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Title: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 17, 2004, 06:34:28 AM
Firstly and most importantly we beat the french numerous times

We maintained international naval supremacy up until more recent times which was the key too our empire.

We braught civilization free trade and liassez faire economics to to much of the world

With 900 civil servants and and army of 70,000 we were able to control 250 million people in India (which was much larger than it is today including countries like pakistan etc) name any country who can do way with beurocracy like that in modern times. we also control 1/5 of the world at our peak i mite add.

We industrialised the world bringing trains to india etc.

We made ourselves the world police to stamp out the evil slave trade using our naval might.

We shrank the world by installing telegraph lines across the worlds oceans and utilising steam ships shrinking traveling times and being able to deliver messages in hours where previously it took months.

we can still rub it spains face that we own jabrulta and they'll never get it back

we even made the first television! a mechanical one tho.

We even gracefully gave up the majority of our empire after ww2 while other thaught to keep/enlarge theirs.

What truely sets our empire above everyone elses is the industrialisation we baught to the world and the promotion of trade.

This is all off the top of my head please feel free to add i may come up with some more. Also list other countries and your reasons why you think they are great and we can discuss which is the greatest
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Trauma-san on August 17, 2004, 07:08:54 AM
And here I thought you were gonna talk about the Beatles.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Montana00 on August 17, 2004, 07:11:25 AM
Firstly and most importantly we beat the french numerous times

This is a joke thread right?
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Trauma-san on August 17, 2004, 07:13:04 AM
No, because we all know, what makes a country a supreme war power is beating the FRENCH.  They're the standard by which all military victories are measured, lol. 
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Seer on August 17, 2004, 07:46:13 AM
its true...

the french nearly always give up unless they're so much bigger its no contest..

they'd much rather interfere


william did beat us at 1066 though...



ps...


we also gave the world the beatles  :D
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: mauzip on August 17, 2004, 08:29:24 AM
We invented the compact disc 8)
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Montana00 on August 17, 2004, 05:14:01 PM
whats your point
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: davida.b. on August 17, 2004, 05:44:08 PM
whats your point

I think he's trying to say US sucks. Lets cut him.

j/k
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on August 17, 2004, 06:14:02 PM
The only reason you Brits ran India was cuz they;re all pussies.

Having said that, Tech salutes the British crowns gangsta.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on August 17, 2004, 06:15:26 PM
does any1 know how many brits survived in the first afghan-anglo war, and actually made it to safety?

ONE

however there were some prisoners who were rescued the year after... but the number of soldiers trying to escape afghanistan was in the thousands with only 1 making it  8)



Yes sir. My great uncle has one of those 1900 Lee Enger rifles the British used, around the Boer War times. Us Afghans and the Brits respected each other. We had some good gentlemenly wars.

"Those honourable savages..."

Churchill talkin about us...lol
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: mauzip on August 17, 2004, 11:12:58 PM
We have 2 fucking legendary soccer players: Cruijff and Van Basten. How many does Britain have? Huh? Huh? Huh? :P
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 18, 2004, 12:15:04 AM
The significance of beating france is they were our closest neighbour and we had been enemies for a long time its only in the last 100 years or so we have supposively been friends. our biggest mistake was giving them back their caribean islands after innihilated them in the 7 year war as this was a huge source of income for them and enabled them to rebuild their forces after we bankrupted them. fortunatly for us we had the dutch system of the government being able to borrow money by selling government debt (still used today) which let us finance war while the french governement resorted to begging and stealing but still couldn't afford it. later on it was their steam ships which made us build hms warrior the ultimate ship of its time. basically france has always been jelous of us.

You know the first cold war was between russia and briton and it was over who could map afganistan the fastest as the those who had the knowledge of the terrain would innevitably be the victor.

One of the huge benefits for us controling india is we used indians to fight our wars, british indian troops in india out numbered british troops 3 to 1 and they could be mobilised to the far east and africa where it would takes us much longer to send troops from briton which was another key element to holding our empire together.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: eS El Duque on August 18, 2004, 12:34:38 AM
Firstly and most importantly we beat the french numerous times

We maintained international naval supremacy up until more recent times which was the key too our empire.

We braught civilization free trade and liassez faire economics to to much of the world

With 900 civil servants and and army of 70,000 we were able to control 250 million people in India (which was much larger than it is today including countries like pakistan etc) name any country who can do way with beurocracy like that in modern times. we also control 1/5 of the world at our peak i mite add.

We industrialised the world bringing trains to india etc.

We made ourselves the world police to stamp out the evil slave trade using our naval might.

We shrank the world by installing telegraph lines across the worlds oceans and utilising steam ships shrinking traveling times and being able to deliver messages in hours where previously it took months.

we can still rub it spains face that we own jabrulta and they'll never get it back

we even made the first television! a mechanical one tho.

We even gracefully gave up the majority of our empire after ww2 while other thaught to keep/enlarge theirs.

What truely sets our empire above everyone elses is the industrialisation we baught to the world and the promotion of trade.

This is all off the top of my head please feel free to add i may come up with some more. Also list other countries and your reasons why you think they are great and we can discuss which is the greatest

Now I remember why I loved being britian while i played Civilization games


YOu guys saved Canada from the FRENCH!!! so for that, I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Seer on August 18, 2004, 01:35:43 AM

and if it weren't for the french we'd have possibly not lost the american revolution.. the french bankrolled it.

yeah later on it may have happened anyways.. but under better circumstances..


funny now how the US and UK are still tight, whereas even the US now see's the french for the bitches they are
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 18, 2004, 04:48:57 AM
it wouldn't of happenned if we did what we later did in australia and had local representation which is what we had refused the american settlers thus starting the revolution.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Jay ay Beee on August 18, 2004, 06:01:08 AM
We have 2 fucking legendary soccer players: Cruijff and Van Basten. How many does Britain have? Huh? Huh? Huh? :P

Bobby Charlton, Stanley Matthews, George Best, Bobby Moore, Denis Law, John Charles, Ryan Giggs.  Huh huh.

How many world cups you won? Huh huh?
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: mauzip on August 18, 2004, 06:24:44 AM
none of them come close to van basten and cruijff 8) ;D
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Montana00 on August 18, 2004, 06:47:28 AM
whats your point

shut the fuck up retard
dont get your panties up in a bunch
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Montana00 on August 18, 2004, 04:55:20 PM
Don't get your panties up in a bunch
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Jacob on August 18, 2004, 10:44:13 PM




ps...


we also gave the world the beatles  :D


Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden were nice gifts too
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: eS El Duque on August 19, 2004, 12:02:23 AM
Spice girls  :-*
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Seer on August 19, 2004, 06:00:19 AM
lol


Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Trauma-san on August 19, 2004, 06:12:45 AM

and if it weren't for the french we'd have possibly not lost the american revolution.. the french bankrolled it.

yeah later on it may have happened anyways.. but under better circumstances..


funny now how the US and UK are still tight, whereas even the US now see's the french for the bitches they are

That's because a bitch is a bitch, lol.  They could only hide it from us for oh, 200 years or so, eventually we noticed. 
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 19, 2004, 06:07:56 PM
The sun never sets on the British Empire... lol.

I respect the British, but still have resentment, for the British Empire killed thousands of Native Americans. It's a double edge sword being the world power, ask the United States now.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Real American on August 19, 2004, 06:14:10 PM
Britain is one of the few foreign countries that I really admire.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Trauma-san on August 19, 2004, 09:34:58 PM
Yeah, my short list includes places like England (because they're so gangsta), Australia (because I'm personally partial to Kiwis), Mexico (because I like Mexicans)... Italy, various other mediterranian countries, etc.  basically because they look like beautiful countries.  My political ambitions don't stroll very far. 
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 20, 2004, 12:23:57 AM
The sun never sets on the British Empire... lol.

I respect the British, but still have resentment, for the British Empire killed thousands of Native Americans. It's a double edge sword being the world power, ask the United States now.
Well before the revolution we had most of america set aside for the natives but when british rule left the settlers didn't give a shit. just like in australia where we said they natives shouldn't be targeted but the settlers ignored that law but america was closer and more easy to enforce law, i think there would be much more natives americans if british rule would have stayed.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: tommyilromano on August 20, 2004, 02:17:14 AM
What about when the French fought all of Europe and nearly won...?





its true...

the french nearly always give up unless they're so much bigger its no contest..

they'd much rather interfere


william did beat us at 1066 though...



ps...


we also gave the world the beatles  :D

Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: tommyilromano on August 20, 2004, 02:20:49 AM
none of them come close to van basten and cruijff 8) ;D

Niether one of your countries has anything on Italia futbol!  ;D
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Billy Bollocks on August 20, 2004, 03:00:30 AM
none of them come close to van basten and cruijff 8) ;D

Niether one of your countries has anything on Italia futbol!  ;D

Yeah, when it comes to spitting and rolling about on the floor like a complete fanny you wops win hands down everytime.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: tommyilromano on August 20, 2004, 03:28:32 AM
The British Empire was OK... It doesnt match up well to some of the other great powers throughout history though.



Firstly and most importantly we beat the french numerous times

We maintained international naval supremacy up until more recent times which was the key too our empire.

We braught civilization free trade and liassez faire economics to to much of the world

With 900 civil servants and and army of 70,000 we were able to control 250 million people in India (which was much larger than it is today including countries like pakistan etc) name any country who can do way with beurocracy like that in modern times. we also control 1/5 of the world at our peak i mite add.

We industrialised the world bringing trains to india etc.

We made ourselves the world police to stamp out the evil slave trade using our naval might.

We shrank the world by installing telegraph lines across the worlds oceans and utilising steam ships shrinking traveling times and being able to deliver messages in hours where previously it took months.

we can still rub it spains face that we own jabrulta and they'll never get it back

we even made the first television! a mechanical one tho.

We even gracefully gave up the majority of our empire after ww2 while other thaught to keep/enlarge theirs.

What truely sets our empire above everyone elses is the industrialisation we baught to the world and the promotion of trade.

This is all off the top of my head please feel free to add i may come up with some more. Also list other countries and your reasons why you think they are great and we can discuss which is the greatest
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 20, 2004, 05:25:47 AM
The British Empire was OK... It doesnt match up well to some of the other great powers throughout history though.



Firstly and most importantly we beat the french numerous times

We maintained international naval supremacy up until more recent times which was the key too our empire.

We braught civilization free trade and liassez faire economics to to much of the world

With 900 civil servants and and army of 70,000 we were able to control 250 million people in India (which was much larger than it is today including countries like pakistan etc) name any country who can do way with beurocracy like that in modern times. we also control 1/5 of the world at our peak i mite add.

We industrialised the world bringing trains to india etc.

We made ourselves the world police to stamp out the evil slave trade using our naval might.

We shrank the world by installing telegraph lines across the worlds oceans and utilising steam ships shrinking traveling times and being able to deliver messages in hours where previously it took months.

we can still rub it spains face that we own jabrulta and they'll never get it back

we even made the first television! a mechanical one tho.

We even gracefully gave up the majority of our empire after ww2 while other thaught to keep/enlarge theirs.

What truely sets our empire above everyone elses is the industrialisation we baught to the world and the promotion of trade.

This is all off the top of my head please feel free to add i may come up with some more. Also list other countries and your reasons why you think they are great and we can discuss which is the greatest

care to elaborate? name one empire which was bigger? little hint the british empire was the biggest EVER and we modernised the world.

Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: tommyilromano on August 20, 2004, 07:50:27 AM
It was big yes but it was held together by a navy and they had little influence on the actuale populations. Rome is easily the greatest Empire to ever exist as it is the birth of Western civilization. Brittania got its name from Rome. Its influence extends to this day. England wasnt a super power for all that long. Spain had an empire just as good and France at it hieght was just as strong.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 20, 2004, 08:31:09 AM
that is what set ours above all the others in my opinion our empire was built on trade where as the french empire was more for power, but with trade you gain money and through money you gain power, going back to the india example we started off trading with them and that india company eventually took control of india and then when their were disputes over how things should run in india the crown took power. another thing look at the remains of the spanish empire today you got south america which is poor, similar story with the french. and look at where we went you have america canada australia new zeeland etc.

the roman example was much better as really did transform each country but it wasn't as far reaching
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Seer on August 20, 2004, 10:38:59 AM
It was big yes but it was held together by a navy and they had little influence on the actuale populations. Rome is easily the greatest Empire to ever exist as it is the birth of Western civilization. Brittania got its name from Rome. Its influence extends to this day. England wasnt a super power for all that long. Spain had an empire just as good and France at it hieght was just as strong.

rome didn't manage conquer all of england  :D

Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: tommyilromano on August 20, 2004, 09:10:06 PM
Yeah they were just different types of Empires. I dunno, I like the idea that where ever Rome went they transformed the people into Romans that to me is the what power is all about.


that is what set ours above all the others in my opinion our empire was built on trade where as the french empire was more for power, but with trade you gain money and through money you gain power, going back to the india example we started off trading with them and that india company eventually took control of india and then when their were disputes over how things should run in india the crown took power. another thing look at the remains of the spanish empire today you got south america which is poor, similar story with the french. and look at where we went you have america canada australia new zeeland etc.

the roman example was much better as really did transform each country but it wasn't as far reaching
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: tommyilromano on August 20, 2004, 09:30:47 PM
Actually they did conquer all of England they didnt manage to conquer what is now Scotland but the will also simply wasn't the will for Brittania's complete conquest in the way France and Spain were completely conquered. Regardless Rome is by far, in my opinion of course, the greatest Empire to ever exist.

(http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~sctwiseh/Roman/RE0116x.gif)



It was big yes but it was held together by a navy and they had little influence on the actuale populations. Rome is easily the greatest Empire to ever exist as it is the birth of Western civilization. Brittania got its name from Rome. Its influence extends to this day. England wasnt a super power for all that long. Spain had an empire just as good and France at it hieght was just as strong.

rome didn't manage conquer all of england  :D
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Don Jacob on August 22, 2004, 12:41:15 AM
yeah rome is easily the greatest empire, i don't know how the flying hell you british dudes can even try to contest that,lmao. I mean you read anything in history during that time....at least part of it refers to the roman empire or was influenced by it. in one way or another.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Entreri117 on August 25, 2004, 10:22:58 AM
You Britons also gave Sting, IMO one of the greatest musicians alive...if you're into that kind of music.

(http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/a_and_m/sting/0500_sting_c.jpg)
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Lincoln on August 25, 2004, 10:45:39 AM
You Britons also gave Sting, IMO one of the greatest musicians alive...if you're into that kind of music.

(http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/a_and_m/sting/0500_sting_c.jpg)

Yeah Sting is good. Britain also gave us David Bowie and Peter Frampton.
Title: Re: What made Briton great
Post by: Nutty on September 04, 2004, 06:13:15 AM
Most of the bs thas happening around the world is a result of countries tryna take over others, dun 4get that. America.........England........Spain.........Portugal........France..........Germany........blah, blah.......rah, rah.

Thank you for the BS.

Goooooooo the Kiwis, :>.