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Title: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: DAYUM on November 04, 2004, 07:14:42 PM
North Korea and Iran?

thats what one of my teachers were telling me but i never heard this  does anyone have any info or is he just a moron?
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on November 04, 2004, 07:17:10 PM
He ain't a moron, he did his homework. Add Syria 2 the list.....but I dunno if Bush can keep up.
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Post by: Ant on November 04, 2004, 08:12:55 PM
I'm not so sure.  Yes I think Bush in a way wants to do it, but I don't think he can. 

Basically it comes down to this:  does he want to be remembered well by history? 

If he cares about his record he won't.  Also, I think the intelligent republicans won't want him waging more wars because it will just vilify their party even more so. 

I'm expected a 'softer' war on terrorism.  Basically, we will eventually pull out of Iraq, and declare mission accomplished again, probably after they have elections.  The news will stop covering Iraq, and Bush will talk less about Terrorism to make it look as if we 'won' the war. 

Now, on the other hand, if we get attacked again, which is possible.  Then I see us going to war again with Iran, or Syria. 
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Post by: Don Rizzle on November 05, 2004, 03:27:38 PM
even if america isn't attacked again which i believe it will americans will always be attacked abroad as the past couple of years have proved
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: ARYC on November 06, 2004, 04:34:21 AM
"Add Syria 2 the list"

yeah well they deserve it
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: white Boy on November 06, 2004, 04:50:17 AM
i hate it when teachers teach opinions
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: dexter on November 06, 2004, 06:30:25 AM
Iran a good possibility.
Get ready for a Draft fellas
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Fathom on November 06, 2004, 12:48:43 PM
It could happen.  Eliminating the threat in North Korea might be neccesary.
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Post by: Sikx on November 06, 2004, 02:32:07 PM
north korea or iran most likely if any place. id bet my money on n-korea, altho iran is closer to iraq and it's faster to move all those troops there. but i have this picture in my head that n-korea is like 100 times more dangerous place to fight then iraq. no1 really knows whats happening there...
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Thirteen on November 06, 2004, 02:44:12 PM
north korea would be easier, we already have a dozen bases in japan and south korea
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Post by: davida.b. on November 06, 2004, 02:52:58 PM
i hate it when teachers teach opinions

 :sign_werd:
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on November 07, 2004, 09:46:28 AM
Sure, America needs to attack North Korea....after all, you all have to deal with those pesky North-Koreans on a daily basis  ::)
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Post by: Sikotic™ on November 07, 2004, 12:07:25 PM
World War III is right around the corner.
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Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 07, 2004, 08:56:00 PM
north korea would be easier,

Ahh, no.
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Thirteen on November 07, 2004, 08:58:17 PM
north korea would be easier,

Ahh, no.

ahhh yes, they're not on good terms with China, we have bases throughout japan, and south korea with back ups in guam and hawaii plus they're not much of a military force

Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 07, 2004, 09:00:10 PM
Ah, no. Iran would be a cakewalk compared to North Korea, youre delusional if you think N Korea dont have much of a military force
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Thirteen on November 07, 2004, 09:06:44 PM
Ah, no. Iran would be a cakewalk compared to North Korea, youre delusional if you think N Korea dont have much of a military force

you must have been absent when we went though this. iran is in the top ten in military strength world wide, i don't remember seeing N korea at all on the list

here's the numbers

iran:

 Available Military Manpower:
 20,937,348
Annual Military Expediture:
 $4.3 Billion

N Korea

Available Military Manpower:
 6,181,038
Annual Military Expediture:
 $5,217.4 Million
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 07, 2004, 09:59:47 PM
manpower doesn't mean shit when you got nukes.
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Post by: Thirteen on November 07, 2004, 10:03:30 PM
they won't fire any nukes, as soon as the war starts, the country will be watched like a hawk. they launch nukes and they sign their own death wish

all they'll hit is either south korea, japan or china...that action would piss off everyone else in the world and n korea would be stomped out
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Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 07, 2004, 10:16:10 PM
The North Koreans have 4 million standing soldiers, fully trained and on permanent war alert since the fuckin 50s. Theyre not in the beginner stages of this nuclear shit. Theyre fully in. They got a handful of nuclear warheads. Plus, any war would be started by the North Koreans (not including a pre emptive strike by Us planes), and Soeul and the entire half of South Korea would be subjected to disgusting artillery bombardment. Thats before nukes, and before SK/US even responds, Im not saying they would beat the Americans because they wont if it goes all out, but they would fuck yall something nice. Youll knock him out, but youre gettin ribs craked, and broken bones concussions and shit out of it.
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Post by: Thirteen on November 07, 2004, 10:22:38 PM
The North Koreans have 4 million standing soldiers, fully trained and on permanent war alert since the fuckin 50s. Theyre not in the beginner stages of this nuclear shit. Theyre fully in. They got a handful of nuclear warheads. Plus, any war would be started by the North Koreans (not including a pre emptive strike by Us planes), and Soeul and the entire half of South Korea would be subjected to disgusting artillery bombardment. Thats before nukes, and before SK/US even responds, Im not saying they would beat the Americans because they wont if it goes all out, but they would fuck yall something nice. Youll knock him out, but youre gettin ribs craked, and broken bones concussions and shit out of it.

you forgot china's hate of the koreans, a billion man army waiting to stomp on you doesn't look good at all

plus with north koreas shitty position, you can expect a blockade, constant bombardment from attack subs and warships, along with air strikes with only south koreans, chinese and maybe japanese heading up the allied body count

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Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 07, 2004, 10:41:49 PM
Youre living in a fantasy world if you think the Chinese will help you attack the North Koreans. The North Koreans will be able to launch at least 2-3 offensives, men or artillery, they will fuck shit up, again you scums will win in the end, but i dont understand how youre dismissing north korea
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Post by: Sikotic™ on November 07, 2004, 11:30:15 PM
North Koreans have seen this administrations history when it comes to war with other nations. If we invade their nation and try to disarm them of WMD's like we supposedly attempted to do with Iraq, and say we come close to taking control of their nation, who's to say they won't pull the old "Hiroshima/Nagasaki excuse" and shoot off a nuke as a desperation move.

The fact of the matter is, both scenarios could happen-N. Korea could shoot off nukes or they may not- it depends on how you look at things. One thing I believe is that we the US as a nation have enough on our plate, rebuilding two countries, and the last thing we need is to piss off a country with much more military might and nuclear might than we have faced with the past previous wars. I say let's practice diplomacy for a change.
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Post by: tommyilromano on November 07, 2004, 11:30:52 PM
north korea would be easier, we already have a dozen bases in japan and south korea

This post isn't just for you but for all the other "armchair soldiers". I don't want to go to NK or Iran. I am a soldier(USAF) and I really don't see the need. NK is contained why do we need to go to war with them? Iran is just in the early stages of its nuclear program and anyway the US cannot prevent other nations from aquiring nuclear weapons forever. The need for war just isn't there and the US needs to focus on Iraq now anyway.
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: 7even on November 08, 2004, 05:02:11 AM
lmao@ppl thinking america chooses even opponents. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea are all a joke compared to the current US Force.


Home of the Brave.
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Thirteen on November 08, 2004, 07:27:18 AM
lmao@ppl thinking america chooses even opponents. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea are all a joke compared to the current US Force.


Home of the Brave.

if you haven't noticed, all militaries are jokes compared to the US force... one of your very own europeans said all of europe wouldn't even win a war
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Thirteen on November 08, 2004, 07:32:49 AM
Youre living in a fantasy world if you think the Chinese will help you attack the North Koreans. The North Koreans will be able to launch at least 2-3 offensives, men or artillery, they will fuck shit up, again you scums will win in the end, but i dont understand how youre dismissing north korea

with the chinese dislike of north korea, and americas negoitiating skills, i'm sure a deal could be reached...stranger things have happened

and right away, america would take out all ports and airports leaving korea with only ground defense, and attack would come from japan (mostly naval and air strikes, they couldn't go china's way, and ground forces would come up through s korea...

and as soon as korea even tried to launch a nuclear attack, china would attack....so even the though of them using nuclear weapons is suicide
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Post by: 7even on November 08, 2004, 07:38:02 AM
^^^the nuke thingy is a fairy tale anyway. like if any country would succeed in nuking the US no matter how many nukes they got.
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: Thirteen on November 08, 2004, 12:25:59 PM
^^^the nuke thingy is a fairy tale anyway. like if any country would succeed in nuking the US no matter how many nukes they got.

true, the war with korea would be another "get them before they get you" type of war. the only reason the US should be afraid of koreas nuclear weapons, is if there was some evidence of terrorist espionage or negotiations
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: *Jamal* on November 08, 2004, 02:24:43 PM
I have an idea: Our government could just "create" evidence (again), and then we just fuck 'em up.
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Post by: BuddenzNasir on November 08, 2004, 08:31:34 PM
ya if Iran and Korea was a REAL threat, we wouldnt attack them due to retaliation. think bout why we didnt attack Soviet union in the Cold War, cuz they could retaliate. it makes sense, basicly like Jamal said, creat more bs, and use to it gain the support of America and Congress cuz everyone scared and stupid. North Korea and IRAN both on good terms, fighting Iran would be sad, Iraq and USA couldnt beat Iran even with chemical Weapons. North Korea and Iran getting attacked wouldl eave USA more vulnerable, so here comes the draft if anything. Russia as well is great friends with Iran. basicly, i jus see a world war comming on, and Iran would attack Isreal if USa attacks Iran, which would make it just one big party!
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Post by: Thirteen on November 08, 2004, 08:33:03 PM
ya if Iran and Korea was a REAL threat, we wouldnt attack them due to retaliation. think bout why we didnt attack Soviet union in the Cold War, cuz they could retaliate. it makes sense, basicly like Jamal said, creat more bs, and use to it gain the support of America and Congress cuz everyone scared and stupid. North Korea and IRAN both on good terms, fighting Iran would be sad, Iraq and USA couldnt beat Iran even with chemical Weapons. North Korea and Iran getting attacked wouldl eave USA more vulnerable, so here comes the draft if anything. Russia as well is great friends with Iran. basicly, i jus see a world war comming on, and Iran would attack Isreal if USa attacks Iran, which would make it just one big party!

don't post when you're drunk
Title: Re: Is it true in a couple of years we will be at war with...
Post by: BuddenzNasir on November 09, 2004, 06:10:42 PM
explain urself. that comment gets u no where.