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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Slug on September 12, 2004, 09:12:52 PM
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Need Real Player To Watch
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http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=DB77B327F844FCC0ADAE6A87891CC04E
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Link didn't work for me
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do u kno tha exact lyrics n what tha songs called??
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na its not a song Yuk and Domo are just in the studio popping shit bout Game
if any one know any other sites besides yousend it where u can uplad rm vids let me know & ill re up it
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fuckin leeches
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try this copy n paste n the url bar should work
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=53F28673EB50E895DB9E5382529B2BD7
xtra links
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=84637E9BBCB6C13DEC397B6479238D3A
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=FB35599A83B08ECFB3631BAE36E40666
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=E2CD46DB039E5DD2B7879CC929C157E5
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=51EAE3EC1C0F5DB7DBCE1D2D4AF39FBF
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=9C3BB3D401965111D50AA928A39A0C5C
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damm....looks like it's gone get a lil deep....
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I feel this video.
Puts that fool in his place.
Yukmouth > the game
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can someone explain what yuk's problem is?
he always seems to speak up -just- when someone is about to drop a project..
attention whore?
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^because Yuk is way better than Game. but i aint gone say nothin cuz dissin G-Unit members seems to be a no-no around here.
ps: you heard Yuk say he spoke with Game, so it aint like he just dissin somebody he dont know
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mannnnn.. yuk betta take his damp curious george face ass on somewhere with that garbage.. west coast will never reunite or whatever when dunces like this henry the monkey from project x is out dissin fellow west coast affiliates..shit instead of dissin he needs to jus gone n say what neil carter useta sing all the time.. "Gimmie a Break"... kuz thats all he is doin..beggin 4 attention to blow up.. game aint the 1 he should be dissin..he should be dissin b.e.t for callin him a 1hit wonder... game aint never said shit about that man...
aj< yukmouth
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Can somebody tell me how this so-called "beef" actually started?
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attention whore?
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what does he say???
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Like Baby G said......
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can someone explain what yuk's problem is?
he always seems to speak up -just- when someone is about to drop a project..
attention whore?
First of all, Yuk is one of my favourite West Coast rappers and has been for a while now. That said, I have to agree with what 'Seer said. When Yuk started dissing 50 I assumed that he had a real reason to do so and there was problems between the two. I certainly lost some respect for him when WCRydaz asked him why the beef had started and Yuk himself appeared unsure as to why he was dissing. I'm sure he gave a reason, but it was so irrelevant that it has passed me by and I can't remember it off the top of my head. Unfortunately, I then came to this decision as to why Yuk dissed G-Unit:
1) It was the ''in'' thing to do at the time...
2) He had an album to promote (Thug Lordz - ''In Thugz We Trust'')
Generally, I'm guessing that he is beefing with The Game for the exact same reasons, since many people have been getting at Game recently and ''United Ghettos of America 2'' has recently been made available. Was it a mere coincedence that Domination mentioned the ''United Ghettos...'' title in the same video that they are dissing Game, currently one of rap's hottest prospects? It is extremely disappointing to see a talented rapper like Yuk reduce himself to such seemingly pointless feuds, and apparently all in a poor way to build promotion...
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actually I would say Yuk has reason to. didnt 50 get on 106 & Park and say list Murder Inc Rap-A-Lot and Death Row as labels that were started with drug money? 50 had no reason to go speakin on them cats. Yuk is a Rap-A-Lot artist so of couse he's gone reply
now C-Bo...he just dissin for the hell of it.
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somebody plzz tell me why everybody get all ANGRY & CATCH PMS when somebody diss G-String Unit......butttttttt when G-String Unit diss somebody its coo.....yall gotta get that man dick & his niggas dick outta yall mouth & asshole
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who in the game they dissed apart from ja rule? (who we all hated for being a pac biter anyways)
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actually I would say Yuk has reason to. didnt 50 get on 106 & Park and say list Murder Inc Rap-A-Lot and Death Row as labels that were started with drug money? 50 had no reason to go speakin on them cats. Yuk is a Rap-A-Lot artist so of couse he's gone reply
now C-Bo...he just dissin for the hell of it.
its a whole lot of south artist that has spokin out on lil j, in magazine's , music channels or whatever... long as he been in the game ..the fed's still cant touch him...50 is jus a grain of sand on a beach ..hell its geto boy albums with larry hoover on there talkin about lil j...hell scarface said whats up wit lil j in front of thousands of people at 1 of them source awards...and lil j had a big ass smirk on his face and this when lil j and face fell out..they been after him since 85.. if the feds cant prove it...how the hell can a nigga name boo boo prove it?
so really yuk cant speak on shit, devin,willie d, tela,,bushwick,scarface aint never said shit so why should he..and they in texas next to prince....hell bushwick and face was there in the verrrrrrrrrrry beginnin...
yuk and c-bo are both jus dissin 4 the hell of it...i put money.. they cant give a REAL REASON, im talkin about sumthin that affected they asses..i guarantee they cant
i listen to all these niggas...especially c-bo kuz he is on 1/2 of the screw tapes i got..kuz he was dj screw's favorite rapper, and he has atleast 1 song on each screw tape damn near...so he is in my ear 25-8... i jus dont get these 2 niggas..
yuk went from that skeeeeeeeeeeeeeskirt i got 5 on it breezy nigga to we ran short out of oakland to im sorry shortdogg would u be on our next album :-* to im the real ice cream man to captain save a pac to lil j's puppet
bo went from a boss hogg to i'll rap some bars in court to major payne to this monkey see monkey do ass nigga we see now...
"niggas and flies niggas and flies niggas and motherfuckin flies...niggas and flies always in some shit niggas cant stay out of shit for shit"- willie dennis
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somebody plzz tell me why everybody get all ANGRY & CATCH PMS when somebody diss G-String Unit......butttttttt when G-String Unit diss somebody its coo.....yall gotta get that man dick & his niggas dick outta yall mouth & asshole
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look at Game. he diss Memphis Bleek out the blue and no one trippin. but Domination diss Game and everybody screamin he lookin for attention.
50 diss Shyne & Lil Kim for no reason - no problem. Yuk & C-Bo diss 50 - they instant haters.
this G-Unit bandwagon is sickning. worst part is some of yall dont even realize how hard yall ridin 50's dick.
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who in the game they dissed apart from ja rule? (who we all hated for being a pac biter anyways)
Lil Kim
Joe Budden
Shyne
Mr. Cheeks
R.Kelly
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shyne got dissed in a song that was basically to do with murder inc trying to pick shyne up..
and shyne replies over a year later.. just when his albums coming out.. yah right.. that wasnt for publicity.. lol...
i dunno about the others...
i think people are too quick to diss and jump on bandwagons.. i dont give a fuck who hates who.. i profit coz i bump both sides.. people spit better when they have something to prove.. so its all good for us on this side of the fence!
if someone makes good music then bump it.. dont stick up for someone just coz u like their songs..
i dont give a fuck about any artist anymore.. they're all attention whores..
pretty much the story goes.. once you break you become fake.. thats how it is..
but who are we to judge?
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who in the game they dissed apart from ja rule? (who we all hated for being a pac biter anyways)
Lil Kim
Joe Budden
Shyne
Mr. Cheeks
R.Kelly
lil kim whined about 50 when he didn't appear for a live collaboration with her or something which is why 50 responded with that track on the mixtape, I dunno who started the shit with budden but I don't think 50 dissed budden for attention lol.. dunno bout cheeks but r kelly was just some lyrical shit, not dissing as in having beef, just using him for a line.. anyway we all know 50 would diss for attention since he did how to rob.. but that doesn't take away the fact that yuk is dissing for attention too (and cause his boss is tellin him to of course), your the one who's either stuck in hate for g unit or can't get yuk's dick out of his mouth.. it's fuckin obvious that he doesn't have a real reason, that shit about the drug money is pathetic for the reason the dude who writes all his shit in yellow already mentioned (funny how you didn't respond to his post when you did to others)
I have no problem admitting that 50 does diss poeple for attention, you do when it comes to yuk so.. who's the dickryder here.. ?
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back in the day cats would diss a muthaphukka just because they felt that muthaphukkaz style was wack, or the video was wack, or because that muthaphukka wasn't representing right. some of the most classic tracks in hip-hop were diss tracks written just because a muthaphukka felt that some cat that was on top with some fame that they didn't deserve. "your style is a gimmick, your shit is wack".
what happened was you had wack muthaphukkaz like master p and sean puffy combs that couldn't diss, and knew they had no skills and they successfully flipped the game on it's side. they started this whole "playa hata" movement, where it became taboo to speak against anyone that was successful. these cats literally created a culture of dick-riding where it is impossible to question a muthaphukka over anything. garbage hip hop media outlets like mtv and bet were quick to embrace this attitude in the wake of the murder of tupac shakur (which was a street thing and only tangentially a hip hop thing) and now this is where we are at.
these cats are claiming they street, in the streets if a muthaphukka rolls up and punches a cat in the mouth and snatches his chain, that's not playa hating. that's recognizing a busta when you see one.
any of these g-unit groupies that are crying over yuk smashing on 50 cent or game needs to take a listen to "how to rob an industry nigga" and realize they themselves are the hypocrites. 50 cent knows how the game works, he did the same thing. take a listen to "buddens"; game is playing by the same rules, he smashed on budden for disses at 50.
and as for yuk, most people think he jumped in the beef riding for cats like j-prince and some of his other people. there's nothing wrong with that.
if your gonna diss yuk for that, pull out your old chronic cd's and diss snoop and tha dogg pound for speaking on eazy and ice cube. smash on game for dissing budden.
these groupies are trying to redefine the rules to the game but 50, game, snoop, dpg and yuk and c-bo are all playing by the same rules. the same rules that have been in effect forever. it's not yuk that's in the wrong. it's not 50. it's not game. they are all playing by the same rules. it's these groupies that are getting their panties in a bunch because they've been taught that dick riding is better than clowning a cat wearing blonde hair and a tongue ring. the groupies are in the wrong.
"what's up nigga, real g's don't wear titty and tongue rings" - kam
it's not like yuk is bending over backwards to clown game. cats were laughing at muthaphukkaz with tongue rings years before they ever heard of a cat named game. and you know what's ironic? it's been speculated that kam was inspired to write that line while watching an episode of "change of heart". that's unconfirmed though.
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^^^DATS WHAT THA FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT !!!! GREAT POST CUZZIN.
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who in the game they dissed apart from ja rule? (who we all hated for being a pac biter anyways)
Lil Kim
Joe Budden
Shyne
Mr. Cheeks
R.Kelly
50 said he dissed Lil Kim cuz she was mad he wouldnt be in the "Magic Stick" video. But she never made it public. And he said "if R.Kelly wanna make records with Ja Rule then fuck him". Dude got a problem, he feelin himself to much and thats gone backfire in a minute. And wow thats gone be funny.
lil kim whined about 50 when he didn't appear for a live collaboration with her or something which is why 50 responded with that track on the mixtape, I dunno who started the shit with budden but I don't think 50 dissed budden for attention lol.. dunno bout cheeks but r kelly was just some lyrical shit, not dissing as in having beef, just using him for a line.. anyway we all know 50 would diss for attention since he did how to rob.. but that doesn't take away the fact that yuk is dissing for attention too (and cause his boss is tellin him to of course), your the one who's either stuck in hate for g unit or can't get yuk's dick out of his mouth.. it's fuckin obvious that he doesn't have a real reason, that shit about the drug money is pathetic for the reason the dude who writes all his shit in yellow already mentioned (funny how you didn't respond to his post when you did to others)
I have no problem admitting that 50 does diss poeple for attention, you do when it comes to yuk so.. who's the dickryder here.. ?
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I think Shyne had a little trouble releasing a statement, seeing as he's locked up Seer. ;)
But, Baby G is on point, Aftermath/Shady/G-Unit gets a double standard here. I mean, Yuk wasn't just hatin' on Game, he gave props. He told him hold down the West and get your money. He just let him know, don't hop in a beef that ain't yours. I look at it like this:
Eminem disses every Pop artist out for no other reason than them being Pop. But, that's not for publicity, he has a problem with them being Pop.
JD says he's better than Dre, Dre brings Eminem and Xzibit to diss him, but only a few people had a problem with it.
50 disses Ja Rule, when he(Ja) is at the top of the game, but it's not for publicity, it's real beef. Not to mention, 50 makes a record clowning the industry, but EVERYONE else is wrong for getting upset at a nobody speaking their name. LMAO!
Fredro Starr talks about 50, it's for publicity(even though they probably REALLY have beef), Domo and Bang Em speak out, it's for publicity(even though they truely have beef), Yuk speaks out on 50 for Lil J(like Em and X did for Dre), but Yuk is being a follower. Whereas Game speaks out on Budden, Domo and Bang Em for 50, but that's cuz he's riding for 50!
It goes on. The double standards here are hilarious. And what's funnier, I'll get a response saying "Remember, this board started from a Dr. Dre board," to me, that means "Remember, since we all came from a Dre board, we're gonna dickride him." HORRIBLE!
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Ya boy Nibs hit that shit right on tha head. Look at these recent threads about Game dissing C-BO. I swear like eight of ya'll popped up sayin shit like "fuck C-Bo" or "Game is whack anyway." His point has been proved hella times on this board.
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back in the day cats would diss a muthaphukka just because they felt that muthaphukkaz style was wack, or the video was wack, or because that muthaphukka wasn't representing right. some of the most classic tracks in hip-hop were diss tracks written just because a muthaphukka felt that some cat that was on top with some fame that they didn't deserve. "your style is a gimmick, your shit is wack".
what happened was you had wack muthaphukkaz like master p and sean puffy combs that couldn't diss, and knew they had no skills and they successfully flipped the game on it's side. they started this whole "playa hata" movement, where it became taboo to speak against anyone that was successful. these cats literally created a culture of dick-riding where it is impossible to question a muthaphukka over anything. garbage hip hop media outlets like mtv and bet were quick to embrace this attitude in the wake of the murder of tupac shakur (which was a street thing and only tangentially a hip hop thing) and now this is where we are at.
these cats are claiming they street, in the streets if a muthaphukka rolls up and punches a cat in the mouth and snatches his chain, that's not playa hating. that's recognizing a busta when you see one.
any of these g-unit groupies that are crying over yuk smashing on 50 cent or game needs to take a listen to "how to rob an industry nigga" and realize they themselves are the hypocrites. 50 cent knows how the game works, he did the same thing. take a listen to "buddens"; game is playing by the same rules, he smashed on budden for disses at 50.
and as for yuk, most people think he jumped in the beef riding for cats like j-prince and some of his other people. there's nothing wrong with that.
if your gonna diss yuk for that, pull out your old chronic cd's and diss snoop and tha dogg pound for speaking on eazy and ice cube. smash on game for dissing budden.
these groupies are trying to redefine the rules to the game but 50, game, snoop, dpg and yuk and c-bo are all playing by the same rules. the same rules that have been in effect forever. it's not yuk that's in the wrong. it's not 50. it's not game. they are all playing by the same rules. it's these groupies that are getting their panties in a bunch because they've been taught that dick riding is better than clowning a cat wearing blonde hair and a tongue ring. the groupies are in the wrong.
"what's up nigga, real g's don't wear titty and tongue rings" - kam
it's not like yuk is bending over backwards to clown game. cats were laughing at muthaphukkaz with tongue rings years before they ever heard of a cat named game. and you know what's ironic? it's been speculated that kam was inspired to write that line while watching an episode of "change of heart". that's unconfirmed though.
Game has a tongue ring? hahahahahaha
Evil child speaks the truth here.
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back in the day cats would diss a muthaphukka just because they felt that muthaphukkaz style was wack, or the video was wack, or because that muthaphukka wasn't representing right. some of the most classic tracks in hip-hop were diss tracks written just because a muthaphukka felt that some cat that was on top with some fame that they didn't deserve. "your style is a gimmick, your shit is wack".
what happened was you had wack muthaphukkaz like master p and sean puffy combs that couldn't diss, and knew they had no skills and they successfully flipped the game on it's side. they started this whole "playa hata" movement, where it became taboo to speak against anyone that was successful. these cats literally created a culture of dick-riding where it is impossible to question a muthaphukka over anything. garbage hip hop media outlets like mtv and bet were quick to embrace this attitude in the wake of the murder of tupac shakur (which was a street thing and only tangentially a hip hop thing) and now this is where we are at.
these cats are claiming they street, in the streets if a muthaphukka rolls up and punches a cat in the mouth and snatches his chain, that's not playa hating. that's recognizing a busta when you see one.
any of these g-unit groupies that are crying over yuk smashing on 50 cent or game needs to take a listen to "how to rob an industry nigga" and realize they themselves are the hypocrites. 50 cent knows how the game works, he did the same thing. take a listen to "buddens"; game is playing by the same rules, he smashed on budden for disses at 50.
and as for yuk, most people think he jumped in the beef riding for cats like j-prince and some of his other people. there's nothing wrong with that.
if your gonna diss yuk for that, pull out your old chronic cd's and diss snoop and tha dogg pound for speaking on eazy and ice cube. smash on game for dissing budden.
these groupies are trying to redefine the rules to the game but 50, game, snoop, dpg and yuk and c-bo are all playing by the same rules. the same rules that have been in effect forever. it's not yuk that's in the wrong. it's not 50. it's not game. they are all playing by the same rules. it's these groupies that are getting their panties in a bunch because they've been taught that dick riding is better than clowning a cat wearing blonde hair and a tongue ring. the groupies are in the wrong.
"what's up nigga, real g's don't wear titty and tongue rings" - kam
it's not like yuk is bending over backwards to clown game. cats were laughing at muthaphukkaz with tongue rings years before they ever heard of a cat named game. and you know what's ironic? it's been speculated that kam was inspired to write that line while watching an episode of "change of heart". that's unconfirmed though.
bullshit, I am one of those one say yuk is wrong about that and I'm saying the same about 50, he was wrong too so there goes ya argument..
if snoop was giving props to Eazy a minurte before but then turned around and dissed him for Dre then yeah he was wrong and a puppet too, who ever said he wasn't ? but I ain't heard about snoop doin that before he dissed so I ain't gon call him a puppet for it
X said he always disliked JD so he's not being hypocritical like yuk and not as much of a puppet who does totally change his mind cause his boss wants him to, still it was a publicity stunt too (he did it right before MVM was released).. I ain't got a problem admitting that as for Em, he didn't say much about JD (more about Canibus) bofre JD dissed him on his Dre diss.. still he's a puppet since he even said he wouldn't stop dissing JD before Dre tells him to.. I ain't got a problem admitting that either.. but Yuk and Bo just do it way worse than these cats, they make a shitload of disses and don't even just clown but threaten all the time like they all serious about it when they don't even know the guy they talkin to. they fuck with smurf and domination just cuase they got beef with g unit (they don't fuck with any other east cats [according to Bo himself] but they had smurf and domination flown over imediately when they heard of their beef)
there's a difference between making some comment in a track or even a whole verse and doing what Bo and Yuk do (= countless diss tracks, which is ridicilous considering they never knew 50 AND gave props to him right before they started dissing (on yuks part))
if bo / yuk once said something about 50 they don't feel I could give a fuck less, but that's not what they doing. All 3 of their most recent releases had several disses to 50, a man they never met, the west coast mafia was full of em and Thuglords and United ghettos of america had some too.. in their whole carrier they didn't make more diss tracks than they are doing now towards the man they never met
sgv, baby g and everybody else who's whining about so called dickryders are hypocritical clowns for being that themselves.. they will say 50 was wrong and an attention whore for how to rob but not say the same shit about bo and yuk.. your showing your own doublestandarts, not mine, I have no problem admitting the faults of artists i like
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you also gotta remember one thing... the JD beef was started by JD coz he dissed Dre and Timbaland.. ya'll forget timbaland was on the track too?
its easy to make it look one sided if you forget the facts..
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sgv, baby g and everybody else who's whining about so called dickryders are hypocritical clowns for being that themselves.. they will say 50 was wrong and an attention whore for how to rob but not say the same shit about bo and yuk.. your showing your own doublestandarts, not mine, I have no problem admitting the faults of artists i like
Hmmm....It's obvious that everyone disses for attention, otherwise they'd just take it to the streets. You're the idiot here. What cats like me and Baby G are pointing out is that if it's OK for 50 and them to make diss records without being attention whores, why ain't it the same for Yuk and others? That's a double standard. Everyone has a reason why it's OK for Em and X to diss JD. Everyone has a reason why it's Ok for 50 to diss Ja. But, when it's flipped? Oh, no! Everyone is throwing rocks at the throne. LMAO @ Xzibit's reason for dissing JD.
Seer, I pointed out that JD said he was better than Dre, but how is that reason for 2 of Dre's homies to jump in? I didn't see R.O.C. jumpin' in on JD's part.
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sgv, baby g and everybody else who's whining about so called dickryders are hypocritical clowns for being that themselves.. they will say 50 was wrong and an attention whore for how to rob but not say the same shit about bo and yuk.. your showing your own doublestandarts, not mine, I have no problem admitting the faults of artists i like
Hmmm....It's obvious that everyone disses for attention, otherwise they'd just take it to the streets. You're the idiot here. What cats like me and Baby G are pointing out is that if it's OK for 50 and them to make diss records without being attention whores, why ain't it the same for Yuk and others? That's a double standard. Everyone has a reason why it's OK for Em and X to diss JD. Everyone has a reason why it's Ok for 50 to diss Ja. But, when it's flipped? Oh, no! Everyone is throwing rocks at the throne. LMAO @ Xzibit's reason for dissing JD.
I never said X had a good reason but at least he didn't totally change his opinion just cause Dre told him too which is what Yuk did so right there is the thing that makes yuk more of a puppet than X but both are either attention whores or puppets. You should know by now that Ja dissed 50 first so of course he has a reason, what better reason can there be to diss somebody than that sombody dissing him first. There's really no point in bringin that up and you still doing it shows how extremely one sided your view on these things is. Your goal seems to be proving 50 / his fans wrong and not expressing an unbiased opinion. If you had information that would leave no doubt thuglordz being wrong and g unit being right about something in this matter you probably wouldn't share them and still act like thuglordz were right.
I know what you are trying to point out it's not like thats some complicated theory or something lol but you are simply wrong about it.. ain't nobody saying it's ok for 50, you are just assuming that. As you can see in this thread, even Yuk fans who don't care much about 50 say that yuk is making himself look bad here.
thuglordz are fucking obsessed with dissing 50, worse than I'd know it of anybody else EVER who didn't even know the guy he adressed
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You at least admit it. I don't have to prove anything, the proof is already there. To these kids, G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath NEVER diss as a publicity stunt. There's always a reason for it. But, at least you admit that they're equally as guilty as the rest of these cats.
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somebody plzz tell me why everybody get all ANGRY & CATCH PMS when somebody diss G-String Unit......butttttttt when G-String Unit diss somebody its coo.....yall gotta get that man dick & his niggas dick outta yall mouth & asshole
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look at Game. he diss Memphis Bleek out the blue and no one trippin. but Domination diss Game and everybody screamin he lookin for attention.
50 diss Shyne & Lil Kim for no reason - no problem. Yuk & C-Bo diss 50 - they instant haters.
this G-Unit bandwagon is sickning. worst part is some of yall dont even realize how hard yall ridin 50's dick.
didnt game diss bleek coz he was using the same record name as jt label, get low.
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somebody plzz tell me why everybody get all ANGRY & CATCH PMS when somebody diss G-String Unit......butttttttt when G-String Unit diss somebody its coo.....yall gotta get that man dick & his niggas dick outta yall mouth & asshole
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look at Game. he diss Memphis Bleek out the blue and no one trippin. but Domination diss Game and everybody screamin he lookin for attention.
50 diss Shyne & Lil Kim for no reason - no problem. Yuk & C-Bo diss 50 - they instant haters.
this G-Unit bandwagon is sickning. worst part is some of yall dont even realize how hard yall ridin 50's dick.
didnt game diss bleek coz he was using the same record name as jt label, get low.
yeah, but before he signed with G-Unit, he said "lets end this, no more beef with Memphis..." but now he blowin up and suddenly its beef again? hmm
50 pulled the same shiet. listen to "Be a Gentleman". "no more freestyles & verses killin Sticky & Ja, im movin on now - i got bigger fish to fry". but when he signed with Shady/Aftermath the beef was back on. hmmm
Memphis didnt start dissing Game cuz he blew up, Rule didnt start dissin 50 cuz he blew up. G-Unit cats start beef for attention or cuz they think they can walk over other artist.
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bullshit, I am one of those one say yuk is wrong about that and I'm saying the same about 50, he was wrong too so there goes ya argument..
actually, you are strengthening my argument. what you are basically saying is "l2db is right; yuk, game, and 50 are wrong.the rules are wrong. everyone is wrong except l2db!"
lol! you sound like those homeless cats on the street that are preaching about how everyone is going to hell, the world is doomed, and only they know the truth.
anytime you're in a situation where it appears that the rest of the world is wrong and you are right; that should be a clue to you to reevaluate your position. even in the rare cases where you are right and everyone else is wrong, you are still out of touch with everyone else.
if snoop was giving props to Eazy a minurte before but then turned around and dissed him for Dre then yeah he was wrong and a puppet too
??? you don't know the history there? snoop hit the scene, and the third song people heard from him was him dissing eazy. this was before eazy had ever spoken snoop's name or dissed dre directly. people knew dre had left eazy and ruthless, but there wasn't even public beef until snoop set it on e on the chronic intro and on dre day. and let's not forget the subtle shots snoop took at ren on the chronic intro, and the shots kurupt took at the lench mob on puffin' on blunts & drankin' tanqueray. snoop and dre also took shots at ice cube on dre day and let me ride, a fact which most choose to ignore. snoop, dre and the dpg literally set off their whole careers based around talking shit and dissing. dre conveniently abandoned dissing when he didn't want to deal with the tupac/death row onslaught.
but I ain't heard about snoop doin that before he dissed so I ain't gon call him a puppet for it
i'm not calling him a puppet. you're the only one calling people puppets. snoop and the dpg took up for dre because dre put them on, dre was their boy and dre couldn't handle the beef on his own. dre is not a lyricist.
just look at the lyrics:
you tried to check my homie, you best check yourself
cuz when you diss dre, you diss yourself, muthaphukka - snoop on "dre day"
that was a shot at ice cube on dre day. snoop never attempted to act like the beef was personal between himself and cube, he made it clear that he was taking up for his boy dre.
this is how it happens, this is how it's always been done. people take up for their friends. you are trying to change the rules acting like people can't take up for their friends.
they fuck with smurf and domination just cuase they got beef with g unit (they don't fuck with any other east cats [according to Bo himself] but they had smurf and domination flown over imediately when they heard of their beef)
check your facts. c-bo may not fuck with cats from the east but yuk always has. diesel don, one of the regime members is an east coast cat that's down with redman. yuk and the luniz did a track with redman. yuk has always been respectful of b. smalls and mentions how the luniz toured with bad boy and mary j blige in one of his verses.
All 3 of their most recent releases had several disses to 50, a man they never met, the west coast mafia was full of em and Thuglords and United ghettos of america had some too.. in their whole carrier they didn't make more diss tracks than they are doing now towards the man they never met
lol!!! yuk has never dissed one person more than he's currently doing now against 50? you've never heard any yukmouth albums, have you? you don't know about the long standing beef with master p, the on again off again beef with too short, the shots yuk has taken at pastor troy, pac biters in general, the scarface beef...etc? ??? don't speak on yuk like you know yuk when you clearly don't listen to yuk.
I have no problem admitting the faults of artists i like
taking up for your friends is not a fault. it's called loyalty. this is how the game works. standing up for your friends (even when they are wrong) is much deeper than that. that is how life works. this is nothing new, this is nothing special.
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is this link still up ?
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actually, you are strengthening my argument. what you are basically saying is "l2db is right; yuk, game, and 50 are wrong.the rules are wrong. everyone is wrong except l2db!"
lol @strengthening your argument when it was that 50 fans are being hypocritial and I just said that is not the case for me.. maybe you should read your own post again, I even marked it bold for now now is it that hard ?
last try:
any of these g-unit groupies that are crying over yuk smashing on 50 cent or game needs to take a listen to "how to rob an industry nigga" and realize they themselves are the hypocrites.
I'm proving your argument wong, not strengthening it, see that now ?
lol! you sound like those homeless cats on the street that are preaching about how everyone is going to hell, the world is doomed, and only they know the truth.
lmao @ you talkin irrelevant bullshit about homelss poeple.. of course I think I am right, that's why I'm making my point clear here, read other posts and you will realize nobody acts like his opinion is just an opinion, everbody speaks of it as thruth, including your damn self so please stop fooling yourself
anytime you're in a situation where it appears that the rest of the world is wrong and you are right; that should be a clue to you to reevaluate your position. even in the rare cases where you are right and everyone else is wrong, you are still out of touch with everyone else.
uhm maybe you didn't realize it yet but most people in this thread have the same opinion as I do so what are you talkin about me vs the rest of the world ?
??? you don't know the history there? snoop hit the scene, and the third song people heard from him was him dissing eazy. this was before eazy had ever spoken snoop's name or dissed dre directly. people knew dre had left eazy and ruthless, but there wasn't even public beef until snoop set it on e on the chronic intro and on dre day. and let's not forget the subtle shots snoop took at ren on the chronic intro, and the shots kurupt took at the lench mob on puffin' on blunts & drankin' tanqueray. snoop and dre also took shots at ice cube on dre day and let me ride, a fact which most choose to ignore. snoop, dre and the dpg literally set off their whole careers based around talking shit and dissing. dre conveniently abandoned dissing when he didn't want to deal with the tupac/death row onslaught.
maybe you just don't get to talk to people too much and have to live it out here but lemme tell you if you seriously think you just dropped mad knowledge I feel for you.. everybody knows snoop was a non name, why the hell would you bring that irrelevant shit up ? what I said is that I can't call snoop a puppet for dissing eazy cause Dre didn't make him change his opinion on eazy like J prince did yuk on 50.. Snoop didn't give eazy props before he started dissing him, he didn't say shit about him (if he did we wouldn't know cuase nobody knew him back then [as you just "taught" me lmao])
i'm not calling him a puppet. you're the only one calling people puppets. snoop and the dpg took up for dre because dre put them on, dre was their boy and dre couldn't handle the beef on his own. dre is not a lyricist.
just look at the lyrics:
you tried to check my homie, you best check yourself
cuz when you diss dre, you diss yourself, muthaphukka - snoop on "dre day"
read what I just said about that ^^
this is how it happens, this is how it's always been done. people take up for their friends. you are trying to change the rules acting like people can't take up for their friends.
if 50 and his boys kept talkin shit about j prince on wax than there would be a reason for a homey to get involved but that's not the case + you are again "forgetting" about the fact that Yuk gave props to 50 right before he started dissing so it's obvious j prince can make him diss people he liked before, that's what makes yuk a puppet + there's no reason to make such a number of disses as bo and yuk did just cause 50 has a problem with yuk's boss
check your facts. c-bo may not fuck with cats from the east but yuk always has. diesel don, one of the regime members is an east coast cat that's down with redman. yuk and the luniz did a track with redman. yuk has always been respectful of b. smalls and mentions how the luniz toured with bad boy and mary j blige in one of his verses.
I was talkin about cbo no need to tell me to check my facts I know em. If you are implying that them fucking with smurf and domination is not only based on their beef with 50 you better check yours cuase yuk even said that in a pretty recent interview
lol!!! yuk has never dissed one person more than he's currently doing now against 50? you've never heard any yukmouth albums, have you? you don't know about the long standing beef with master p, the on again off again beef with too short, the shots yuk has taken at pastor troy, pac biters in general, the scarface beef...etc? ??? don't speak on yuk like you know yuk when you clearly don't listen to yuk.
dropping knowledge again huh ? LMAO
I got yuk's albums and know about his beefs but I was talkin about thuglordz disses combined and with the shiload of disses on the mixtapes n shit they have more 50 disses than any disses to any other artist, obviously you are not familiar with bo#s shit yourself otherwise you'd know this
taking up for your friends is not a fault. it's called loyalty. this is how the game works. standing up for your friends (even when they are wrong) is much deeper than that. that is how life works. this is nothing new, this is nothing special.
dissing people you liked, people who's music you bumped all the time (that's what yuk did with GRODT) a minute after you did that just cause his boss tells him to is a fault. it's not like j prince was up against a superiour or outnumbering enemy who wouldn't stop dissing him."if the boss wants you dead than it's off with your head"he should've added "even if I liked your ass, if I get an order I won't question, just do it fast" .. puppet please
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L2DB:
lol @strengthening your argument when it was that 50 fans are being hypocritial and I just said that is not the case for me.. maybe you should read your own post again, I even marked it bold for now now is it that hard ?
here. let me highlight the portion of my original argument that applies to you:
these groupies are trying to redefine the rules to the game but 50, game, snoop, dpg and yuk and c-bo are all playing by the same rules. the same rules that have been in effect forever. it's not yuk that's in the wrong. it's not 50. it's not game. they are all playing by the same rules. it's these groupies that are getting their panties in a bunch because they've been taught that dick riding is better than clowning a cat wearing blonde hair and a tongue ring. the groupies are in the wrong.
you are trying to redefine the rules of the game. whether you criticize one side as a groupie of the other, or both sides. either way, you're on the outside trying to redefine what's appropriate and acceptable. that is the part that directly speaks to you.
I'm proving your argument wong, not strengthening it, see that now ?
only in your own mind. do you deny that you are trying to redefine well established practices and customs within the hip hop community? do you deny being out of touch with the mindset that dictates that people must speak out against a cat when they feel it is necessary?
lmao @ you talkin irrelevant bullshit about homelss poeple..
it's called a methaphor. act like your familiar with the different devices available to communicate an idea.
of course I think I am right, that's why I'm making my point clear here, read other posts and you will realize nobody acts like his opinion is just an opinion, everbody speaks of it as thruth, including your damn self so please stop fooling yourself
you seem to have a hard time understanding language. this isn't a matter of right and wrong. i specifically stated that "it doesn't matter if you are "right" or "wrong". i could easily make the argument that it's childish to speak in terms of those sorts of absolutes. what my post was about was the fact that you are out of touch with the people you are speaking against; not whether or not you were right or wrong.
uhm maybe you didn't realize it yet but most people in this thread have the same opinion as I do so what are you talkin about me vs the rest of the world ?
lol!
look. let's look at two levels to this argument:
we can look at this yuk/game conflict from the perspective of the hip hop observers in this thread; and your claim that you share the majority opinion. the reality is that this a thread with 40 posts, 600 views and really only about 6 or 7 people that are actually going back and forth over whether or not some combination of yuk and game is right or wrong.
you're effectively trying to claim that a "vocal minority" actually represents the majority of posters and viewers in this thread. the basis for such a claim is dubious as there are no true statistics to back it up either way. your position is intellectually dishonest and borders on propoganda.
if you truly want to take the temperature of the majority opinion of the people in this thread, start a poll. that will sort out how many of the posts and views are unique, and what the actual silent majority of the viewers are actually thinking. to sum it up succinctly, take another look at this thread. most people have come down either on one side or the other. your position that "both are wrong" is certainly not the majority of the posts in aggregate. and your implied statistical analysis is dishonest.
secondly, my position is that you and the groupies are out of touch with the "rules to the game". you are clearly out of touch with both yuk and game as you called both of them wrong. neither yuk nor game could possibly agree with you as you disagree with both. again it's clear that you are out of touch with the artists.
what I said is that I can't call snoop a puppet for dissing eazy cause Dre didn't make him change his opinion on eazy like J prince did yuk on 50.. Snoop didn't give eazy props before he started dissing him
incorrect. snoop and dpg have both given eazy props after the fact and stated that they were taking up for dre. check daz's comments at the record release party for the ruthless "decade of game".
you are again "forgetting" about the fact that Yuk gave props to 50 right before he started dissing
yuk gave 50 props for making hits or something. yuk was acknowledging 50's success. trying to make it clear that he wasn't jealous. you are misrepresenting yuk's comments.
If you are implying
i'm not implying anything. you claimed that yuk didn't work with east coast cats and that issn't true.
I got yuk's albums and know about his beefs but I was talkin about thuglordz disses combined
this is what you said:
in their whole carrier they didn't make more diss tracks than they are doing now towards the man they never met
that statement is not true about yuk, and now you are trying to backpedal.
and with the shiload of disses on the mixtapes n shit they have more 50 disses than any disses to any other artist, obviously you are not familiar with bo#s shit yourself otherwise you'd know this
i spoke on yuk, not c-bo. i have thug lordz, west coast mafia, west side ryders, the mob father...but i was not speaking on c-bo. i'm not a c-bo fan. yuk has been dissing cats left and right for years. yuk in that statement. take note that yuk is the artist mentioned in the title of this thread and in my posts.
dissing people you liked, people who's music you bumped all the time
there's a difference between liking a song someone did and respecting them as a person. it's admirable that yuk would take the time to make the distinction.
even if I liked your ass, if I get an order I won't question, just do it fast" .. puppet please
you're misrepresenting yuk again. this is the same guy that went after scarface while they were labelmates; and lil j clearly wasn't that happy about that. if yuk was a puppet he wouldn't have smashed back on face.
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here. let me highlight the portion of my original argument that applies to you:
these groupies are trying to redefine the rules to the game but 50, game, snoop, dpg and yuk and c-bo are all playing by the same rules. the same rules that have been in effect forever. it's not yuk that's in the wrong. it's not 50. it's not game. they are all playing by the same rules. it's these groupies that are getting their panties in a bunch because they've been taught that dick riding is better than clowning a cat wearing blonde hair and a tongue ring. the groupies are in the wrong.
dissing whoever you want to diss even without having a real reason is not the rule of the game but just an opportunity that everybody has, you are totally confused boy. of course everybody has the choice to do whatever he wants to do but that doesn't change anything about them makin themselves look pathetic. just like many rappers did that before, there are also many other rappers that underlined how pathetic these rappers are, who are you to say what some of em say are the rules of the game and what others say is against the rules and being "out of touch" ?
check what Spider said about yuk and bo dissing 50 and them just cause they on top, he certainly doesn't consider it playing by the rules of the game.
do you see now that you are preaching your opinion as the truth as you told me i was doing before ? you are still clowning yourself.. I hoped you'd learn from the first time
you are trying to redefine the rules of the game. whether you criticize one side as a groupie of the other, or both sides. either way, you're on the outside trying to redefine what's appropriate and acceptable. that is the part that directly speaks to you.
I'm proving your argument wong, not strengthening it, see that now ?
only in your own mind. do you deny that you are trying to redefine well established practices and customs within the hip hop community? do you deny being out of touch with the mindset that dictates that people must speak out against a cat when they feel it is necessary?
^^what I said above
lmao @ you talkin irrelevant bullshit about homelss poeple..
it's called a methaphor. act like your familiar with the different devices available to communicate an idea.
metaphors are to be used when the make sense, yours is just clowning on yourself in two ways.. for once it's totally senseless and inappropriate here, and like that wasn't enough you are doing the same thing you blamed me for
you seem to have a hard time understanding language. this isn't a matter of right and wrong. i specifically stated that "it doesn't matter if you are "right" or "wrong". i could easily make the argument that it's childish to speak in terms of those sorts of absolutes. what my post was about was the fact that you are out of touch with the people you are speaking against; not whether or not you were right or wrong.
not maybe but as a matter of fact you are having an immense hard time seing what you are saying yourself, you should try and fix that before you start speaking on what other people say
if you consider something the rules of the game and tell me im "out of touch" with the artists then you are presenting this opinion of yours as a fact. You didn't say "I think" or whatever you said those are the rules.. so you yourself are considering it right what you say, for you there's no doubt about that being the rules.. take your time and think about it will ya just don't come back with the same bullhsit again
look. let's look at two levels to this argument:
we can look at this yuk/game conflict from the perspective of the hip hop observers in this thread; and your claim that you share the majority opinion. the reality is that this a thread with 40 posts, 600 views and really only about 6 or 7 people that are actually going back and forth over whether or not some combination of yuk and game is right or wrong.
you're effectively trying to claim that a "vocal minority" actually represents the majority of posters and viewers in this thread. the basis for such a claim is dubious as there are no true statistics to back it up either way. your position is intellectually dishonest and borders on propoganda.
if you truly want to take the temperature of the majority opinion of the people in this thread, start a poll. that will sort out how many of the posts and views are unique, and what the actual silent majority of the viewers are actually thinking. to sum it up succinctly, take another look at this thread. most people have come down either on one side or the other. your position that "both are wrong" is certainly not the majority of the posts in aggregate. and your implied statistical analysis is dishonest.
i hate to brake it to ya but you do not sound intelligent.. all that talk about dishonor and propaganda is nothin to do with this so i won't bother..
the point was simple, you said im the only one saying what I said and I said I'm not.. actually in this very thread i wasn't right cause 6 people said yuk's wrong, and 7 said he's right, I just had all the other threads in midn that had to do with this where more people posted of who the majority said yuk's wrong / a puppet.
secondly, my position is that you and the groupies are out of touch with the "rules to the game". you are clearly out of touch with both yuk and game as you called both of them wrong. neither yuk nor game could possibly agree with you as you disagree with both. again it's clear that you are out of touch with the artists.
first of I said 50 was wrong for dissing people for attention, not game, anyway that just means I disagree with 50, then again i agree with others like spider loc.. everybody gots they opinion, I'm not out of touch with "the" artists, , I dissagree with some artists
what I said is that I can't call snoop a puppet for dissing eazy cause Dre didn't make him change his opinion on eazy like J prince did yuk on 50.. Snoop didn't give eazy props before[/I] he started dissing him
incorrect. snoop and dpg have both given eazy props after the fact and stated that they were taking up for dre. check daz's comments at the record release party for the ruthless "decade of game".
learn readin properly, I said before, not after they dissed him.. of course you can change your mind.. plus it's obvious everybody in the game would give eazy the props he deserved, now that he's dead, even if they have had real beef with him in his life time
I don't even think it's unlikely that snoop liked eazy before he dissed him and jsut did it cause dre wanted him to but I can't tell that for a fact neither can you so i ain't gon call him a puppet.. if it is the case then he was a puppet for starting a real beef with eazy when he liked him before, had nothin to do with the beef, and only knew about it what Dre (only one side)told him about it
yuk gave 50 props for making hits or something. yuk was acknowledging 50's success. trying to make it clear that he wasn't jealous. you are misrepresenting yuk's comments.
yuk said he was feelin 50's shit, now he says 50's wack cause boss told him too.. I don't remember the exact words of course but it was clear that he had a totally differnt opinion on 50 than he does now. how can you give props to somebody for his rap carreer and tell him to "stop rhyming" (which he does now) at the same time ? you couldn't possibly do that.. it's obvious that j prince made him say what he wants to be said
i'm not implying anything. you claimed that yuk didn't work with east coast cats and that issn't true.
false. i claimed cbo said he wouldn't, not yuk, then both of them (that's why I said thuglordz) had smurf and domination flown over immediatly..
that statement is not true about yuk, and now you are trying to backpedal.
I was talkin about disses to one person, yuk had beef with face for example who dissed him first, yet he hasn't more face disses than 50 disses.. and so on.. not backpeddling at all, just clarifying, combined, the thuglords have more disses to 50 than they have to any other artist although they never met him and they had real beef before..
there's a difference between liking a song someone did and respecting them as a person. it's admirable that yuk would take the time to make the distinction.
that was back then, nowadays he consideres 50 wack.. he's telling him to "stop rhyming" and he complaints about him mentioning his getting shot so it's obvious he doesn't feel his shit no more.. this total change of mind reflects his general change of mind (caused, or should I say orderd by j prince) on 50
even if I liked your ass, if I get an order I won't question, just do it fast" .. puppet please
you're misrepresenting yuk again. this is the same guy that went after scarface while they were labelmates; and lil j clearly wasn't that happy about that. if yuk was a puppet he wouldn't have smashed back on face.
face dissed him so he simply had the right to reply, so j prince probably didn't hold him back. and even if yuk did it although j prince didn't like it, that wouldn't change anything about hat he does now. My claim is not an assumption but a backed up fact "if the boss wants you dead than it's off wit yo head" those are clear words, and he didn't say "if you fuck with my homies", the way he put it is basically the confession of a puppet, you won't get it any more obvious..he said the only thing required for him to fuck somebody up is his bos wanting him too, no conditions.. so he'd even do it if the person was a homie.. that's the definition of a puppet right there
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i think my point is clear by now so i'll just tie up some loose ends.
dissing whoever you want to diss even without having a real reason is not the rule of the game but just an opportunity that everybody has, you are totally confused boy.
look, people diss for whatever reason they want, and there's a strong precedent for people dissing over shit that isn't really personal. you can look at old school shit like that roxanne roxanne shit or that that boogie down vs juice crew shit. ll vs ice t. it's always been like this.
check what Spider said about yuk and bo dissing 50 and them just cause they on top
spider is on 50's team now. his opinion may be biased.
do you see now that you are preaching your opinion as the truth as you told me i was doing before?
if i'm pointing to the history, to past precedents it's not just my opinion. people have done documentaries on it. what i'm saying is what yuk and c-bo have done is what has always been done; and that is a fact.
all that talk about dishonor and propaganda is nothin to do with this so i won't bother..
just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's irrelevant. you made fallacious statements in an argument to make it appear as if your argument was the majority opinion. i called you on it.
you said im the only one saying what I said and I said I'm not.. actually in this very thread i wasn't right
exactly. and i called you on it.
I don't even think it's unlikely that snoop liked eazy before he dissed him and jsut did it cause dre wanted him to but I can't tell that for a fact neither can you so i ain't gon call him a puppet..
look. snoop and the dpg have stated on numerous occasions that the were fans of cube and nwa. the first thing they did when they hit the scene was diss cube, eazy and snoop took a swipe at ren. they admitted that they were riding for dre. their own statements make it clear that they were beefin' with cats they had no personal beef with. at the time eazy called them on the fact that they were jumping into beef and he didn't know them.
listen to this ruthless radio shit with eazy and the dpg (http://homepage.mac.com/nibs/.Public/Eazy-E%20vs.%20Death Row.mp3)
4:20 in...
eazy: ya'll jumped into something that didn't concern you...
kurupt (or daz): it don't matter...
so check your facts before you run your mouth. you have dpg admitting they jumped into shit that didn't concern them. and i'm not calling them a puppet for it. it's ok to take up for your friends.
yuk said he was feelin 50's shit, now he says 50's wack cause boss told him too..
so lil j is telling yuk what to diss 50 on now? is lil j writing the disses for yuk too? who is lil j, karl rove? wtf ??? you're pulling shit out of your ass to make yuk look bad. and this shit isn't about what disses yuk is hurling at 50, but why.
and really it's about your position that yuk's reasons for dissing aren't good enough for you.
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look, people diss for whatever reason they want, and there's a strong precedent for people dissing over shit that isn't really personal. you can look at old school shit like that roxanne roxanne shit or that that boogie down vs juice crew shit. ll vs ice t. it's always been like this.
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if i'm pointing to the history, to past precedents it's not just my opinion. people have done documentaries on it. what i'm saying is what yuk and c-bo have done is what has always been done; and that is a fact.
people have always been doping stupid shit, wtf is your point, it doesn't matter at all, fact remains they are looking pathetic when they obviously doin it for attention without a real reason. people have always said that too, you still don't get that you are just acting like your opinion is a rule when it's not, it's just what many people did before just like many people said it was pathetic before (including artists)
spider is on 50's team now. his opinion may be biased.
bo and yuk are the ones doin it, of course they are biased.. your arguments are getting even sillier by the moment
Dre and laods of artists said the same shit before get your facts straight, what you call a rule ain't shit but an opportunity for artists that are unhappy with their current situation to try and change things
just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's irrelevant. you made fallacious statements in an argument to make it appear as if your argument was the majority opinion. i called you on it.
you said im the only one saying what I said and I said I'm not.. actually in this very thread i wasn't right
exactly. and i called you on it.
lmao you didn't call me on shit, you yourself thought i was right about this very thread
you're effectively trying to claim that a "vocal minority" actually represents the majority of posters and viewers in this thread.
try and stay honest that's the least thing you could do for yourelf to prevent clowning yourself again
look. snoop and the dpg have stated on numerous occasions that the were fans of cube and nwa. the first thing they did when they hit the scene was diss cube, eazy and snoop took a swipe at ren. they admitted that they were riding for dre. their own statements make it clear that they were beefin' with cats they had no personal beef with. at the time eazy called them on the fact that they were jumping into beef and he didn't know them.
Styles is a fan of Jay-T yet he got beef with him, those are 2 different things. They still might've had the impression of Eazy being shady for fucking his group fellows outta money. Of course they were riding for Dre but that doesn't mean they didn't share his views on eazy and Snoop been at ruthless before death row so he prolly did know eazy
listen to this ruthless radio shit with eazy and the dpg (http://homepage.mac.com/nibs/.Public/Eazy-E%20vs.%20Death Row.mp3)
4:20 in...
eazy: ya'll jumped into something that didn't concern you...
kurupt (or daz): it don't matter...
oh daz / kurupt disagree with me.. I must be wrong !
so check your facts before you run your mouth. you have dpg admitting they jumped into shit that didn't concern them. and i'm not calling them a puppet for it. it's ok to take up for your friends.
you better check yours son, I never said it did concern them, they didn't know Dre back when he was at ruthless so it didn't personally concern them but that doesn't imply that Dre made them change their minds, if they wouldn't have gotten down with Dre but had the same knowledge on the issue they might stil have had the same opinion on eazy, they just wouldn't have spoken on it since they wouldn't have had no reason to.
so lil j is telling yuk what to diss 50 on now? is lil j writing the disses for yuk too? who is lil j, karl rove? wtf ??? you're pulling shit out of your ass to make yuk look bad. and this shit isn't about what disses yuk is hurling at 50, but why.
I ain't got to make up shit, yuk put it all down for me in a perfect way to prove my point, he said if the boss wants something that's what happens, you are avoiding that quote cause you know you ain't got shit to say about it that would help yuk / your point.
yuk saying 50 was dope, bumpin his shit = fact, yuk now tellin 50 to stop rapping (somthing you don't tell a rapper you consider dope) = fact too
no need to maike up shit really, you better stop it now, the objects of our discussion have already closed the case, yuk admitted what I blame him for and you are still trying to deny it.. sad.. get his dick outta ya mouth and keep it shut
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L2DB:
if i'm pointing to the history, to past precedents it's not just my opinion.
people have always been doping stupid shit
ok. so you're calling legends of the game stupid. you're calling krs 1 and mc shan stupid. you're calling ll cool j and ice t stupid. you're calling snoop/dpg (and i guess) b.g. knocc out and dre stupid... pac and the outlaws neatly fit under this umbrella as well...
keep on preachin' from your soap box.
bo and yuk are the ones doin it, of course they are biased.. your arguments are getting even sillier by the moment
you're acting like spider is the voice of reason for taking up for game. spider is biased. why didn't he call game for jumping on buddens? these cats are throwing disses back and forth, and they'll say anything to make the other side look bad at this point. i recognize the game for what it is so i'm not criticizing either side. you started out saying both sides are bad, but in order to make an argument against nibs...now all of a sudden you're apparently on the g-unit side.
lmao you didn't call me on shit, you yourself thought i was right about this very thread
you're effectively trying to claim that a "vocal minority" actually represents the majority of posters and viewers in this thread.
try and stay honest that's the least thing you could do for yourelf to prevent clowning yourself again
lol! more propoganda and misinformation from you. you are being dishonest again. you're selectively reading again. the very next paragraph i clearly stated:
nibs:
take another look at this thread. most people have come down either on one side or the other. your position that "both are wrong" is certainly not the majority of the posts in aggregate.
how many times have you been caught lying about statements people have made in this very thread? please stop distorting the truth.
oh daz / kurupt disagree with me.. I must be wrong !
yes, by definition. they admitted the beef had nothing to do with them. the argument was always about snoop and the dpg and you are dishonestly trying to parse those arguments again.
They still might've had the impression of Eazy being shady for fucking his group fellows outta money. Of course they were riding for Dre but that doesn't mean they didn't share his views on eazy
more hypocrisy. why are you applying a double standard here? why is it ok for snoop and dpg to share the views of their boss but "yukmouth must be a puppet"? stop the hypocrisy.
I ain't got to make up shit, yuk put it all down for me in a perfect way to prove my point, he said if the boss wants something that's what happens, you are avoiding that quote cause you know you ain't got shit to say about it that would help yuk / your point.
stop twisting the facts. i've already stated that it's ok for people to take up for their friends. that statement doesn't contradict my position.
you've got snoop saying "when you diss dre, you diss yourself" and that's really the same shit. yuk is just drawing parallels between the mafia heirarchy with his metaphor, and that's what you are reacting too. lil j being the "boss". but yuk is simply riding with his people. pac used to do the same type of shit when referring to the outlaws below him and suge above him.
you haven't been honest or fair in this thread, your arguments have been riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions and i find that fact deplorable.
more importantly, new information has come out. over at game's forum fase succinctly explained that yuk is dissing game specifically because yuk was heated over a comment game made about their conversation at the club at that release party. game said something like "i spoke with yuk, yuk didn't want any beef"; basically the same shit yuk is saying now in that video. and fase speculated that yuk was heated over those comments. so according to game's camp, the yuk/game shit is personal, based on some sort of misunderstanding that has now escalated.
the only issue that remains is yuk riding for lil j against 50 and the rest of g-unit. and really this shit has always been like that.
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all you do is put words in my mouth
ok. so you're calling legends of the game stupid. you're calling krs 1 and mc shan stupid. you're calling ll cool j and ice t stupid. you're calling snoop/dpg (and i guess) b.g. knocc out and dre stupid... pac and the outlaws neatly fit under this umbrella as well...
1st off of course legends can be stupid, they not legends for being flawless intelligent but for the impact they had, anyway I never called KRS stupid, what I said is
1.those who diss only for attention are stupid
2.those who only diss cause someone orders em to, even if their original opinion on the man they dising was totally different are stupid
krs doesn't fit in either of these categories
bo and yuk are the ones doin it, of course they are biased.. your arguments are getting even sillier by the moment
you're acting like spider is the voice of reason for taking up for game. spider is biased. why didn't he call game for jumping on buddens? these cats are throwing disses back and forth, and they'll say anything to make the other side look bad at this point. i recognize the game for what it is so i'm not criticizing either side. you started out saying both sides are bad, but in order to make an argument against nibs...now all of a sudden you're apparently on the g-unit side.
I dunno what you were on when you wrote this but I didn't say anything that would put me on g unit side, you said Spider was biased, I said yuk and bo are biased too so why would they count more than spider.. if you look at it like this, erybody who dissed for attention or cause somebody ordered him to would be biased cause he wouldn't want to admit his fault.
lmao you didn't call me on shit, you yourself thought i was right about this very thread
you're effectively trying to claim that a "vocal minority" actually represents the majority of posters and viewers in this thread.
try and stay honest that's the least thing you could do for yourelf to prevent clowning yourself again
lol! more propoganda and misinformation from you. you are being dishonest again. you're selectively reading again. the very next paragraph i clearly stated:
nibs:
take another look at this thread. most people have come down either on one side or the other. your position that "both are wrong" is certainly not the majority of the posts in aggregate.
LoL @ you proving yourself wrong and being retarded enough to not realize it.. this following paragraph doesn't change anything about the fact that you didn't know (until I, myself told you[since I don't have a problem admitting my faults]) that there's actually one more person who does not think yuk was wrong about it in this thread. You just came up with yet another false explanation, saying they came down to one side or another and therefore all disagree with me. the fact of the matter is the 6 people I counted that did blame yuk didn't disagree with me at all, NONE of them said 50 was not wrong when dissing people for attention. they didn't even talk on that issue. all they did say is that yuk is a puppet or an attention whore which is what I say too so they do agree with me here.
how many times have you been caught lying about statements people have made in this very thread?
not once as I just proved. I mistook one thing, which I admitted directly in the next post (which is the only reason you know it). You on the other hand lied about quite a few things people said according to you, one of them being that everybody in this thread stated that they disagree with me, the other ting(s) being the many words you put in my mouth during our entire conversation.
yes, by definition. they admitted the beef had nothing to do with them. the argument was always about snoop and the dpg and you are dishonestly trying to parse those arguments again.
you made it about DPG, I was talkin bout snoop plsu I never said that Snoop shared my view on it either. This is, yet again, just something you put in my mouth without me ever having said it.
What I said is that I can't call snoop on something I don't know for sure and fact is I do not know for sure that he didn't think of eazy the way he did when being with Dre, even before he was with Dre. him being a fan of his music doesn't tell us that what he thought about him personally / his bisuness
They still might've had the impression of Eazy being shady for fucking his group fellows outta money. Of course they were riding for Dre but that doesn't mean they didn't share his views on eazy
more hypocrisy. why are you applying a double standard here? why is it ok for snoop and dpg to share the views of their boss but "yukmouth must be a puppet"? stop the hypocrisy.
As I already stated numerious time to your slow ass, it is ok when he had those views before he hooked up with Dre and not just cause Dre told him to share them. I don't know whether or not he did, so I won't say he was a puppet, neither he was not, I simply can't tell, neither can you.
Yuk on the other hand proved that he totally changed his mind cause his boss told him to by having talked about 50 before the shit started (and back then, in a positive way).
I ain't got to make up shit, yuk put it all down for me in a perfect way to prove my point, he said if the boss wants something that's what happens, you are avoiding that quote cause you know you ain't got shit to say about it that would help yuk / your point.
stop twisting the facts. i've already stated that it's ok for people to take up for their friends. that statement doesn't contradict my position.
you've got snoop saying "when you diss dre, you diss yourself" and that's really the same shit. yuk is just drawing parallels between the mafia heirarchy with his metaphor, and that's what you are reacting too. lil j being the "boss". but yuk is simply riding with his people. pac used to do the same type of shit when referring to the outlaws below him and suge above him.
all we know is what the artists say and if yuk says boss he probably means boss, everything else would be pure assumptions.
You said it was ok to take up for friends, but you couldn't yet get yourself to admit that yuk didn't have the opinion on 50 before j prince told him to and boss is a different thing than homie, yuk might not have jumped into this if it was a random homie of his who had problems with 50. especially if the beef wasn't one on wax.
you haven't been honest or fair in this thread, your arguments have been riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions and i find that fact deplorable.
^^the funny thing about this statement is, that your way to back it up is based on your own non existant honesty and on things you made up by putting words in my mouth.
more importantly, new information has come out. over at game's forum fase succinctly explained that yuk is dissing game specifically because yuk was heated over a comment game made about their conversation at the club at that release party. game said something like "i spoke with yuk, yuk didn't want any beef"; basically the same shit yuk is saying now in that video. and fase speculated that yuk was heated over those comments. so according to game's camp, the yuk/game shit is personal, based on some sort of misunderstanding that has now escalated.
that may go for the game beef but the base for this one is the g unit beef which was started by yuk for nothing but being a good puppet and / or and attention whore
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1.those who diss only for attention are stupid
2.those who only diss cause someone orders em to, even if their original opinion on the man they dising was totally different are stupid
krs doesn't fit in either of these categories
krs stated that he writes a diss verse for every cat in the top 10 that would destroy their careers. granted he doesn't release it; but the fact that krs would think and record venomous ideas at all seems to indicate to me that he doesn't share your position on the matter.
all you do is put words in my mouth
no. you simply have limited communication skills. you made foolish statements, i extrapolated those ideas to show how and where they break down. rather than explaining how i'm misinterpretting your comments or whatever, you whine about metaphors not being literally relevant and other such nonsense.
I dunno what you were on when you wrote this but I didn't say anything that would put me on g unit side, you said Spider was biased, I said yuk and bo are biased too so why would they count more than spider..
this is why your argumentative style is dishonest.
first you cite a spider argument against yuk.
when i point out that spider is biased, you twist the issue into:
"why should yuk count more than spider?"
don't you realize that you just tried to count spider's position over yuk's? that's hypocrisy.
now you are suggesting that i'm counting yuk over spider; which is dishonest as i never came down against either side.
hypocrisy and dishonesty all rolled up into one neat package.
You just came up with yet another false explanation, saying they came down to one side or another and therefore all disagree with me. the fact of the matter is the 6 people I counted that did blame yuk didn't disagree with me at all, NONE of them said 50 was not wrong when dissing people for attention.
you crack me up.
your position was that both sides are wrong. you can't speculate that people who partially agree with your position, fully agree with your position. you don't know where people stand on 50's dissing, or game's taking up for g-unit, so you can't claim those people agree with you. that's simply not an honest way to represent the facts.
you made it about DPG, I was talkin bout snoop
you're twisting the facts again. you didn't bring up snoop. snoop/dpg was my analogy. you tried to selectively parse the argument and split off dpg when it didn't suit you. you're basically arguing that even though dpg admits the beef had nothing to do with them, because the words didn't come out of snoop's mouth maybe the beef had something to do with him. you're grasping at straws.
plsu I never said that Snoop shared my view on it either. This is, yet again, just something you put in my mouth without me ever having said it.
again, i'm not putting words in your mouth. i extrapolated your statement to demonstrate that you aren't just critizing yukmouth and game and 50 with your comments; you would also have to critize snoop/dpg, ll cool j, ice t, krs, shan...etc. the problem here is your inability to communicate, your incapacity to appreciate these sorts of comparisons and contrasts. so you're left running your mouth about how "i didn't say that, you're putting words in my mouth" when all i did was take your argument against yuk/game and apply it to ruthless/death row. only a hypocrite would make the sort of argument you've made against yuk and 50 and game, and then deny that the same argument would also apply to snoop, the dpg and death row records. and we can look back at old school cats as well.
and why am i extrapolating? to demonstrate that your arguments are attacking the legends of the game, attacking well established tenets of the game that have existed forever.
too much has happened in this yuk/game beef since this thread was started to make it worthwhile to continue this argument imho. i will say this: your argument that yuk "changed his mind on prince j's orders" is assinine. yuk as man enough to basically admit "i liked your style until i found out you were a fake and a snitch" and regardless of whether or not 50 is a snitch and a fake; you're arguing that yuk should continues to praise 50's lyrics and music while he's dissing him. yuk gave the guy his props up front a while back. once they get into dissing that whole middle ground is gone. "50 you're a fake and a snitch but i can't wait to buy your next album". you're basically arguing that it's impossible to diss someone if you like their shit. maybe yuk thinks 50 fell off? maybe yuk just doesn't think it's prudent to compliment someone for their talent while he's dissing the guy for his image?
but fuck it, i'm through with this.
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krs stated that he writes a diss verse for every cat in the top 10 that would destroy their careers. granted he doesn't release it; but the fact that krs would think and record venomous ideas at all seems to indicate to me that he doesn't share your position on the matter.
yet a gain a bad example that doesn't contribute to this matter in any way. how you are continiously quoting me, claim the quote to be wrong, and come up with a 'proof' that is of no rellevance is beyond me.
In the very part you quoted when you said this, I made clear that I did never say dissing somebody you don't know personally is necessarily wrong.
1.those who diss only for attention are stupid
2.those who only diss cause someone orders em to, even if their original opinion on the man they dising was totally different are stupid
Somebody who doesn't release a diss track is obiously not dissing for attention, a track nobody gets to hear can't possibly get you any kind of recognition, even you should be able to see that.
all you do is put words in my mouth
no. you simply have limited communication skills. you made foolish statements, i extrapolated those ideas to show how and where they break down. rather than explaining how i'm misinterpretting your comments or whatever, you whine about metaphors not being literally relevant and other such nonsense.
I did explain, and lemme add, not only once.. In addition to that I mentioned the irrelevance of your metaphore in one of the numerous sentences my post. The sad fact that you are not capable of understanding (or not willing to admit) your misinterprerations is not to be blamed on me.
I dunno what you were on when you wrote this but I didn't say anything that would put me on g unit side, you said Spider was biased, I said yuk and bo are biased too so why would they count more than spider..
this is why your argumentative style is dishonest.
first you cite a spider argument against yuk.
when i point out that spider is biased, you twist the issue into:
"why should yuk count more than spider?"
don't you realize that you just tried to count spider's position over yuk's? that's hypocrisy.
now you are suggesting that i'm counting yuk over spider; which is dishonest as i never came down against either side.
your repeated way of showing off yourself is getting ridicilous.
You said dissing people for attention / for the fact that somebody orderd you to are the rules of the game and all Yuk is doing is playing by those rules. By that you automatically name him as an example of the people who consider this kind of behaviour rules. Now I mentioned Spider as an opposite example, proving that not every artist shares your view on this as you claimed. What you do is turn around and claim Spider is biased, when you own example Yuk is in the same beef and therefore not a bit less biased.
the ability to logically connect these claims with each other is where you lack and probably the reason why this conversation doesn't get any further but more repetitive with every post.
you crack me up.
your position was that both sides are wrong. you can't speculate that people who partially agree with your position, fully agree with your position. you don't know where people stand on 50's dissing, or game's taking up for g-unit, so you can't claim those people agree with you. that's simply not an honest way to represent the facts.
You are the one speculation by saying everybody disagrees with me when nobody stated his opinion on the full issue as you just said yourself
most people have come down either on one side or the other
false. most people either said yuk is wrong about the beef, or not, that doesn't mean they chose any sides. as long as they don't say 50 is not wrong they might be neutral and just have the opinion that what Yuk is doing is wrong, as I do.
when I say they agree with me I'm talkin about the decision, wheter yuk is wrong about the beef or not cause you think he's not while I think he is. And in that matter they agree with me, not you so there really is nothing at all I had to speculate on.
you made it about DPG, I was talkin bout snoop
you're twisting the facts again. you didn't bring up snoop. snoop/dpg was my analogy. you tried to selectively parse the argument and split off dpg when it didn't suit you. you're basically arguing that even though dpg admits the beef had nothing to do with them, because the words didn't come out of snoop's mouth maybe the beef had something to do with him. you're grasping at straws.
I never said you didn't bring up the example, the quote of mine is 100% correct, you made it about DPG, you might as well be the one who brought it up in the first place, I never denied that. I sure am sorry if you feel mistreated cause I didn't underline that it was your great achievement.
The important point is I was talkin about snoop all the time, his case is differnt since he prolly knew Eazy unlike Daz n Kurupt. And I'll repeat, I'm not saying Snoop did have this opinion on eazy before he hooked up with Dre, but that he might have had this opinion. I simply can't tell since I never heard him say anything about it at that time.
plsu I never said that Snoop shared my view on it either. This is, yet again, just something you put in my mouth without me ever having said it.
again, i'm not putting words in your mouth. i extrapolated your statement to demonstrate that you aren't just critizing yukmouth and game and 50 with your comments; you would also have to critize snoop/dpg, ll cool j, ice t, krs, shan...etc. the problem here is your inability to communicate, your incapacity to appreciate these sorts of comparisons and contrasts. so you're left running your mouth about how "i didn't say that, you're putting words in my mouth" when all i did was take your argument against yuk/game and apply it to ruthless/death row. only a hypocrite would make the sort of argument you've made against yuk and 50 and game, and then deny that the same argument would also apply to snoop, the dpg and death row records. and we can look back at old school cats as well.
For the various reasons I mentioned before the situation is not the same so I have no reason to appreciate the comparison. I disagree with your comparison and you conclude to "incapacy".. and you talk about dishonesty...
yuk as man enough to basically admit "i liked your style until i found out you were a fake and a snitch" and regardless of whether or not 50 is a snitch and a fake; you're arguing that yuk should continues to praise 50's lyrics and music while he's dissing him. yuk gave the guy his props up front a while back. once they get into dissing that whole middle ground is gone. "50 you're a fake and a snitch but i can't wait to buy your next album". you're basically arguing that it's impossible to diss someone if you like their shit. maybe yuk thinks 50 fell off? maybe yuk just doesn't think it's prudent to compliment someone for their talent while he's dissing the guy for his image?
LoL @ you having the nerve to progagize Yuk's behaviour as one that makes him more of a man. In order to do that you are, of course, twisting the facts agan. Yuk never admitted that he digged 50 since he began dissing him so him being man enough to say that he liked his style while beefing with him is untrue and made up by you.
You are even contradicting yourself in the very next sentence when saying he can't do what you just claimed he does.
Also I never said Yuk should compliment 50 in his disses, but fact is he loved GRODT and nowadays he tells 50 to stop rapping without him releasing another solo album in between on which he could base the opinion that 50 fell off. It's obvious that he adapted lil j's views on 50 without questioning and this is what I and many others call him a puppet for. He's dissing 50 for bragging about getting shot when the very next man (c-bo) is doing the exact same shit with Fat Tone.. evidently he's just looking for things to diss 50 with, not dissing him because of things he despises and why would you do such things other than being told or for attention..?
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L2DB:
By that you automatically name him as an example of the people who consider this kind of behaviour rules. Now I mentioned Spider as an opposite example, proving that not every artist shares your view on this as you claimed. What you do is turn around and claim Spider is biased, when you own example Yuk is in the same beef and therefore not a bit less biased.
i argued that yuk has a right to diss, i wasn't evaluating the content of what yuk was saying in his disses.
you mentioned spider's arguments against dissing; but spider was dissing in the process. spider was taking subtle shots at yuk and c-bo. spider was criticizing yuk's street credibility, suggesting that he may have whipped the ass of someone in c-bo's camp (possibly c-bo himself)...etc; mocked yuk's career... within his criticisms spider questions yuk's motives for dissing. spider's comments that yuk shouldn't be dissing was a diss per sé aimed at smearing yuk's credibility. i support spider's right to make the comments as they fall under the same umbrella as yuk's; but how can someone speak against jumpin' into other people's beefs or whatever when they're doing the exact same shit in the process?
i don't see how you can take spider's comments at face value which is why i accused you of choosing a side when you quote spider's disses as the truth. if you take spider's comments at face value he must be a hypocrite as noone was talking about or thinking about spider and now he's taken shots at the thug lordz and gotten his name out there as well. he's jumped into some shit that didn't concern him. however, i'm not even analyzing spider's comments that deeply as they are just another diss and not actually factual statements.
if you want to argue that the content of spider's comments disagree with the views i've been espousing; i'll point out that spider would be a hypocrite if he truly believed those statements and still took subliminal shots at yuk, as he's done. however, spider has a right to diss.
Yuk never admitted that he digged 50 since he began dissing him so him being man enough to say that he liked his style while beefing with him is untrue and made up by you.
heh. i misspoke there. i confused yuk's comments with c-bo's on "thug lordz" off the godzilla album. it was c-bo that said 50 was hot but a snitch, yuk gave a nod to dre and xzibit. i certainly misspoke there.
Also I never said Yuk should compliment 50 in his disses, but fact is he loved GRODT and nowadays he tells 50 to stop rapping without him releasing another solo album in between on which he could base the opinion that 50 fell off.
it's a diss. he's mocking 50. you're overanalyzing his disses, just as you over-analyzed the "if the boss wants you dead, it's off with your head" line.
The important point is I was talkin about snoop all the time, his case is differnt since he prolly knew Eazy unlike Daz n Kurupt.
it sounds like you are focusing on snoop because you know you'd have to condemn the dpg.
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L2DB:
By that you automatically name him as an example of the people who consider this kind of behaviour rules. Now I mentioned Spider as an opposite example, proving that not every artist shares your view on this as you claimed. What you do is turn around and claim Spider is biased, when you own example Yuk is in the same beef and therefore not a bit less biased.
i argued that yuk has a right to diss, i wasn't evaluating the content of what yuk was saying in his disses.
you mentioned spider's arguments against dissing; but spider was dissing in the process. spider was taking subtle shots at yuk and c-bo. spider was criticizing yuk's street credibility, suggesting that he may have whipped the ass of someone in c-bo's camp (possibly c-bo himself)...etc; mocked yuk's career... within his criticisms spider questions yuk's motives for dissing. spider's comments that yuk shouldn't be dissing was a diss per sé aimed at smearing yuk's credibility. i support spider's right to make the comments as they fall under the same umbrella as yuk's; but how can someone speak against jumpin' into other people's beefs or whatever when they're doing the exact same shit in the process?
i don't see how you can take spider's comments at face value which is why i accused you of choosing a side when you quote spider's disses as the truth. if you take spider's comments at face value he must be a hypocrite as noone was talking about or thinking about spider and now he's taken shots at the thug lordz and gotten his name out there as well. he's jumped into some shit that didn't concern him. however, i'm not even analyzing spider's comments that deeply as they are just another diss and not actually factual statements.
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if you want to argue that the content of spider's comments disagree with the views i've been espousing; i'll point out that spider would be a hypocrite if he truly believed those statements and still took subliminal shots at yuk, as he's done. however, spider has a right to diss.
Spider is not necessarily being a hypocrite since he said thuglords are wrong about it since they didn't have a reason, he doesn't even mention lil j so it seems like he thinks they are doing it for attention only (which is probably true on Bo's part).. he himself on the other handis getting involved cause they started dissing his peeps for no reason cause he sees that as a disrespect to himself since he's down with Bo and both are bangers and he naturally wouldn't diss somebody on Bo's camp for that reason (that's what he said)
he underlines that they are overdoing this diss thing cause considering 50 possibly doesn't even know about them while they continue dissing (he might share my opinion right here, you can make a comment to speak your mind, but treating it like an all serious beef without ever getting a response is just pathetic)
Yuk never admitted that he digged 50 since he began dissing him so him being man enough to say that he liked his style while beefing with him is untrue and made up by you.
heh. i misspoke there. i confused yuk's comments with c-bo's on "thug lordz" off the godzilla album. it was c-bo that said 50 was hot but a snitch, yuk gave a nod to dre and xzibit. i certainly misspoke there.
see how fast that happens.. btw, I think Bo might have meant "hot" as in big and successwise on top at the moment, not as in musically dope, since he considers 50 wack in other diss tracks which would be pointless if he call him dope at the same time.
Also I never said Yuk should compliment 50 in his disses, but fact is he loved GRODT and nowadays he tells 50 to stop rapping without him releasing another solo album in between on which he could base the opinion that 50 fell off.
it's a diss. he's mocking 50. you're overanalyzing his disses, just as you over-analyzed the "if the boss wants you dead, it's off with your head" line.
maybe, maybe not, to clarify that we'd have to ask Yuk himself
The important point is I was talkin about snoop all the time, his case is differnt since he prolly knew Eazy unlike Daz n Kurupt.
it sounds like you are focusing on snoop because you know you'd have to condemn the dpg.
you can look at it like this.. after Dre Day when Dre brought snoop in (who knew eazy) Eazy brought BG KO n Dresta in who did not know Dre, so Dre might've been like fuck it then I got more talented emcees too who can fight out this battle between me and Eazy's peeps who I never knew..
The only other diss track to Eazy "Bitchez Ain't Shit" only had Dre's verse dissing Eazy.. Dre might've wanted to take care of his beef while he let his boys take care of the ones that stepped in (--> Dresta and Knocc out, "What Would U Do")
I'm not saying that's how it was but it's possible so I do have a reason to not say the same thing about them as I do about Thuglordz (because I don't know it for sure as I do about thuglordz case)
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Dre also dissed eazy on puffin on blunts..
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yeah, I was talkin about the chronic, puffin on blunts was on the Dre day single but not on the album.. And yet again only Dre dissed Eazy.. Rage and Daz just kicked general battleraps and Kurupt dissed big hutch on 2 lines
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yeah, I was talkin about the chronic, puffin on blunts was on the Dre day single but not on the album.. And yet again only Dre dissed Eazy.. Rage and Daz just kicked general battleraps and Kurupt dissed big hutch on 2 lines
kurupt dissed big hutch, he also calls out kokane and dissed ice cube (lench mob specifically).
"death row ain't lenchin' and the pound ain't mobbin'
we all don't give a fuck ran in your crib and start robbin
throbbin, i'm breakin' niggaz down in the 90's
maxing with my dogs in the pound is where you'll find me"
dre mocked the lench mob on "let me ride" and then tried to switch it up in the video like he was giving cube props.
"some niggaz like lenching, but i just watch them hang"...
snoop also took a shot at ren on the chronic intro:
"what up ren, droppin' chronic flakes on yo' ass biyaatch
west coast flavor, niggaz that talk shit, get dealt with real quick"
that's not a shout out. that's a shot.
snoop was also involved in dissing ice cube on dre day:
"[snoop] then we gone creeps to south central
on a street knowledge mission, [dre] as i steps in the temple
spot him got him as i pulls out my strap
got my chrome to the side of his white sox hat
[snoop]you tryin' ta to check my homie, you best check yourself
cuz when you diss dre you diss yourself, [dre]muthaphukka"
it was more than just cube, and puffin' on blunts was certainly released before real muthaphukkin g'z, which didn't drop until late summer of '93.
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yeah, like I said Dre took care of Eazy and let his boys handle the rest cause not even being a lyricist he didn't want to have all his verses on the Chronic be disses and he was up against so many peeps at the time.. now If kurupt n Daz had numerous whole diss tracks to Cube who they didn't even know on Dogg Food I would certainly call it as pathetic and pointless as I do Thuglordz' disses