", this was the one Suge was going to put his touch to = Suge got home and put his touch to the line-up etc. So I said exactly what you said, Suge wasnt HOME when the 1st version of Untouchable was recorded.
Also, I never said Quik did a track when Untouchable was first recorded.
Read more carfully next time.
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That's untrue, "Untouchable" the first and only real version of the album was completed, before Suge was first released from Prison. Quik never did a track with Crook when Untouchable was first recorded.
Godbody aka Damon X. . .
Nothing I post is untrue, if you read what I posted you will see I said: One of the reasons Suge didnt drop his 1st version of "Untouchable" in 2001, was because the guest appearences were at a minimum.. (Suge waited till he got home, and then sorted the guests)....... and...... Then in 2002, he started working on the 2nd version of "Untouchable", this was the one Suge was going to put his touch to = Suge got home and put his touch to the line-up etc. So I said exactly what you said, Suge wasnt HOME when the 1st version of Untouchable was recorded.
Also, I never said Quik did a track when Untouchable was first recorded.
Read more carfully next time.
Que aka Adidas "Young Roccs" aka "The.Real_Crooked_I"
There is no "touch" that Suge puts on records, because Suge Knight doesn't know anything about production. And Suge didn't want a whole lot of guests appearances on his album, there were at least 10 artists wanted on his album and Suge only wanted to spend for 3, so that is not the reason why Untouchable dropped, I don't remember ever seeing you amongst the group that were putting this album together.
And there was no "etc" when it came to other producers who produced tracks on the labum so you are wrong. And again 2Pac was not featured or discussed about being on the original version of Untouchable, so again you are in correct. Now anything after that may be true, I'm disputing that, but you facts are not that...facts. So before you get your britches all up in a teezy and claim I'm trying to "hate" on you, just remember you don't have the monopoly on "Crooked I" and everything about him when dealing with this particular album on the internet, other folks know too, like I'm sure you never heard of the remixes that were done by Cold 187um for several songs off of Untouchable, huh? I'm correcting you on them, since I was there and you weren't.
Get your facts in order next time. ;)
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Que aka Adidas "Young Roccs" aka "The.Real_Crooked_I"
There is no "touch" that Suge puts on records, because Suge Knight doesn't know anything about production. And Suge didn't want a whole lot of guests appearances on his album, there were at least 10 artists wanted on his album and Suge only wanted to spend for 3, so that is not the reason why Untouchable dropped, I don't remember ever seeing you amongst the group that were putting this album together.
And there was no "etc" when it came to other producers who produced tracks on the labum so you are wrong. And again 2Pac was not featured or discussed about being on the original version of Untouchable, so again you are in correct. Now anything after that may be true, I'm disputing that, but you facts are not that...facts. So before you get your britches all up in a teezy and claim I'm trying to "hate" on you, just remember you don't have the monopoly on "Crooked I" and everything about him when dealing with this particular album on the internet, other folks know too, like I'm sure you never heard of the remixes that were done by Cold 187um for several songs off of Untouchable, huh? I'm correcting you on them, since I was there and you weren't.
Get your facts in order next time. ;)
Yet again, all of your info is incorrect. . .
1) Tupac WAS on the Crooked I Death Row Untouchable album. I spoke to Crooked for hours speaking about his time recording on Death Row and I have heard the song, I work for Crooked, (so I should know more than a former Tommy Boy Records Flyer Hand-out man/Above The Law internet promoter aka Damon X). For your records, it was Crooked I feat. Tupac "Untouchable", it was a track for Crooked I's "Untouchable" LP, the song was even advertised in 2002 on the INTRO page of ThaRow.com, the official Death Row Records website. Now that is straight facts. . .
2) When I say Suge putting his "Touch" to something, I mean Suge getting BEHIND the project. Suge makes it move, he arranged the guests 50% of the time. Danny Boy has been recording for a long time, while Suge was locked up he did a huge amount of Solo tracks that he wasnt asked to do by Death Row, his words to ME were... "Im just waiting for Suge to get home and put his touch to my project, like only he knows how", by that he meant Suge was going to bring in outside producers and artists such as Babyface etc. DB's project is still coming soon.
GODBODY is an industry insider and knows a lot about the business, but when he trys to test my knowledge, I always come out on top.
Again, if I dont know the answer I would not reply.
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One of the reasons Suge didnt drop his 1st version of "Untouchable" in 2001, was because the guest appearences were at a minimum, he simply had the in-house acts on it, J Valentine was on a track, Tupac was also, & the whole album produced by Vegas, Hutch, Jim Gettum etc.
Hey DUMB ASS, in your own words in regards to UNTOUCHABLE in 2001, you said Pac was on it and I corrected you by saying he wasn't. Even after Suge was released, there was no talk of Pac being on the album (circa 2000), later that may have been the case, but on the original version, no Pac wasn't. I was simply correcting you on your own words, dummy.
And you mention, Vegas, Hutch, Gettum, and ETC. there was no ETC. check your own words.
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One of the reasons Suge didnt drop his 1st version of "Untouchable" in 2001, was because the guest appearences were at a minimum, he simply had the in-house acts on it, J Valentine was on a track, Tupac was also, & the whole album produced by Vegas, Hutch, Jim Gettum etc.
Hey DUMB ASS, in your own words in regards to UNTOUCHABLE in 2001, you said Pac was on it and I corrected you by saying he wasn't. Even after Suge was released, there was no talk of Pac being on the album (circa 2000), later that may have been the case, but on the original version, no Pac wasn't. I was simply correcting you on your own words, dummy.
And you mention, Vegas, Hutch, Gettum, and ETC. there was no ETC. check your own words.
Hahahaha ok so the only thing wrong I said was the WORD, "etc".... Let me stand corrected, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum & Big Hutch (without the 'etc') worked on the 2001 Crooked I "Untouchable" LP.
At least you can be corrected and accept I am right with everything. . .
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1) Tupac WAS on the Crooked I Death Row Untouchable album. I spoke to Crooked for hours speaking about his time recording on Death Row and I have heard the song, I work for Crooked, (so I should know more than a former Tommy Boy Records Flyer Hand-out man/Above The Law internet promoter aka Damon X). For your records, it was Crooked I feat. Tupac "Untouchable", it was a track for Crooked I's "Untouchable" LP, the song was even advertised in 2002 on the INTRO page of ThaRow.com, the official Death Row Records website. Now that is straight facts. . .
I already addressed your misinformation in the previous reply, "Tommy Boy records flyer hand out man and internet promoter" if that's the best you can do,you need to come up with something better. I couldn't be where I am as an "industry insider" by handing out fliers, stupid ass. In fact, "you have some free websites to update, minus one, but you'll find out about that in due time. And you and I know you don't know Crooked I like you claim, but if that's what you want to perpatrate to keep your "internet status" golden, by all means go ahead. And we won't even go into you working for Crooked I. I don't know how it is in Exeter, but here in Amerikkka, when you work it's usually rewarded with a paycheck of some sorts, but we know you are doing the site (As Kay) for free and you are getting paid with free music, like you do with all the sites you run. Oh and yes Am7 does get paid from WestWorld Records, so I'll save you the effort of trying to say our sites are done for free. It's not a secret what you do Scott, I mean Adidas, "I mean The_Real_Crooked_I", well you know all the aliases you use, pick one.
2) When I say Suge putting his "Touch" to something, I mean Suge getting BEHIND the project. Suge makes it move, he arranged the guests 50% of the time. Danny Boy has been recording for a long time, while Suge was locked up he did a huge amount of Solo tracks that he wasnt asked to do by Death Row, his words to ME were... "Im just waiting for Suge to get home and put his touch to my project, like only he knows how", by that he meant Suge was going to bring in outside producers and artists such as Babyface etc. DB's project is still coming soon.
Well I know you love you some Danny Boy, so that's ok. I'll leave that be, I could care less about Danny Boy.
LIKE I SAID, I JUST CORRECTED YOU ON ONE ASPECT OF YOUR REPLY, NOT OUT OF HATE OR SPITE, JUST AS COMMON KNOWLEDGE TO THOSE WHO WERE THERE, NOT SOME 5,000 MILES AWAY. BUT IT'S OK KEEP DOING YOUR THING, IF THAT SATISFIES YOU, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. CHEERS AND BE MERRY AND DO YOUR THING.
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Ok, so maybe you can't stand being corrected :laugh:. . .
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11 Against All Odds - Danny Boy (http://www.xoimage.com/Track_11.mp3)
It's a slow jam and has a choir at the end. I believe this was recorded right after he completed his Death Row debut LP. So lets say 97. Thats a Dubcc exclusive sample too, you wont hear that anywhere else ever. Please dont pass it around.
Anyone got this track in full that could hook me up?!
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Hasnt been leaked-think there was just that sample going around
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shit .. this old as ***** ..
shit this alot of info .. :o
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miss the days of Nino and Damon X beefin' on the forum
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fuck the Crooked I Death Row album!!! GIVE ME THE ABOVE THE LAW DEATH ROW ALBUM!!
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classic post..when's Say Hi To The Bad Guy being released over the net?
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I speak to Slip daily, now this was never publicated. But the complete truth. . .
Hey Que if u know Slip,can u tell us whats going on with the Eastsidaz&IV Life Collabo-Album?Will it ever drop??I dont think so :'(
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HOW THA FUCK CAN U MENTION WWW.DEATHROWRECORDS.NET/FORUMS WITH MENTIONING ME..
TELL ME.. C MON MUTHA FUCKAZ U KNOW HOW I SPEICAL I AM TO THE BOARDS.. I MEAN REALLY.. KEEP IT REAL.. IT'S YOUNG NIGGA BABY.. LOL..JP
I'M GLAD TO SEE ALL THA HEADS UP N HERE.. I JUST REGISTERD CUZ I SAW ALL THE OLD HOMIES FROM THE GOOD OLD DAYS 99-03 .... NIMA WHAD UP ... DAMON X WHAD UP ( i got my BA degree dawg.. imagine a hood nigga with a fucken degree i did ).. TO ALL THE REST KEEP YA HEAD UP AND ALWAYS REMEMBER WE WAS A FAMILY ON THEM FORUMS NO MATTER WHAT... GOD BLESS. 1
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bump..old thread, interesting read with say hi to the bad guy on the horizon
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Course. Bang on em, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show were recorded around early 1999 back when Daz was still at Death Row, same with Gd Up & Banged Out around late 99, that was one of the 1st tracks he did for the Untouchable album. He recorded 2 albums with Death Row, they were: 1999-2002 LP, which had input from Big Hutch, Daz, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum, Treach, DJ Quik, J Valentine, Too Short, Tupac (the track Untouchable) and he did another LP "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" from 2002-2003 which had Scarface, Kurupt, Danny Boy, Jah Rule, Irv Gotti etc.
He walked away with the tracks he did for the first album. But Death Row have "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" locked in those vaults.
So the album FTP and DeathRowsFinest is selling isnt SHTTBG, its Untouchable? Que is Nino right?
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crook in me
http://rapidshare.com/files/203549077/10-crooked_i-crook_in_me.mp3.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/203549077/10-crooked_i-crook_in_me.mp3.html)
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Cool read, But they still sitting on this shit...lol
:P (Danm! I forgot how annoying that DPGrecords.com tag was...)
THX for the nostolgia.
+1
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Course. Bang on em, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show were recorded around early 1999 back when Daz was still at Death Row, same with Gd Up & Banged Out around late 99, that was one of the 1st tracks he did for the Untouchable album. He recorded 2 albums with Death Row, they were: 1999-2002 LP, which had input from Big Hutch, Daz, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum, Treach, DJ Quik, J Valentine, Too Short, Tupac (the track Untouchable) and he did another LP "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" from 2002-2003 which had Scarface, Kurupt, Danny Boy, Jah Rule, Irv Gotti etc.
He walked away with the tracks he did for the first album. But Death Row have "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" locked in those vaults.
So the album FTP and DeathRowsFinest is selling isnt SHTTBG, its Untouchable? Que is Nino right?
If it was "Untouchable" we'd have "Bang On Em", "Raw Dawgs", "Crook Show", "Jack 101" and "Middle Finger Music" on the tracklisting.
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Course. Bang on em, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show were recorded around early 1999 back when Daz was still at Death Row, same with Gd Up & Banged Out around late 99, that was one of the 1st tracks he did for the Untouchable album. He recorded 2 albums with Death Row, they were: 1999-2002 LP, which had input from Big Hutch, Daz, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum, Treach, DJ Quik, J Valentine, Too Short, Tupac (the track Untouchable) and he did another LP "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" from 2002-2003 which had Scarface, Kurupt, Danny Boy, Jah Rule, Irv Gotti etc.
He walked away with the tracks he did for the first album. But Death Row have "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" locked in those vaults.
So the album FTP and DeathRowsFinest is selling isnt SHTTBG, its Untouchable? Que is Nino right?
If it was "Untouchable" we'd have "Bang On Em", "Raw Dawgs", "Crook Show", "Jack 101" and "Middle Finger Music" on the tracklisting.
Exactly, but it isn't the final version of Say Hi To The Bad Guy. It's songs done around that era though.
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Course. Bang on em, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show were recorded around early 1999 back when Daz was still at Death Row, same with Gd Up & Banged Out around late 99, that was one of the 1st tracks he did for the Untouchable album. He recorded 2 albums with Death Row, they were: 1999-2002 LP, which had input from Big Hutch, Daz, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum, Treach, DJ Quik, J Valentine, Too Short, Tupac (the track Untouchable) and he did another LP "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" from 2002-2003 which had Scarface, Kurupt, Danny Boy, Jah Rule, Irv Gotti etc.
He walked away with the tracks he did for the first album. But Death Row have "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" locked in those vaults.
So the album FTP and DeathRowsFinest is selling isnt SHTTBG, its Untouchable? Que is Nino right?
If it was "Untouchable" we'd have "Bang On Em", "Raw Dawgs", "Crook Show", "Jack 101" and "Middle Finger Music" on the tracklisting.
Exactly, but it isn't the final version of Say Hi To The Bad Guy. It's songs done around that era though.
True, there's a lot of missing appearances.
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Course. Bang on em, Raw Dawgs, Crook Show were recorded around early 1999 back when Daz was still at Death Row, same with Gd Up & Banged Out around late 99, that was one of the 1st tracks he did for the Untouchable album. He recorded 2 albums with Death Row, they were: 1999-2002 LP, which had input from Big Hutch, Daz, Darren Vegas, Jim Gettum, Treach, DJ Quik, J Valentine, Too Short, Tupac (the track Untouchable) and he did another LP "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" from 2002-2003 which had Scarface, Kurupt, Danny Boy, Jah Rule, Irv Gotti etc.
He walked away with the tracks he did for the first album. But Death Row have "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" locked in those vaults.
So the album FTP and DeathRowsFinest is selling isnt SHTTBG, its Untouchable? Que is Nino right?
If it was "Untouchable" we'd have "Bang On Em", "Raw Dawgs", "Crook Show", "Jack 101" and "Middle Finger Music" on the tracklisting.
Exactly, but it isn't the final version of Say Hi To The Bad Guy. It's songs done around that era though.
True, there's a lot of missing appearances.
Kind of like Against The Grain. ;)
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if he´s that good why he keeps gettn dropped and not releasing his album?
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if he´s that good why he keeps gettn dropped and not releasing his album?
He's never been dropped. He just never takes a deal.
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It amazes me that in the digital era we live in, we have rappers who interact with the fans, but we still don't have these songs or atleast a tracklist.
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So crooked I should be releasing his debut album real soon right? Lmao