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Title: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 05, 2004, 01:24:33 PM
I'm planning on watching.

My guess is it will be an Edwards victory, but does anyone really place their votes in accordance with the VP?
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Rampant on October 05, 2004, 01:29:19 PM
Unless there is something seriously wrong with a VP (i mean serious)

its not going to affect the vote at all. I dont plan on watching it.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: tommyilromano on October 05, 2004, 01:56:53 PM
Cheney is a political veteran and his debating skills are unmatched. I disagree with him on much but he is excellent at getting his point across.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: eS El Duque on October 05, 2004, 01:59:36 PM
i think cheney might pull an upset.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: white Boy on October 05, 2004, 01:59:58 PM
^then i guess ill have to peep this.. plus.. it really doesnt change my opinion that much.. but i just like watch high stakes debates
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: 7even on October 05, 2004, 02:05:27 PM
Cheney is such a bastard, it's sickening. Exactly anyone who places that Dick above Edwards must have serious mental problems. But as I understand Bush voters, they dont give a fuck what the Bush administration does. Sounds weird, is weird. But seriously, I think a high amount of Bush-Supporters would vote for Bush again NO MATTER WHAT THE HELL HE/CHENEY/ANYONE ELSE says during these debates.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 05, 2004, 03:09:58 PM
Luckily, since you live in a third world country, your opinion, thoughts, existance, life, etc. doesn't matter one fucking iota on this entire topic.

Yeah, I'll be watching the debate, I'm recording it... this will definately be interesting, becuase Edwards is a very smooth talker, and Cheney is a total asshole, so it'll be neat to see how that clashes.  I think it's going to be dirty. 
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Entreri117 on October 05, 2004, 03:40:35 PM
i think cheney might pull an upset.

An UPSET??  You must be joking...

Cheney has Edwards' ass OWNED.  Dick has infinite political experience compared to Edwards.

Dick Cheney is gonna rip John Edwards a new asshole tonight...just you watch.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: 7even on October 05, 2004, 03:44:25 PM
Luckily, since you live in a third world country, your opinion, thoughts, existance, life, etc. doesn't matter one fucking iota on this entire topic.

Yeah, I'll be watching the debate, I'm recording it... this will definately be interesting, becuase Edwards is a very smooth talker, and Cheney is a total asshole, so it'll be neat to see how that clashes.  I think it's going to be dirty. 

Luckily, you admit that Im right... psychologically seen. Germany a third world country my ass - talking about ignorance - again - you're doing good this week. I just think it's very sad that you going to vote Bush no matter what happens.. and youre not even a dumb ass.. that's the saddest part of it.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Entreri117 on October 05, 2004, 03:49:51 PM
Luckily, since you live in a third world country, your opinion, thoughts, existance, life, etc. doesn't matter one fucking iota on this entire topic.

Yeah, I'll be watching the debate, I'm recording it... this will definately be interesting, becuase Edwards is a very smooth talker, and Cheney is a total asshole, so it'll be neat to see how that clashes.  I think it's going to be dirty. 

Luckily, you admit that Im right... psychologically seen. Germany a third world country my ass - talking about ignorance - again - you're doing good this week. I just think it's very sad that you going to vote Bush no matter what happens.. and youre not even a dumb ass.. that's the saddest part of it.

Speaking of new assholes being ripped...  :o
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 05, 2004, 04:05:49 PM
Luckily, since you live in a third world country, your opinion, thoughts, existance, life, etc. doesn't matter one fucking iota on this entire topic.


Yours does but yours sucks, while his is the truth.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Rampant on October 05, 2004, 05:03:41 PM
while germany isnt a third world country, there no america.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 05, 2004, 05:44:12 PM
I'm watching it. I will be very happy if it pulls huge ratings like last weeks election.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Rampant on October 05, 2004, 06:19:33 PM
its been 20 minutes.

Cheney is killing edwards.....badly.

Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on October 05, 2004, 06:39:04 PM
Cheney really does look like a pro.  Edwards is young, tan, and not bald, but that seems like all he has going for him (at least through 40 minutes. The difference seems like when they bring up past events, (vietnam, desert storm) cheney is much more educated on these subjects, as he was there, and just seems like he has a better grasp of them.  Everytime Edwards speaks on these events, cheney schools him.  Edwards also looks a bit flustered from time to time - interrupting cheney, smirking when cheney calls him out, etc.  I'd like to see cheney vs. kerry. That may be the best debate we would see.  Looking forward to hour #2...
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 05, 2004, 06:51:25 PM
Man Edwards is getting killed here, especially when Cheney pointed out Edwards has been call "Senator Not There" (or something like that) and that he missed 33 out of 36 meetings ( :o).
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 05, 2004, 06:53:13 PM
Man Edwards is getting killed here, especially when Cheney pointed out Edwards has been call "Senator Not There" (or something like that) and that he missed 33 out of 36 meetings ( :o).

Did you hear Edward's response to that statement though? How Cheny voted against things like Meals on Wheels, Head Start and MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY?

IMO Edward's whooped ass on that rebuttal.

The rest of the debate has been going towards Cheny's side though.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 05, 2004, 06:59:35 PM
Man Edwards is getting killed here, especially when Cheney pointed out Edwards has been call "Senator Not There" (or something like that) and that he missed 33 out of 36 meetings ( :o).

Did you hear Edward's response to that statement though? How Cheny voted against things like Meals on Wheels, Head Start and MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY?

IMO Edward's whooped ass on that rebuttal.

The rest of the debate has been going towards Cheny's side though.

I'll agree, but at least Cheney showed up. I'll have to look it up, Edwards has been making up shit up for a while. How come we haven't heard this before?
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on October 05, 2004, 07:18:36 PM
Yeah, when you think about it, i guess cheney is kinda edwards boss.  And he was chastising edwards for blowing off work. And edwards did have a good rebuttal, and i didn't hear cheney argue about voting against MLK day, (which, imo, is crazy) and everything else, BUT, how in the hell can edwards diss him for his votes, BUT HE MISSED 33 OF 36 votes? Cheney said he has never met Edwards until tonight, and they have senate meetings EVERY TUESDAY?!? Thats pretty shitty. 
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 05, 2004, 07:41:32 PM
Ok, I gotta say I was impressed by Cheney, I've never realized how good a speaker he is. I would rather have seen Cheney and Edwards as the Presidential candidates, both are far better than their counterparts.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Woodrow on October 05, 2004, 07:46:28 PM
I'm watching it. I will be very happy if it pulls huge ratings like last weeks election.
Me too! Edwards just got owned, and the more people that saw that the better.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 05, 2004, 08:18:22 PM
Yeah, Cheny did make Edwards his son for the most part. This debate won't have any effect on either party though. I'm looking forward to the next presidential debate.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: eS El Duque on October 05, 2004, 08:27:50 PM
Cheney made up for Bush's dumbass ;D

Well, my prediction was right!

2-0 w00t!
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 05, 2004, 08:33:25 PM
I'm looking forward to the next presidential debate.

I am, but unfortunately the bastards at work put me on the schedule for Friday. Does anyone know what sites put it online afterwards?
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 05, 2004, 09:22:57 PM
I'm not sure about the videos, but you can get the transcripts off a variety of sites.

http://www.debates.org/
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 05, 2004, 09:35:44 PM
I'm not sure about the videos, but you can get the transcripts off a variety of sites.

http://www.debates.org/

Ok, thanks. I know my friend watched it online last week, being in the same predicament as I. I'll have to ask him. That transcript site will be useful as well, thanks.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 05, 2004, 11:07:33 PM
Man, Cheney just calmy and cooly took John Edwards and John Kerry apart piece by piece.  It was almost disgusting. 

That line where he said

"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session.

The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight."


was just devastating. 
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Rampant on October 06, 2004, 12:50:05 PM
I was extremly impressed with how cheney debated. I always assumed he was a horrible speaker, but after watching this i have a new respect for him.

I liked how when edwards would say something, cheney would immediatly pull figures and stats right out of his head. He very knowledgeable with whats going on.

Edwards i kind of figured would be like that. I never thought he was a good "politician", and i now believe that even more.

EDIT: OMFG im so pissed off right now. On CNN.com they had a poll. "Who do you think won the debate"

63% said edwards. out of about 150,000 people. Who is that stupid to think edwards won. Im guessing that most of those people were democrats just supporting their side.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 06, 2004, 03:20:56 PM
I was extremly impressed with how cheney debated. I always assumed he was a horrible speaker, but after watching this i have a new respect for him.

I liked how when edwards would say something, cheney would immediatly pull figures and stats right out of his head. He very knowledgeable with whats going on.

Edwards i kind of figured would be like that. I never thought he was a good "politician", and i now believe that even more.

EDIT: OMFG im so pissed off right now. On CNN.com they had a poll. "Who do you think won the debate"

63% said edwards. out of about 150,000 people. Who is that stupid to think edwards won. Im guessing that most of those people were democrats just supporting their side.

That's because he held his own in the debate.Cheny kicked Edward's boyish looking ass at the beginning of the debate, but Edwards finished very strong at the end and a strong finish is what people remember in the end. I saw another poll (cant remember where) that said Edwards won with 58% as well.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Machiavelli on October 06, 2004, 03:57:53 PM


EDIT: OMFG im so pissed off right now. On CNN.com they had a poll. "Who do you think won the debate"

63% said edwards. out of about 150,000 people. Who is that stupid to think edwards won. Im guessing that most of those people were democrats just supporting their side.

That's because he held his own in the debate.Cheny kicked Edward's boyish looking ass at the beginning of the debate, but Edwards finished very strong at the end and a strong finish is what people remember in the end. I saw another poll (cant remember where) that said Edwards won with 58% as well.

Quit looking at polls from biased news sources. Also, Rampant know shit CNN had a poll that said 63% thought Edwards :D CNN along with the New York Times are one(s) of the most Liberal biased news organazations out there.


Anyways, Dick cleary won

Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 06, 2004, 04:01:48 PM
CNN along with the New York Times are one(s) of the most Liberal biased news organazations out there.

LMAO!! You're kidding me right?
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 06, 2004, 04:05:59 PM

CNN along with the New York Times are one(s) of the most Liberal biased news organazations out there.

LOL! They're only liberal when their polls disagree with your views, right?
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Rampant on October 06, 2004, 04:43:49 PM
i thought dumbass left?

O my bad i didnt notice the poll on CNN only polled workers for CNN. God sometimes i can be so stupid.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Woodrow on October 06, 2004, 08:21:54 PM
CNN along with the New York Times are one(s) of the most Liberal biased news organazations out there.

LMAO!! You're kidding me right?
He's 100% correct about the New York times.

http://www.yale.edu/isps/seminars/american_pol/groseclose.pdf
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 06, 2004, 08:33:45 PM
CNN along with the New York Times are one(s) of the most Liberal biased news organazations out there.

LMAO!! You're kidding me right?
He's 100% correct about the New York times.

http://www.yale.edu/isps/seminars/american_pol/groseclose.pdf


Maybe NY Times, I'm not familiar with that.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on October 07, 2004, 09:14:39 PM
Maybe Lincoln you have NY Times confused NY Post, theyre the conservative bunch. Murdochs group, they iz mate,.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Lincoln on October 08, 2004, 08:13:20 AM
Maybe Lincoln you have NY Times confused NY Post, theyre the conservative bunch. Murdochs group, they iz mate,.

To be honest, I'm not familiar with either publication. I was mainly laughing at him saying that CNN was liberal biased.
Title: Re: Watching the VP debate tonight?
Post by: Machiavelli on October 11, 2004, 03:09:14 PM
I was mainly laughing at him saying that CNN was liberal biased.

http://www.earstohear.net/media.html