West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Thirteen on August 04, 2004, 08:52:01 PM
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I love the posts in this section. No matter what the topic is, who commited the crime, the responsibility all comes back to the United States...
I could start a topic about abortions in China and 5 posts later we would be discussing slavery in America.
just found it funny how Muslims can bomb churches and ultimately it comes down to it being America's fault...
Maybe some of you should try to do illegal things in your own countries, and see how far blaming America gets you...
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ya theres lots of America bashing in here. People are just jealous ::)
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When you're on top, everybody's gunnin' for you. Simple as that. Human nature, unfortunately, often loves to build things up, then tear them down. We do it to celebrities in America all the time, we build them up into super-humans, and then after we've had our way with them, we talk about how they were never that talented to begin with and even concoct stories about them until they're washed up has-beens. The world is doing the same to America right now, in my opinion.
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When you're on top, everybody's gunnin' for you. Simple as that. Human nature, unfortunately, often loves to build things up, then tear them down. We do it to celebrities in America all the time, we build them up into super-humans, and then after we've had our way with them, we talk about how they were never that talented to begin with and even concoct stories about them until they're washed up has-beens. The world is doing the same to America right now, in my opinion.
Ya, I agree.
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ya kno i dont agree with some of the stuff america does or has done in the past. but it just gets me how everytime an argument comes back to blaming america. even if the argument has nothing to do with america they will bring up something fucked up america has done in the past.
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"Why ya always bringin' up ol' shit?"
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Oh, and I'll just add, like I always do, that it doesn't matter what people's PERCEPTION of America is, or what they say about America, or attribute to America, there is always a truth, that doesn't change or get negated by words or comments. So if you know the truth, you should have solace in that.
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The Iraq war was a mistake. But people cant accept the fact and take responsibility that we took a a evil tyrant in saddam and made the country into a democracy which NOW doesn't support terrorism.
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I don't get what you're trying to say, and I don't believe the Iraq war was a mistake.
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ya kno i dont agree with some of the stuff america does or has done in the past. but it just gets me how everytime an argument comes back to blaming america. even if the argument has nothing to do with america they will bring up something fucked up america has done in the past.
This is true
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I don't get what you're trying to say, and I don't believe the Iraq war was a mistake.
Im trying to say that people cant admit that we did something good in Iraq.
It was a mistake, because Bush said there was WMDs but oh well.
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I don't get what you're trying to say, and I don't believe the Iraq war was a mistake.
Im trying to say that people cant admit that we did something good in Iraq.
It was a mistake, because Bush said there was WMDs but oh well.
i don't even argue about iraq anymore, there's no point..no matter how many people complain about it, we're still gonna be there until things get straightened out. some good has come of it and we might even see more positive things...i hope by the time i die Iraq is a great country
we could have found the cure to cancer in Iraq, and people would still complain because of the WMD thing
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we could have found the cure to cancer in Iraq, and people would still complain because of the WMD thing
LoL..Thats pretty fucked up if you ask me.
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with great power comes great responsibility.
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Somebody's a comic book fan, lol
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with great power comes great responsibility.
so as being a fan of spiderman for so long, the war in iraq was just and fair..... we let Sadaam do what he pleased while we turned our head (just like peter parker did with the mugger), and finally we got fed up and decided to get rid of him.... thanks for seeing it my way seven ;D
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since this topic is also called "Responsibility", my sentence was straight on point. The sentence popped into my head reading the thread, and for a few secondes I didnt even know where it was from. There's no connection with the comics intended, but I assume you guys were so concerned reading this that you decided to downplay the fact that Im actually on point with it with degrading the sentence. Which was simple, since it's just a comic movie quote.
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with great power comes great responsibility.
so why do i never see you talk about china that doesn't help kids who die because of hunger?
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When you're on top, everybody's gunnin' for you. Simple as that. Human nature, unfortunately, often loves to build things up, then tear them down. We do it to celebrities in America all the time, we build them up into super-humans, and then after we've had our way with them, we talk about how they were never that talented to begin with and even concoct stories about them until they're washed up has-beens. The world is doing the same to America right now, in my opinion.
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with great power comes great responsibility.
so why do i never see you talk about china that doesn't help kids who die because of hunger?
china is a screwed country man
the circumstances remind me of brazil in some areas
so many poor ppl in slums.. china should first get their own ppl .. many ppl .. to stop dying of hunger
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with great power comes great responsibility.
so why do i never see you talk about china that doesn't help kids who die because of hunger?
china is a screwed country man
the circumstances remind me of brazil in some areas
so many poor ppl in slums.. china should first get their own ppl .. many ppl .. to stop dying of hunger
You act like America doesn't know such a thing called "ghettos". China has a lot of power and a lot of money. They could easily help 3rd World countries, just like America does. China doesn't.
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7even dont know what to say b/c he knows hes one of the people this post was targeted at lol.
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7even got sonned ;D
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lol wtf
I was offline you wannabes.
First, even America has Ghettos. so even the american government isnt capable of running their state properly. Now imagine a state with 5 times the amount of ppl living in it. A country like china is close to impossible to keep proper.
China doesnt have a lot of money, that's a rumour. They have a lot of ppl, therefore of course more money than countries with a population of 1% of theirs.
Fact: America has like 36,500 $ GDP per capita, China has 4,400. What's more?
Fact: America hardly spends money to help 3rd world countries. Most of their money for foreign aid goes to Israel - wow, that's noble.
Fact: You are sonned. By me.
Fact: I havent read your reply until 3 minutes ago, so your postings about "7even doesnt reply, he's been sonned.. bla.." are pure wishes.
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Let's all talk about stupidity and ignorance!
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lol wtf
I was offline you wannabes.
First, even America has Ghettos. so even the american government isnt capable of running their state properly. Now imagine a state with 5 times the amount of ppl living in it. A country like china is close to impossible to keep proper.
China doesnt have a lot of money, that's a rumour. They have a lot of ppl, therefore of course more money than countries with a population of 1% of theirs.
Fact: America has like 36,500 $ GDP per capita, China has 4,400. What's more?
Fact: America hardly spends money to help 3rd world countries. Most of their money for foreign aid goes to Israel - wow, that's noble.
Fact: You are sonned. By me.
Fact: I havent read your reply until 3 minutes ago, so your postings about "7even doesnt reply, he's been sonned.. bla.." are pure wishes.
you just proved what smerlus was talkin about lol.
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Let's all talk about stupidity and ignorance!
:o how could I possibly strike back on that?!
you the man (http://www.werkzeugforum.de/images/artikel_ab_01052003/daumen_155pix.jpg)
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you just proved what smerlus was talkin about lol.
no, I just proved that Mauzip's China related argument was a nice try but nothing more than that.
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you the man (http://www.werkzeugforum.de/images/artikel_ab_01052003/daumen_155pix.jpg)
I know.
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Anyway my sig aint a diss, you stupid muthafuckaz! ;D ;)
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Have you been to china 7even.
I have been to Shangihai, China twice, and its probably the most modern city in the world. Its clean, no crime, modern Structures like bulidings, controlled, ect....
Also, China is rich as fuck man. Do you even know how much money they make? All the stuff you buy at stores and shit are all mostly made in china.
BTW, dont talk shit about Brazil, even tho you are right about how its crime rate is high and lots of homeless, China is not even as close as bad as Brazil. Im Brazilian and i should know.
America hardly spends money to help 3rd world countries. Most of their money for foreign aid goes to Israel - wow, that's noble.
America gives more money then any other country in the world ::)
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I have been to Shangihai, China twice, and its probably the most modern city in the world. Its clean, no crime, modern Structures like bulidings, controlled, ect....
That's like going to Beverly Hills, California and saying "I went to the US. Its very clean, everyone's rich, no homeless people, etc"
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Have you been to china 7even.
I have been to Shangihai, China twice, and its probably the most modern city in the world. Its clean, no crime, modern Structures like bulidings, controlled, ect....
Also, China is rich as fuck man. Do you even know how much money they make? All the stuff you buy at stores and shit are all mostly made in china.
BTW, dont talk shit about Brazil, even tho you are right about how its crime rate is high and lots of homeless, China is not even as close as bad as Brazil. Im Brazilian and i should know.
America hardly spends money to help 3rd world countries. Most of their money for foreign aid goes to Israel - wow, that's noble.
America gives more money then any other country in the world ::)
lol your posts are so damn sonable Im getting sick of it.
1. what david said. he's on point.
2. yea, all the stuff owned by american brands like Nike, which pay them 10 year old workers a disgusting low amount of money. great!
3. lol, first you say I shouldnt talk smack, then you say Im right, and then that it's even worse than China. Wow. how did I talk smack then?
4. first, America spends a relatively spoken low amount of money if you take into acount how many citizens there are. which is a thing you have to take into account, unless you just want to dickride america. second, as I said before, most of the money goes to Israel, and I dont support that in any way imagineable.
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The foreign aid argument is a glass half empty, glass half full thing.
Some people see it as "We give the most"
others see it as "You dont give what you could give"
Can we leave it at that? :)
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That's like going to Beverly Hills, California and saying "I went to the US. Its very clean, everyone's rich, no homeless people, etc"
Apples and Oranges...doesmore then the half of the population of the US live in Beverly Hills? No. Now those more then half of the poplation of china live in Shanghia? Yes.
yea, all the stuff owned by american brands like Nike, which pay them 10 year old workers a disgusting low amount of money. great!
Nike is owned by the US..haha your smart ::)
lol, first you say I shouldnt talk smack, then you say Im right, and then that it's even worse than China. Wow. how did I talk smack then?
Cuz i dont like people talking shit about Brazil.
4. first, America spends a relatively spoken low amount of money if you take into acount how many citizens there are. which is a thing you have to take into account, unless you just want to dickride america. second, as I said before, most of the money goes to Israel, and I dont support that in any way imagineable.
It doesnt matter per capita..fuck that.
The truth is the US has gave countries more money then any countired combined.
How come you dont support money going to Isreal? Do you want Isreal to become Palistine and become a terriost country that straps bombs to themselves and blow themselfs up to kill people? or do you want to give money to a country that supports the US and doesnt allow the terriosts palestinas to controll Isreal which would result in ANOTHER terriost country?
Oh wait..you live in Germany so you dont give a fuck. Sorry i forgot. :-\
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That's like going to Beverly Hills, California and saying "I went to the US. Its very clean, everyone's rich, no homeless people, etc"
Apples and Oranges...doesmore then the half of the population of the US live in Beverly Hills? No. Now those more then half of the poplation of china live in Shanghia? Yes.
yea, all the stuff owned by american brands like Nike, which pay them 10 year old workers a disgusting low amount of money. great!
Nike is owned by the US..haha your smart ::)
lol, first you say I shouldnt talk smack, then you say Im right, and then that it's even worse than China. Wow. how did I talk smack then?
Cuz i dont like people talking shit about Brazil.
4. first, America spends a relatively spoken low amount of money if you take into acount how many citizens there are. which is a thing you have to take into account, unless you just want to dickride america. second, as I said before, most of the money goes to Israel, and I dont support that in any way imagineable.
It doesnt matter per capita..fuck that.
The truth is the US has gave countries more money then any countired combined.
How come you dont support money going to Isreal? Do you want Isreal to become Palistine and become a terriost country that straps bombs to themselves and blow themselfs up to kill people? or do you want to give money to a country that supports the US and doesnt allow the terriosts palestinas to controll Isreal which would result in ANOTHER terriost country?
Oh wait..you live in Germany so you dont give a fuck. Sorry i forgot. :-\
LoL you wanna tell me Shanghai as half a billion inhabitants? LOL.
I havent talked shit about Brazil. I may have said negative things about Brazil, but since they're all true, there's no shit-talking involved.
Per capita does matter. And since I dont count (yes, I dont count it for real) the money the US gives to Israel, the US doesnt give much money, even if ignore per capita, to developement countries.
LoL, you wanna know why I dont support the Israeli Regime? I could write pages, and Im tired of it. Ask Don Rizzle.
Like if I was less concerned with terrorism cause Im from Germany.. you guys arent in danger at all.. Bush just talks shit, News talk shit, it's orange in big cities and shit, all just to put the American People in fear. So that they elect Bush, cause he kicks terrorists ass. It's psychology. You aren't in danger.
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did you ever think about this?
israel prevents about 60 suicide bombings a day. i bet they teach america how to do that also and that that's one of the reasons they get so much support from america.
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Per capita does matter.
It doesn't. China just keeps its own population poor. Can you start "sonning" China now please?
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did you ever think about this?
israel prevents about 60 suicide bombings a day. i bet they teach america how to do that also and that that's one of the reasons they get so much support from america.
funny to get props for preventing a part of something you actually caused in the first place. also, too bad they havent taught em how to prevent getting their own planes jacked and crashed into the biggest buildings in town. ppl act like it's no big deal that Israel steals land, and that it's weird that ppl retaliate. what would you say if ppl get with tanks and AK's to your town, pulling your house down and say: Mauzip, get away or we kill you. Then you ask why? And they say: Cause here it is stated that this land belongs to us. And they show you an 2000 year old book you dont even give a crap about. How's that?
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Like if I was less concerned with terrorism cause Im from Germany.. you guys arent in danger at all.. Bush just talks shit, News talk shit, it's orange in big cities and shit, all just to put the American People in fear. So that they elect Bush, cause he kicks terrorists ass. It's psychology. You aren't in danger.
Oh, so after 3,000 people were killed in New York and Vergina, we arent in danger at all? We should just move on without any tighter home land security or we shouldnt of ever put troops in Afganistan.?
Yeah, very smart ::) Then terroists would just build up more and more everyday and we would have attacks everyday.
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did you ever think about this?
israel prevents about 60 suicide bombings a day. i bet they teach america how to do that also and that that's one of the reasons they get so much support from america.
funny to get props for preventing a part of something you actually caused in the first place. also, too bad they havent taught em how to prevent getting their own planes jacked and crashed into the biggest buildings in town. ppl act like it's no big deal that Israel steals land, and that it's weird that ppl retaliate. what would you say if ppl get with tanks and AK's to your town, pulling your house down and say: Mauzip, get away or we kill you. Then you ask why? And they say: Cause here it is stated that this land belongs to us. And they show you an 2000 year old book you dont even give a crap about. How's that?
Reply ontopic please.
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Like if I was less concerned with terrorism cause Im from Germany.. you guys arent in danger at all.. Bush just talks shit, News talk shit, it's orange in big cities and shit, all just to put the American People in fear. So that they elect Bush, cause he kicks terrorists ass. It's psychology. You aren't in danger.
Oh, so after 3,000 people were killed in New York, we arent in danger at all? We should just move on without any tighter home land security or we shouldnt of ever put troops in Afganistan.?
Yeah, very smart ::) Then terroists would just build up more and more everyday and we would have attacks everyday.
Aight, one really huge bad thing happened, I give you that. Still.
e.g., you remember the big alert in NY lately? When they acted like some big shit was about to go on, and all ppl had their vans searched through and their bags searched through? The news about the terror stuff was 3 years old. Now, you decide. Either, your government is so fuckin DUMB that they make such an effort by mistake, or, your government wants to put you into fear, when there is nothing to fear. Whenever I turn on CNN, I hear the word Terror, although, nothing happens. Dont sleep boy. You ppl are fooled.
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OR you can just be happy they took precautions anyway :-\
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funny to get props for preventing a part of something you actually caused in the first place. also, too bad they havent taught em how to prevent getting their own planes jacked and crashed into the biggest buildings in town. ppl act like it's no big deal that Israel steals land, and that it's weird that ppl retaliate. what would you say if ppl get with tanks and AK's to your town, pulling your house down and say: Mauzip, get away or we kill you. Then you ask why? And they say: Cause here it is stated that this land belongs to us. And they show you an 2000 year old book you dont even give a crap about. How's that?
I would say:
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did you ever think about this?
israel prevents about 60 suicide bombings a day. i bet they teach america how to do that also and that that's one of the reasons they get so much support from america.
funny to get props for preventing a part of something you actually caused in the first place. also, too bad they havent taught em how to prevent getting their own planes jacked and crashed into the biggest buildings in town. ppl act like it's no big deal that Israel steals land, and that it's weird that ppl retaliate. what would you say if ppl get with tanks and AK's to your town, pulling your house down and say: Mauzip, get away or we kill you. Then you ask why? And they say: Cause here it is stated that this land belongs to us. And they show you an 2000 year old book you dont even give a crap about. How's that?
Reply ontopic please.
sometimes it's better when you say nothing at all. this actually was such a moment for you, and you missed it. next time when you aint got to say shit in return, dont say shit in return, it really is that simple. the bold part was on-topic to your post, and the other part was ontopic regarding to what Mach wanted to know, although I could write on for ages when it comes to this issue.
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OR you can just be happy they took precautions anyway :-\
yes exactually.
"Its better safe then sorrry"
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funny to get props for preventing a part of something you actually caused in the first place. also, too bad they havent taught em how to prevent getting their own planes jacked and crashed into the biggest buildings in town. ppl act like it's no big deal that Israel steals land, and that it's weird that ppl retaliate. what would you say if ppl get with tanks and AK's to your town, pulling your house down and say: Mauzip, get away or we kill you. Then you ask why? And they say: Cause here it is stated that this land belongs to us. And they show you an 2000 year old book you dont even give a crap about. How's that?
I would say:
(http://>>insert dumbed pic<<)
whenever the only reply one can give is a dumb forum-pic, it's like admits he's been shut down. this just happened.
OR you can just be happy they took precautions anyway
^ please..
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im not scared, i dont watch news, fuck terror, fuck terror alerts, i dont know if its bullshit or not, but having it effect my daily life is not on my agenda.
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Did you know the pope is protestant?
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im not scared, i dont watch news, fuck terror, fuck terror alerts, i dont know if its bullshit or not, but having it effect my daily life is not on my agenda.
props to you, unfortunately that doesn't count for everyone.
in fact, they want ppl to think like that:
Terror everywhere!!!! (although nothing happens) --> Arabs=Terrorists!!! --> Bush: killls Arabs!!! --> Me: Safe!!!! --> Me: Vote for Bush!!!!
too bad this retarded stuff seems to work :-\
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I'm sure that when there finally is a terror attack you will say it's all set up by the Bush administration.
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Terror everywhere!!!! (although nothing happens) --> Arabs=Terrorists!!! --> Bush: killls Arabs!!! --> Me: Safe!!!! --> Me: Vote for Bush!!!!
too bad this retarded stuff seems to work :-\
Your being so ingorant rite now its not even funny.
"Terror everywhere!!!! (although nothing happens)" - When did the CIA ever say they are 100% sure its gunna happen. Never. They were taking precautions, since they had crediable intelligence infomation. What would hapen if there was a terriost attack and no Intelligence was given prior. "Blame Bush" signs would be everywhere.
Arabs=Terrorists!!! --> Bush: killls Arabs - Ignorance
Me: Safe!!!! --> Me: Vote for Bush!!!! - ya, with bush at least you no that your safe
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I'm sure that when there finally is a terror attack you will say it's all set up by the Bush administration.
only time will tell homie, only time. it depends on the case. however, you cant deny that what I said about the fear-strategy of Bush is true. Americans arent in danger, except the ones Bush sent to find WMDs that dont exist. But as long all you hear on News is terror-related and big men search your bags for terror stuff, and you cant get on a plane with baby milk, ppl live in a illusion of safety, when there isnt even danger.
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I'm sure that when there finally is a terror attack you will say it's all set up by the Bush administration.
My point exactually.
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Americans arent in danger,
Oh, they aren't. So how come they are threatened ever fucking day by terrorists
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Terror everywhere!!!! (although nothing happens) --> Arabs=Terrorists!!! --> Bush: killls Arabs!!! --> Me: Safe!!!! --> Me: Vote for Bush!!!!
too bad this retarded stuff seems to work :-\
Arabs=Terrorists!!! --> Bush: killls Arabs - Ignorance
Me: Safe!!!! --> Me: Vote for Bush!!!! - ya, with bush at least you no that your safe
how the hell am I ignorant. I cant even understand how someone can possibly disagree with me. whatever.
1. Ignorance? Yes. Your ignorance.
2. Yes. What I said. Thanks for confirming it. Except that there's no threat, and if there was, noone could prevent it. Bush's politics just create hate and terrorism.
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I'm sure that when there finally is a terror attack you will say it's all set up by the Bush administration.
only time will tell homie, only time. it depends on the case. however, you cant deny that what I said about the fear-strategy of Bush is true. Americans arent in danger, except the ones Bush sent to find WMDs that dont exist. But as long all you hear on News is terror-related and big men search your bags for terror stuff, and you cant get on a plane with baby milk, ppl live in a illusion of safety, when there isnt even danger.
If that's what it takes to make it safer, I'm all for it. I rather have them check everything than them to do nothing and let a terrorist in.
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how the hell am I ignorant.
For the most part you don't even know what you're talking about. You are so focussed on being anti-America that you lose touch with reality.
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Did you know the pope is protestant?
how does that make sense?
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how the hell am I ignorant.
For the most part you don't even know what you're talking about. You are so focussed on being anti-America that you lose touch with reality.
I would've said the same thing about you, just dickride-america instead of anti-america, but I thought it was too cheap. Plus we both know I got a point. You dont have to admit it tho, it's aight.
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I'm sure that when there finally is a terror attack you will say it's all set up by the Bush administration.
only time will tell homie, only time. it depends on the case. however, you cant deny that what I said about the fear-strategy of Bush is true. Americans arent in danger, except the ones Bush sent to find WMDs that dont exist. But as long all you hear on News is terror-related and big men search your bags for terror stuff, and you cant get on a plane with baby milk, ppl live in a illusion of safety, when there isnt even danger.
why would u disagree with tighter airport security, it can only do good....
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how the hell am I ignorant.
For the most part you don't even know what you're talking about. You are so focussed on being anti-America that you lose touch with reality.
ya hes just a jealous anti-American.
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how the hell am I ignorant.
For the most part you don't even know what you're talking about. You are so focussed on being anti-America that you lose touch with reality.
ya hes just a jealous anti-American.
lmao. jealous? of what? of your freedom? LOL. you heard too many Bush-Speeches.
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7even, have you ever been in America?
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7even, have you ever been in America?
no.
How does that bash me? Im talking about foreign politics here. Plus, domestic things like gun rule everyone knows. They're fucked up too, I dont have to be in the country to see that. Plus, I know adult Americans, related to my Dad in some way. Ive talked to them lately, whatever. I dont see how Im a dick for saying what I said "despite" Ive never been in America. It's like when you say "Saddam did fucked up things" and I ask "Mauzip, have you ever been in Iraq?"
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How that bashes you? You'd be able to make a 7-year-old believe it's bad to live in America because Bush is an evil dictator who doesn't allow freedom of speech, etc.
/me -> bedtime
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How that bashes you? You'd be able to make a 7-year-old believe it's bad to live in America because Bush is an evil dictator who doesn't allow freedom of speech, etc.
/me -> bedtime
weird stuff. good night though. has been fun today. anytime, man, anytime.
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Plus, domestic things like gun rule everyone knows. They're fucked up too,
Everyone should have a right to own a gun.
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Plus, domestic things like gun rule everyone knows. They're fucked up too,
Everyone should have a right to own a gun.
This is the smartest thing you've ever said LOL
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I dont know where to begin. I read 2 pages of pure BS. So ill summarize instead of quoting lines and lines of bs.
1. America in no way shape or form more safe, then we were on 911. Its as simple as that. Yea maybe every so often an airport worker makes you take off your shoes, and stops you from taking a nail clipper onto a plane(they took mine, said it was a weapon). But truth be told, if you were a terrorist would you use planes again to terrorize....only if your retarted. The next attack will be unique, probably chemical, as in spreading a virus that was in a little plastic bag. So machiavelli dont even bother with your " with bush at least you no that your safe" bull.
2. Im not going to even bother debating the iraq war anymore.
3. 7even is exactly right, "terror everywhere." Ever since 911 the homeland security/Cia/Nsa.....all they do is keep informing the america public of "possible terrorist attack." Hey did you guys hear that the WW2 dedication ceremony was going to be bombed? Oops my bad it already took place.....no terrorist attack. Ill be 99% positive that nothing will happen with these current "possible bank company terrorist attacks." As we know from the iraq war, Our intelligence is horrible, so dont rely too much on it.
"me: Safe!!!! --> Me: Vote for Bush" bush will be dead by the time your old enough to vote.
I nor 7even are anti american....i live in america. I love the country, although sometimes i disagree with what goes on in this place, but thats the beauty of america...freedom.
And trust me i have enough weapons in my house....for a rainy day.
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i see here's another debate that's two sided
first people say it's bush's fault that the twin towers got bombed because he didn't heed any of the warnings
now we listen to every warning and he's a moron for doing so...
once again, doesn't make much sense
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i see here's another debate that's two sided
first people say it's bush's fault that the twin towers got bombed because he didn't heed any of the warnings
now we listen to every warning and he's a moron for doing so...
once again, doesn't make much sense
Yes, people are hypocrites.
And Rampant, how come your oppions are way different then they were before July 20th. Did you get brain washed by Micheal Moores propaganda? or was it Maradonas thread?
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i see here's another debate that's two sided
first people say it's bush's fault that the twin towers got bombed because he didn't heed any of the warnings
now we listen to every warning and he's a moron for doing so...
once again, doesn't make much sense
Yes, people are hypocrites.
And Rampant, how come your oppions are way different then they were before July 20th. Did you get brain washed by Micheal Moores propaganda? or was it Maradonas thread?
he's got a point.....you can have your own opinions now...Maradona is gone and he won't come back for another few days
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trust me, maradona didnt change my mind.
Ive always thought that we werent any safer. ive always stood by the fact that "you cant stop terrorism no matter how hard you try"
i have kept my same beliefs, but i will admit i have changed my opinion twoards certain things.
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smerlus ... dont act like you wouldnt think Im right ;)
rampant, there was a reason why most ppl voted for you as the most improved poster, dont listen to machiavelli. he's just jealous that you're a cool guy now and he's still the moron.
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sorry i havn't read the 3 pages of replies i don't have time but from the first post i'll give mine. when my parent baught me up they would say things like "no one likes a show off" which is what america does, most americans walk and talk like they are better than any other country in the world, but more to the point the american government acts in this way which is why people will always bitch about america.
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smerlus ... dont act like you wouldnt think Im right ;)
rampant, there was a reason why most ppl voted for you as the most improved poster, dont listen to machiavelli. he's just jealous that you're a cool guy now and he's still the moron.
i'm not pointing this thread at you seven...i just find it funny that all threads in TOT come back to how bad america is....it's so funny i think i'll start finding obscure connections to link a thread to the US... like when someone makes an interesting post about the life cycle in the saharra desert.... i'll complain why American environmentalists don't so anything to help the poor hungry gazelle during the long dry season
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it amazes me how people who like the country of America and not the gov't of America are deemed Anti-Americans while those who like the govt of America over the actual country walk around claiming they are true patriots. For example Michael Moore has never said anything bad about America in terms of the actual country, people and culture, just the gov't and he gets deemed Anti-American. And why? because he prefers the country over the president
fuck, it should be considered treason to favour an institution before the actual country, culture and people. Alot of you are whining on here about Anti-Americans yet i aint really seen any poster who is considerably Anti-American just anti-govt/Anti-Bush.
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it amazes me how people who like the country of America and not the gov't of America are deemed Anti-Americans while those who like the govt of America over the actual country walk around claiming they are true patriots. For example Michael Moore has never said anything bad about America in terms of the actual country, people and culture, just the gov't and he gets deemed Anti-American. And why? because he prefers the country over the president
fuck, it should be considered treason to favour an institution before the actual country, culture and people. Alot of you are whining on here about Anti-Americans yet i aint really seen any poster who is considerably Anti-American just anti-govt/Anti-Bush.
because the government is a large part of america.....it's like saying i'm a vegetarian but i still eat steaks
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it amazes me how people who like the country of America and not the gov't of America are deemed Anti-Americans while those who like the govt of America over the actual country walk around claiming they are true patriots. For example Michael Moore has never said anything bad about America in terms of the actual country, people and culture, just the gov't and he gets deemed Anti-American. And why? because he prefers the country over the president
fuck, it should be considered treason to favour an institution before the actual country, culture and people. Alot of you are whining on here about Anti-Americans yet i aint really seen any poster who is considerably Anti-American just anti-govt/Anti-Bush.
because the government is a large part of america.....it's like saying i'm a vegetarian but i still eat steaks
how is it anything like that? how do you know that any of the people that are deemed anti-American voted for the current Gov't? these people are basically saying they think the gov't is making some mistakes and doing wrong to America and thats deemed Anti-American? because they are trying to defend America. People on this board call others Anti-American because they don't like George W. Bush. George W. Bush is only one American and only one President. he is in no way a personfication of American culture or its people.
just because I didn't like Saddam Hussain there would be no reason to claim me as Anti-Iraq.
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steaks are only one meat ;D
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I know quite a few people that are really anti-American. Why? I assume it's because of the Iraqi war since I never heard anyone about this before that.
These people don't like the American gov't (of course), but they also don't like Americans. They think they are arrogant. Why? They have absolutely no reason for that. It's just their appearance or something. I really don't feel like typing up everything they have against Americans, but believe me when I say it's almost everything they do.
Also, (most of) these people have never even been to the United States and the only times they have "met" an American was when they coincidentally saw one in a store.
I think these people are stupid, dumb and ignorant. You can't even seem to make sense to these people when you tell them that it's not fair to hate on the American people. I can understand if you hate Bush, but don't hate on the American people.