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Title: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: 7even on August 08, 2004, 05:11:58 PM
it's unbelieveable that ppl accept this. what the hell is going on with you guys? I'd never accept that in my country. the land of the free, america. free patriots in the patriot act.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 08, 2004, 05:53:32 PM
Who says we accept it?
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Jome on August 08, 2004, 06:57:00 PM
In detail, what does the partiot act say.. ??
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 08, 2004, 07:02:50 PM
It basically gives the american government freedom to do what they want.

The Bush Administration's Patriot Act  threatens our constitutional rights and civil liberties. Passed by a post 9/11 Congress, the Patriot act expands the ability of law enforcement to conduct secret searches, and engage various forms of surveillance, including internet monitoring and wiretapping. It gives the FBI access to American citizens' highly personal medical, financial, mental health, and student records without notification or permission, and allows them to investigate individuals without probable cause of a crime. Finally, it permits non-citizens to be jailed based on mere suspicion and held indefinitely in six month increments without meaningful judicial review.

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&c=207

found that site, but dont know if its any help. i havent looked at it yet.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 08, 2004, 07:40:20 PM
I accept the Patriot act as well as Racial Profiling.

If I see a guy wearing a turban going through security in an airport i would stop him and interagate him. I dont give a fuck.

I know that sounds fucked up, but we gotta make sure theres no wacko doing Terrorist shit in the US.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: davida.b. on August 08, 2004, 08:26:50 PM
I accept the Patriot act as well as Racial Profiling.


Well you're a dumbass, therefore your opinion doesn't count.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: white Boy on August 08, 2004, 10:09:20 PM
I accept the Patriot act as well as Racial Profiling.


Well you're a dumbass, therefore your opinion doesn't count.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Don Jacob on August 08, 2004, 10:43:14 PM
it hasn't effected me once so i guess i have no choice or reason to reject it.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: ARYC on August 09, 2004, 02:57:29 AM
7even ... why do u obsess with what's happening in the US so much?and i'm not talking about there foreign policys but about stuff that doesn't really affect u like the patriot act. just a question
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: 7even on August 09, 2004, 05:32:29 AM
7even ... why do u obsess with what's happening in the US so much?and i'm not talking about there foreign policys but about stuff that doesn't really affect u like the patriot act. just a question
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Finally, it permits non-citizens to be jailed based on mere suspicion and held indefinitely in six month increments without meaningful judicial review.
^^^ Me

Im very happy it doesnt affect me (yet) Im telling.. but it could set trends.. that's what I also fear. Besides, until yesterday I didnt know much about the Patriot Act, but then, I saw this Alex Wilson or whatever he's called movie, and it also dealt with the Patriot Act. Shit's sick as hell.

Give up your rights, your privacy, your freedom. For what? Safety? Aww come on, you cant be that naive.

I personally have a real problem with ppl I hate knowing what I baught at Wal Mart, what I rent in the library and also giving ppl I hate the right to come to my house, search for stuff and forbidding me to tell anyone. Shit's sick as hell. What's even crazier is the congress being forced to sign it.

Fear of terror rules your country people.. wake up.

p.s.: it can also kill the freedom of the press, cause whenever someone found out some shit that is exposing bush of something, they have the right to come to his house, take his stuff and he isnt even allowed to make it public. think about that.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Real American on August 09, 2004, 06:20:59 AM
There is nothing unconstitutional about the Patriot Act. The people who complain about it know nothing about it. It is mearly a law that gives law enforcenment the tools it needs to protect us.

Would you prefer the way it was before, where Middle Easterners with radical Islamic beliefs were in our country learning how to fly (but not land) and no one said a thing?

Wiretapping, surveillance, searches....those are things all governments do to protect its citizens. If you object to that then you are basically giving your endorsement to terror.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on August 09, 2004, 06:39:01 AM
As I hit my dodo stick to the break of dawn....
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 09, 2004, 06:52:07 AM
First of all, the patriot is unconstitutional, all you have to do is read the constitution. It states that "Law enforcment need warrants (with reasonable evidence to get the warrants) to search a house, tap a phone, etc. With the patriot act you dont need a warrant. If thats not a contradiction i dont know what is.

Second, machiavelli your a moron

I gurantee you the only reason it passed in congress, is because the bush administration submitted this bill during the time of 9/11. Everyone was afraid that this is going to happen again real soon, so congress passed the law. If you watch farenheit 911 congressman openly said that they did not even read this bill. He said that it was drafted at night and presented in the morning and was passed that day, but now after its all been said and done people are starting to question the bill. But to be honest most americans dont even know what it is.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Jay ay Beee on August 09, 2004, 08:42:38 AM
If I see a guy wearing a turban going through security in an airport i would stop him and interagate him. I dont give a fuck.
I know that sounds fucked up, but we gotta make sure theres no wacko doing Terrorist shit in the US.


Name one example of Sikh terrorism towards the West.

And don't dodge the question, or start crying for sympathy because your 8 years old, if you write shit in this forum you dto be held accountable to it.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: mauzip on August 09, 2004, 08:47:02 AM
I really don't see what the problem here is exactly. This is like making a problem of cameras in the mall -> lame, stupid, dumb

Lastly, I'd like to say Machiavelli is a moron and he's a disgrace of the real Machiavelli.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: white Boy on August 09, 2004, 12:52:52 PM
Wiretapping, surveillance, searches....those are things all governments do to protect its citizens. If you object to that then you are basically giving your endorsement to terror.
i dont know about you, but to me this isnt right, to me this isnt democracy, this is what the fuckin USSR did. This is everything we fight for, when we fight comunism, this isnt freedom. fuck terror, im not loosing rights over terror.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Thirteen on August 09, 2004, 12:53:34 PM
how's this for a grand idea.... don't do anything wrong and they won't bother you.... i'm positive that their not gonna go around kicking in 90 year old ladies doors because they said something bad about their social security checks....


and another thing, if the things like this piss you off so much seven....get a life and find something better to do with it...when they talked about non citizen's they were talking about the residents here that may be applying for citizen ship, or people visiting (in case they would have to be highly suspicious)....fucking look up the weather in america or something and quit your bitching about something that has nothing to do with you
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 09, 2004, 03:52:54 PM
Name one example of Sikh terrorism towards the West.

And don't dodge the question, or start crying for sympathy because your 8 years old, if you write shit in this forum you dto be held accountable to it.

Ever heard of the Air India Flight 182 disaster in June 23, 1985 that left Toronto, Canada and  blew up near Ireland that killed  329 aboard including 60 children under the age of 10. ::)



Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Jay ay Beee on August 09, 2004, 05:13:08 PM
Yeah.

Sikhs attacking India.

So how is that an attack on the West?

You made a silly, ill-informed comment about the Patriot Act, referring to turbans, which only Sikhs wear. 

What that has to do with the current situation, I don't know.

While were at it, you never responded to my Kerry post.

But sorry if I'm getting aggressive, I know your only little.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 09, 2004, 05:27:30 PM
i dont think he knows which direction is west
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Real American on August 09, 2004, 05:56:33 PM
Wiretapping, surveillance, searches....those are things all governments do to protect its citizens. If you object to that then you are basically giving your endorsement to terror.
i dont know about you, but to me this isnt right, to me this isnt democracy, this is what the fuckin USSR did. This is everything we fight for, when we fight comunism, this isnt freedom. fuck terror, im not loosing rights over terror.

So if you are against wiretapping, surveillance, and searches of terrorists.......how would you prevent another 9/11 from happening?
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: white Boy on August 09, 2004, 05:59:26 PM
truthfully i dont know, but the government invading my privacy, isnt something i support, im sorry, but i like my freedom.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 09, 2004, 06:08:57 PM
.
Yeah.

Sikhs attacking India.

So how is that an attack on the West?

You made a silly, ill-informed comment about the Patriot Act, referring to turbans, which only Sikhs wear.
Sikhs attacked an Air India flight which left from Canada.

Last time I checked, Canada is in the west.


Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 09, 2004, 06:13:27 PM
Ever heard of the Air India Flight 182 disaster in June 23, 1985 that left Toronto, Canada and  blew up near Ireland that killed  329 aboard including 60 children under the age of 10. ::)
So if a plane was hijacked in china, and crashed into the white house....would say china was attacked?

last time i checked ireland was in the east. Go back to middle school and look at a map.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: 7even on August 09, 2004, 06:42:21 PM



and another thing, if the things like this piss you off so much seven....get a life and find something better to do with it...when they talked about non citizen's they were talking about the residents here that may be applying for citizen ship, or people visiting (in case they would have to be highly suspicious)....fucking look up the weather in america or something and quit your bitching about something that has nothing to do with you


so my concern makes me a no-lifer? hm, sounds right in a world in which everybody is so fuckin' cold and egocentric
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: davida.b. on August 09, 2004, 06:44:28 PM
I would go to war to stop the US Patriot Act.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 09, 2004, 07:08:59 PM

So if a plane was hijacked in china, and crashed into the white house....would say china was attacked?

last time i checked ireland was in the east. Go back to middle school and look at a map.

LMAO... Well the plane was hijacked in Tronto, Canada. When it was over 35,000 feet in the air near Ireland it blew up. It never crashed into Ireland dumbass ::). This was Terriost attack against Canada beacusae everone on board was Canadian and the Sikh had organizations in Canada.

STFU, if you dont know anything about Air India flight 182 diaster.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Jome on August 09, 2004, 07:40:31 PM
It basically gives the american government freedom to do what they want.

The Bush Administration's Patriot Act  threatens our constitutional rights and civil liberties. Passed by a post 9/11 Congress, the Patriot act expands the ability of law enforcement to conduct secret searches, and engage various forms of surveillance, including internet monitoring and wiretapping. It gives the FBI access to American citizens' highly personal medical, financial, mental health, and student records without notification or permission, and allows them to investigate individuals without probable cause of a crime. Finally, it permits non-citizens to be jailed based on mere suspicion and held indefinitely in six month increments without meaningful judicial review.

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&c=207

found that site, but dont know if its any help. i havent looked at it yet.


Sounds great..

Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Jay ay Beee on August 09, 2004, 07:43:23 PM
Mach, since you are such an expert, who was the Air India attack targeted at?

You made a stupid comment about turbans, and now you're in a mess, trying to say that Air India was an attack on the West because the plane full of Indians took off in Canada.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 09, 2004, 07:50:30 PM
Mach, since you are such an expert, who was the Air India attack targeted at?

You made a stupid comment about turbans, and now you're in a mess, trying to say that Air India was an attack on the West because the plane full of Indians took off in Canada.

The Air India attack was targeted at the Canadains they say.

Actually few Indians were aboard the plane that took off from Tronto at 11:45AM. The plane had mutiple stops before it went to India. Most of the Indians were suppose to get on the plane in London.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 09, 2004, 08:11:10 PM

So if a plane was hijacked in china, and crashed into the white house....would say china was attacked?

last time i checked ireland was in the east. Go back to middle school and look at a map.

LMAO... Well the plane was hijacked in Tronto, Canada. When it was over 35,000 feet in the air near Ireland it blew up. It never crashed into Ireland dumbass ::). This was Terriost attack against Canada beacusae everone on board was Canadian and the Sikh had organizations in Canada.

STFU, if you dont know anything about Air India flight 182 diaster.

Well since your such a fucking genius, why dont you give me a passenger list of this flight. Since you seem to know soooo much about this flight, and who was on it. for some reason i dont believe you, that everyone on the plane was canadian.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 09, 2004, 08:18:11 PM

Well since your such a fucking genius, why dont you give me a passenger list of this flight. Since you seem to know soooo much about this flight, and who was on it. for some reason i dont believe you, that everyone on the plane was canadian.

There were 260 citizens of Canada, more than 20 nationals of India and 22 Americans on board among others.

AGGARWALL RAHUL 23 M
AHMED INDRA 47 F
AHMED SARAH 8 F
ALEXANDER ANNAMMA 53 F
ALEXANDER ANCHANATT (ATAR) 40 M
ALEXANDER REENA(RENA) 10 F
ALEXANDER SIMON JR. 9 M
ALEXANDER SIMON 54 M
ALLARD COLLETTE 46 F
ANANTARAMAN ARUNA (ARVHA) 15 F
ANANTARMAN RUPA (KUPA) 12 F
ANANTARMAN BHAVANI 48 F
ASIRWATHAM RUTH 39 F
ASIRWATHAM HANNAH 14 F
ASIRWATHAM ELIZABETH 11 F
AURORA SHYLA 27 F
BAJAJ ANU (ANJUBALA) (ANJU) 21 F
BALARAMAN SARADAMBAL 40 F
BALARAMAN MARAYANAN (RODGER) 17 M
BALASUBRAMANIAN RAMACHANDRAN 43 M
BALSARA FREDDY 29 M
BEAUCHESNE GASTON 54 M
BEDI JATIN 9 M
BEDI SAROJ 34 F
BEDI ANU 14 F
BERAR JOGESHWAR 45 M
BERRY SHARAD 16 M
BERY ADITYA 4 M
BERY NEELAM 37 F
BERY PRIYA 7 F
BHAGAT ADUSH 29 M
BHALLA NIRMAL 31 F
BHALLA MANJU 14 F
BHALLA DALIP 7 M
BHARADWAJ HARISH 18 M
BHASIN REEMA 22 F
BHAT MUKTHA 50 F
BHAT CHAND 27 F
BHAT DEEPAK 9 M
BHAT SIDHANT 0.5 M
BHAT PARAG 26 M
BHATT TINA 9 F
BHATT BINA 15 F
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BHATT VINU (VINUBHAI) 42 M
BHINDER SATWINDER 41 M
BISEN LEENA 29 F
CASTONGUAY ROCHELL (RACHELLE) 32 F
CHANDRASEKHAR SUKMAR (SUKUMAR) 25 M
CHATLANI NITA 44 F
CHATLANI MALA 13 F
CHATLANI MARC 4 M
CHEEMA SHINGARA 35 M
CHOPRA JAGDISH 71 M
CHOPRA SHAMPARI (CHAMPARI) 69 F
CHUG RATNA 19 F
DANIEL CELINE 37 F
DANIEL ROBYN (ROBIN) 4 F
DANIEL RUBY 8 F
DANIEL VARGHESE 41 F
DAS ANITA 16 F
DAS RUBY 44 F
DAS ARINDAR 14 M
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DESOUZA RONALD 62 M
DHUNNA SUNEAL 2 M
DHUNNA SHASHI 16 F
DHUNNA BHAG (BHAGRANI) 33 F
DHUNNA RAJESH 14 M
DINSHAW PAMELA 26 F
DINSHAW JAMSHED 40 M
DUMASIA DARA 57 M
ENAYATI ARDESHIR 68 M
FURDOONJI HOMAI 49 F
GADKAR ANITA 11 F
GAMBHIR ANGI (ANGELINE) 9 F
GAMBHIR SANTOSH 35 F
GAMBHIR JULIE 4 F
GAONKAR SHYAMA 28 F
GHATE SANGEETA 28 F
GOGIA BHAGWANTI 65 F
GOGNE RITU 16 F
GOPALAN KRISHNA 23 M
GOSSAIN APARNA 7 F
GOSSAIN KALPANA 31 F
GOSSAIN ARUN 4 M
GREWAL DALJIT 42 M
GUPTA ARTI 9 F
GUPTA RAMWATI 37 F
GUPTA SHASHI 36 F
GUPTA VISHAL 11 M
GUPTA SANTOSH 57 F
GUPTA ANUMITA 16 F
GUPTA VANDANA 15 F
GUPTA AMIT 6 M
GUPTA RAJESH 45 M
GUPTA SWANTANTAR (SATANTAR) 38 F
GUPTA S. F
HARPALANI DEEPA 9 F
HARPALANI SUMENTA 5 F
HARPALANI RASHMI 40 F
JACOB ALEYKUTTY 40 F
JACOB JUSTIN 8 M
JACOB JANCEY 9 F
JACOB JISSEY 12 F
JACOB BULIVELIL 45 M
JAIN RANI 36 F
JAIN RUCHI 18 F
JAIN ANUUPAMA 15 F
JAIN PARASH (PRAEASH) 43 M
JAIN RIKKI 16 F
JAIPURIA (JAIPURIYA) MALA 27 F
JALAN ANITA 3 F
JALAN DEVKRISHAN 35 M
JALAN SHILA 29 F
JALAN VINAY 0.2 M
JAMES ANNIE 41 F
JETHVA ZEBUNISKA 42 F
JETHVA UMAR (UJY) 45 M
JOB ALEYKUTTY 43 F
JOB TEENA 14 F
JUTRAS RITA 32 F
KACHROO MOHAN 57 F
KAJ LEENA 25 F
KALSI INDIRA 21 F
KAMMILA RAMA (RAMADEVI) 15 F
KAPOOR SANTOSH (SANTASH) 39 F
KAPOOR SABRINA 6 F
KAPOOR SHARMILA 16 F
KASHIPRI ATHIKHO 20 M
KASHIPRI NELI 30 M
KAUR GURMIT 22 F
KAUR (BASSI) PARMJIT 26 F
KAUSHAL BISHAN 45 M
KELLY BARSA 48 F
KHAN RAHAMATHULLA 25 M
KHANDELWAL MANJU 19 F
KHANDELWAL CHANDRA 21 F
KHERA RASHIRASHMI 3 F
KHERA SUMAN 28 F
KOCHHER (KOCHNAR) SANDEEP 21 M
KUMAR MANJU 28 F
KUMAR CHITRA 29 F
KUMAR KEVIN 1.5 M
KUMAR RAMACHANDRAN 34 M
LAKSHMANAN KANAKASABAPAPHY (KANAKA) 40 M
LAKSHMANAN PREETHI 7 F
LASRADO SHARON 23 F
LAURENCE NICOLA 16 F
LAURENCE SHYAMALA 18 F
LAZAR SANDEETA 3 F
LAZAR SYLVIA 38 F
LAZAR SAMPATH 44 M
LEGER JOSEPH (PERE) 65 M
LOUGHEED DONALD 48 M
LULLA MONISH 16 M
MADON SAM 40 M
MAINGUAY LENA (LINA) 35 F
MALHOTRA ATUL 26 M
MAMAK RAJINDER 42 F
MANJANIA NASIB 62 F
MARJARA SEEMA 17 F
MARJARA DAVINDER 47 F
MARTEL ALAIN 32 M
MEHTA NEESHA (NISHA) 15 F
MEHTA KISHONECHANDRA 48 M
MEHTA CHANDRALEKHA (CHANDRA) 41 F
MEHTA NILISH (NILESH) 16 M
MERCHANT NATASHA 7 F
MINHAS BALWINDER 51 F
MINHAS KULBIR 24 F
MOLAKALA (REDDY) PRABHAVATHI 34 F
MUKERJI SHEFALI 50 F
MUKERJI NISHITH 50 M
MUKHI RENU 26 F
MULLICK DEEPAK 42 M
MURTHY NARAYANA 8 M
MURTHY SUSHEELA 40 F
MURTHY BHAVANI 10 F
MURUGAN GNANENDRAN 44 M
MURUGAN SUMITHRA 37 F
MURUGAN LAVANYA 10 F
MURUGAN RAMYA 5 F
NADKARNI RAHUL 16 M
NADKARNI DEVEN 17 M
NARENDRA HANSE 56 M
NAYUDAMMA YELABARTI 62 M
PADA BRINDA 18 F
PADA ARATI 15 F
PADA VISHNU 47 M
PALIWAL MUKUL 15 M
PATEL BIPAN (BIPIN) 17 M
PATEL MOHANBHAI 35 M
PATEL BABUBAI (BABUBHAI) 42 M
PATEL MARAZBAN 57 M
PHANSEKAR RITA 26 F
PURI VEENA 43 F
PURI AMIT 5 M
PURI CHAMAN (ASHU) 12 F
QUADRI SYED 0.8 M
QUADRI SHAIESTA (SHAISTA) 24 F
QUADRI QUTUBUDDIN (QUTBUDIN) 40 M
QUADRI RUBINA 8 F
QUADRI ARISHIYA (ARSHYA) 3 F
RADHAKRISHNA NAGASUMDARA 36 F
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RAGHAVAN SUSEELA 23 F
RAGHUVEERAN VASANTHA 40 F
RAGHUVEERAN RAJIV 14 M
RAI KIRANJIT 11 F
RAMACHANDRAN PRATIBHA 13 F
RAMASWAMY JANAKI 15 F
RAUTHAN BUDI (BUDHI) 40 M
RAUTHAN POUJA (FOAJA) 17 F
RODRICKS ELAINE 32 F
SABHARWAL MEGHAN (MEGHANA) 11 F
SADIQ SUGRA 67 F
SAGI SUJATHA 31 F
SAGI KALPANA 11 F
SAGI KAVITA (KAVITHA) 7 F
SAHA BIMAL 37 M
SAHU RAM 50 M
SAHU PUSHPA 14 F
SAHU PRADEEP 16 M
SAKHAWALKAR USHA 49 F
SAKHAWALKAR DATTATRAYA 49 M
SAKHAWALKAR SANJAY 18 M
SAKHAWALKAR SUREKHA 15 F
SAKHAWALKAR SUNIL 13 M
SANKURATHRI MANJARI 33 F
SANKURATHRI SARODA 3 F
SANKURATHRI SRIKIRAN 6 M
SARANGI RAJASRI 14 F
SAWHNEY OM 50 M
SETH SADHNA 31 F
SETH ALPANA 8 F
SETH AHKUR (ANKUR) 1 M
SETH SATISH 38 M
SETH SHILPA 10 F
SETH KARAN 38 M
SHARMA VERSHA 11 F
SHARMA SHAKUNTALA 66 F
SHARMA NEERAJ 10 M
SHARMA SANDHYA 14 F
SHARMA SWATI 11 F
SHARMA INDU 38 F
SHARMA OM 54 M
SHARMA SHARVAN 46 M
SHARMA UMA 43 F
SHARMA RINA 7 F
SHARMA MANMOHAN 40 M
SHARMA SUSHMA 34 F
SHARMA RUBY 8 F
SHARMA (NARAIN) VIKAS 3 F
SHARMA (NARAIN) SUMITRA 42 F
SHARMA (NARAIN) ANUJ 10 M
SHARMA (NARAIN) SANDEEP 16 M
SHARMA (NARAIN) SHYAM 41 M
SHUKLA SUNIL 33 M
SHUKLA IRENE 29 F
SINGH JAGIT 24 M
SINGH MUKHTIAR 55 M
SINGH ABHINAV 8 M
SINGH SHALINI 9 F
SINGH DARA 17 M
SINGH BALVIR (BALBIR) 46 M
SINGH RANJINA 38 F
SINGH SHOBNA 14 F
SINGH AJAI 3 M
SINGH AMAR 9 M
SINGH USHA 35 F
SINGH AKHAND 40 M
SINGH JOYOSREE 33 F
SINGH SURENDRA 43 M
SINGH RATIK 1 M
SINHA ANJAMI 42 M
SONI USHA 39 F
SONI MONEKA 11 F
SONI RINA 10 F
SONI PANKAJ 3 M
SRAN PRIMAJIT (PRIMALJIT) 26 F
SRIVASTAVA BRIJBEHERI (BRIG) 38 M
SUBRAMANIAN LAKSHMI 42 F
SUBRAMANIAN VEENA 8 F
SUBRAMANIAN GOPALSAMUDRAM 44 M
SUBRAMANIAN JAYALAKSHMI 38 F
SUBRAMANIAN KRISHNAN 13 M
SUBRAMANIAN SUMITRA (SUMITHA) 3 F
SWAMINATHAN INDIRA 38 F
SWAMINATHAN PADMA 8 F
SWAMINATHAN RAMYA 5 F
SWAMINATHAN ANAND 15 M
TACHETTU (THACHETTU) IVY 20 F
THAKUR PRIYA 27 F
THAKUR VISHAL (VISHAI) 4 M
THAKUR KANAYA 46 M
THAKUR INDER 35 M
THAMPI VIJAYA 28 F
THOMAS MOLLY 46 F
THOMAS / KYTHAKUZHICAL VINOD 16 M
THOMAS / KYTHAKUZHICAL ANITA 15 F
THOMAS / KYTHAKUZHICAL KURIAN 53 M
TRAVASSO ANNE 44 F
TRAVASSO LYON (MICHAEL) 16 M
TRAVASSO LORRAINE (LUCY) 19 F
TRAVASSO C.F. (ALEX) 46 M
TRIVEDI NIRMAL (NIRMALA) 40 F
TRIVEDI PARUL 12 F
TRIVEDI NEETA 12 F
TUMKUR CHITRA (CHITRALSKHA) 17 F
TUMKUR RAMMOHAN 21 M
TURLAPATI SANJAY 15 M
TURLAPATI DEEPAK 11 M
UPPAL SUKHWINDER 35 F
UPPAL PARMINDER 10 F
UPPAL KULDIP 9 M
UPRETI VIRKAM 10 M
UPRETI HEMA 40 F
UPRETI GYANDRA 43 M
VAID NOSHIR 34 M
VAZ / ALEXANDER JULIET 28 F
VENKATESAN SUKUVANAM (SUKUNANAM) 31 M
VENKATESAN GEETHA 29 F
VENKETESWARAN KRISHNAN (TRICHUR) 46 M
VERMA BALWINDER 29 M
WADHAWA AKHIL 5 M
WADHAWA SERINA 8 F
YALLAPRAGADA / MURTHY GOPAL KRISHNA 63 M



Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Thirteen on August 09, 2004, 09:06:44 PM



and another thing, if the things like this piss you off so much seven....get a life and find something better to do with it...when they talked about non citizen's they were talking about the residents here that may be applying for citizen ship, or people visiting (in case they would have to be highly suspicious)....fucking look up the weather in america or something and quit your bitching about something that has nothing to do with you


so my concern makes me a no-lifer? hm, sounds right in a world in which everybody is so fuckin' cold and egocentric

why be so concerned with something that has no effect on you

it's like me being pissed off that it's going to rain in parts of Germany this weekend
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: 7even on August 10, 2004, 06:34:31 AM



and another thing, if the things like this piss you off so much seven....get a life and find something better to do with it...when they talked about non citizen's they were talking about the residents here that may be applying for citizen ship, or people visiting (in case they would have to be highly suspicious)....fucking look up the weather in america or something and quit your bitching about something that has nothing to do with you


so my concern makes me a no-lifer? hm, sounds right in a world in which everybody is so fuckin' cold and egocentric

why be so concerned with something that has no effect on you

it's like me being pissed off that it's going to rain in parts of Germany this weekend

no, because raining is nothing compared to the patriot act. besides it might have an effect on me, there are many possible ways in which it might affect me. for instance, ppl might vote Bush because they live in an illusion of safety because of the patriot act. no that would suck + have an effect on me.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: mauzip on August 10, 2004, 06:39:01 AM
^So in that case bush better not make any decisions again, good or bad.  ::)
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: 7even on August 10, 2004, 06:53:22 AM
^So in that case bush better not make any decisions again, good or bad.  ::)

things like the patriot act suck for the american people, although many might vote for him because of the patriot act. sounds ironic, is ironic, yet true.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Jay ay Beee on August 10, 2004, 07:14:54 AM
Read those names!

90% are Indian.

They were ex-Indians living in Canada travelling back to see their families in India.

Are you still trying to say this was an attack against the West?  Because the Sikh separatists were at war with India at the time. 
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Thirteen on August 10, 2004, 02:39:05 PM



and another thing, if the things like this piss you off so much seven....get a life and find something better to do with it...when they talked about non citizen's they were talking about the residents here that may be applying for citizen ship, or people visiting (in case they would have to be highly suspicious)....fucking look up the weather in america or something and quit your bitching about something that has nothing to do with you


so my concern makes me a no-lifer? hm, sounds right in a world in which everybody is so fuckin' cold and egocentric

why be so concerned with something that has no effect on you

it's like me being pissed off that it's going to rain in parts of Germany this weekend

no, because raining is nothing compared to the patriot act. besides it might have an effect on me, there are many possible ways in which it might affect me. for instance, ppl might vote Bush because they live in an illusion of safety because of the patriot act. no that would suck + have an effect on me.

nothing he's done has effected you yet so far...do you think he's going to wage war on germany next? don't worry about it
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: mauzip on August 10, 2004, 02:43:10 PM
Yesterday they placed cameras in the local supermarket. Where's my privacy going to? >:(
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: davida.b. on August 10, 2004, 02:59:43 PM
Yesterday they placed cameras in the local supermarket. Where's my privacy going to? >:(

LOL
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 10, 2004, 03:05:06 PM
Yesterday they placed cameras in the local supermarket. Where's my privacy going to? >:(
i think thats a little different then cops being able to enter your house without a warrant.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 10, 2004, 03:07:16 PM
[There were 260 citizens of Canada, more than 20 nationals of India and 22 Americans on board among others.
AGGARWALL RAHUL 23 M
AHMED INDRA 47 F
...
WADHAWA SERINA 8 F
YALLAPRAGADA / MURTHY GOPAL KRISHNA 63 M
so thats what canadians name their kids nowadays? interesting. I guess in canada, they stopped naming there kids bill, mike, josh, drew, etc.



Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: 7even on August 10, 2004, 03:17:48 PM
^

lmao what machiavelli did was like saying

Quote
No, Brad Pitt did NOT act it "fight club" you dumb ass. Here's a list of the cast bitch:

Cast (in credits order) verified as complete
Edward Norton   ....    Narrator
Brad Pitt   ....    Tyler Durden
Helena Bonham Carter   ....    Marla Singer
Meat Loaf   ....    Robert 'Bob' Paulson (as Meat Loaf Aday)
Zach Grenier   ....    Richard Chesler
Richmond Arquette   ....    Intern
David Andrews   ....    Thomas
George Maguire   ....    Group Leader
Eugenie Bondurant   ....    Weeping Woman
Christina Cabot   ....    Group Leader
Sydney 'Big Dawg' Colston   ....    Speaker
Rachel Singer   ....    Chloe
Christie Cronenweth   ....    Airline Attendant
Tim De Zarn   ....    Inspector Bird
Ezra Buzzington   ....    Inspector Dent
Dierdre Downing-Jackson   ....    Woman
Robert J. Stephenson   ....    Airport Security Officer
Charlie Dell   ....    Doorman
Rob Lanza   ....    Man in Suit
David Lee Smith   ....    Walter
Holt McCallany   ....    The Mechanic
Joel Bissonnette   ....    Food Court Maitre'd
Eion Bailey   ....    Ricky
Evan Mirand   ....    Steph
Robby Robinson   ....    Next Month's Opponent
Lou Beatty Jr.   ....    Cop at Marla's Building
Thom Gossom Jr.   ....    Detective Stern
Valerie Bickford   ....    Cosmetics Buyer
Jared Leto   ....    Angel Face
Peter Iacangelo   ....    Lou
Carl Ciarfalio   ....    Lou's Body Guard (as Carl N. Ciarfalio)
Stuart Blumberg   ....    Car Salesman
Todd Peirce   ....    First Man at Auto Shop
Mark Fite   ....    Second Man at Auto Shop
Matt Winston   ....    Seminary Student
Joon B. Kim   ....    Raymond K. Hessel
Bennie Moore   ....    Bus Driver with Broken Nose (as Bennie E. Moore Jr.)
W. Lauren Sanchez   ....    Channel 4 Reporter
Pat McNamara   ....    Commissioner Jacobs
Tyrone R. Livingston   ....    Banquet Speaker
Owen Masterson   ....    Airport Valet
David Jean Thomas   ....    Policeman (as David Jean-Thomas)
Paul Carafotes   ....    Salvator - Winking Bartender
Christopher John Fields   ....    Proprietor of Dry Cleaners
Anderson Bourell   ....    Bruised Bar Patron #1
Scotch Ellis Loring   ....    Bruised Bar Patron #2
Michael Shamus Wiles   ....    Bartender in Halo
Andi Carnick   ....    Hotel Desk Clerk
Edward Kowalczyk   ....    Waiter at Clifton's
Leonard Termo   ....    Desk Sergeant
Van Quattro   ....    Detective Andrew
Markus Redmond   ....    Detective Kevin
Michael Girardin   ....    Detective Walker
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Michael Arturo   ....    BMW Salesman (uncredited)
Paul Dillon   ....    Irvin (uncredited)
Phil Hawn   ....    Banquet Guest (uncredited)
Kevin Scott Mack   ....    Passenger Clutching Armrest (uncredited)
Louis Ortiz   ....    Fight patron (uncredited)
J.T. Pontino   ....    (uncredited)
Chad Randau   ....    Waiter (uncredited)
David Rockit Hynes   ....    Bruised Fighter (uncredited)
Marcio Rosario   ....    Fighter (uncredited)
Gregory Silva   ....    Riley Wilde (Fighter) (uncredited)
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: mauzip on August 10, 2004, 03:20:46 PM
Yesterday they placed cameras in the local supermarket. Where's my privacy going to? >:(
i think thats a little different then cops being able to enter your house without a warrant.

If they suspect you of something, why would they warn you in advance that they are going to enter your house? So you can quickly hide the stuff they might think is useful?
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: white Boy on August 10, 2004, 03:30:18 PM
i dont get what fight club has to do with anything??  ???
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Thirteen on August 10, 2004, 03:32:57 PM
i dont get what fight club has to do with anything??  ???

he did that because mach said that the sikhs attacked canada and then he listed a bunch of indian people...
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: white Boy on August 10, 2004, 03:45:44 PM
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Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Trauma-san on August 10, 2004, 06:51:01 PM
it's unbelieveable that ppl accept this. what the hell is going on with you guys? I'd never accept that in my country. the land of the free, america. free patriots in the patriot act.

None of us voted for it, or had anything to do with it.  The end. 
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 10, 2004, 07:03:51 PM
it's unbelieveable that ppl accept this. what the hell is going on with you guys? I'd never accept that in my country. the land of the free, america. free patriots in the patriot act.

None of us voted for it, or had anything to do with it.  The end. 

Exactly, even Congress didn't have a say in whether they should pass it.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: 7even on August 11, 2004, 05:29:43 AM
it's unbelieveable that ppl accept this. what the hell is going on with you guys? I'd never accept that in my country. the land of the free, america. free patriots in the patriot act.

None of us voted for it, or had anything to do with it.  The end. 

Exactly, even Congress didn't have a say in whether they should pass it.

that's the dictatorship-like part
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: BuddenzNasir on August 11, 2004, 12:24:55 PM
for the people that think this is necassary to stop another 9/11 pull ur head out of ur asses. 9/11 could have easily been prevented is Bush adminstration didnt either A. ignore warning B. Let it Happen or C.support/set it up........regardless bush n them fucked up, so we dont need anything else like this patriot act bullshit.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Montana00 on August 11, 2004, 01:09:42 PM
9/11 could be easily prevented? Now i dont like Bush, but im not going to say that he could have prevented it. Thats far from the truth.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Trauma-san on August 11, 2004, 02:40:18 PM
for the people that think this is necassary to stop another 9/11 pull ur head out of ur asses. 9/11 could have easily been prevented is Bush adminstration didnt either A. ignore warning B. Let it Happen or C.support/set it up........regardless bush n them fucked up, so we dont need anything else like this patriot act bullshit.

Ohhhh, gotcha.  I like how you ignored the fact that Bush had only been in office 9 months, Clinton had been 'not' dealing with it for 8 years, and the transfer of power was anything but harmonious, because Clinton's staff all thought Bush 'stole' the election. 

However, he gets full blame? LOL If you say so, buddy! 
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 11, 2004, 03:18:10 PM
for the people that think this is necassary to stop another 9/11 pull ur head out of ur asses. 9/11 could have easily been prevented is Bush adminstration didnt either A. ignore warning B. Let it Happen or C.support/set it up........regardless bush n them fucked up, so we dont need anything else like this patriot act bullshit.

Oh ya 9/11 could of easily been pervented ::) How in the hell would we know that terrorists were going to hijack planes and use them as missiles to destroy building? Oh, and Bush supported the killing of  3000 Americans? ::)


It was both Clinton and Bush's fault to stop 9/11, but just like Trauma said, Clinton was in office 8 years and Bush 9 months, Clinton had the most opportunities to stop 9/11. Hell, he could of caught Bin Laden when he knew his exact location.

Also, if a terrorist attack happened tomorrow, you would be bitching that Bush didn't warn the Nation.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 11, 2004, 09:21:15 PM
I don't support it but ain't shit I can do about it
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: BuddenzNasir on August 12, 2004, 05:20:16 AM
Apperently no one knows the real facts, its a damn shame, specially you machaveli your just getting your information from ur books in school and the 4th branch of the government
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Machiavelli on August 12, 2004, 07:40:34 AM
Apperently no one knows the real facts, its a damn shame, specially you machaveli your just getting your information from ur books in school and the 4th branch of the government

LoL...so your saying 9/11 was bush's fault is a fact ::)

YOUR the one who doesn know the real facts, you just know the conspiracy shit which isnt fact.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: BuddenzNasir on August 13, 2004, 05:29:41 AM
sorry machaveli but im not into most that conspirecy stuff. and Let bushignore all the warnings...i like that....but even after the first tower was hit he coulda order all planes down or they would be shot down....why didnt he do it till after all the planes finally crashed?.....you really think they wouldnt let this happen?....if USA is willing to let Japan do what they did to us at pearl harbor i think they would let this slide if they didnt support it.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 13, 2004, 09:25:13 PM
Clinton ordered the bombing of many Al-Quada terrorist camps. Clinton in fact did many times underground that unless you paid very close attention to the news, you'd never know we were threaten. One of George W. Bush's issues he ran on was to bring the military closer to home, because he said the military was spread out. Now this is not saying that taking troops out of the Middle East and attacking terrorist camps would help prevent 9/11, because that would happen no matter what, but I think by having the terrorist fighting a war in their own land, that would distract them some. Bush though said the troops were too spread out, and decided to bring them home, then in his first year in office, he spend most of it in Texas, ignoring warnings. Now 9/11 would still happen, but who knows how much Bush's inactions helped out Al-Quada
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: mauzip on August 14, 2004, 02:31:41 AM
^^When Clinton was still presidents they also bombed a few places in Iraq I believe.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 14, 2004, 09:28:58 AM
^^When Clinton was still presidents they also bombed a few places in Iraq I believe.

yep yep,. The U.N. checked out Iraq and they found places that could be making weapons in 1998. Saddam was said to be making weapons of mass distruction, so in the middle of the night, labs were bombed that were believed to making weapns and no one was killed. Amazing, isn't it. But since then, no one ever checked up to see if Iraq had weapons, until the U.N. found no weapons in 2002.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: hector on August 14, 2004, 10:23:46 PM
LMMFAO!  This damn forum is too fuckin funny.  I only read a few responses.  first off, Machiavelli, why do you keep posting in this section of the forum?  Your fuckin 14 years old dude.  You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, EVER.

second off:  I read someone asking why 7even has so much concern about America, a country in which he doesn't live, and doesn't affect him.  Well this response is to that fuckin idiot that asked the question:  Here in the American education system we are never really taught about other countries.  On the news we really don't see what goes on in the rest of the world, unless it involves America, or violence.  But since countries and people do exist outside America, it probably would be a good thing to learn about them and culture yourself.  I'll be the first to admit, I don't know jack shit about other countries.  I was never taught anything about them in school.  I was never encouraged to learn about the rest of the world through the education system I went thru.  Whoever asked this fuckin moronic question, should thank 7even for not being a close minded jackass like yourself, and is happy to learn about the rest of the world.

as for the patriot act: fuck it, I don't like it at all, but what the hell can I do?

as for the stupid fuckin americans that are for it:  what the fuck can you do.  these are just like the dumb ass snoop dogg dickriders on this forum.  except instead of riding snoops nuts, they ride the nuts of america.  these are the idiots that can't think for themselves.  they the same type of people that were nazi's.  If the government says it, then it must be true!  Law enforcement never makes mistakes here in amercia, nor are they biased, racist, or prejudiced.  and hell, if you have to sit in jail for a few weeks, thats no big deal.  Jail in america is like a high class hotel.  You are treated with much respect.  Hell and if you do get imprisoned, you sure as hell deserve to be there.  In fact, the prison system here in america is way too lenient.  I mean, we only have the biggest prison system in the world.  And hell, if the government makes a law, then goddamnit thats the law! No thinking beyond that!  I mean someone caught with a few grams of cocaine sure deserves to spend the next year at least in jail.  Cause he is endagering the entire population.  and hell, how the fuck we gonna stop another 911 attack unless we put this patriot act enforced?  hmmm, maybe we could attack other countries, bomb the shit out of them, and destroy their fucking cities.  I bet that won't piss them off.  I mean, shit, they sacrifice their own life to attack another, so I'm sure that we are gonna scare the shit out of them.  I mean, they wouldn't wanna die would they?  oh wait, they are willing to sacrifice their own lives.

this forum is too goddamn hilarious.  90% of you fucks ain't even lived.  You live in your lil precious fuckin house, in your lil precious community.  You haven't experienced shit in your fuckin lives.  Most you still under mommy and daddy's care and dollar.  Pretty much none of ya even have a fuckin clue what jail is like.  pretty much none of ya even think.  I mean there is stupid fucks like AG on here that try to debate stuff.  Its too fuckin hilarious.  God, I can't wait til the day when I actually get my fuckin life together enuff so that I don't come to this forum everyday and read this stupid ass bullshit.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Thirteen on August 14, 2004, 10:37:33 PM
second off:  I read someone asking why 7even has so much concern about America, a country in which he doesn't live, and doesn't affect him.  Well this response is to that fuckin idiot that asked the question:  Here in the American education system we are never really taught about other countries.  On the news we really don't see what goes on in the rest of the world, unless it involves America, or violence.  But since countries and people do exist outside America, it probably would be a good thing to learn about them and culture yourself.  I'll be the first to admit, I don't know jack shit about other countries.  I was never taught anything about them in school.  I was never encouraged to learn about the rest of the world through the education system I went thru.  Whoever asked this fuckin moronic question, should thank 7even for not being a close minded jackass like yourself, and is happy to learn about the rest of the world.

you're right, i did ask him why he's so concerned about america. it's not my fault you're a piece of trash adult with a fucked up life that has to blame the education system because you don't know shit about another country and you're too poor to visit it yourself. i've been to more countries than you've probably been to states so i have a right to ask that question...

let's take for instance the place called Singapore...i thought the laws there were a little weird....no gum sold in stores because you can't chew it outside...the heavy fines for doing such things as spitting and cussing....yes i learned those laws, and even while they affected me during my stay there, because i had to live by them...not once did i ever question that government....you know why? cause i know, no matter what i say or complain about, it's not going to do shit because i'm a tourist...

Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: hector on August 14, 2004, 10:56:06 PM
good for you mammas boy.  don't you have a spelling bee to study for?  I'd spend time to actually consider your post if I thought you were intelligent, but instead  I'd rather reply to posts cutting down on AG.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: Thirteen on August 14, 2004, 10:57:33 PM
good for you mammas boy.  don't you have a spelling bee to study for?  I'd spend time to actually consider your post if I thought you were intelligent, but instead  I'd rather reply to posts cutting down on AG.

i'm sorry i must have pissed you off you poor piece of trash...yeah go make fun of a 14 year old, it's more your speed you sorry sack of shit
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: hector on August 14, 2004, 11:16:22 PM
your right, a 14 year old is my speed.  unfortunately your at a 6 year old level.  get at me when your about 59.  thats when you hopefully will be the equivilent of an american 14 year old.  hey, and you might have even hit puberty by then.
Title: Re: How can anyone accept the US Patriot Act?
Post by: white Boy on August 16, 2004, 01:51:02 PM
wow, we are all really mature..... ag is 15 btw