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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Rizzle on November 06, 2004, 09:36:34 AM

Title: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 06, 2004, 09:36:34 AM
I just been thinking about the whole gazaa pullout although some check points may go i doubt israel will stop its military opportations considering it will remain in control of its airspace so i'm sure it will still use airstikes and misile attacks on gazaa and as it will maintain control of its boarders and coastlines there will still be restrictions of where palestinians can go.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Rampant on November 06, 2004, 11:24:39 AM
I wish this whole feud could end, and there could be peace between the two countries.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 07, 2004, 12:42:48 PM
There are no two countries, there is one country and a bunch of terrorists......
gaza should be under Israeli control for as long as it continues to produce terroristic atacks...
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 07, 2004, 01:28:09 PM
there will be terrorists for until israel gives up its occupation
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 07, 2004, 09:01:12 PM
Theres Arab land, and theres a bunch of European settlers.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: tommyilromano on November 08, 2004, 05:34:06 AM
Theres Arab land, and theres a bunch of European settlers.

Calling them Europeans is an insult they are a people with no real homeland. Better Palistina than where I live. At least they are someones elses problem. If only all the Jews who lived in America and Europe would go to Israel...
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2004, 06:10:56 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 08, 2004, 12:16:37 PM
Theres Arab land, and theres a bunch of European settlers.


LOL....I guess a piece of basic literature like the holy bible kinda sliped your attention....or may be the People who translated The Torah from hebrew made some serious mistypings....This is ancient Jewish Land, The Land of Israel...How can you ignore that...European settlers my ass, This is our land...exile doesn't turn Jews into Eurpeans the haulacaust is a living proof of this...A bunch of mobile arab tribes can't change that, no metter how much terrorism and manipulation they produce...
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 08, 2004, 12:19:23 PM
Theres Arab land, and theres a bunch of European settlers.

Calling them Europeans is an insult they are a people with no real homeland. Better Palistina than where I live. At least they are someones elses problem. If only all the Jews who lived in America and Europe would go to Israel...


^^^see what Im talking about?, exile doesn't turn Jews into Europeans, I'll let Hitler-Juniour do the talking.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2004, 12:38:00 PM
britiain owned a quarter of the world 50 years ago u don't see us trying to reclaim that. a book written 2000 years ago is no reason to steal land it wasn't even exclusively jewish then.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Lincoln on November 08, 2004, 12:39:44 PM
Funny, I didn't know that you could use religion for that kind of thing. Couldn't it be argued that since Jeruselam is holy to Muslims and Christians that either of them could control it?
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2004, 12:42:35 PM
whats even more discusting about the gazaa pull out when israel has created nearly 1 million refugees in gazaa, they are not simply gonna up and leave they are going to bulldoze all the jewish settlements i think palestinians should be aloud to live in them escpecially after the amount of palestinian homes they have destroyed to make way for walls etc.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: tommyilromano on November 08, 2004, 08:17:27 PM
Theres Arab land, and theres a bunch of European settlers.

Calling them Europeans is an insult they are a people with no real homeland. Better Palistina than where I live. At least they are someones elses problem. If only all the Jews who lived in America and Europe would go to Israel...


^^^see what Im talking about?, exile doesn't turn Jews into Europeans, I'll let Hitler-Juniour do the talking.

See we agree on something. I used to date a Jew so call me whatever you want I understand Jews better than most. I have been to Israel before I know the deal there. A long time ago a used to support Israel but something changed that.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: *Jamal* on November 08, 2004, 08:24:36 PM
I have some questions:

Why aren't reporters allowed in the West Bank/Gaza Strip?
Why have reporters been repeatedly shot at by Israeli soldiers?
Why have reporters been ran over by Israeli tanks?
Why does Israel have these strict laws, making it pretty much impossible for non-Israeli cameramen to record anything that goes on there?
Why did the Israeli government forbid 1 Israeli reporter from showing the scene he recorded of Israeli soldiers going into a Palestinian home, and for no reason killing the mom, who was sitting in the corner crying, holding on to her kids?

The answer to all of the questions: The truth will be known
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: *Jamal* on November 08, 2004, 08:25:46 PM
I have 1 word for some of you to do some research on: JENIN
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: *Jamal* on November 08, 2004, 08:27:59 PM
By the way, before anyone classifies me as an anti-Semite, that couldn't be further from the truth. I have nothing against Israeli people, I have nothing against Jews; as a matter of fact, I probably have more Jewish friends than Muslim ones. The only thing I do disagree with is the actions that the Israeli government is carrying out. There's a large number of Israelis who even disagree with their government's actions, and that includes Orthodox rabbis.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Thirteen on November 08, 2004, 08:29:37 PM
I have some questions:

Why aren't reporters allowed in the West Bank/Gaza Strip?
Why have reporters been repeatedly shot at by Israeli soldiers?
Why have reporters been ran over by Israeli tanks?
Why does Israel have these strict laws, making it pretty much impossible for non-Israeli cameramen to record anything that goes on there?
Why did the Israeli government forbid 1 Israeli reporter from showing the scene he recorded of Israeli soldiers going into a Palestinian home, and for no reason killing the mom, who was sitting in the corner crying, holding on to her kids?

The answer to all of the questions: The truth will be known

well it's easy, your first and fourth questions are answered by the two and three...if i led israel, i'd hate to keep getting in trouble when camera men run in front of bullets and run under tanks

and lastly because that happened on a friday, and friday is t-shirt-and-hat day in the israeli military not "go-into-a-palestinian-home-and-for-no-reason-kill-the-mom-who-was-sitting-in-a-corner-crying-holding-on-to-her-kids day
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: *Jamal* on November 08, 2004, 08:33:43 PM
Tom Hurndall
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Thirteen on November 08, 2004, 08:34:44 PM
Bob Sagget
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: *Jamal* on November 08, 2004, 08:42:58 PM
(http://www.scar.utoronto.ca/~msa/issues/Palestine/MultiMedia/pictures/crimes/israeli_soldiers_stops_cameraman_from_recording_crimes.jpg)


Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 09, 2004, 11:25:57 AM
Religion or not, there is a reason to why the state of Israel was formed on the hystorical Land Of Israel and not somewhere in Africa,
This is Jewish Land....How can you compare Jews reclaiming their Land from which they were deported and exiled, to the british Empire...Some people call Jews "People with no land" or "wonderers", from all the wondering nations that exist, Jews are the ones who needed a formal state the most to prevent extiction , but what you all forget is the fact that the Palestinians aren't even a nation, their national identety exists only on paper, you can still see their tribal contradictive nature , Look at the way the Palestinian authority operates, their national agenda was created only to interfer with the end of the Jewish exile, If Jews never reclaimed their land and the Palestinians were to inherit this Land they would kill each other for many other reasons and they would fuss among themselves for long untill some Arab neighbour state would decide to move in on them to end the chaos....We don't even need to come up with excuses
to what our army is doing, unlike The U.S army in Iraq for  Israel it's a metter of national survival.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Doggystylin on November 09, 2004, 09:20:18 PM
Moses cursed your asses, thats why you'll never have peace there.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 10, 2004, 12:36:47 AM
Religion or not, there is a reason to why the state of Israel was formed on the hystorical Land Of Israel and not somewhere in Africa,
This is Jewish Land....How can you compare Jews reclaiming their Land from which they were deported and exiled, to the british Empire...Some people call Jews "People with no land" or "wonderers", from all the wondering nations that exist, Jews are the ones who needed a formal state the most to prevent extiction , but what you all forget is the fact that the Palestinians aren't even a nation, their national identety exists only on paper, you can still see their tribal contradictive nature , Look at the way the Palestinian authority operates, their national agenda was created only to interfer with the end of the Jewish exile, If Jews never reclaimed their land and the Palestinians were to inherit this Land they would kill each other for many other reasons and they would fuss among themselves for long untill some Arab neighbour state would decide to move in on them to end the chaos....We don't even need to come up with excuses
to what our army is doing, unlike The U.S army in Iraq for  Israel it's a metter of national survival.
so are the palestinians even more so infact and israel does not need the west bank and gazaa for national survival. you admit it palestinian land but ur reason for stealing it is stupid whats theirs is theirs but since israeli independence theres no going back but the fairest option is to go back to origional UN partition.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 11, 2004, 09:48:58 PM
Religion or not, there is a reason to why the state of Israel was formed on the hystorical Land Of Israel and not somewhere in Africa,
This is Jewish Land....How can you compare Jews reclaiming their Land from which they were deported and exiled, to the british Empire...Some people call Jews "People with no land" or "wonderers", from all the wondering nations that exist, Jews are the ones who needed a formal state the most to prevent extiction , but what you all forget is the fact that the Palestinians aren't even a nation, their national identety exists only on paper, you can still see their tribal contradictive nature , Look at the way the Palestinian authority operates, their national agenda was created only to interfer with the end of the Jewish exile, If Jews never reclaimed their land and the Palestinians were to inherit this Land they would kill each other for many other reasons and they would fuss among themselves for long untill some Arab neighbour state would decide to move in on them to end the chaos....We don't even need to come up with excuses
to what our army is doing, unlike The U.S army in Iraq for  Israel it's a metter of national survival.
so are the palestinians even more so infact and israel does not need the west bank and gazaa for national survival. you admit it palestinian land but ur reason for stealing it is stupid whats theirs is theirs but since israeli independence theres no going back but the fairest option is to go back to origional UN partition.

First of all, all the land the Palestinians are considered to be entitled to is a result of their unstoping manipulative-terroristic stunts, They are most deffenatly the BIG winners in this situation, no other country in the world would ever alow itself to obay to the will of terrorists like Israel(see USA), this should only serve as a proof to how strongly the Israeli side seeks for peace, But know one thing, Their amount of Land is never a metter of survival, they could create a "national home" using only the Gaza strip alone if it was what they really wanted, Israel would never move on on a friendly neighbour state. Since the Palestinian side is hostile there is only a small number of ways to avoid confrontation, either to part from them in someway, or to fully move on them and fully destroy all the terroristic infrastructure by the cost of many lives...hmmm....look at the option your radical-right wing Sharon is picking right now....
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Fathom on November 12, 2004, 06:57:11 PM
I just been thinking about the whole gazaa pullout although some check points may go i doubt israel will stop its military opportations considering it will remain in control of its airspace so i'm sure it will still use airstikes and misile attacks on gazaa and as it will maintain control of its boarders and coastlines there will still be restrictions of where palestinians can go.
as there should be until they learn to except defeat.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 14, 2004, 08:45:27 PM
Religion or not, there is a reason to why the state of Israel was formed on the hystorical Land Of Israel and not somewhere in Africa,
This is Jewish Land....How can you compare Jews reclaiming their Land from which they were deported and exiled, to the british Empire...Some people call Jews "People with no land" or "wonderers", from all the wondering nations that exist, Jews are the ones who needed a formal state the most to prevent extiction , but what you all forget is the fact that the Palestinians aren't even a nation, their national identety exists only on paper, you can still see their tribal contradictive nature , Look at the way the Palestinian authority operates, their national agenda was created only to interfer with the end of the Jewish exile, If Jews never reclaimed their land and the Palestinians were to inherit this Land they would kill each other for many other reasons and they would fuss among themselves for long untill some Arab neighbour state would decide to move in on them to end the chaos....We don't even need to come up with excuses
to what our army is doing, unlike The U.S army in Iraq for  Israel it's a metter of national survival.
so are the palestinians even more so infact and israel does not need the west bank and gazaa for national survival. you admit it palestinian land but ur reason for stealing it is stupid whats theirs is theirs but since israeli independence theres no going back but the fairest option is to go back to origional UN partition.

First of all, all the land the Palestinians are considered to be entitled to is a result of their unstoping manipulative-terroristic stunts, They are most deffenatly the BIG winners in this situation, no other country in the world would ever alow itself to obay to the will of terrorists like Israel(see USA), this should only serve as a proof to how strongly the Israeli side seeks for peace, But know one thing, Their amount of Land is never a metter of survival, they could create a "national home" using only the Gaza strip alone if it was what they really wanted, Israel would never move on on a friendly neighbour state. Since the Palestinian side is hostile there is only a small number of ways to avoid confrontation, either to part from them in someway, or to fully move on them and fully destroy all the terroristic infrastructure by the cost of many lives...hmmm....look at the option your radical-right wing Sharon is picking right now....

very slow guys, all together now...

Y-O-U T-O-O-K T-H-E-I-R L-A-N-D
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 15, 2004, 10:55:18 AM
Religion or not, there is a reason to why the state of Israel was formed on the hystorical Land Of Israel and not somewhere in Africa,
This is Jewish Land....How can you compare Jews reclaiming their Land from which they were deported and exiled, to the british Empire...Some people call Jews "People with no land" or "wonderers", from all the wondering nations that exist, Jews are the ones who needed a formal state the most to prevent extiction , but what you all forget is the fact that the Palestinians aren't even a nation, their national identety exists only on paper, you can still see their tribal contradictive nature , Look at the way the Palestinian authority operates, their national agenda was created only to interfer with the end of the Jewish exile, If Jews never reclaimed their land and the Palestinians were to inherit this Land they would kill each other for many other reasons and they would fuss among themselves for long untill some Arab neighbour state would decide to move in on them to end the chaos....We don't even need to come up with excuses
to what our army is doing, unlike The U.S army in Iraq for  Israel it's a metter of national survival.
so are the palestinians even more so infact and israel does not need the west bank and gazaa for national survival. you admit it palestinian land but ur reason for stealing it is stupid whats theirs is theirs but since israeli independence theres no going back but the fairest option is to go back to origional UN partition.

First of all, all the land the Palestinians are considered to be entitled to is a result of their unstoping manipulative-terroristic stunts, They are most deffenatly the BIG winners in this situation, no other country in the world would ever alow itself to obay to the will of terrorists like Israel(see USA), this should only serve as a proof to how strongly the Israeli side seeks for peace, But know one thing, Their amount of Land is never a metter of survival, they could create a "national home" using only the Gaza strip alone if it was what they really wanted, Israel would never move on on a friendly neighbour state. Since the Palestinian side is hostile there is only a small number of ways to avoid confrontation, either to part from them in someway, or to fully move on them and fully destroy all the terroristic infrastructure by the cost of many lives...hmmm....look at the option your radical-right wing Sharon is picking right now....

very slow guys, all together now...

Y-O-U T-O-O-K T-H-E-I-R L-A-N-D

I bet this is your strongest arguement.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: Lincoln on November 15, 2004, 10:58:27 AM
^^ That's all it needs. The simplest answer is usually the most correct.
Title: Re: the gazaa pull out
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 15, 2004, 11:15:48 AM
^^ That's all it needs. The simplest answer is usually the most correct.

Well, now I get it, that's how all of you beholders base your stand points, you take your wishes for reallity....