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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: M Dogg™ on July 26, 2004, 02:25:57 PM
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This time though, the rapper actually is saying something. Jadakiss only said onething about George Bush, why did Bush knock down the towers, and for that, O'Reilly is asking his Republican friends to take their stock out of Viacom, which owns MTV and BET and Interscope which is Jadakiss's lable. Man, something has to be done about this man. He doesn't invite rappers that are actually smart, I'd love to see him with Talib Kweli, or KRS One, or Chuck D, too bad 2Pac still ain't alive because he was highly political, this man instead has Cam'ron who looks like a fool trying to have a conversation that involves passing high school, and O'Reilly's attacks on Hip-Hop is just plan foolish. What's his beef, did he get hit by a stray record when someone was spinning, did he get kicked by a break dancer in the streets of N.Y., does his kids like rap music, what's his issue with young intercity America expressing themselves.
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Hi. Since you can't see it clearly, I thought I would respond. He's not getting Chuck D, Mos Def, etc. on his show, because they ARE intelligent. He has no problem with them. He has problems with idiots like Jadakiss and Nelly & others going around being idiots. Can't say I blame him, I have problems with them too.
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Quote from Crooked I
so fuck Bill O'Reilly tryin' to block my doe,
you just the racist like half of these LA cops I know
I keep a glock ready to lock and load
I steal ya soul like Elvis stole rock and roll
- Im so political
P.S.: how can you be fucked for making a justified assumption? I dont get how they have the nerve to forbid the freedom of artists! in a country that brags how free it is!!!! disgusting. absolutely disgusting.
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I don't mind O'Reilly goin after Jadakiss because he''s tryin'g to sell records off that line, even making a commercials with the lyrics "Why did Bush knock down the towers" in bold white words. As far as demandiing peopel to take their stock out of Viacom, that's going way too far. That's one reason I dislike O'reilly. He does things just as outlandish as his targets by pressuring people to do things, like the whole situation with Ludacris and Pepsi.
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dont get mad tho mdogg, you ever notice when oreily has some1 on his show its not a bright person. an when he does have a bright person he doesnt give them the chance for talk for more than 10 seconds. I remember tho he had tom green on the show talking about rap. now bill thought tom was a moron, tom sonned him, it was classic lol.
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wtf lol
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Quote from Crooked I
so fuck Bill O'Reilly tryin' to block my doe,
you just the racist like half of these LA cops I know
I keep a glock ready to lock and load
I steal ya soul like Elvis stole rock and roll
- Im so political
P.S.: how can you be fucked for making a justified assumption? I dont get how they have the nerve to forbid the freedom of artists! in a country that brags how free it is!!!! disgusting. absolutely disgusting.
Who's forbidding freedom? Grow up. the government has nothing to do with this. Bill O'reilly is just an asshole with an opinion, kinda like us.
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Hi. Since you can't see it clearly, I thought I would respond. He's not getting Chuck D, Mos Def, etc. on his show, because they ARE intelligent. He has no problem with them. He has problems with idiots like Jadakiss and Nelly & others going around being idiots. Can't say I blame him, I have problems with them too.
O'reilly bashes hip hop as a whole. When Cam was on the show they were talking about how hip hop affects children. By not letting more intelligent rappers get a chance to speak on the show, people judge the music badly.
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wtf lol
lol i dont understand the connection to that guy.
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It looks kinda like Matt Lauer from NBC
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see Bill Oriely cant be put out, hes a cocky cracker who makes points that dont make any sense, i could get on a show and put that nigga out.
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see Bill Oriely cant be put out, hes a cocky cracker who makes points that dont make any sense, i could get on a show and put that nigga out.
I wanna see you do that ::)
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id luv the chance, i think anywun with half a brain could put O'rielly out on any topic.
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This article pretty much speaks for me: http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly
Bill just did something extremely dumb: he gave Jadakiss publicity. Now his album is gonna sell more. Anyways, Fuck Billy.
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h just makes me laugh so stupid is he
On the track who let these hoes in my room
ugly hoes gained acces to ludacris's room
then luda and snoop say, It was bill o reilly, fag
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The reason why Bill O'Reilly gets rappers like Camron, Ludacris, and jadakiss and not Chuck D, KRS-One or Talib Kweli is becuase turn on your television change it to mtv or bet and what do u see? tell me if u see chuck, one or kweli and they rap about different things and he knows not to fuck with them becuase he would get sonned thats why he goes after idiots like Camron and such...
but anyways fuck Bill O'Reilly
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The reason why Bill O'Reilly gets rappers like Camron, Ludacris, and jadakiss and not Chuck D, KRS-One or Talib Kweli is becuase turn on your television change it to mtv or bet and what do u see? tell me if u see chuck, one or kweli and they rap about different things and he knows not to fuck with them becuase he would get sonned thats why he goes after idiots like Camron and such...
but anyways fuck Bill O'Reilly
Yeah, conservatives/Republicans have the tendency to stay away from shit they can't handle. 8)
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This time though, the rapper actually is saying something. Jadakiss only said onething about George Bush, why did Bush knock down the towers, and for that, O'Reilly is asking his Republican friends to take their stock out of Viacom, which owns MTV and BET and Interscope which is Jadakiss's lable. Man, something has to be done about this man. He doesn't invite rappers that are actually smart, I'd love to see him with Talib Kweli, or KRS One, or Chuck D, too bad 2Pac still ain't alive because he was highly political, this man instead has Cam'ron who looks like a fool trying to have a conversation that involves passing high school, and O'Reilly's attacks on Hip-Hop is just plan foolish. What's his beef, did he get hit by a stray record when someone was spinning, did he get kicked by a break dancer in the streets of N.Y., does his kids like rap music, what's his issue with young intercity America expressing themselves.
Do you think that it is OK to accuse the president of the United States of America of murdering 3,000 American citizens with absolutely no shred of proof or evidence? That is OK to you?
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This time though, the rapper actually is saying something. Jadakiss only said onething about George Bush, why did Bush knock down the towers, and for that, O'Reilly is asking his Republican friends to take their stock out of Viacom, which owns MTV and BET and Interscope which is Jadakiss's lable. Man, something has to be done about this man. He doesn't invite rappers that are actually smart, I'd love to see him with Talib Kweli, or KRS One, or Chuck D, too bad 2Pac still ain't alive because he was highly political, this man instead has Cam'ron who looks like a fool trying to have a conversation that involves passing high school, and O'Reilly's attacks on Hip-Hop is just plan foolish. What's his beef, did he get hit by a stray record when someone was spinning, did he get kicked by a break dancer in the streets of N.Y., does his kids like rap music, what's his issue with young intercity America expressing themselves.
Do you think that it is OK to accuse the president of the United States of America of murdering 3,000 American citizens with absolutely no shred of proof or evidence? That is OK to you?
is it cool to tell people to take stock out of companies that support a man's freedom of speech, is it OK to try and shut up a person that is speaking his opinion, also mentioning other issues like why are rappers still broke, drugs, just basically asking why. Also, you ask me is it OK to accuse the president, never stopped Republicans from accusing Bill Clinton of many things, and Democrats of accusing Ronald Reagan before hand, it goes with politics, we have a freedom to speak what we think, and express it in any way we feel free to. So is it OK, you're god damn right, it's our American God given right if that's what we think is the truth. Jadakiss is from New York, I am sure the towers mean something to him.
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Do you think that it is OK to accuse the president of the United States of America of murdering 3,000 American citizens with absolutely no shred of proof or evidence? That is OK to you?
is it cool to tell people to take stock out of companies that support a man's freedom of speech, is it OK to try and shut up a person that is speaking his opinion, also mentioning other issues like why are rappers still broke, drugs, just basically asking why. Also, you ask me is it OK to accuse the president, never stopped Republicans from accusing Bill Clinton of many things, and Democrats of accusing Ronald Reagan before hand, it goes with politics, we have a freedom to speak what we think, and express it in any way we feel free to. So is it OK, you're god damn right, it's our American God given right if that's what we think is the truth. Jadakiss is from New York, I am sure the towers mean something to him.
It is one thing to criticize the president or voice your opinion regarding a political issue, but it is another thing to accuse the president of commiting the most deadly and evil terrorist attack ever commited on American soil. Do you really not see a difference? If you think there is nothing wrong with falsely accusing the president of mass murder of his own people, then we obviously have different values and ethics.
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Ur a moron to not see ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL that could lean towards Bush commiting such a crime. if USA could let Pearl Harbor happen, i have no doubt in my mind they would take it this far to have there war in Iraq. and i can acuse the president of any murder i want to just as long as a white man who commits a crime can always get away with the famous "it was an african american" that did it. last i check, this is what the country is all about, false accusations and such. but this time I think Jada was probly right, and Jadakiss is as smart as the other rappers who said it like Immortal Technique and such, Jada isnt the only one so why single him out?
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Do you think that it is OK to accuse the president of the United States of America of murdering 3,000 American citizens with absolutely no shred of proof or evidence? That is OK to you?
is it cool to tell people to take stock out of companies that support a man's freedom of speech, is it OK to try and shut up a person that is speaking his opinion, also mentioning other issues like why are rappers still broke, drugs, just basically asking why. Also, you ask me is it OK to accuse the president, never stopped Republicans from accusing Bill Clinton of many things, and Democrats of accusing Ronald Reagan before hand, it goes with politics, we have a freedom to speak what we think, and express it in any way we feel free to. So is it OK, you're god damn right, it's our American God given right if that's what we think is the truth. Jadakiss is from New York, I am sure the towers mean something to him.
It is one thing to criticize the president or voice your opinion regarding a political issue, but it is another thing to accuse the president of commiting the most deadly and evil terrorist attack ever commited on American soil. Do you really not see a difference? If you think there is nothing wrong with falsely accusing the president of mass murder of his own people, then we obviously have different values and ethics.
You act like you wanna throw Jadakiss in jail or sumthin.
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one of the great things about america is our supposed freedom of speech. all rap is, is speaking out and entertaining with it. Whats the difference between Jadakiss saying that its Bush's fault that the twin towers were taken down and C-BO talking about how he got rich off of selling cocaine? Or Spice 1 talking about murdering hella people? Or kurupt calling all women bitches and hoes? or the governor of california killing hella people in his movies? its entertainment. Is sending a message out that selling cocaine will make you a rich superstar any better than sending a message out that you think bush is responsible for the 9/11 attacks? People have to distinguish between right and wrong for themselves. And if people are too dumb to do that, then that is their own fault. And if it is not their own fault then it is the education system of the USA's fault. I listen to murder rap day in and day out. yet I've never murdered anyone, nor have I ever attempted to murder anyone. I've heard mc eiht say he has killed hella people in his songs. Does that mean that I really believe that he has killed hella people? No, its just entertainment.
here's an idea: Completely prove the theory wrong that bush had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, with hard evidence that can completely throw all accusations out the window. Maybe bill o'reilly already has, I don't know. but if he hasn't then why doesn't he?
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one of the great things about america is our supposed freedom of speech. all rap is, is speaking out and entertaining with it. Whats the difference between Jadakiss saying that its Bush's fault that the twin towers were taken down and C-BO talking about how he got rich off of selling cocaine? Or Spice 1 talking about murdering hella people? Or kurupt calling all women bitches and hoes? or the governor of california killing hella people in his movies? its entertainment. Is sending a message out that selling cocaine will make you a rich superstar any better than sending a message out that you think bush is responsible for the 9/11 attacks? People have to distinguish between right and wrong for themselves. And if people are too dumb to do that, then that is their own fault. And if it is not their own fault then it is the education system of the USA's fault. I listen to murder rap day in and day out. yet I've never murdered anyone, nor have I ever attempted to murder anyone. I've heard mc eiht say he has killed hella people in his songs. Does that mean that I really believe that he has killed hella people? No, its just entertainment.
here's an idea: Completely prove the theory wrong that bush had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, with hard evidence that can completely throw all accusations out the window. Maybe bill o'reilly already has, I don't know. but if he hasn't then why doesn't he?
good content and reading it entertains me ;) that's a great mixture, what a pity you dont feel like posting more often in this section
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Another thing M Dogg, it is every American's right to free speech, but it is also every American's right to boycott, so if people want to dis-invest from the companies that do business with Jadakiss why do you care?
How anyone can defend someone who accuses the president of killing 3,000 of his own people is beyond me....
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How anyone can defend someone who accuses the president of killing 3,000 of his own people is beyond me....
How anyone can be in favor of bombing a country that hasnt done shit and killing ppl that havent done shit is beyond me
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How anyone can defend someone who accuses the president of killing 3,000 of his own people is beyond me....
How anyone can be in favor of bombing a country that hasnt done shit and killing ppl that havent done shit is beyond me
Oh so Al Quiada in Afghanistan didn't do shit and Saddam in Iraq didn't do shit. Cmon man, i know your not this ignorant.
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How anyone can defend someone who accuses the president of killing 3,000 of his own people is beyond me....
How anyone can be in favor of bombing a country that hasnt done shit and killing ppl that havent done shit is beyond me
Oh so Al Quiada in Afghanistan didn't do shit and Saddam in Iraq didn't do shit. Cmon man, i know your not this ignorant.
Read what you write before you post to save yourself from looking like a moron. 7even said "How anyone can be in favor of bombing a country that hasnt done shit and killing ppl that havent done shit is beyond me." You respond with "Al Quiada in Afghanistan didn't do shit and Saddam in Iraq didn't do shit. Cmon man, i know your not this ignorant." Al Quaida and Saddam aren't goddamn countries. If some militant group or person in the US decides to do some terrorist shit, is that justification for other countries to kill people who haven't done shit, who live in the US? Look at it this way, if someone is a murderer, you don't solve the problem by killing him AND his whole family, his neighborhood, or his whole country. Everyone knows that's ridiculous- you just go for the murderer. You're the ignorant one.
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Read what you write before you post to save yourself from looking like a moron. 7even said "How anyone can be in favor of bombing a country that hasnt done shit and killing ppl that havent done shit is beyond me." You respond with "Al Quiada in Afghanistan didn't do shit and Saddam in Iraq didn't do shit. Cmon man, i know your not this ignorant." Al Quaida and Saddam aren't goddamn countries. If some militant group or person in the US decides to do some terrorist shit, is that justification for other countries to kill people who haven't done shit, who live in the US? Look at it this way, if someone is a murderer, you don't solve the problem by killing him AND his whole family, his neighborhood, or his whole country. Everyone knows that's ridiculous- you just go for the murderer. You're the ignorant one.
I never said the whole country if you understood my post. I said AL Quiada in Afganistan. I dindt say the whole country Afganistan. I said Saddam in Iraq, I didnt say the whole country Iraq.
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Read what you write before you post to save yourself from looking like a moron. 7even said "How anyone can be in favor of bombing a country that hasnt done shit and killing ppl that havent done shit is beyond me." You respond with "Al Quiada in Afghanistan didn't do shit and Saddam in Iraq didn't do shit. Cmon man, i know your not this ignorant." Al Quaida and Saddam aren't goddamn countries. If some militant group or person in the US decides to do some terrorist shit, is that justification for other countries to kill people who haven't done shit, who live in the US? Look at it this way, if someone is a murderer, you don't solve the problem by killing him AND his whole family, his neighborhood, or his whole country. Everyone knows that's ridiculous- you just go for the murderer. You're the ignorant one.
I never said the whole country if you understood my post. I said AL Quiada in Afganistan. I dindt say the whole country Afganistan. I said Saddam in Iraq, I didnt say the whole country Iraq.
Read what you've written in response to 7even's post before, once again.
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Read what you've written in response to 7even's post before, once again.
OK, i see now. LOL... I must of mis - understood his post.
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shame
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I responds to CWalker, why should I say take stock out of anything, now that I'm in a place of power. Power of the press, and Fox says they are the most unbiased news out there, well to tell people to take out stock is abusing the power of the press to hurt others.
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you know what's kinda retarded. O'reily goes after rappers the don't really influence all that much........i mean shit Ludacris?? i mean sure he's platnum and shit but he's one of the more Possitive comercial rappers (which isn't saying much but still) why go after him he's not that rotten. Jada.....eh he had that one dumb line but seriously he's not that influencial. THen cam'ron he's going to be like coolio in 10 years. i mean really if O'reily wants to be Tipper Gore and the PMRC , shouldn't he be going after 3 6 mafia, brotha lynch , ect. and fools that actually say shit that's wrong .
and anothe stupid thing is all these foriegn idiots saying by having bill o'reily complain and protest rap...it's attack on free speech.......wtf ~!!1 shut the hell up monky asses. First of all what on earth is the governments role in all of this.....i don't see no one in the government up in this, trying to deport Jada. shut the fuck up with all that shit. all it is is 2 fuckers in the media, a crotchity old white dude on medimusal and a fucking overrated tantless black dude getting their panties wet over words.
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LISTEN TO ORIELY RIP ON JADA
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1432810&q=Lo
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Freedom of speech. What that means? Freedom of speech. It means you can write/say George Bush is a bad President. You can write/say you dont like him and his dog. You can write/say you disagree with him on something because.. That's freedom of speech. To say Bush is a retarded got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. It's a diss. And you cant say that, expecially on a public television, or in a song, or in a book, etc directed to the mass. To say that Bush killed 3,000 innocent got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. To say that Bush is a terrorist got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. You can say you like ketchup and dislike mustard, tho'. Get it str8. P.S. I dont know how it is there in the USA, but it Italy only in the Parliament it's possible to have a 100% true freedom of speech, and you cant be sued if you say something.
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How anyone can be in favor of bombing a country that hasnt done shit and killing ppl that havent done shit is beyond me
That's legit. You can say/think that, and vote for the other dude. That's freedom of speech and democracy.
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P.S. I dont know how it is there in the USA, but it Italy only in the Parliament it's possible to have a 100% true freedom of speech, and you cant be sued if you say something.
Our freedom of speech basically goes like this. We can say whatever we want, unless we are like in a theater, and yell fire causing everyone to panic, or if we are members of the press and we slander a persons name. Now, according to our freedom of speech, who is closer to breaking the U.S. idea of freedom of speech. The only way though slander is inforce is if you sue for someone slandering your name. Now Jada asking why Bush knocked down the towers, that's legit because first it's a question, and second we have the right to talk about our elected officals. After Moore's film, it became alright to ask this question, since it is ok to question our elected officals. O'Reily I guess would not have that, but if shoe was on the other foot, you're damn right he would have Clinton questioned for knocking down the towers.
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P.S. I dont know how it is there in the USA, but it Italy only in the Parliament it's possible to have a 100% true freedom of speech, and you cant be sued if you say something.
Our freedom of speech basically goes like this. We can say whatever we want, unless we are like in a theater, and yell fire causing everyone to panic, or if we are members of the press and we slander a persons name. Now, according to our freedom of speech, who is closer to breaking the U.S. idea of freedom of speech. The only way though slander is inforce is if you sue for someone slandering your name. Now Jada asking why Bush knocked down the towers, that's legit because first it's a question, and second we have the right to talk about our elected officals. After Moore's film, it became alright to ask this question, since it is ok to question our elected officals. O'Reily I guess would not have that, but if shoe was on the other foot, you're damn right he would have Clinton questioned for knocking down the towers.
Mdogg what the fuck are you even trying to say in the second half of your whole shpill?
you're right in the first half . .....in the US you can say anything you want as long as it doesn't fuck with anyone's rights. you can't cuss on the radio or basic cable because it can hurt children. you can't make false acsations ...well you can actually cuz i see it all the time on tv, but you're not suppose to because it hurts pussy's egos and defames someone's true image.
BUT, what viacom (mtv) did was their right!....if jadakiss didn't want his shit edited then why turn his video into MTV? if MTV (who owns that copy of the video now that you summited) doesn't like something that they now own then they have the right to edit it.
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Freedom of speech. What that means? Freedom of speech. It means you can write/say George Bush is a bad President. You can write/say you dont like him and his dog. You can write/say you disagree with him on something because.. That's freedom of speech. To say Bush is a retarded got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. It's a diss. And you cant say that, expecially on a public television, or in a song, or in a book, etc directed to the mass. To say that Bush killed 3,000 innocent got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. To say that Bush is a terrorist got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. You can say you like ketchup and dislike mustard, tho'. Get it str8. P.S. I dont know how it is there in the USA, but it Italy only in the Parliament it's possible to have a 100% true freedom of speech, and you cant be sued if you say something.
lol.. it's an accusion. I can accuse you of everything the fuck I want. I can sue you for everything the fuck I want. The court has to decide then. And the accusion is pretty easy to back up. It's no random talk. It's like saying why did O J Simpson kill his wife, tho he says he didnt lol. Nothing that goes beyond freedom of speech there.
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Freedom of speech. What that means? Freedom of speech. It means you can write/say George Bush is a bad President. You can write/say you dont like him and his dog. You can write/say you disagree with him on something because.. That's freedom of speech. To say Bush is a retarded got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. It's a diss. And you cant say that, expecially on a public television, or in a song, or in a book, etc directed to the mass. To say that Bush killed 3,000 innocent got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. To say that Bush is a terrorist got nothing to do with the freedom of speech. You can say you like ketchup and dislike mustard, tho'. Get it str8. P.S. I dont know how it is there in the USA, but it Italy only in the Parliament it's possible to have a 100% true freedom of speech, and you cant be sued if you say something.
lol.. it's an accusion. I can accuse you of everything the fuck I want. I can sue you for everything the fuck I want. The court has to decide then. And the accusion is pretty easy to back up. It's no random talk. It's like saying why did O J Simpson kill his wife, tho he says he didnt lol. Nothing that goes beyond freedom of speech there.
It's the same thing. You're saying basically that now Bush can sue Jadakiss and ask him money, right? And a judge will judge who's right. Well, i agree. But look, NOBODY in the world has ever done such a thing being the President, or the Dictator, of whatever, of a Nation. You know. Can u immagine Bush suing Jadakiss? Bush going in the court to accuse Jadakiss? C'mon. They do different things. A Dictator close the radio and send the guy to jail/death. A President (or 99.9% of the times ppl from his staff) usually makes pressure on MTV/Interscope/journalists to retire or edit the video and to talk shit about the guy. It's normal, nothing really scandalous. It's like that worldwide. Just open your eyes and close your philosophy book.
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lol I never denied that it's reality. How could I, when it obviously is. But it's no argument for me. No way I wont disagree with it and fight it, because it's reality. lol. I actually fight it because it's reality. How would I fight someones imagination lol?
Im not responsible for how the world is currently or how it has been before. But Im responsible if nothing changes for the better. And I do everything I can to change it for the better. Right now, Im posting on a message board. In 5-10 years? Who knows.
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I feel you. What i say is that maybe it's wrong. But it's nothing personal about Bush, you know what i mean? It's like that everywhere. Put Clinton or whoever instead of Bush and you have the same situation. They do the same things here in Italy. Everyday. It's something i think will never change. When you get the power, you dont want it to be damaged by someone. Other than that, and that's a personal opinion i have, i think Jadakiss did a stupid move. Cause he aint the same charisma and intelligence Pac (for example) had. Pac had the skills and the "power" to say "fuck Bush, fuck MTV, i'm going all out!". Cause he was intellingent, and political. Jadakiss no. Somebody probably wrote that line for him. Or he said it by himself, but i'm sure if i talk with him, he doesnt even know what the fuck he's talking about and he'll just say common stupid things with no evidences, no intelligence, no real arguments to discuss. If Pac said something like that, then ok, it was something interesting. Cause asked about it, Pac could have replied with some intelligent things (i aint saying "correct" things, just intelligent things. Just from another point of view, you know). Jadakiss really has nothing to more to add, imo. Just a line.
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Jadakiss has already gather more media attention in the past few months than all of his career put together, and he just got a deal with Microsoft to start slanging X-Box's. I think it was a smart move by Jadakiss. After Michael Moore's film, it was a good way to ask why, but at the sametime not really accuse Bush of doing anything. It's like I can ask, Jake, why you masterbate? He can answer, I don't masterbate, and all will be good. Jadakiss can ask, why did Bush knock over the towers, and Bush can say, I didn't knock over the towers. Parents do it all the time, why you kick the dog, I didn't kick the dog, and that's that. And for a question, Jadakiss is getting more attention than his ever had, and his sales increase. Smart move.
And Jake, what I'm trying to say is, that it is wrong that Bill O'Reily is singling out Jadakiss by slandering him through the media. He is telling people to boycott the companies that support him. I don't care about the MTV edit, because they editted out when Kanye West says the White man get's paid off of all of that, which I thought shouldn't be, so obviously they're going to edit out Jada's line. What MTV does is their business. But what O'Reily says to damage another person is wrong. He could make a comment about it, he can talk about it, but to slander Jada's name the way he is, is just wrong.
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And Jake, what I'm trying to say is, that it is wrong that Bill O'Reily is singling out Jadakiss by slandering him through the media.
I dont live in the States, i live in Italy. I dont even know this guy. BUT.. dont you think he was been paid to say/do them things? Isnt it a smart move for him and his career too to defend Bush? Yes, it is. Yes, he got paid. Yes, it's wrong. Yes, good morning.
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Jadakiss has already gather more media attention in the past few months than all of his career put together, and he just got a deal with Microsoft to start slanging X-Box's. I think it was a smart move by Jadakiss. After Michael Moore's film, it was a good way to ask why, but at the sametime not really accuse Bush of doing anything. It's like I can ask, Jake, why you masterbate? He can answer, I don't masterbate, and all will be good. Jadakiss can ask, why did Bush knock over the towers, and Bush can say, I didn't knock over the towers. Parents do it all the time, why you kick the dog, I didn't kick the dog, and that's that. And for a question, Jadakiss is getting more attention than his ever had, and his sales increase. Smart move.
And Jake, what I'm trying to say is, that it is wrong that Bill O'Reily is singling out Jadakiss by slandering him through the media. He is telling people to boycott the companies that support him. I don't care about the MTV edit, because they editted out when Kanye West says the White man get's paid off of all of that, which I thought shouldn't be, so obviously they're going to edit out Jada's line. What MTV does is their business. But what O'Reily says to damage another person is wrong. He could make a comment about it, he can talk about it, but to slander Jada's name the way he is, is just wrong.
so if it's right for jadakiss to ask "why" bush knocked down the towers (basically in a nut shell saying something thta isn't true) shouldn't it be okay for bill o'reily to protest Jada...??
i'm not defeding either here, frankly both bill and jada can choke on eachother dicks and die and i wouldn't care, but What bill is doing here is throwing it back in jada's face the same way jada was trying to do to bush. You say it's Jada's constitutional right to ask why, but in the same frame it's also bill's right to protest against something he doesn't agree with . what is it that he doesn't agree with ....a "musician" who spent most of his career promoting negative things like slanging drugs, violence , sexism, ect. who has a new album out promoting the same thing but contradicts it and all the sudden wants to be possitive on one track. let that sit for a while.....it would be one thing if Kiss of death was all tracks that were like why (for example "what's going on) but he gets possitive on ONE track then diminishes it by telling kids , go fuck every girl you meet , slang drugs to get by ...cuz lord knows that's the "ONLY " way to make it. Imagine you're punk ass 50 year old dude seeing some punk ass on tv doing this ? you'd do the same and i'm sure later on in your life you will.
frankly both are dumbasses. Jadakiss was stupid to say bush knocked down the towers, and Bill is just as stupid for making this the main focus of his life.
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It was a metaphor according to Jada. Check it out yourself... from CNN.
NEW YORK (AP) -- Over the years, the rapper Jadakiss has depicted a world of drug dealing, murder and other assorted mayhem without raising many eyebrows.
But seven words in his new song "Why" -- "Why did Bush knock down the towers?" -- has gotten Jadakiss the most mainstream attention, and criticism, of his career.
"It caught the ear of white America," he said proudly during a phone interview with The Associated Press. "It's a good thing. No matter what you do, somebody's not going to like it, but for the most part, most people love the song."
Not everyone loves it. Bill O'Reilly called Jadakiss a "smear merchant" this week, and some radio stations have edited out the line in the song, in which Jadakiss talks about perceived injustices, conspiracies and problems affecting the world. MTV says it is playing an edited version of the video, as it was sent by his label, Interscope.
Jadakiss says fans have demanded to hear the original version.
"In the beginning, they would edit, but after that, everybody called back for the version that was calling Bush (out)," he says.
Jadakiss doesn't really believe Bush ordered the towers destroyed -- he says the line is a metaphor, and that Bush should take the blame for the terrorist attack because his administration didn't do enough to stop it.
"They didn't follow up on a lot of things properly," says Jadakiss. "It's the president of the United States. The buck stops with him."
The controversy doesn't appear to be hurting Jadakiss -- his new album, "Kiss of Death," released last month, is nearing 500,000 copies sold. However, his song "Why?" has stalled at No. 16 on Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles chart.
Hearing Jadakiss converse about political issues is a new concept -- the rapper, who began his career as part of the group The Lox, is more known for his gritty rhymes about street life.
But Jadakiss says his outlook has changed.
"I'm growing up, I'm getting a little older. I've got two kids. I'm almost 30 years old," says the Yonkers, New York native.
He talks up "Fahrenheit 9/11" as an important, must-see movie -- he's watched it twice -- and he's even registering to vote in the upcoming presidential election, a first for him. (He backs John Kerry.) He wants the minimum wage raised and more jobs created.
"As a rapper, as an artist, we've got power," he said. "If we can get people to vote from the ages 18 to 44, we can make a change."
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i'm soooo sure that was jadas sole intent on that song ::) pleease . that fool just said that shit to cover his ass. he didn't want to be the next dixie chicks.
and if that was his real intent on that so called "metaphor#" then , why are you making o'reily out to be the bad guy, and jada's talking about responsibility on bush's behalf....shouldn't it be jadakiss explaining his line before it came out so it wouldn't cause so much negative publicity? ooooooooh right by making more pulicity you get more promotion for the album....
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Exactly. Jadakiss has something to say about the Twins Towers? Ok. I'm here, ready to listen to him. What's your point? Explain it to me, Jada. Confrontate yourself with people who doesnt agree with you or who dont dickride you. Tell me why you think Bush is responsable for the deaths of thousands of innocent souls? Maybe you're right but explain it. What? You cant? What? You dont want to talk about it? Man, that's BULLSHIT!!
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in the end it just comes down to the fact that some jadakiss fans might vote for kerry instead of bush now.. and that is a good thing. so I cant hate on him for that.
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Also, it is said that the government knew of a possible Al Quada attack, and did nothing about it because they didn't take it seriously. This is something that everyone agrees one, and like Jada says, the buck stops at the president. If I was president, and knew of a possible terrorist attack, every conservative would want my head if I didn't respond. Well, liberals are the same way. Also, why would Jada be the next Dixie Chicks. They have different people that listent to them, Dixie Chicks have more conservative listeners, Jada has more intercity listeners who already don't trust the government, and Jada as already outsold his last CD, so whatever my mans is doing, it's working.
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Also, it is said that the government knew of a possible Al Quada attack, and did nothing about it because they didn't take it seriously. This is something that everyone agrees one, and like Jada says, the buck stops at the president. If I was president, and knew of a possible terrorist attack, every conservative would want my head if I didn't respond. Well, liberals are the same way. Also, why would Jada be the next Dixie Chicks. They have different people that listent to them, Dixie Chicks have more conservative listeners, Jada has more intercity listeners who already don't trust the government, and Jada as already outsold his last CD, so whatever my mans is doing, it's working.
Like Jada said, like Jada said, like Jada said..
Jada said nothing! I want him to explain me what he thinks about the whole situation.
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Also, it is said that the government knew of a possible Al Quada attack, and did nothing about it because they didn't take it seriously. This is something that everyone agrees one, and like Jada says, the buck stops at the president. If I was president, and knew of a possible terrorist attack, every conservative would want my head if I didn't respond. Well, liberals are the same way. Also, why would Jada be the next Dixie Chicks. They have different people that listent to them, Dixie Chicks have more conservative listeners, Jada has more intercity listeners who already don't trust the government, and Jada as already outsold his last CD, so whatever my mans is doing, it's working.
Like Jada said, like Jada said, like Jada said..
Jada said nothing! I want him to explain me what he thinks about the whole situation.
read the article I posted
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"It caught the ear of white America, it's a good thing. No matter what you do, somebody's not going to like it, but for the most part, most people love the song. [..] They didn't follow up on a lot of things properly, it's the president of the United States. The buck stops with him."
Are you trying to sell me those are intelligent quotes? It's custom speech, man. If somebody trying to act so political and intelligent have this conversation with me i shut him down in 10 seconds. If you criticize someone, you must say not only that "he's wrong", but what would you do in his position, why and how. Ask it to Jada and he'll be in a total embarassing silence.
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"It caught the ear of white America, it's a good thing. No matter what you do, somebody's not going to like it, but for the most part, most people love the song. [..] They didn't follow up on a lot of things properly, it's the president of the United States. The buck stops with him."
Are you trying to sell me those are intelligent quotes? It's custom speech, man. If somebody trying to act so political and intelligent have this conversation with me i shut him down in 10 seconds. If you criticize someone, you must say not only that "he's wrong", but what would you do in his position, why and how. Ask it to Jada and he'll be in a total embarassing silence.
If I can ask Jadakiss, I would. Now I can tell you what I would do as president, because it's not that hard to say anything. I can say one thing, I would not take more vacation time off in one year than the average president does in 4. But then again I'm not president, so how can I possibly say that.
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Also, it is said that the government knew of a possible Al Quada attack, and did nothing about it because they didn't take it seriously. This is something that everyone agrees one, and like Jada says, the buck stops at the president. If I was president, and knew of a possible terrorist attack, every conservative would want my head if I didn't respond. Well, liberals are the same way. Also, why would Jada be the next Dixie Chicks. They have different people that listent to them, Dixie Chicks have more conservative listeners, Jada has more intercity listeners who already don't trust the government, and Jada as already outsold his last CD, so whatever my mans is doing, it's working.
mdogg shut the fuck up with that "the government knew" do you know how many threats all government officials get, there is seriously a file that all presidents have since Peral harbor of all the threats and clinton had millions in his...with that many it's IMPOSSIBLE To tell which are legit and which arn't. Plus how many times has the united states had an attack on the 48 main states by a foriegn group....oh right huh? It's not the governments fault 9-11 happened it's osama's .
jada would have been the next dixie chicks because he would be more hated than ignored regardless of his fanbase, most of america is conservative so let me break it down for you ....it'd be WORSE to have most of america dislike you than to have no idea you exist.
also what the fuck is an INTERcity listener?
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Also, it is said that the government knew of a possible Al Quada attack, and did nothing about it because they didn't take it seriously. This is something that everyone agrees one, and like Jada says, the buck stops at the president. If I was president, and knew of a possible terrorist attack, every conservative would want my head if I didn't respond. Well, liberals are the same way. Also, why would Jada be the next Dixie Chicks. They have different people that listent to them, Dixie Chicks have more conservative listeners, Jada has more intercity listeners who already don't trust the government, and Jada as already outsold his last CD, so whatever my mans is doing, it's working.
mdogg shut the fuck up with that "the government knew" do you know how many threats all government officials get, there is seriously a file that all presidents have since Peral harbor of all the threats and clinton had millions in his...with that many it's IMPOSSIBLE To tell which are legit and which arn't. Plus how many times has the united states had an attack on the 48 main states by a foriegn group....oh right huh? It's not the governments fault 9-11 happened it's osama's .
jada would have been the next dixie chicks because he would be more hated than ignored regardless of his fanbase, most of america is conservative so let me break it down for you ....it'd be WORSE to have most of america dislike you than to have no idea you exist.
also what the fuck is an INTERcity listener?
An intercity listener is someone that listens from the intercity. Now since it's peace week, I'll hold back my schooling, as I will stick to the issues and not say much else.
You ever heard of the saying, if I can't be famous, I'll be imfamous. Well lets look at Jadakiss. His sales are up, most of his listeners to begin with are liberal hip-hop heads, who agree with what he is saying, and the attention he is getting is having his name spoke by people in the Bill O'Reilly Show. Jada was even called a one hit wonder... lol... since I guess It's All About The Benjerman's doesn't count as a hit, or His song from his first album with the jack Ras Kass Beat. (I boycotted that album and that song so I have no idea what it's called... lol) Anyways, Jada is has resently signed on to promote X-Box's for Bill Gates, Bill Gates is actually a liberal, so in this case, dissing George Bush is a good thing because it gets you in with the riches man in the world. Had Jada not dissed Bush, he'd never been known except for a guy wearing shinny suits behind Puffy in the late 90's, and later a guy behind DMX wearing a rag in the early part of this decade. Now he gets to be a cool peace of "Looking Back In 2004" triva. His CD is selling more, people know of him, and hip-hop heads are supporting him, something they would not do if he'd go Nelly on us to sell. When Nelly's popular buzz ends, he will never sell because the suburbs wouldn't buy him, and the streets wouldn't buy him. Jada may never have teh suburbs buy him, but the streets will remember him, and support him the same way they still support KRS-One, Chuck D, Ice Cube, and others who sell big on the streets because they provided a voice.
Now I ask you, in the 90's did you ever turn on the news, and for like a 10 second brief, they mentioned that the military attacked supposed terrorist training grounds in a country called Afganistan. Maybe it was because I was a news junkie, but I saw it. Threats are made all the time, but the president before Bush paid close attention. When someone is leading a group of terrorist, and that leader is on the top FBI's most wanted list, you might listen. Now I personally don't fully blame Bush, when he ran he said he wouldn't expain the military as much as Clinton did, because our military was all over the place. He decided to take military out of the middle east, then he realized why we have it there to begin with. That would be like me promising to do a typical liberal thing like raise welfare benefits, only to have more people get on welfare. You have to think out what you are doing, not just do it. You are elected the president of the United States, we depend on you to keep us safe, and to we trust you that you are doing the best job possible. I can honestly say that for the first 9 months of Bush's presidency, I didn't feel that way. 9/11 just happen to come, and when we needed someone to rally the troops, to get the people claim and trust in our leaders... we got... Rudy Giuliani??? Where was the president? Who knew, 3 days later he let us know he was alright, which is good. The presidency doesn't come easy to everyone, but all I ask is the president at least try.
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m dogg do you even know what you are saying
first its INNER city
second George bush was on TV the night of 9-11 i don't know what you're rambling on about
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m dogg do you even know what you are saying
first its INNER city
second George bush was on TV the night of 9-11 i don't know what you're rambling on about
inner... inter... whatever... lol
I remember him beng on TV. I mistyped what I wanted to say 'cause I'm dealing with other things right now. But on that, Bush did not have much to say at all about 9/11, nor did he saw good leadership skillz until sometime after 9/11. Sorry, some real life drama is clouding my memory, sorry I live a real life.
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bush was at some school speaking when 9-11 happened it was being televised too because my mom was watching it while i was getting ready for school, and then some dude came and wispered something in his ear and he left and got on air force 1. then later on that night he spoke. Dude whenever a country is under attack the first thing to do is protect the leader, and that's one of the biggest line of defense is to get the president on air force 1 and fly him around for a while to an undisclosed area. Don't get mad at me cuz you didn't get your facts right.
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bush was at some school speaking when 9-11 happened it was being televised too because my mom was watching it while i was getting ready for school, and then some dude came and wispered something in his ear and he left and got on air force 1. then later on that night he spoke. Dude whenever a country is under attack the first thing to do is protect the leader, and that's one of the biggest line of defense is to get the president on air force 1 and fly him around for a while to an undisclosed area. Don't get mad at me cuz you didn't get your facts right.
Exactly. You can say everything about Bush, but he DID have a strong condamn against terrorism. I remember that like it was yesterday. He promised vendetta immediatly.
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yeah great vendetta he did. we really whooped on osamas's ass. oh wait, never mind, he's still out there. meanwhile his family left the US the same day that the twin towers got ruined. Jake you are so fucking dumb its unbelievable. Our first line of defense was to fly bush around awhile to an undisclosed area huh? So, what was that school? You mean to tell me that the terrorist didn't think to crash into that school that bush was at? why the hell wouldn't they think he was there? I mean he is the goddamn president. where the fuck would he be? The Whitehouse? Why would the president be in the whitehouse? Why didn't they attack the whitehouse? If the Pres was the one in so much danger, why didn't the terrorist attack the whitehouse? Probably cause he was at the twin towers huh? Yeah what a great defense. Hide the president, and let the family members of the accused out of the country. then attack a country that had nothing to do with the attack. Great fuckin sense. Hey Jake, go back to your stupid fuckin worthless life. Keep living in that shithole ass town you call bakersfield and keep making nothing of your worthless life. You ain't goin nowhere, and your gonna live the rest of your miserable life in that shithole. Meanwhile, keep sucking Bush's dick so that you can fool your own weak mind that something good in your life is happening. How's life? How you doing? You still in highschool? If so, then shut the fuck up and let people deal with the situation that aren't still pampered by mommy and daddy. BTW how's that special edition of the Doggystyle cd you got? Your a fuckin moron jake, every post I read by you amazes me how you top your previous post for being so fuckin stupid. Go back to post that your good at: Lying about shit, and telling a forum of dudes about your balls.
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yeah great vendetta he did. we really whooped on osamas's ass. oh wait, never mind, he's still out there. meanwhile his family left the US the same day that the twin towers got ruined. Jake you are so fucking dumb its unbelievable. Our first line of defense was to fly bush around awhile to an undisclosed area huh? So, what was that school? You mean to tell me that the terrorist didn't think to crash into that school that bush was at? why the hell wouldn't they think he was there? I mean he is the goddamn president. where the fuck would he be? The Whitehouse? Why would the president be in the whitehouse? Why didn't they attack the whitehouse? If the Pres was the one in so much danger, why didn't the terrorist attack the whitehouse? Probably cause he was at the twin towers huh? Yeah what a great defense. Hide the president, and let the family members of the accused out of the country.
Sorry maybe it's me, but i didnt understand your point. Terrorists attacked civils, not the President. They attacked USA on Pentagon, on the Twin Towers and yes, on the White House (but the airplane crashed). It was a multiple attack, not an execution. It was been done to kill America, not Bush. Plus, about Osama's family, they didnt even know who attacked them in the first hours. Remember first they thought they were Palestinians? Remember them videos with them celebrating? Remember all the talks about it on TV? And Osama's family did no crimes to be forced to stay in the Country or in jail. It's too easy to talk like you're doing now... With all the facts known, with no pressure, no doubts.
then attack a country that had nothing to do with the attack. Great fuckin sense.
Wrong. They've attacked Talibans. Iraq is a totally different story/mistake.
Hey Jake, go back to your stupid fuckin worthless life. Keep living in that shithole ass town you call bakersfield and keep making nothing of your worthless life. You ain't goin nowhere, and your gonna live the rest of your miserable life in that shithole. Meanwhile, keep sucking Bush's dick so that you can fool your own weak mind that something good in your life is happening. How's life? How you doing? You still in highschool? If so, then shut the fuck up and let people deal with the situation that aren't still pampered by mommy and daddy. BTW how's that special edition of the Doggystyle cd you got? Your a fuckin moron jake, every post I read by you amazes me how you top your previous post for being so fuckin stupid. Go back to post that your good at: Lying about shit, and telling a forum of dudes about your balls.
Not my problem. But this shit is not "elegant".
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if you can talk to the family of a murderer, will you talk to them, just to see where he could be or something, or would you fly them out of the country immediately, although noone else is allowed to fly. cmon, NOOO-OONE can tell this isnt suspicious and fuckin' weird. maybe it was a deal? you destroy my towers and I wont harm neither you or your family? I mean they also didnt get in the place where it was said he'd stay for the first couple weeks..
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if you can talk to the family of a murderer, will you talk to them, just to see where he could be or something, or would you fly them out of the country immediately, although noone else is allowed to fly. cmon, NOOO-OONE can tell this isnt suspicious and fuckin' weird. maybe it was a deal? you destroy my towers and I wont harm neither you or your family? I mean they also didnt get in the place where it was said he'd stay for the first couple weeks..
A deal? I betta get my ass out of this topic.. it's too stupid.. ::)
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if you can talk to the family of a murderer, will you talk to them, just to see where he could be or something, or would you fly them out of the country immediately, although noone else is allowed to fly. cmon, NOOO-OONE can tell this isnt suspicious and fuckin' weird. maybe it was a deal? you destroy my towers and I wont harm neither you or your family? I mean they also didnt get in the place where it was said he'd stay for the first couple weeks..
A deal? I betta get my ass out of this topic.. it's too stupid.. ::)
says a dude who doesnt seem to find it weird and suspect as fuck when the family of the man who's responsible for the greatest attack on american soil is getting a sight-seeing tour per plane in america when noone else is allowed to fly.
(+ the guy who thinks Malone is still better than Duncan & Garnett)
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It's not suspect as fuck, man. It's probably a MISTAKE. Not a deal. Bush's administration has done tons of mistakes, that's probably just another one. But the deal thing is too far, c'mon. I know you German, and there you hate on Bush, but a deal to let him destroy the towers so they can attack Iraq is just good if you are 9 years old and you chilling with other 9 years old and there's a hot girl, and you wanna act like you know something or you are intellectual. But here there're no ladies to flirt with, and i'm 24 years old. So..
About Malone hell yeah he's the best PF in the league!!! But Duncan is a C.
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It's not suspect as fuck, man. It's probably a MISTAKE. Not a deal. Bush's administration has done tons of mistakes, that's probably just another one. But the deal thing is too far, c'mon. I know you German, and there you hate on Bush, but a deal to let him destroy the towers so they can attack Iraq is just good if you are 9 years old and you chilling with other 9 years old and there's a hot girl, and you wanna act like you know something or you are intellectual. But here there're no ladies to flirt with, and i'm 24 years old. So..
I said it once I said it twice and now Ima say it trice...
there are 2 options... either, the Bush Administration fucking dumb beyond all recognition, or, it's all thought through. Both things are incredible. I cant imagine political leaders being that dumb. Im talking about really dumb here. That's improbable.
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The "deal" shit is more improbable. Bush is really that stupid, lol. ;D