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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Rizzle on September 14, 2004, 04:45:03 AM
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Mr Sharon's holiday interviews also pledged to expel Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat - when it was "convenient" for Israel - and hinted at a possible assassination attempt.
"Just as we acted against other murderers, so we will act with Arafat," he said.
IMO opinion the international community should act against those murderers in israel
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That's fucking crazy. Israel is the country that needs an occupation.
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the international community doesn't do shit...all they do is hold meetings and give slaps on the wrist... iraq proved this, america proved this...
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so what's the news?
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Fresh from Palestinian TV:
Sheik Ibrahim Madiras Friday sermon, PA TV Sept. 10, 2004:
"The Prophet said: the Resurrection will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them. The Muslims will kill the Jews, rejoice [in it], rejoice in Allahs Victory. The Muslims will kill the Jews, and ... The Prophet said: the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!. Why is there this malice? Because there are none who love the Jews on the face of the earth: not man, not rock, and not tree everything hates them. They destroy everything they destroy the trees and destroy the houses. Everything wants vengeance on the Jews, on these pigs on the face of the earth, and the day of our victory, Allah willing, will come."
Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Maadi on his weekly TV show, Sept. 12, 2004:
"We are waging this cruel war with the brothers of the monkeys and pigs, the Jews and the sons of Zion The Jews will fight you and you will subjugate them. Until the Jew will stand behind the tree and rock. And the tree and rock will say: oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
http://www.pmw.org.il/
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Sharon and Arafat are both useless fat fucks. I was feelin' the other Israeli Prime minister, his name started with a B but I can't remember it.
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i dont know who to hate.. so fuck muslims
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Fresh from Palestinian TV:
Sheik Ibrahim Madiras Friday sermon, PA TV Sept. 10, 2004:
"The Prophet said: the Resurrection will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them. The Muslims will kill the Jews, rejoice [in it], rejoice in Allahs Victory. The Muslims will kill the Jews, and ... The Prophet said: the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!. Why is there this malice? Because there are none who love the Jews on the face of the earth: not man, not rock, and not tree everything hates them. They destroy everything they destroy the trees and destroy the houses. Everything wants vengeance on the Jews, on these pigs on the face of the earth, and the day of our victory, Allah willing, will come."
Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Maadi on his weekly TV show, Sept. 12, 2004:
"We are waging this cruel war with the brothers of the monkeys and pigs, the Jews and the sons of Zion The Jews will fight you and you will subjugate them. Until the Jew will stand behind the tree and rock. And the tree and rock will say: oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
http://www.pmw.org.il/
If I was a Palestinian I should every right to call the jew-who attacked me, sabotaged us financially, drove us out of our land, systematically pushed us off our homes, killed my family members, changed the arabic names of towns, and completely re wrote history to the point of not even recognizing my FUCKIN EXISTENCE (It took the fuckin Israelis until the fuckin 80s before they acknowledged the existence of the Palestinians) let alone land claims to a place where my family has been for a 1000 years- a fuckin pig who deserves to die a cruel death. You dont understand that perspective, hence you will never get it.
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If I was a Palestinian I should every right to call the jew-who attacked me, sabotaged us financially, drove us out of our land, systematically pushed us off our homes, killed my family members, changed the arabic names of towns, and completely re wrote history to the point of not even recognizing my FUCKIN EXISTENCE (It took the fuckin Israelis until the fuckin 80s before they acknowledged the existence of the Palestinians) let alone land claims to a place where my family has been for a 1000 years- a fuckin pig who deserves to die a cruel death. You dont understand that perspective, hence you will never get it.
The "Religion of Peace" everybody!
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are you trying to imply that jews are peaceful?
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are you trying to imply that jews are peaceful?
I think jews are. The Israelis just ain't.
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true, and the ones in who have influence in america
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no... cause then you should argue that everyone with an influence in america is not peaceful
btw, when a jew isn't peaceful it has nothing to do with his religion :-X
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Whats the deal with Stupid people?
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Whats the deal with Stupid people?
CLASSIC.
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truthfully.. i dont understand what anyone is talking about.. but everyone seems dumb... and jerry is a jew. :)
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I like George.
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If I was a Palestinian I should every right to call the jew-who attacked me, sabotaged us financially, drove us out of our land, systematically pushed us off our homes, killed my family members, changed the arabic names of towns, and completely re wrote history to the point of not even recognizing my FUCKIN EXISTENCE (It took the fuckin Israelis until the fuckin 80s before they acknowledged the existence of the Palestinians) let alone land claims to a place where my family has been for a 1000 years- a fuckin pig who deserves to die a cruel death. You dont understand that perspective, hence you will never get it.
The "Religion of Peace" everybody!
Englewood, out of slight respect for you, I will offer you a pass. I could ask you a question in response to your lil comment and totally serve your ass on a platter. But im tired and high
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If I was a Palestinian I should every right to call the jew-who attacked me, sabotaged us financially, drove us out of our land, systematically pushed us off our homes, killed my family members, changed the arabic names of towns, and completely re wrote history to the point of not even recognizing my FUCKIN EXISTENCE (It took the fuckin Israelis until the fuckin 80s before they acknowledged the existence of the Palestinians) let alone land claims to a place where my family has been for a 1000 years- a fuckin pig who deserves to die a cruel death. You dont understand that perspective, hence you will never get it.
The "Religion of Peace" everybody!
Englewood, out of slight respect for you, I will offer you a pass. I could ask you a question in response to your lil comment and totally serve your ass on a platter. But im tired and high
LOL
I'd come over, fuck your mother, then shit all over your face, bbut I'm tired, and a bit drunk so nevermind.
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Sharon and Arafat are both useless fat fucks. I was feelin' the other Israeli Prime minister, his name started with a B but I can't remember it.
Benjamin Netanyahu
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Sharon and Arafat are both useless fat fucks. I was feelin' the other Israeli Prime minister, his name started with a B but I can't remember it.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah that's it. Things seemed to run more smoothly when he was around.
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Sharon and Arafat are both useless fat fucks. I was feelin' the other Israeli Prime minister, his name started with a B but I can't remember it.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah that's it. Things seemed to run more smoothly when he was around.
to tell you the truth I was convinced you meant Ehud Barak, cause he's usually the one who gets props from outside for the fact he was willing to give up 97% of the demand back in Camp David.
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Fresh from Palestinian TV:
Sheik Ibrahim Madiras Friday sermon, PA TV Sept. 10, 2004:
"The Prophet said: the Resurrection will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them. The Muslims will kill the Jews, rejoice [in it], rejoice in Allahs Victory. The Muslims will kill the Jews, and ... The Prophet said: the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!. Why is there this malice? Because there are none who love the Jews on the face of the earth: not man, not rock, and not tree everything hates them. They destroy everything they destroy the trees and destroy the houses. Everything wants vengeance on the Jews, on these pigs on the face of the earth, and the day of our victory, Allah willing, will come."
Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Maadi on his weekly TV show, Sept. 12, 2004:
"We are waging this cruel war with the brothers of the monkeys and pigs, the Jews and the sons of Zion The Jews will fight you and you will subjugate them. Until the Jew will stand behind the tree and rock. And the tree and rock will say: oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
http://www.pmw.org.il/
If I was a Palestinian I should every right to call the jew-who attacked me, sabotaged us financially, drove us out of our land, systematically pushed us off our homes, killed my family members, changed the arabic names of towns, and completely re wrote history to the point of not even recognizing my FUCKIN EXISTENCE (It took the fuckin Israelis until the fuckin 80s before they acknowledged the existence of the Palestinians) let alone land claims to a place where my family has been for a 1000 years- a fuckin pig who deserves to die a cruel death. You dont understand that perspective, hence you will never get it.
EXCUSE ME?!!, does this mean it works the other way around?!!- does it mean that as an Israeli I can call a Palestinian(- due to the fact he belongs to a radical blood thirsty terroristic clan of millions, which VIRTUALLY HAD NO EXISTANCE AS A SINGLE NATION untill the Jews started returning from their diaspra, That existed in the form of Mobile tribes that at many times were hostile towards one another and came together to "defeat a common ENEMY"(the jews)- to "re-gain" the land. That Used a Peace Process to gain international recognition, through which they also solidified their status as a right-worthy single nation, after years of denieing Israel's existance, and puting in charge an old timer terrorist that manipulated with international support money to support terrorism, killing large numbers of Israeli Cevillians-) A Virus that needs to be exterminated??
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Sharon and Arafat are both useless fat fucks. I was feelin' the other Israeli Prime minister, his name started with a B but I can't remember it.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah that's it. Things seemed to run more smoothly when he was around.
They were the closest to a peace treaty when Rabin was still president.
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Mr Sharon's holiday interviews also pledged to expel Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat - when it was "convenient" for Israel - and hinted at a possible assassination attempt.
"Just as we acted against other murderers, so we will act with Arafat," he said.
IMO opinion the international community should act against those murderers in israel
yea like helping Hamas transport Kasam missiles on vihicles with UN and RED CROSS logoes....oh wait, they are already doing it.
p.s The international community should mind it's own fuckin business. I think that for interfering with Israel's national security like this they should be treated as supporters of terrorism.
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^ LOL
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Israeli propaganda it was a stretcher being loaded into the UN truck, but then israelis count the UN as a viable target anyways.
even an army spokesperson said it wasn't a missile An Israeli military official said an object seen in video footage might be a stretcher rather than a rocket.
The UN relief agency chief in Gaza described them as "malicious propaganda" that endangered UN lives.
In a statement, the Danish diplomat said it was not the first time the Israeli government had "propagated falsehoods" against the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (Unrwa).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3716930.stm
even comments israel press look down on israels current campaign in gaza
Prime Minister Sharon must give up the concept that there is no one to talk to. There is a need to find the 'pragmatic forces' in the Palestinian Authority and talk to them under the auspices of the US, Europe and Egypt. There is no purpose in sending Israeli forces in each time a Qassam rocket falls. It is an illusion that the solution to force is using more force.
Commentary in Israel's Ma'ariv
What options have not been tried already, only to reach the same dead end that faced other peoples before us, who blindly and stubbornly believed they could sit on the back of an occupied people, inherit its land, destroy its fields and live?
Second commentary in Israel's Yediot Aharonot
The woprd from the israeli cabinate
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, also said the cabinet move cleared the way for Israeli troops to move in force into the Palestinian towns of Beit Lahiya, Beit Hanoun and also the Jabaliya camp, the Associated Press news agency reported.
The plan also reportedly envisages an extended stay of the Israeli army in northern Gaza to crush what Israel describes as terror infrastructure in the area.
"We are intending to make the Palestinians pay a heavy price so they will understand that continuing to fire Qassam rockets does not pay," an Israeli defence official told the Israel army radio.
as the reports over the last week have shown israel has targeted palestinians and not just terrorists, many women and children are now dead. its very sad israel can do this and that america gives them the green light.
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All That The Spokesperson said was that they can't be sure what it was, But we can't forget that under these charges The UN admited it has Hamas inmates co-operating with them(not that it wasn't known), and isn't that enough? a terroristic organization co-operating with the united nations(The so called uninvovled- objective "third party"?) A Missile transported in a UN car is just tip of the ice to what they could've pulled using UN clearences...
Oh and how funny is that they ecuse Israel in having propogated false shoots after what the Palestinians have been pulling for the last couple of years, funny that u don't remember them fake funerals, And the Palestinians shot by Palestinian millitants' fire for which Israeli soldiers were blamed....
Israel never aim's at inocent people in it's millitary operations unlike Palestinian millitants, saying something like this is Propoganda, If inocent people do get hurt it's unfortunate and the ones who should be blamed for it are Palestinian millitants...
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Israel never aim's at inocent people in it's millitary operations unlike Palestinian millitants, saying something like this is Propoganda, If inocent people do get hurt it's unfortunate and the ones who should be blamed for it are Palestinian millitants...
have you ever thaught about getting a job as a comedian?
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Israel never aim's at inocent people in it's millitary operations unlike Palestinian millitants, saying something like this is Propoganda, If inocent people do get hurt it's unfortunate and the ones who should be blamed for it are Palestinian millitants...
have you ever thaught about getting a job as a comedian?
Well, what can I say, great that you find it to be funny.
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have you ever thaught about getting a job as a comedian?
Never ever try and make fun of somebody.
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Israel never aim's at inocent people in it's millitary operations unlike Palestinian millitants, saying something like this is Propoganda, If inocent people do get hurt it's unfortunate and the ones who should be blamed for it are Palestinian millitants...
have you ever thaught about getting a job as a comedian?
You've never even been to Israel, and I bet you haven't even met an Israeli soldier... How the fuck would you know what goes down?...TV? Newspaper?...There you have it; propaganda...I-Geezy's opinion is 10 times more valid than yours...He LIVES in Israel; he sees this shit every day...You're 3rd person, you don't know for sure what's going on. Your opinion doesn't mean half as much as his.
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Israel never aim's at inocent people in it's millitary operations unlike Palestinian millitants, saying something like this is Propoganda, If inocent people do get hurt it's unfortunate and the ones who should be blamed for it are Palestinian millitants...
have you ever thaught about getting a job as a comedian?
You've never even been to Israel, and I bet you haven't even met an Israeli soldier... How the fuck would you know what goes down?...TV? Newspaper?...There you have it; propaganda...I-Geezy's opinion is 10 times more valid than yours...He LIVES in Israel; he sees this shit every day...You're 3rd person, you don't know for sure what's going on. Your opinion doesn't mean half as much as his.
And one more thing now that NIK reminded me, U have no idea how high the moral awareness in the Israeli army is, I can tell you this from inside, at every chance soldiers recieve lectures and orations on how it is important to charish human life, human honor, and property even in times of war when the soldiers' Life in endangered....This is what an Israeli Soldier pledge's upon....Unlike those so called worriors for liberty that pledge upon blood, and promiss to their nation to kill as many Israelis as they can...
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Israel never aim's at inocent people in it's millitary operations unlike Palestinian millitants, saying something like this is Propoganda, If inocent people do get hurt it's unfortunate and the ones who should be blamed for it are Palestinian millitants...
have you ever thaught about getting a job as a comedian?
You've never even been to Israel, and I bet you haven't even met an Israeli soldier... How the fuck would you know what goes down?...TV? Newspaper?...There you have it; propaganda...I-Geezy's opinion is 10 times more valid than yours...He LIVES in Israel; he sees this shit every day...You're 3rd person, you don't know for sure what's going on. Your opinion doesn't mean half as much as his.
and don't u think being israeli would make him biast? his national pride isn't going to influence him in anyway? and you being jewish isn't going to influence your decission? whereas me i'm just a third party who has no affiliation to either side should be able to come up with a balanced view, i geezy can only give israels point of view.
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Israel never aim's at inocent people in it's millitary operations unlike Palestinian millitants, saying something like this is Propoganda, If inocent people do get hurt it's unfortunate and the ones who should be blamed for it are Palestinian millitants...
have you ever thaught about getting a job as a comedian?
You've never even been to Israel, and I bet you haven't even met an Israeli soldier... How the fuck would you know what goes down?...TV? Newspaper?...There you have it; propaganda...I-Geezy's opinion is 10 times more valid than yours...He LIVES in Israel; he sees this shit every day...You're 3rd person, you don't know for sure what's going on. Your opinion doesn't mean half as much as his.
And one more thing now that NIK reminded me, U have no idea how high the moral awareness in the Israeli army is, I can tell you this from inside, at every chance soldiers recieve lectures and orations on how it is important to charish human life, human honor, and property even in times of war when the soldiers' Life in endangered....This is what an Israeli Soldier pledge's upon....Unlike those so called worriors for liberty that pledge upon blood, and promiss to their nation to kill as many Israelis as they can...
so distroying farms and schools and killing children they are infact cherishing human life or does your country not count palestinians as humans? these hams rockets have killed what 3 people over 3 months in one week israel killed like 100 palestinians most of them were civilians.
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Your posts are all bullshit...YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES DOWN. YOU GET YOUR OPINION FROM NEWSPAPERS, TV, INTERNET, WHEREVER IT MAY BE...Almost everyone is biased, and whether or not I-Geezy is, his opinion still holds much more weight than yours...It's like Stanley Kubrick telling Stephen King that Jack Torrence was trying to kill his wife because she actually cheated on him...Just quit it, you don't know what you're talking about...PeAcE
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Your posts are all bullshit...YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES DOWN. YOU GET YOUR OPINION FROM NEWSPAPERS, TV, INTERNET, WHEREVER IT MAY BE...Almost everyone is biased, and whether or not I-Geezy is, his opinion still holds much more weight than yours...It's like Stanley Kubrick telling Stephen King that Jack Torrence was trying to kill his wife because she actually cheated on him...Just quit it, you don't know what you're talking about...PeAcE
Does a wrong opinion hold more weight than a truthful one?
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Your posts are all bullshit...YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES DOWN. YOU GET YOUR OPINION FROM NEWSPAPERS, TV, INTERNET, WHEREVER IT MAY BE...Almost everyone is biased, and whether or not I-Geezy is, his opinion still holds much more weight than yours...It's like Stanley Kubrick telling Stephen King that Jack Torrence was trying to kill his wife because she actually cheated on him...Just quit it, you don't know what you're talking about...PeAcE
Does a wrong opinion hold more weight than a truthful one?
An opinion is an opinion...Muthafuckers keep talking about how propaganda brainwashes people to be pro-Israel...This proves otherwise...This fool bases his opinions on what the media shows him, and he's anti-Israel...Go figure.
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If an opinion is an opinion, then I to the Geezys opinion is just as equal to Don Rizzles in the weight they hold, no?
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If an opinion is an opinion, then I to the Geezys opinion is just as equal to Don Rizzles in the weight they hold, no?
An opinion is an opinion, but some opinions might be more valid...
Who's opinion is more valid when it comes to movies, Roger Ebert or some dork off the streets?...Who's opinion is more valid when it comes to advice, a therapist or some dumb bitch who dropped out of elementry school?...An opinion is an opinion, but some opinions carry more weight...PeACe
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If an opinion is an opinion, then I to the Geezys opinion is just as equal to Don Rizzles in the weight they hold, no?
An opinion is an opinion, but some opinions might be more valid...
Who's opinion is more valid when it comes to movies, Roger Ebert or some dork off the streets?...Who's opinion is more valid when it comes to advice, a therapist or some dumb bitch who dropped out of elementry school?...An opinion is an opinion, but some opinions carry more weight...PeACe
the validity of an argument is the degree of factual correctness. The degree of truth. Thus, if what Don Rizzle is sayin is the truth and can be proving as such, then his opinion is more valid. You cannot compare skilled workers to I to the Geezy. Just because he lives there doesnt mean he knows better,
Anybody whose in college/university need to study OG Plato. That man had some techniques when he was arguing, breaks a motherfuckers opinions down till they start contradicting. Fabulous stuff really,
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Your posts are all bullshit...YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES DOWN. YOU GET YOUR OPINION FROM NEWSPAPERS, TV, INTERNET, WHEREVER IT MAY BE...Almost everyone is biased, and whether or not I-Geezy is, his opinion still holds much more weight than yours...It's like Stanley Kubrick telling Stephen King that Jack Torrence was trying to kill his wife because she actually cheated on him...Just quit it, you don't know what you're talking about...PeAcE
Does a wrong opinion hold more weight than a truthful one?
I know you're asking NIK but I'll answer you too, an Opinion is an Opinion it's bound to reflect personal views by it's defenition, it means that THERE IS NO objective opinion. For instance when Don Rizzle makes a statement Like "3 Israeli cevillians(well yea children as well) were killed from Kasam missiles, but like 200 Palestinians were killed during the operation in Gaza" you CAN see the bias, let's see what I can get out of his statement> What was the amount of Shderot Citizents (the town that was bombed....it's just 9 KM from where I live, I used to go to a school that is now being bombed over there) that launched missiles aiming to kill Palestinian Citizents?....-I'll answer it- NONE.
How many active terrorists ARE there in the Palestinian authority, or (for that metter-) WERE before the operation started?!- Trust me much much more than 200,(hey it's even more than a 1000 ;))....The porblem is that u don't know and you rush to present them as inocent citizents.
which side killed more inocent citizents on purpose?- so yes, it is quite obvious that if a 15 year old girl walks towards a deployment of Israeli soldiers and after being yelled at she throwes her bag off,( I mean with such precedents, tell me, what are they suppose to think, have we forgot the amount of little boys that have exploded on soldiers in the past?) SHE WILL GET SHOT, do you know the rules on ingagement Don? cause I do, and this is kinda IT, yea it doesn't make it OK, but a war is a war. The main problem with the Palestinian population is that the wide support of terrorism can result in many unexpected atacks even by children and women, it has happent in the past....my point is that Israel is doing everything it can so inocent people won't get hurt, we don't need that, so to answer the question, yea The Palestinians were the ones to kill more inocent citizents on purpose.
p.s yes, I think you're right by saying that I can only bring you the Israeli point of view, but that is not because Im an Israeli, that's because that's what I conclude from what I see, If I was a Japanese tourist observing the same, I would conclude exactly the same...One thing I can say for sure is that I see much more than you see, yes-Only for the simple reason Im IN THIS MESS, right here right now, I don't have to open the TV to feel it, I can simply go outside and get on public transportation, and there you go(btw....Your local "news" may also concentrate on other problems, our "news" are on it 24/7) , For you it's like a hobby, you open the TV than convey an opinion about it, and than you go to the forum to express it, for me it's a question of life (or death).
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If an opinion is an opinion, then I to the Geezys opinion is just as equal to Don Rizzles in the weight they hold, no?
An opinion is an opinion, but some opinions might be more valid...
Who's opinion is more valid when it comes to movies, Roger Ebert or some dork off the streets?...Who's opinion is more valid when it comes to advice, a therapist or some dumb bitch who dropped out of elementry school?...An opinion is an opinion, but some opinions carry more weight...PeACe
the validity of an argument is the degree of factual correctness. The degree of truth. Thus, if what Don Rizzle is sayin is the truth and can be proving as such, then his opinion is more valid. You cannot compare skilled workers to I to the Geezy. Just because he lives there doesnt mean he knows better,
Anybody whose in college/university need to study OG Plato. That man had some techniques when he was arguing, breaks a motherfuckers opinions down till they start contradicting. Fabulous stuff really,
The "factual correctness" is incorrect...He's claiming shit he heard on TV; he has no idea what he's saying...He has no proof, no evidence...NOTHING.
I-Geezy lives this shit...I'd take his word over Don Rizzles ANY fuckin' day of the week.
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congratulations Sharon :-X >:( :-\