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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: +[=PHI@SK0=]+ on September 17, 2002, 06:10:26 PM
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Just thought you guys would think it was interesting that Snoop was on the cover of the Wallstreet Journal today. Ya'll should check it out. It talks about a bunch of different stuff about him, its a big article... I dont visit this section often but ya'll know that he quit smoking bud right??? Anyways, I knew that already, but it talks about that in this article too aswell as other stuff.... PZ!
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lol...
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Mark My Words: Snoop is gonna be HUGE. His doggystyle days were nothing, this guys gonna be as big as Mike was. He's got his paws in so much stuff, he's gonna take it all over, man. It might be 10 years from now, but eventually, Snoop is gonna turn into an icon like Elvis, he's gonna go down as one of the most famous people of the 21st century, like Elvis Presley or something.
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Snoop Dogg iz the Michael Jackson of Rap
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Snoop Dogg iz the Michael Jackson of Rap
Word.....shit most 80 year olds know who Snoop is......I bet if u went around and asked ppl. that didnt look like they knew alot of stuff about rap to name 1 rapper Snoop would be who most of em would say......hes just everywhere......he was on top when rap first started to gain airplay........and he is still doggystylin' in this game........
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Mark My Words: Snoop is gonna be HUGE. His doggystyle days were nothing, this guys gonna be as big as Mike was. He's got his paws in so much stuff, he's gonna take it all over, man. It might be 10 years from now, but eventually, Snoop is gonna turn into an icon like Elvis, he's gonna go down as one of the most famous people of the 21st century, like Elvis Presley or something.
ya.... he's already an icon for some... so the 10 years might be for the movies, another clin eastwood or some lol, no seriously, he's already too dawm bigg in the rap game, ya'll can't deny that
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snoop the michael jackson of rap...sure LMAO....you can jump of snoops dick any secon now
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Mark My Words: Snoop is gonna be HUGE. His doggystyle days were nothing, this guys gonna be as big as Mike was. He's got his paws in so much stuff, he's gonna take it all over, man. It might be 10 years from now, but eventually, Snoop is gonna turn into an icon like Elvis, he's gonna go down as one of the most famous people of the 21st century, like Elvis Presley or something.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Wow... well, he already is in my mind. But it's cool you said all that about him. I like how you said, "he's got his paws on so many things" lmao.
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well i do gotta say, snoop is one of the most accomplished rappers in the game if not the most. Heres a list of just what I can think of...
- 5 official albums + 1 on the way (doggystyle, doggfather, gameistobesold, topdogg, lastmeal, paidcosttobeboss)
- Who knows how many unofficial albums such as Dead Man Walkin'.
- A grip of other albums he's either on or was a part of making such as Doggystyle Allstars. He also has one of the largest listes of unreleased music and music he's featured on.
- Accomplished actor starring in and producing his own movies.
- His own porno.
- His own car (Snoop Deville).
- For those that don't know, he was right about to make his own theme park, but I dont know whatever happend to that idea.
- His own label with his own artists under him.
- His own clothing line (that Sccit loves wearing oh so much, lol).
- He's even produced some beats for those that don't know.
- He's even been pretty diversed in some of his music by collaboriting with like Redhotchilipeppers live, collaborating with rage against the machine, methods of mayham, ICP, and he's on the reggae shit, with Barrington Levy. I'm sure he's got some stuff in other Genres I dont know about or haven't heard yet.
- He got on the cover of the washington fucking mutual. Now not everyone can do that. He's prolly the first rapper to even get in the washington mutual.
- Gotta give it up to him for quitting drugs. You know that musta been hard on him. I'll say that as on accomplishment even tho its a personal one of his.
Basically, the dude is doing thangs, and he will be remembered. I dont know about no Elvis Presley status, it depends how rap is looked at 50 years from now tho. But now that I think about it, Elvis in his day was looked at pretty badly and negativly, like parents wouldn't let there kids listen to him cuz they thot he was the devil and shit (aint that funny), same with KISS when they came along. Anyways, what do ya'll think??? I really have no clue or even idea if he will be an idol years from now, but I can tell you that LBCsnoop was right, you ask anybody who doesn't know about rap about a rapper and they'll automatically say "SNOOP DOGGY DOGG". PZ!
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I love wearing Snoop Dogg Clothing? Quit tryna clown Sean Jean man...I wear Outkast more than anything...
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I got like two Sean John outfits, I sport Ecko more than anything. I'm just saying that cause whenever I see you, you got that cheap ass looking Snoop Dogg jean outfit from burlington with the faded t-shirt from the machine wash.
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Oh yeah I forgot, he also had his own radio show on Power106 down in LA, and he's comin' out with his own show on MTV. So just add that shit to the previous list. Homie is doing thangz!
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we can rename this thread "the official snoop dogg dick ridders thread" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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How the hell do you guys think that Snoop is the biggest thing in hip-hop?
Eminem is way bigger than him, along with Jay-Z.
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they're more famous than snoop... i dont believe that he's gonna become like elvis like those other people said... i just said he's one of the most accomplished, as u can see from my list. PZ!
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+ link=board=general;num=1032322226;start=0#10 date=09/24/02 at 00:52:15]I got like two Sean John outfits, I sport Ecko more than anything. I'm just saying that cause whenever I see you, you got that cheap ass looking Snoop Dogg jean outfit from burlington with the faded t-shirt from the machine wash.
First off...uve only seen me like 3 times...LoL
Second off, Burlington is the BEST place for Hip Hop clothes...WTF are u even hollerin about? Everyone I know shops at Burlington...Why dont u go check out Burlington... They have a HUGE selection of Hip Hop clothing; from Ecko, to Sean Jean, to basically anything...Quit tryna clown with that tongue ring in your chin...
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I think snoop wont stop his music career....he can put out album when he wants,he could be a "funk man" like bootsy collins.
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can someone post that cover of the wall street journal?
and if ne one wants to read it i can paste the article. i found it online
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can someone post that cover of the wall street journal?
and if ne one wants to read it i can paste the article. i found it online
Past the article cuz i cant find it online.
Thanks if u wanna paste it! ;)
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September 16, 2002
Suddenly No Longer Top Dog,
Snoop Dogg Reinvents Himself
By JENNIFER ORDONEZ
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
How does an aging rapper reinvent himself?
Calvin Broadus, who is known to his many fans as Snoop Dogg, hit his peak in the mid-1990s. Now, he is back with projects ranging from making porno movies and heading a new record label, to appearing on television with the Muppets.
Crucial to all of this: a new image. Mr. Broadus says he no longer identifies so strongly with the lifestyle that helped him pioneer West Coast rap, which is heavy with references to the violent world of street gangs.
So Snoop Dogg, original gangsta, is now Snoop Dogg, "pimp." By pimp he means, "feeling good, dressing good, and no one's stepping on your alligator shoes." His music these days is a more-melodic blend of rap with rhythm-and-blues ballads and '70s-throwback funk.
Mr. Broadus's change of direction is rooted in practicality. "You got to be who you are, when you are," says the 30-year-old millionaire from Long Beach who now lives in a mansion in a quiet Los Angeles suburb called Diamond Bar. "It's just me getting older," he says.
One of the first rappers to cross over to mainstream audiences, he has sold nearly 14 million copies of his recordings in the U.S. His first solo album, 1993's "Doggystyle," was the start of what, in rap years, would be an extraordinarily long reign at the top. The album, released on Los Angeles rap impresario Marion "Suge" Knight's label, Death Row Records, has sold 5.5 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen Soundscan.
Mr. Broadus's most recent solo album, "Tha Last Meal," which came out in 2000, sold a relatively disappointing two million copies in the U.S. And West Coast rap -- which is slower and funkier and makes greater use of gang imagery than East Coast rap -- has all but disappeared from the charts.
Its decline in part was precipitated by the unsolved murders in 1996 and 1997 of rappers Tupac Shakur and Christopher Wallace ("Notorious B.I.G."), and the five-year imprisonment of Mr. Knight for violating his probation after an assault conviction. Infighting among some of the genre's pioneers left a dearth of promising new artists and a number of disillusioned fans.
Some rap artists took their money and moved to gated communities in the suburbs. Mr. Knight, who earlier this year returned to running his record label, claims to have had a spiritual rebirth in prison. Andre "Dr. Dre" Young, also part of the original clan, became a producer for the next generation of rap stars, including Detroit's Eminem.
Today, Mr. Broadus says he has changed his life. A fervent proponent of legalizing marijuana, Mr. Broadus for many years was rarely seen, in public or private, without a joint somewhere nearby. Now, he says, he has given up smoking pot in order to set an example for his employees and his three young children.
"Middle-America would rather me be pimping than gang-banging," he says, using a slang term for gang violence. But with a career based on gangsta credibility, he has to tread carefully. Charisma and a quick sense of humor were big parts of his appeal. But he is also an avowed Crip gang member. More than a decade ago, he served time on drug charges, and in 1996 he was acquitted of murder charges. His rap sheet made him more appealing to suburban teenagers looking for a real gangsta to spend their money on. "The reason he's been around this long is that people know he's really lived the s-t he's talking about," says James Peterson, who has taught courses in hip-hop culture at Swarthmore, University of Pennsylvania and elsewhere. "As sad as it sounds, it's essential."
Still, at an age when most people are just getting their professional bearings, Mr. Broadus feels boxed in, he says. "People look at me as a legend in the game. But I'm still young."
It's why he says he's going "from an underboss to a boss." Since 1998, Mr. Broadus has been on Priority Records, a well-known rap label owned by EMI Group PLC. The label has gone through steep cutbacks and recently was folded into the company's Capitol Records label. With one record left under his deal with Priority, Mr. Broadus says he started looking for a new partner that would give him more financial and creative control over his own projects. He signed a deal with MCA, a unit of Vivendi Universal SA, in August 2001, which gives him his own label -- Doggystyle Records -- and a budget for developing new artists, whose recordings he will own. Under the deal, he has access to the marketing, promotion and distribution channels of Universal Music, the music industry's market-share leader.
Mr. Broadus's porno films have different backing, from Hustler Video, for instance, but MCA plans to distribute less-racy video features by Mr. Broadus's Snoopadelic Films unit that are to be released on DVD in tandem with Doggystyle's albums.
Beyond that, he is auditioning for roles in feature films. So far Mr. Broadus's movie work has received mixed reviews. He was praised for a chilling performance as an ex-con in 2000's "Baby Boy" and as a wheelchair-bound drug dealer in last year's hit film "Training Day." But when he starred as a vengeance-seeking ghost pimp in last year's "Bones," the film tanked.
Among his most-profitable cinematic ventures to date is "Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle," winner of several adult-film-industry awards. In that movie, shot at his home, Mr. Broadus narrates as actors have sex. The scenes are interspersed with new Snoop Dogg music videos, which expose his musical artistry to a new audience.
"It's all done in good taste," he says. And it has made him some new friends. He was invited, for instance, to the Playboy mansion, where he hobnobbed with Hugh Hefner. "It's good for him to be hanging with that caliber of people that are real businessmen, instead of on the streets," a member of his security detail said the next morning.
Pimp references have been an element of Mr. Broadus's past projects. He actually did some pimping for a while, he says, but has given it up. In recent years, the imagery that surrounds soliciting business for prostitutes -- long mink coats, coordinated satin suits and scantily clad women -- has become a staple of pop-culture kitsch. And Mr. Broadus is embracing it.
He recently took delivery of the first "Snoop DeVille," a customized "pimp-mobile," with multiple TV screens and seats lined in mink. Another symbol of the new image: personalized, rhinestone-encrusted goblets that he drinks from in all public appearances, an affectation meant to suggest wealth and privilege.
Mr. Broadus works with a small team of advisers. Stephen Barnes, his lawyer, handles the bulk of business negotiations, which have helped Mr. Broadus land a steady stream of movie parts and product-endorsements for Nike and XM Satellite Radio, among others. Ted Chung, a 25-year-old graduate of the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania, handles the label business.
Also guiding Mr. Broadus is the actual "retired" pimp Bishop Don Magic Juan. The Bishop, who says he gave up pimping years ago when he became a Christian, is part spiritual guide, part cheerleader, and part accoutrement for Mr. Broadus as he adopts "the pimp aesthetic."
Mr. Broadus has watched a parade of younger rappers trade on style and language he pioneered. In Snoop Dogg parlance, for example, "for sure," becomes "fa shizzle." He is now trying to create a new "pimpish" vernacular. One word that Mr. Broadus is trying to popularize is "chuuch," derived from the word "church." It is intended as a multipurpose affirmation of something good.
"There are all these little cultural nuances that Snoop knows are going to be hot," says his adviser Mr. Chung.
Mr. Chung has tried to help steer Mr. Broadus away from a "West Coast" sound to music he hopes will resonate more widely. Songs on the rapper's final solo album on his old label, to be released in November, will have R&B and, on one song, Middle Eastern-sounding influences.
"The globalization of the business is also reflected in the globalization of art. Just sticking to West Coast gangsta rap, you're not going to win," says Mr. Chung, who moves easily from street lingo to more formal business discourse, depending on his audience.
The branding side is a work in progress. When his Snoop Dogg Clothing Co. apparel line first hit stores two years ago, it sold poorly. Styles were "too urban-gang influenced," says Michael Cohen, president of MSC Licensing, Mr. Broadus's licensing agent in New York. "I need to have him as commercially acceptable as possible."
Mr. Broadus protested at first. "I wanted my s-t to be Cripping and gang-banging," he says, although he eventually agreed to changes including more sweaters and football jerseys. "It has to be like that in stores like Macy's and Robinsons May."
Since then, Randy Heil, men's fashion director at Macy's West, a unit of Federated Department Stores Inc., says Mr. Broadus's strong regional appeal has been a big selling point for the department store, which has expanded the line to 28 of its stores west of the Mississippi, up from just a handful in the beginning. But Mr. Heil says there are limits to what the retail chain will get behind: "We might do a tailored clothing line with Snoop, but would they be marketed at Macy's as pimp suits?" he says. "Absolutely not."
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heres the rest...
Jim Henson Co., meanwhile, doesn't see Mr. Broadus in any way as a problem. The company is looking to the rapper to help make its Muppets seem hip again in a 2002 Christmas special, "A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie," to run on NBC. In his scene, Mr. Broadus banters in his signature language with straight-laced Kermit the Frog, who "rolls it off his tongue very naturally," says Charles Rivkin, president and chief executive of the company. "The Muppets are a pop-culture icon, and Snoop is a pop-culture icon, as well. ... The bottom line is we respect him a lot as an artist."
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Thanks a lot Gfunklbc! ;)