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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Rizzle on October 25, 2004, 04:49:47 AM

Title: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Don Rizzle on October 25, 2004, 04:49:47 AM
last month we were told loads of iraq's nuclear equiptment went missing and today we hear 350 tonnes of explosives have gone missing too. i was just wondering do they send ivitations to terrorists or what?
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Thirteen on October 25, 2004, 06:37:59 AM
sabotage, we're probably hoping that the terrorists use those items in an attack so we can get more countries on our side, but so far the other countries have acted weak
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on October 25, 2004, 06:50:20 AM


because the terrorists arent fighting fair old chap.. they're being sneaky instead of driving up in tanks of their own for a fair fight!.. tally ho!
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Thirteen on October 25, 2004, 07:02:11 AM


because the terrorists arent fighting fair old chap.. they're being sneaky instead of driving up in tanks of their own for a fair fight!.. tally ho!

even if they are sneaking around... if america wanted to protect those things, alot of security would be placed around it... everyone knows they'll have a hard time getting 380 tons of explosives and some nuclear equipment to america...all the other land masses around there should worry though
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 25, 2004, 07:07:14 AM
It's because America is only interested in the Oil.  They don't care about the lives of the people over there, so securing facilities isn't a top concern. 
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on October 25, 2004, 07:59:43 AM


because the terrorists arent fighting fair old chap.. they're being sneaky instead of driving up in tanks of their own for a fair fight!.. tally ho!

even if they are sneaking around... if america wanted to protect those things, alot of security would be placed around it... everyone knows they'll have a hard time getting 380 tons of explosives and some nuclear equipment to america...all the other land masses around there should worry though

uhh.. no they shouldnt!

the people that should worry are the americans.. they're the enemy... all invading iraq has done is shift the target the terrorists want to hit closer to the the terrorists.

is america safe? yes. safer than at the time of 911? who knows.

are americans, or any other non-muslims (including aid-workers)  in iraq safe? hell no..  people that had been there for years, even under saddam are less safe.





Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 25, 2004, 08:16:47 AM
^ You forgot that we were friends with Saddam and Bin Ladin!!! There's no connection between them, though!!! And, Bush (who's worth 15 million compared to Kerry's 1.7 Billion and Edwards' 100 million) is just there for the Oil!!!  It's a Clusterfuck, it's another Vietnam!!! This is a War Born In Texas!!!
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Thirteen on October 25, 2004, 12:38:30 PM


because the terrorists arent fighting fair old chap.. they're being sneaky instead of driving up in tanks of their own for a fair fight!.. tally ho!

even if they are sneaking around... if america wanted to protect those things, alot of security would be placed around it... everyone knows they'll have a hard time getting 380 tons of explosives and some nuclear equipment to america...all the other land masses around there should worry though

uhh.. no they shouldnt!

the people that should worry are the americans.. they're the enemy... all invading iraq has done is shift the target the terrorists want to hit closer to the the terrorists.

is america safe? yes. safer than at the time of 911? who knows.

are americans, or any other non-muslims (including aid-workers)  in iraq safe? hell no..  people that had been there for years, even under saddam are less safe.


i feel alot more safe, look at the last few major terrorists attacks; russia's school, spain train bombing, those hotels bombed in egypt i think it was....so if americans are the enemies...why aren't we getting attacked as much?
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on October 25, 2004, 03:54:55 PM
those problems are internal to russia.

america would have the same problems if either south america or canadians wanted to terrorise the USA.

Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Thirteen on October 25, 2004, 05:05:00 PM
those problems are internal to russia.

america would have the same problems if either south america or canadians wanted to terrorise the USA.



you're right, the russian one was out of place but the other two attacks weren't

also cnn reported that this 380 ton estimate comes from what Sadaam was believed to have had before the invasion took place, so it's not like it was stolen recently, it just wasn't around
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Woodrow on October 25, 2004, 07:39:58 PM
LOL!

This shit happened before our troops got there
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 25, 2004, 09:58:51 PM
They said the equivelant of 17 tractor trailor trucks full of explosives is missing.  That's pretty scary, but what's more relevant is they've said that the United States has already destroyed the equivalent of 17 THOUSAND tractor trailor trucks full of explosives.  That would be like me having a thousand AK-47's, and losing one.  On top of that, like Woodrow said, this is all stuff that was just supposed to be there, and was reported today (although it's an old story) for political gain. 
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on October 26, 2004, 12:40:41 AM
those problems are internal to russia.

america would have the same problems if either south america or canadians wanted to terrorise the USA.



you're right, the russian one was out of place but the other two attacks weren't

also cnn reported that this 380 ton estimate comes from what Sadaam was believed to have had before the invasion took place, so it's not like it was stolen recently, it just wasn't around

hand on.. rewwwwwwwwindddddddddddddd


who believes anything about what people say saddam had before..

are these explosives hidden with the WMD?  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 26, 2004, 12:46:00 AM
^ That's the whole problem.  They're saying

"We know Saddam had this.......... and now they're not there! They're missing, the U.S. lost them!"


.....   but at the same time, the fact that we were wrong about what Saddam had before, is ALSO being held against us. 

So, they don't believe the reports when it's harmful to us....... and they use the reports as evidence when it can be used to harm us. 

By The Way, the people doing the harming? The Democratic party of the United States of America.  We're not fighting against any outside force (although they're saying it as well)..... our fight, for the honor of our country, is basically with one of our political parties.  The democrats have aligned themselves in such a way that anything that looks bad on America, is good to them, because they can blame it on Bush.  Pretty fucked up if you ask me. 
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Don Rizzle on October 26, 2004, 04:51:53 AM
They said the equivelant of 17 tractor trailor trucks full of explosives is missing.  That's pretty scary, but what's more relevant is they've said that the United States has already destroyed the equivalent of 17 THOUSAND tractor trailor trucks full of explosives.  That would be like me having a thousand AK-47's, and losing one.  On top of that, like Woodrow said, this is all stuff that was just supposed to be there, and was reported today (although it's an old story) for political gain. 
apparently 1 pound of the explosives was used in the the lockerby bombing, 350 tonnes of the stuff into the wrong hands is scary no matter how much america destroyed it doesn't make whats out there any less dangerous.

but if we look at the war, what has actually been achieved?
wide spread looting accross iraq
total disregard of law and order
missing nuclear and other explosive equiptment
thousands of iraqis dead
over 1000 coalition troops dead
constant disruption by insurgents and coalitiion
a huge bill for all involved
increased the gap between middleasten countries and the western world, plus between america and europe both diplomatically and in public opinion
and we still havn't got the infrastructure back to the pre warlevels which weren't exactly good.


oh but we put saddam on trial and killed his sons
and we've released more oil into the market but created more uncertainty and insecurity so the price of oil has actually gone up!
Title: Re: Why can't america secure facilities in iraq?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 26, 2004, 07:43:18 AM
Bush stole all the oil!!!! He's getting rich while America dies!!!! Vote Kerry!!!!! Vote Anybody!!!! pANIC!!!! Despair!!!!!